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    Published on Aug 4, 2012 by women4truth


    ~DISCLAIMER: Gary Yourofsky did NOT ask that question ... I did ~credit video: http://youtube.com/TheAnimalHolocaust

    Gary Yourofsky's entire inspirational speech on animal rights and veganism held at Georgia Tech in summer of 2010. Listen to this amazing speaker who will blow away the myths, fill your mind with interesting facts, and help you make ethical choices for a healthy heart and soul. His charismatic and straightforward style is one of a kind - a must-see for anyone who cares about nonhuman animals or wishes to make the world a better place.

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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    Re: the thread title, I have often pondered the same thing (if we would be judged/evaulated based on how we treat the animals of this planet)...and then wondered, with dread, "As Above, So Below?"

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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    • ~imagine he is an Alien giving a lecture to other Aliens about how they treat Humans ... in the same context & level of abuse what we do to animals ... what would you think about that "Alien" lecturing other "Aliens" would you be at least happy that 1 Alien is speaking on your behalf? What if Earth is a Giant Breeding Zoo or Giant Laboratory ... would that be " far fetched"? Scary thoughts, I certainly hope it is NOT true and that there is a bigger overlooked picture!



    • ~you do not know what they put in animals (Google Transgenics) & animals eating GMO food
      ... but this video is NOT about "genocide by NWO" but our behavior & hypocritical "ethics" we suppose to have !!!



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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    like nature around us we may just be a tasty snack !!

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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    ~what if eating meat equals LOWERING your vibrations to a level where you can not be inspired by higher consciousness, higher intelligence, intuitions that can save you, blocking your true potential, maybe even preventing you to ascend to an higher plane of existence, what if PART of our emotions are polluted because of eating meat, what if real benevolent aliens do not want to be close to meat eaters but lower aliens do (lol) that would be the ULTIMATE Karma! ... As you sow so shall you Reap!
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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    ~what if eating meat equals LOWERING your vibrations to a level where you can not be inspired by higher consciousness, higher intelligence, intuitions that can save you, blocking your true potential, maybe even preventing you to ascend to an higher plane of existence, what if PART of our emotions are polluted because of eating meat, what if real benevolent aliens do not want to be close to meat eaters but lower aliens do (lol) that would be the ULTIMATE Karma! ... As you sow so shall you Reap!
    Some people think that eating only vegetables is the way to a higher understanding and spiritual mastery. It takes much more than that I feel. If I eat a bacon sandwich and help an old lady across the road am I not a better person than someone who eats a veggie salad and kills someody an hour later. I don't know for sure, but I would guess that there have been many mass murderers who were vegans. Maybe Hitler or George Bush sen, George W Bush and the likes of Tony Blair were vegitarians? Has there ever been any kind of data collected anywhere? It would be intersesting indeed. If my memory serves me I think Hitler was tee total and vegitarian.


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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    That is one big what if??

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

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    Published on Aug 4, 2012 by women4truth


    ~DISCLAIMER: Gary Yourofsky did NOT ask that question ... I did ~credit video: http://youtube.com/TheAnimalHolocaust

    Gary Yourofsky's entire inspirational speech on animal rights and veganism held at Georgia Tech in summer of 2010. Listen to this amazing speaker who will blow away the myths, fill your mind with interesting facts, and help you make ethical choices for a healthy heart and soul. His charismatic and straightforward style is one of a kind - a must-see for anyone who cares about nonhuman animals or wishes to make the world a better place.

    The Q&A session can be seen here:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=WIkC4OJEx3c

    Another great lecture by James Wildman:
    http://bit.ly/101arff

    PLEASE SHARE this brilliant speech in any way you can. Read the amount of positive feedback this speech creates:
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    This is powerful! IMO....The messenger nails it shut. People speak of the flouride in our water, the vaccines we take, the GMO foods we eat, the chemtrails sprayed in our skys, but fail to realize how the meat, fish and chicken we consume from todays massive factory farming may be far worse than the above mentioned toxins. When animals live in a stressful environment, so does their meat. And were ingesting their stress. Indeed The Pharmaceutical companies prosper from meat lovers. And most importantly.......I think Its time to reconsider, that animals are directly connected to us.

