What if Humans are analyzed by Aliens in How we Treat Animals? Equals same Fate?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
~what if eating meat equals LOWERING your vibrations to a level where you can not be inspired by higher consciousness, higher intelligence, intuitions that can save you, blocking your true potential, maybe even preventing you to ascend to an higher plane of existence, what if PART of our emotions are polluted because of eating meat, what if real benevolent aliens do not want to be close to meat eaters but lower aliens do (lol) that would be the ULTIMATE Karma! ... As you sow so shall you Reap!

all I need to tell everyone is I'm a meat eater...

doesn't affect capabilities and ETs aren't worried about us because of what we eat...

just how we shoot anything we want to look closer at...


that freaks em out...

[ExomatrixTV]

Dear, Rocky_Shorz

it DOES, but you are not aware of it because you do not accessing subtle higher vibrations, only lower ones and thus you perceive a fraction of what you suppose to sense, thus you may well attract aliens, et's that are "comfortable" you eating meat, it can still be "amazing" & "spiritual" but you may have NO clue what you are missing as do not the lower aliens (they all can be "nice" but so was Hitler to his dog) so feeling the "nice vibes" of aliens is no guarantee that you dealing with your true purpose !

[Carmody]

Posted by The Arthen (here)
Vegans often assume that meat eaters are "animal dominators", with that "I own you" kind of attitude, that they are "cruel" and "couldn't possibly be enlightened".

Yes, most of us are aware of how animals go through an insane stress while being slaughtered. Yes, I too feel there's no such thing as "humane or inhumane" slaughtering. It's just slaughtering.

And yet, whenever I see an animal kill another animal for their meat - I go,
"Aite. I guess."

I won't claim to have the moral high ground to think carnivores such as sharks, dolphins, lions, whales and tigers are necessarily "less enlightened" than herbivores or weeds that suffocate the growth of plants.

Because in THAT sense - I find we're all INDEED "brothers and sisters".
I understand why they do so. I understand why a leopard chases a deer, instead of digging its teeth into plant sap.

It's funny how CERTAIN vegans preach about being connected with our animal brothers and sisters - but yet from the way they talk about it all, it's clear that they're coming more from a MESSIAH point of view, rather than a genuine "connection", ain't it?

But hey, that's just my un-enlightened ego talkin, right?

But hey, that's just my un-enlightened ego talkin, right?

Yes.

Exactly that.

[WhiteFeather]

A Must Watch on A Sunday Afternoon! Get Your Buttered Popcorn and Compassion Ready. A good Bookmarking...if you will. "It is said that if we had to kill our own meat we'd all be vegetarians".
Viewer Discretion Is Advised if you Are A Carnivore. Change We Must! And A Time to End Animal Slaughtering. Simply Because,,,,, We Are One With Everything.

Much Thanks to our Avalon Member Tane Muhata. Wanishi Bro.

EARTHLINGS is the single most powerful and informative documentary about society's tragic and unforgivable use of nonhuman animals, narrated by Joaquin Phoenix with soundtrack by Moby. Directed by Shaun Monson, this multi-award winning film by Nation Earth is a must-see for anyone who cares about nonhuman animals or wishes to make the world a better place.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ce4DJh-L7Ys

[Flash]

If Aliiens analyse us for anything, the analysis will be short....

Our behaviors in general border the state of pure animalistic components and very few otherwise in my opinion.

[Fred Steeves]

Isn't it annoying...When people try to convince you that Jesus saves, or that you should quit smoking, or quit drinking, or quit eating meat, or quit owning a gun, or quit driving your SUV, or quit thinking you have any spiritual maturity, or quit thinking you know anything, or quit...

Cheers,
Fred

[bluestflame]

dolphins eat meat and are credited with being pretty evolved , so do whales

would have thought it was what's in your heart , not what's in your belly

[CD7]

What if THEY are analyzed by THEM in how they treat humans?

[Spiral]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
"It is said that if we had to kill our own meat we'd all be vegetarians". Change We Must! And A Time to End Animal Slaughtering. Simply Because,,,,, We Are One With Everything.

All the men I know hunt wild boar, which they eat, and most hunters hunt to be closer to nature.

Its a totally different experience to prepare & eat something you have shot yourself in the wild, or a trout you have wrestled from a moutain river, its an intimate thing, yes there is blood & guts, but there is respect, its as far removed from intensively reared prepackaged supermarket industrial hormone riddled "meat" as you can get.

How many animals would be left if they weren't reared for food ?, farmers don't keep livestock as pets.





I have to say someting about this alien vegitarian abduction nonsense, the vast majority of abductees are born into a programme, it doesn't matter one jot what they eat or don't eat, whether they smoke, drink, are gay/straight communists or republican.

These are long running multi generational programmes, some of it in conjunction with elements of the NSA, being a vegan/ vegitarian is no more protection than wearing a cross around your neck, these are not some vague astral entities but very real physical beings with very real physical craft

What they are doing and why we can only guess at, as to whether they follow some code of ethics or morals is also very hard to pin down, they certainly have NO concept of cruelty as wrong, thats one thing thats a certainty.

[NancyV]

The only "lower" vibration I'm seeing here is those who are exhibiting self righteousness and superiority. Having been a total vegetarian for 7 years who happily wallowed in self righteousness and superiority myself, and then going back to meat eating, I know for a fact that it made NO difference whatsoever in my ability to attain the level of merging with Source. NO beings in any dimensions out of the body and in other dimensions give a flying f**k about humans eating meat. When you leave your body the "stink" of meat does not accompany you. The biggest stink that accompanies one is the vibration of self righteousness and know-it-all-ism. Hopefully one will immediately learn to laugh at their human folly as I did.

I agree with Sebastion in that I could care less what any ET thinks about humans. ET's are absolutely not more evolved than humans. We have the ability to leave our bodies, travel through all dimensions and merge with the Source. All beings with souls in the Creation are EQUAL, whether they eat meat or are a Saint. Diet means NOTHING unless you believe it does. A "pure" body does not equal a "pure" soul. Physical food has nothing to do with your soul nor does it affect it in any way.

Heck, I was so silly I even bought into being CELIBATE for a number of years...as if having sex will keep you from leaving your body. What a frigging joke. But I bought into the teachings of the guru and did the whole trip...even to the point of being a total fruitarian. Guess what? The gurus are wrong! You don't have to be celibate and a vegetarian and say a certain mantra and suck the guru's dick in order to reach enlightenment! Yes, many gurus have sex with the young women followers. Of course it's only because they are being honored and blessed! LOL...fortunately or unfortunately I was not accorded that honor, but I knew several women who were so blessed.

Well, I got to do the self righteous vegetarian trip and anyone else is welcome to go through that stage too. I'm just thankful that I am no longer the SAME self righteous A-hole I was back then. Now I'm a DIFFERENT kind of self righteous A-hole. And this self righteous A-hole has no problem with beings on any level of any dimension up to and including the Source. Because you and I ARE Source. Anything we do is Source doing it. Anything we eat is Source eating it. Beyond that, anything we do and anything we eat is only a part of this illusion.

[donk]

Very few people think about the conscious decisions they make, to the point they are barely "conscious" decisions.

If you are given the information that what you are eating is toxic, not just with the chemical additives and poisons from the processing, but in the way the food source (animal) and it's habitat is treated, only then can you get into the morality of it.

Most people think meat comes from grocery store, and think no further. Unless they are consciously denying information that they are given, then I don't think you can judge the karmic impact. But if you are given information that resonates to you as truth, that eating the flesh of other beings--when it is not out of necessity/survival, as is the case with most of us, rationalizing an answer to "meat is poison for your soul" is the same (to me) as throwing the accusation out there.

I appreciate the information that people feel important share "They were told (or believe) that eating meat is harmful to you, here's why...." , and not sure whether I agree (food for thought!)...but throwing out hypothetical situations or your favorite "more evolved" animal example or whatever seems a defensive justification for something maybe you're not completely comfortable with?

Most animals don't have the capacity that we do to BLAME and DENY, that may be our biggest difference, and perhaps we should be judged accordingly, if some other being felt the need to do so.

I haven't gotten to watch the video yet, but my first thought (and forgive me if this was already mentioned, i intend to read thread more carefully later) was...what if we were analyzed by how we treat our own species? That's bad enough, forget our treatment of what most of us think as "below" us.