    Great video here, have a gander. Warning! Disturbing content. User discretion is advised!

    Http://Www.meatvideo.com

    Great find OP. Wanishi : )

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    ~what if eating meat equals LOWERING your vibrations to a level where you can not be inspired by higher consciousness, higher intelligence, intuitions that can save you, blocking your true potential, maybe even preventing you to ascend to an higher plane of existence, what if PART of our emotions are polluted because of eating meat, what if real benevolent aliens do not want to be close to meat eaters but lower aliens do (lol) that would be the ULTIMATE Karma! ... As you sow so shall you Reap!
    I remember Alex Collier stating something from The Andromedans. Terrans have a tremendous Auric Stench. Must be from the dead animal flesh we Terrans ingest.
    "Although I Live On This World, I Choose Not To Live In It"
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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    My personal experience with this is that being vegan is a necessary step.

    Anything else is an internal lie you tell yourself. (anything to put off actually doing the right thing, today -now.......... self block, after self lie, after self block, after self lie ......ad nauseam)

    It's that thing I told myself when i was 13, looking at history.

    If not now, then when?

    If not you, then who?
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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    Vegans often assume that meat eaters are "animal dominators", with that "I own you" kind of attitude, that they are "cruel" and "couldn't possibly be enlightened".

    Yes, most of us are aware of how animals go through an insane stress while being slaughtered. Yes, I too feel there's no such thing as "humane or inhumane" slaughtering. It's just slaughtering.

    And yet, whenever I see an animal kill another animal for their meat - I go,
    "Aite. I guess."


    I won't claim to have the moral high ground to think carnivores such as sharks, dolphins, lions, whales and tigers are necessarily "less enlightened" than herbivores or weeds that suffocate the growth of plants.

    Because in THAT sense - I find we're all INDEED "brothers and sisters".
    I understand why they do so. I understand why a leopard chases a deer, instead of digging its teeth into plant sap.

    It's funny how CERTAIN vegans preach about being connected with our animal brothers and sisters - but yet from the way they talk about it all, it's clear that they're coming more from a MESSIAH point of view, rather than a genuine "connection", ain't it?

    But hey, that's just my un-enlightened ego talkin, right?
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    Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

    ALBERT EINSTEIN, quoted in Sinfully Vegan

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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    ~what if eating meat equals LOWERING your vibrations to a level where you can not be inspired by higher consciousness, higher intelligence, intuitions that can save you, blocking your true potential, maybe even preventing you to ascend to an higher plane of existence, what if PART of our emotions are polluted because of eating meat, what if real benevolent aliens do not want to be close to meat eaters but lower aliens do (lol) that would be the ULTIMATE Karma! ... As you sow so shall you Reap!
    I don't buy it because when I look at the times I have been most in tune in my life, I was eating meat. I've had periods of amazing creativity and spiritual insight and some very profound visionary and metaphysical experiences, all while eating meat. What you are saying I feel is just some dogma. What you say about meat you could say that about anything, like swearing, masturbation, alcohol, pot....fill in the blank. There are incredible psychics and spiritual practitioners of all kinds that eat meat. Some people, because of how their body is, has to eat meat or they don't feel well. Don't be surprised if you ever meet any ETs to find that some really amazing ones eat at least some meat.

    When you look at some of the most well known spiritual masters in the history of the Earth, like Jesus and Buddha....from what we know of them, they ate meat. What if the souls of livestock incarnated on Earth with the intention of serving as food for us to help in our evolution? If so, wouldn't it suffice to just have gratitude? What if you are needlessly demonizing meat eaters to fuel your personal idealistic superiority complex? Anyway, I think there are much better arguments for not eating meat, especially environmental ones.

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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    ~what if eating meat equals LOWERING your vibrations to a level where you can not be inspired by higher consciousness, higher intelligence, intuitions that can save you, blocking your true potential, maybe even preventing you to ascend to an higher plane of existence, what if PART of our emotions are polluted because of eating meat, what if real benevolent aliens do not want to be close to meat eaters but lower aliens do (lol) that would be the ULTIMATE Karma! ... As you sow so shall you Reap!
    I remember Alex Collier stating something from The Andromedans. Terrans have a tremendous Auric Stench. Must be from the dead animal flesh we Terrans ingest.
    And to add further, Alex stated that The A's....Andromedan's are fruitetarians. They are a highly evolved species.
    So I guess highly evolved species don't consume one another. They eat the fruit ,without destroying the (tree) its life source...if you will!
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    It's funny. I've always judged people on how they treat animals and children. So, I wouldn't blame aliens for doing the same....