I just hope that anyone "analyzing" us has more sense than us, and recognizes that while most are just as easily "domesticated" (aka ENSLAVED) as animals, not all of us refuse to take responsibility for ourselves (and only our own self).

If they are looking at us a whole, I couldn't argue if they came to the conclusion that must be "dealt with".

[Peace of Mind]

IMO, if aliens were observing us they would much rather do it with a 10,000 foot pole. If they have the intelligence to travel here…I’m sure they can see what we’re doing /not doing and they should have enough sense to keep a safe distance.

When watching the progress and tendencies of humans…I can’t imagine them overlooking our blatant denial and how we are unconsciously the greatest contributors to our very own problems. They’re probably looking at us in shame, bewilderment, wondering how and why we choose to exist this way. If aliens do exist, I can’t blame them for their shyness and unwillingness to make their presence known. What reason would they have in doing so? How do they benefit by risking themselves to be around the unpredictable, misguided human? Whom just so happens to develop a high tolerance for violence and destruction of everything they come to know.

Aliens just don’t seem like a good thing/idea/event after you factor in everything. I can only see benevolent E.T.’s assisting species that clearly displays examples of helping themselves.

As an Example: I walked by plenty of ant hills in my life but I only took the time to stop and show great appreciation (and some assistance) when I see them working together for a common cause, it’s beauty in motion. When I don’t see this, I see chaos, it’s confusing to me, uninteresting because they are all over the place and it’s hard to get a handle on what they want.…and as the observer I start to lose that curiosity and soon find myself going on by my business. I may think/pretend to know what they want but if there is no unison my assessment may be incorrect, therefore potentially creating another problem for them.

Besides, I don’t want the responsibility for saving/helping them... especially when I have more pressing issues to deal with. It may be an easy task for me at first, but later they (ants) may become dependent of me simply because of that menial task I so effortlessly took care of for them.... now making me the babysitter, the pacifier.

So to eliminate any future hang-ups…I’ll no longer do for others what they can do for themselves. I may offer some insight, maybe even remove an obstacle in their path. But the lessons,feelings of achievement is for them to experience so they can grow from it.

We (anyone) can have whatever we want…we just have to really want it. Action has always spoken louder than words!! And this is precisely what the aliens may be looking for…

Peace

[realitycorrodes]

Cognitive Dissonance

Is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously.

E.g. Animal rights activists, eating meat or wearing fur.

Dissonance can also lead to

seeking information from biased sources
denial of contradictory evidence
and many other ego defense mechanisms

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What puts me in awe is some people on this thread seem to have such cognitive dissonance!

I am left not knowing what to do?

One cannot communicate with a mind actively working to keep itself closed - my personal feeling is there is some kind of rancid fear rotting such peoples brains away?

And I dislike giving good people bad news!

Rather than love,
than money,
than fame,
give me truth!
Henry David Thoreau

[Student_Energy_Healer]

Wow! There is a lot of misanthropic talk in this forum!

I eat meat, and although I'm not a big fan on HOW my meat is killed, I still love my meat.

It doesn't make a difference what you eat or even what you do in order to gain favor in the sight of some "god" or "alien" whether consciously or unconsciously (like what we seem to be doing here). What ultimately matters is more fully understanding who we truly are.

Tigers kill and eat meat and in the most "inhuman" ways might I add. So do wolves and bears, etc.

There are genuine psychics, energy healers and mediums in the world who smoke 60 packs a day, eat all manner of meat and are absolute "b%*!@%*s to their friends, family and clients, but their abilites don't change if they eat "less meat" or "smoked less" or had the attitude of Mother Teresa.

Blessings to all,

Maxine

[Sirius White]

This idea crossed my mind the moment my multi-dimensional thinking came up.

I realized karma was fractal, and holographic. Meaning, that our energy is tied all across the way, in an as above so below kind of way. So long as we exploited those below us, and ourselves- there would be energies above, attracted to the energy we have projected.

If we were, to instead radiate a respect for animals and ourselves, as well as one another we would have a greater connection to inner knowledge and more than likely, a little harder to deceive. That's why people like you and me on this forum question everything.