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    Quote I don't buy it because when I look at the times I have been most in tune in my life, I was eating meat. I've had periods of amazing creativity and spiritual insight and some very profound visionary and metaphysical experiences, all while eating meat. What you are saying I feel is just some dogma. What you say about meat you could say that about anything, like swearing, masturbation, alcohol, pot....fill in the blank. There are incredible psychics and spiritual practitioners of all kinds that eat meat. Some people, because of how their body is, has to eat meat or they don't feel well. Don't be surprised if you ever meet any ETs to find that some really amazing ones eat at least some meat.
    Did you know that meat makes our bodies STINK? Not even perfume and showers can't get rid of the stench of blood from us.... I've been told by aliens themselves....

    But the point about eating meat is that it lowers our vibrations....

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    On this planet, humans and animals suffer similar faiths in similar ratios. Some humans on this planet have everything they could possibly desire, pretty much the same as some precious pets whose owners treat them a million times better than I and many humans have ever been treated.

    Then, on this planet, we have millions of humans who are literally starving, others are tortured, others are abducted and forced into slavery, etc., which is equal to the animals grown on commercial farms whose treatment is nothing short of satanic. Organically grown cattle raised on large meadows where they are allowed to feed, roam and play as they wish, enjoy a good life even if they end up providing milk, meat and hide in the end. Since everthing must die in the end, the occasional indulgence in organically grown meat is not such a horrible thing if your body really craves it. Vegetarianism should come naturally, organically, and not forced upon the body until the body is ready to accept it and thrive on it. Commercially grown meat, on the other hand, should be avoided like the war.

    Would evil ETs stop messing with us if we were to stop eating meat? I doubt it!

    Do benevolent ETs judge us for eating meat? Maybe - to a degree. But if they are that benevolent then they would forgive us and try to help us raise our vibrations so that cruelty towards animals and towards one another would stop. If you are benevolent, then you realize that there's been much misguidance and manipulation at work and you forgive. You don't judge. Something went wrong along the way of our evolution. Something must have gone terribly wrong when we started to eat meat. Maybe it was a result of the ice age when vegetation disappeared. I don't know!

    If you're a highly evolved being you don't start punching someone because you see them punching someone else. You teach them. You don't punish them.

    If your intentions are evil, then you take advantage of an evil situation and make it work for your own selfish purposes. That's what I feel evil ETs are doing with us while benevolent ETs don't seem to be intervening much in any way.
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    To be perfectly honest, I really couldn't care less what aliens think. They live on their planet and we live on the earth. I didn't ask them to come here nor do I give a tinker's damn what their opinion is. We collectively have the smarts to help ourselves and it's just a matter of applying the knowledge collectively.

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    Default Re: What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

    ~until Sebastion you become a slave to lower-vibrational Aliens you attract (maybe abducted for all kinds of experiments + getting tracer implants + you are consumed NOT because of your "flesh" but rather your lower vibrations becomes THEIR FOOD (energy vampires?) ... and HOW do you gonna defend yourself against that if you already DEPLETED yourself by cutting of from your original potential you suppose to use/have in the first place?

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    To be perfectly honest, I really couldn't care less what aliens think. They live on their planet and we live on the earth. I didn't ask them to come here nor do I give a tinker's damn what their opinion is. We collectively have the smarts to help ourselves and it's just a matter of applying the knowledge collectively.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    To answer your question, I have never been run over by an 18 wheel truck because I don't play in the street.....nor do I play around with lower vibration entities.......



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    ~until Sebastion you become a slave to lower-vibrational Aliens you attract (maybe abducted for all kinds of experiments + getting tracer implants + you are consumed NOT because of your "flesh" but rather your lower vibrations becomes THEIR FOOD (energy vampires?) ... and HOW do you gonna defend yourself against that if you already DEPLETED yourself by cutting of from your original potential you suppose to use/have in the first place?

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