The Aliens who look at us that way also know the way we treat our planet, ourselves, and animals- so they have little sympathy. In act, they kind of justify themselves. It's no accident beings come into our realm that may look at us the way we look at a lab rat. It is easy for them to take us out of our habitat (with agreement of our King Mice), do what they need to do, and put us back.

But human beings are too valuable to just allow them to fall into their same fate. Just as there are fighters for animals here, there are fighters out there who know in a way, we are innocent and ignorant- and are trying to help us.

Remember......gotta take into account everything. Human DNA is also very interesting and diverse, and the biological wealth on this planet. So simply eliminating us is foolish. They instead choose to exploit, and in some cases direct the direction in which we evolve.

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by NancyV (here)
The only "lower" vibration I'm seeing here is those who are exhibiting self righteousness and superiority. Having been a total vegetarian for 7 years who happily wallowed in self righteousness and superiority myself, and then going back to meat eating, I know for a fact that it made NO difference whatsoever in my ability to attain the level of merging with Source. NO beings in any dimensions out of the body and in other dimensions give a flying f**k about humans eating meat. When you leave your body the "stink" of meat does not accompany you. The biggest stink that accompanies one is the vibration of self righteousness and know-it-all-ism. Hopefully one will immediately learn to laugh at their human folly as I did.

I agree with Sebastion in that I could care less what any ET thinks about humans. ET's are absolutely not more evolved than humans. We have the ability to leave our bodies, travel through all dimensions and merge with the Source. All beings with souls in the Creation are EQUAL, whether they eat meat or are a Saint. Diet means NOTHING unless you believe it does. A "pure" body does not equal a "pure" soul. Physical food has nothing to do with your soul nor does it affect it in any way.

Heck, I was so silly I even bought into being CELIBATE for a number of years...as if having sex will keep you from leaving your body. What a frigging joke. But I bought into the teachings of the guru and did the whole trip...even to the point of being a total fruitarian. Guess what? The gurus are wrong! You don't have to be celibate and a vegetarian and say a certain mantra and suck the guru's dick in order to reach enlightenment! Yes, many gurus have sex with the young women followers. Of course it's only because they are being honored and blessed! LOL...fortunately or unfortunately I was not accorded that honor, but I knew several women who were so blessed.

Well, I got to do the self righteous vegetarian trip and anyone else is welcome to go through that stage too. I'm just thankful that I am no longer the SAME self righteous A-hole I was back then. Now I'm a DIFFERENT kind of self righteous A-hole. And this self righteous A-hole has no problem with beings on any level of any dimension up to and including the Source. Because you and I ARE Source. Anything we do is Source doing it. Anything we eat is Source eating it. Beyond that, anything we do and anything we eat is only a part of this illusion.

perfect truth! nothing more needs to be said.

[bluestflame]

bless it and give thanks , honor it , give it a good life

the way animals are misused needs to change

quality of life , quality of vibration

[Agape]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
A Must Watch on A Sunday Afternoon! Get Your Buttered Popcorn and Compassion Ready. A good Bookmarking...if you will. "It is said that if we had to kill our own meat we'd all be vegetarians".
Viewer Discretion Is Advised if you Are A Carnivore. Change We Must! And A Time to End Animal Slaughtering. Simply Because,,,,, We Are One With Everything.

Much Thanks to our Avalon Member Tane Muhata. Wanishi Bro.

EARTHLINGS is the single most powerful and informative documentary about society's tragic and unforgivable use of nonhuman animals, narrated by Joaquin Phoenix with soundtrack by Moby. Directed by Shaun Monson, this multi-award winning film by Nation Earth is a must-see for anyone who cares about nonhuman animals or wishes to make the world a better place.

It's so sad . I can't bear watching this even . It seems that we've got so little time to change something here for better ..

[meeradas]

Posted by bluestflame (here)
dolphins eat meat and are credited with being pretty evolved , so do whales

Long as they don't develop greed for profit and start 'trading' ...

Posted by Agape (here)
I can't bear watching this even

ditto

[realitycorrodes]

Illustrating how humans are behaving cruelly to innocent beings (animals) is not misanthropic talk. It is talk designed to enlighten such humans so they can behave more compassionately and as such is done as love to see such humans improve in their behavior.

This is ironically a perfect example of dissonance.

Avoiding paying for the slaughter of another being (animals) is not about gaining favor with some human made "god" or "alien".

Talk about missing the point??? Cognitive Dissonance again

Its about letting another being live who does not need to be slaughtered - this is known as "compassion".

Why would one wish to be compassionate?
One wishes to be compassionate, so that when other(s) (beings or nature herself) who are in a position to be compassionate towards us, may be inspired by our compassion and continue through with such compassion towards us.

When one is compassionate towards others...it is actually about being compassionate towards oneself - there is a slightly bigger picture at play here - if only one could expand their awareness to see how it is all connected. Killing others that do not need to be killed in order for one to enjoy the taste of blood in one's mouth is like killing oneself. This somehow has to be experienced for oneself....I guess?? One can only point the way?

Being compassionate is a way of being harmonic! And in certain ways sustainable!
Of course one can leave their body without being compassionate and pretend they have merged with "The Source" - whatever that means - as lets be honest...no-one can prove or disprove such delusional statements - such egotism leads to delusions of grandeur and the making of statements that wrongly conclude (at least at the physical level - which is the level we deal with every day) that being compassionate in the physical does not matter. It matters to us!!! Or some of us it seems?

Personally I would rather be a compassionate human first and foremost than become a psychic or an energy worker if it was at the expense of losing my compassion towards other living beings (animals).

Wanting such attributes above being compassionate is about wanting "power" or "fame" both of which are based in fear. Fear being the lowest vibration of all IMHO>

What ultimately matters is more fully understanding who we truly are.

One is very far away from understanding themselves when they have no compassion for other living beings (animals).

Tigers kill and eat meat and in the most "inhuman" ways might I add. So do wolves and bears, etc.

This is were the cognitive dissonance seeks biased or illogical information to support the "UN-compassionate" behavior.

Just because someone else is behaving badly who does not have the faculties to reason/or create a more compassionate way of living does not mean that humans must imitate their behavior like "mindless sheep"?

There are genuine psychics, energy healers and mediums in the world who smoke 60 packs a day, eat all manner of meat and are absolute "b%*!@%*s to their friends, family and clients, but their abilites don't change if they eat "less meat" or "smoked less" or had the attitude of Mother Teresa.

The topic is not about being

psychic or
an energy healer

one can be these things with or without slaughtering or paying to have other beings slaughtered

pretending it is, is a distraction technique due to cognitive dissonance in order to blur the original point of the topic, as it is obvious that the original point is correct, then one has to include other (irrelevant)points to the original point in the hope that such irrelevant points may give the altered subject matter the illusion of being incorrect - this is all done to avoid the glaring truth. To know oneself would be to know about such behavior.

There are many behaviors that make one compassionate.

Mother Teresa I am told was a compassionate lady, so perhaps was Gandhi.

How much more compassionate would she have been if she did not slaughter other beings (animals) or pay others to slaughter animals - especially when it is obvious that humans do not need to slaughter animals to live!!!

But it is not about Mother Teresa or Gandhi - it is about us!!! Time to take responsibility - we are all waiting and rooting for us!

Let us drop the cognitive dissonance and denial and expand our compassion to other beings who perhaps we did not realize were sentient beings very similar to ourselves.

Lets face it - one would not want to be slaughtered in order that someone else could become psychic by eating one, (it is kind of like having double standards?)

or be slaughtered in order that someone else could become an energy healer

or be butchered in order that someone else could somehow curry favor with a man made political agenda called "God".

And finally, do we really think we would be personally happy with being butchered just because someone told us it was going to be done in a "halal" way (ritually significant manner to a bunch of "brainwashed" religious fanatics)???? Like that really makes a difference. Come on??

One day when we awaken to our-self we also will see how ludicrous our denial and cognitive dissonance really was.

P.S. It really does not matter if someone who is arguing for what is the truth is succumbing to "righteous indignation" that is their problem - it does not mean the truth that they are presenting is in anyway incorrect. That is called character assassination, a technique commonly used by our governments to control our minds.

As much as I intuitively suspect I am not a fan of Winston Churchill I tend to agree with his statement below:

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill