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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    maybe i have the video confused w/another one -- can't watch it again till i get a new headset -- i thought this was the one in which Karla Turner talks about the vats of Human body parts discovered on a ship, & that our mil/intel/gov't knows about this

    edit to add: i think it was on a crashed ship, & our military discovered the vats during a crash retrieval

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    I too just finished watching the video offered by Jean-Luc, and do concur, it was an excellent trail of evidence. I don't believe any serious researcher is denying these evidential facts regarding the UFO phenomenon.

    This is all confirming evidence to what was offered in 2003 by John Lear on Coast-to-Coast with Art Bell in the, now famous, John Lear Disclosure.

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2003/11/02

    You should be aware of what John has been saying for the best part of the last decade, Bill. You interviewed John quits some time back.

    The continual rehashing of the disclosure issue is much like preaching to the choir. It is a most important issue with those who have no understanding. Most of us don't really have any issues with disclosing anything regarding the UFO phenomenon as something real.

    It is now long past time that we, as members to this forum, stop concerning ourselves with 'disclosure', as this disclosure process has been ongoing for nearly the past ten years.

    It is now time to focus on WHY? Let's move-on and come to some understanding as to why this is occurring.

    This is the focus of my reason for being at Avalon.
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Jean-Luc, I just finished "UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact 2012 (Full Documentary)". It seems I need an upgrade in my beliefs.

    Last winter, I listened to at least three of the guest speakers. But today, I understand them differently, partly because I'm perceiving differently. Exciting to know that it's beginning to 'stick'.

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

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    Yes, wynderer,

    I can show you many testimonies dating back several years regarding what 'they' are doing, which all goes to answering the question of WHY.

    Here's one form a television series aired in '09, that mentions vats of body parts and fully suspended human bodies. There are more of these kinds of videos that I could link. Phil Schneider touched on these observations also before his death in the mid 90s. There has been much mention of body parts and collection of glandular fluids that I'm aware of.

    This farming operation has been a continuous process since the Dawn of Man. It seems to me those of us who have accepted the phenomenon should be looking for more evidence that shows understanding as to why.

    My point in the comment you quoted is that there is entirely too much focus on disclosure, and not enough focus on 'why'. It's almost as if the real answers are being delayed by an agenda of focusing on the disclosure issue. It's my belief this is a delaying tactic and part of a much larger agenda.

    They are very clever at what they do....
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    The topic of disclosure must be frustrating for those who are waiting for an official account of disclosure from the very people ...who have always kept this disclosure from you.

    It's not going to be official until the people who have always sought (and not always succeeded) to keep up in the dark put their stamp of approval on it?

    What qualifies as a trustworthy disclosure? From Obama? He's trustworthy? Really?

    Maybe we should make a list of things we don't know and stop focusing on what we already know.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by Finefeather (here)

    [....snip]

    ".... but as we have come a little further along the way we have also learned a bit more.

    This entire thread is related to the subject of this article and we have seen in the last few pages people like 9eagle9 amongst others, give excellent insight into the causes and solutions of this increasing madness on the planet."
    I begin my reply with a quote from the video offered by Jean-Luc:
    Quote “There are a thousand things which prevent a man from awakening, which keep him in the power of his dreams. In order to act consciously with the intention of awakening, it is necessary to know the nature of the forces which keep man in a state of sleep. First of all it must be realized that the sleep in which man exists is not normal but hypnotic sleep. Man is hypnotized and this hypnotic state is continually maintained and strengthened in him. One would think that there are forces for whom it is useful and profitable to keep man in a hypnotic state and prevent him from seeing the truth and understanding his position.”

    - G. I. Gurdjieff

    Ouspensky, in his book " In Search of the Miraculous" attributed that quote to Gurdjieff sometime between 1915 and 1925.

    I address this reply to all the members, not just to what Finefeather is saying.

    "Everything we think we understand is a small part of a much bigger lie.... and the lie is different at every level of understanding"

    The message that Humanity has always received from telepathically communicated thought has consistently been laced with obscured Truth, masked within a believable lie.

    I ask any member who subscribes to the understanding suggested by the telepathically communicated hypnotic thought process, if there has ever been a 'change for the better' since the Dawn of Man? With this perspective, why would one believe any such rubbish that we are 'creators' of our destiny? Has this principal ever manifest itself anywhere within the history of Humanity?

    Ask that woman in the Golan Heights, sitting in the rubble of her bombed-out home, holding the body of her dead infant, if she feels like a 'co-creator' of her own destiny, today.

    These ideas are contrary to the available evidence.

    The evidence suggests this particular reality is a locked-down matrix. It also suggests there is a 'shutting-down' operation already in progress, evidenced by plasma phenomenon, and black hole (singularity) anomalies observed throughout the known universe.

    Call that 'doom-and-gloom' if you prefer. I think I've made my point clear. Accept it , or reject it, the choice is completely up to the individual.

    I suggest to any concerned member, the time is ripe to research and design an exit strategy, and stop subscribing to failed theologies regarding a "bright new dawn".
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Post Thank Yous

    Amzer Zo’s several recent posts (this is one poster I always take seriously)
    Specifically his point that thought created beings are out there and part of the reality just as much as interdimensional beings who have the capacity to manifest in physical form in the 3rd dimension such as Reptilians and Greys. A “BOTH” situation.

    The thought crossed my mind that in truth, no one is the end all to be all expert on any of this.

    In addition, what works for one person in the achievement of solution (and perhaps eventually full resolution) does not necessarily have to be what works for another.

    That if there is a full and final resolution achievable by any spirit being, I doubt seriously it would happen for all spirit beings all at the same time within our shared, material world reality.

    And finally, full resolution for any single individual, if able to be achieved, would only ever be able to be judged at the end of “time” or perhaps (if one is open to the concept) when the material realms are transcended.

    ...just my current views, what do I know anyways?


    CdnSirian – Post #1530 – the entire post but specifically – “It's just too big to settle for tuning in exclusively to the "we are just pawns" reality.”

    and

    “I think we have to create a good deal of the time, that we are sovreign in our life and consciousness. What else is going to give us the Oomph to deal with the cr**p when it looms into our view screen?

    Hope this makes some sense.”

    makes total sense - (I might add... "sovereign yet ever still connected")


    The Dr. Greer view versus the “there definitely is malevolent non human beings.”

    Dr. Greer is right

    and there is definitely non human beings (beyond the various “kingdoms” we know are common to earth) [EDIT! - not sure what happened to the rest of my sentence!] ...that may eat humans - eat either the physical and/or other essences and from a human being perspective could be viewed as malevolent.

    Wait a minute, justonecontradictor... how can both be true?

    Perspective... purely and simply.

    For example, Bill once mentioned the possibility “we” might be a bit hypocritical as we consume meat. Think about it... we have the right to kill an animal and consume that animal’s flesh and yet we are outraged that a Reptilian would do the same with a human being?

    We would likely be perceived as malevolent by cows and chickens and pigs and fish and on and on... so are we also malevolent?

    What else do we consume besides the physical material of an animal being when we eat it? Do we “know?” Can we “prove” we are only eating physical flesh?

    If a spirit being consumes more than just flesh and is capable of obtaining sustenance from something other than the physical flesh, is that not still “eating?”

    That one or more of us can “get over” these possibilities, move beyond the outrage, move beyond the anger and enter into a state where one might be able to consider potential solutions to this interesting phenomena of “consumption” that appears to be an inherent, core aspect of the entire physical universe all the way to black holes – solutions that could manifest at least on our Earth in some future time, is that “bad?”

    Anyways – I graduated from the victim game, I graduated from the anger. I graduated from my arrogance that because I am a human being, I must be at the top of the food chain. I graduated from the us/them dynamic. I graduated from the fear of “the world’s gonna end and most of us are left here to die horribly!!! ahhhhhhh.”

    And I did this in large part due to the good fortune I have had to survive myself and then find this forum, pour it all out, sort it all out and Wammo – here I am, ready to be the change I want to see, happily, optimistically, and determined like never before.

    Yes, only one eye left, yes, a body riddled with parasites, yes, enough personally caused trauma to send many to institutions for years and years not to mention the dramas I sucked loved ones and friends into throughout my 54 + years, and yes, a field so wide open still that perhaps I attract even nastier critters... but I have had enough of school and so I have graduated... at least from the programs mentioned above.

    I am sure there are new schools I will soon be entering. I hope my applications will be approved.

    and to WhiteCrowBlackDeer... what would it be like with no more a-has? Can we say, boring? (justoneopinion)

    justoneman
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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    The topic of disclosure must be frustrating for those who are waiting for an official account of disclosure from the very people ...who have always kept this disclosure from you.

    It's not going to be official until the people who have always sought (and not always succeeded) to keep up in the dark put their stamp of approval on it?

    What qualifies as a trustworthy disclosure? From Obama? He's trustworthy? Really?

    Maybe we should make a list of things we don't know and stop focusing on what we already know.
    I don't believe "disclosure" is going to happen anytime soon either, at least not in a truthful and or detailed way. Any type of disclosure at this point in time IMO would only be another big lie with another sinister agenda behind it, such as the gov saying: "We have made contact with aliens and they promised to help us".

    On a planet with the majority of the masses believing in one type or another supernatural righteous God and/or Savior, it would be foolish to tell the world the opposite is true.

    The majority of the masses can't handle the truth....nor would they believe something so dark, evil, and bizarre any ways.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    from Justoneman's post:

    For example, Bill once mentioned the possibility “we” might be a bit hypocritical as we consume meat. Think about it... we have the right to kill an animal and consume that animal’s flesh and yet we are outraged that a Reptilian would do the same with a human being?

    We would likely be perceived as malevolent by cows and chickens and pigs and fish and on and on... so are we also malevolent?

    What else do we consume besides the physical material of an animal being when we eat it? Do we “know?” Can we “prove” we are only eating physical flesh?
    If a spirit being consumes more than just flesh... is capable of obtaining sustenance from something other than the physical flesh, is that not still “eating?”

    That one or more of us can “get over” these possibilities, move beyond the outrage, move beyond the anger and enter into a state where one might be able to consider potential solutions to this interesting phenomena of “consumption” that appears to be an inherent, core aspect of the entire physical universe all the way to black holes – solutions that could manifest at least on our Earth in some future time, is that “bad?”


    i've been thinking about posting something relating to your post above on Exomatrix' 'Aliens analyzing Humans' thread, & you brought up one of the points i was going to make, re killing & eating non-Human Animals by Humans

    we have a higher-consciousness solution to the 3D-consumption issue already -- plenty of studies show that vegetarians & vegans are healthier then those who consume dead Animals

    re whether Humans are malevolent in their treatment of Animals, i'd say Yes -- incredibly so -- factory farms -- fur farms -- labs -- 'sports' where Animals are forced to fight to the death -- Animals are used in satanic rituals in far greater numbers than Humans, & no one speaks for them --etc -- etc

    most Humans are complicit in this -- & most thru consumption of your Animal brothers' & sisters' flesh -- i believe that whatever one gives permission to the Universe to be done to another, one gives permission for it to be done to oneself [ the 'We are all One' riff going around the net now]

    Humans have given the invaders permission to treat them as they treat Animals

    as i said elsewhere, i have no problem w/'judging' -- i figure that's one reason the Creator gave me a mind & a heart -- i 'judge' what Humans do to Animals as wrong, & i judge what the Reptilians/Greys/etc are doing to Humans as wrong

    collective karma is heavy & dense, & not easy to get free of at 'death'
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    thank you for your posts, Observer -- i am learning from you

    re this from your post:
    'The evidence suggests this particular reality is a locked-down matrix. It also suggests there is a 'shutting-down' operation already in progress, evidenced by plasma phenomenon, and black hole (singularity) anomalies observed throughout the known universe.'

    i agree that this planet Earth 'reality' is a locked-down matrix -- my question for you: are you saying that this entire 3D universe/reality/dimension is being shut down? -- thru black holes? -- i had been thinking of this as kind of a localized operation, in this galaxy or sector thereof -- CERN etc seem to poking some holes in this locality, & HAARP generates plasma

    i learned from Houman that the Gnostics believed that this entire 3D universe was kind of sub-created by a nasty 'demiurge', but, again, i'd always thought of the darkside having gained control of only a relatively small sector of this universe --perhaps limited to this galaxy

    i've always thought that this planet could so easily have been a paradise -- for all beings here, esp Humans, whose bodies were created to feel so much pleasure from so many of the gifts of Earth herself -- just the fragrance of flowers alone, for instance

    i also think that this is what the Creator intended -- & that the erect spine & chakras were not intended to lie dormant -- Humans have been deliberately cut off from the Creator/Source

    wyn



    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    Quote Posted by Finefeather (here)

    [....snip]

    ".... but as we have come a little further along the way we have also learned a bit more.

    This entire thread is related to the subject of this article and we have seen in the last few pages people like 9eagle9 amongst others, give excellent insight into the causes and solutions of this increasing madness on the planet."
    I begin my reply with a quote from the video offered by Jean-Luc:
    Quote “There are a thousand things which prevent a man from awakening, which keep him in the power of his dreams. In order to act consciously with the intention of awakening, it is necessary to know the nature of the forces which keep man in a state of sleep. First of all it must be realized that the sleep in which man exists is not normal but hypnotic sleep. Man is hypnotized and this hypnotic state is continually maintained and strengthened in him. One would think that there are forces for whom it is useful and profitable to keep man in a hypnotic state and prevent him from seeing the truth and understanding his position.”

    - G. I. Gurdjieff

    Ouspensky, in his book " In Search of the Miraculous" attributed that quote to Gurdjieff sometime between 1915 and 1925.

    I address this reply to all the members, not just to what Finefeather is saying.

    "Everything we think we understand is a small part of a much bigger lie.... and the lie is different at every level of understanding"

    The message that Humanity has always received from telepathically communicated thought has consistently been laced with obscured Truth, masked within a believable lie.

    I ask any member who subscribes to the understanding suggested by the telepathically communicated hypnotic thought process, if there has ever been a 'change for the better' since the Dawn of Man? With this perspective, why would one believe any such rubbish that we are 'creators' of our destiny? Has this principal ever manifest itself anywhere within the history of Humanity?

    Ask that woman in the Golan Heights, sitting in the rubble of her bombed-out home, holding the body of her dead infant, if she feels like a 'co-creator' of her own destiny, today.

    These ideas are contrary to the available evidence.

    The evidence suggests this particular reality is a locked-down matrix. It also suggests there is a 'shutting-down' operation already in progress, evidenced by plasma phenomenon, and black hole (singularity) anomalies observed throughout the known universe.

    Call that 'doom-and-gloom' if you prefer. I think I've made my point clear. Accept it , or reject it, the choice is completely up to the individual.

    I suggest to any concerned member, the time is ripe to research and design an exit strategy, and stop subscribing to failed theologies regarding a "bright new dawn".

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    "We cut up human fetuses for stem cell research.
    . We remove organs and blood from one human and place it in another.
    . We slaughter animals everyday and devour the flesh, often raw.
    . We drink the blood of live snakes.
    . We make sausage out of pigs blood.
    . We rape children because we think it may cure AIDS.
    . We have sex with dead cadavers in morgues.
    . We have sex with live animals.
    . We stick our penises into a hole full of ****e.
    . We milk live horses of their blood to make vaccine.
    . We inject live monkeys and mice with chemicals no one will come near to.
    . We spray live monkeys in their eyes to test chemicals.
    . We kill thousands everyday with chemical drugs and pollution.
    . We kill thousands everyday with medically approved drugs."

    All of the above is done by choice, not by necessity. A doctor may praise a person for being a vegetarian....but think strangely of a person who doesn't want a vaccine for the same reason they chose to be a vegetarian. None of the above list is necessary, we create reasons for the above behaviors to be necessary, mostly to improve quality of life. Excuse me we are under the mistaken notion we are improving the quality of physical life. But we aren't just physical entities.

    This is why I keep emphasizing we have to examine our own parasitical behaviors....if we are parasitical in nature what do we hope to attract energetically?

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    The point was made about humans accepting and actively participating in the exploitation of animals. That being said most of humanity has also buried their heads in the sand and allowed old growth forests to be slashed and burned, oceans to be polluted and the list goes on... My point is whether or not the exploitation of humanity is our karma? The law of karma is impossible to escape and we as a species have sure racked up an expensive tab. Is it going to take a dose of our own medicine to get us to understand that empathy and compassion is something that all creatures as well as our mother earth is deserving of? Is the evil of reptilian demonic creatures the extreme catalyst it's gonna take to shake humanity out of our nonapologetic selfishness? I hope people could wake up and treat other life w/ respect but since we can't seem to get our collective act together, maybe we should be knocked off the throne of creation that so much of humanity feels and acts entitled to.

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    "We cut up human fetuses for stem cell research.
    . We remove organs and blood from one human and place it in another.
    . We slaughter animals everyday and devour the flesh, often raw.
    . We drink the blood of live snakes.
    . We make sausage out of pigs blood.
    . We rape children because we think it may cure AIDS.
    . We have sex with dead cadavers in morgues.
    . We have sex with live animals.
    . We stick our penises into a hole full of ****e.
    . We milk live horses of their blood to make vaccine.
    . We inject live monkeys and mice with chemicals no one will come near to.
    . We spray live monkeys in their eyes to test chemicals.
    . We kill thousands everyday with chemical drugs and pollution.
    . We kill thousands everyday with medically approved drugs."

    All of the above is done by choice, not by necessity. A doctor may praise a person for being a vegetarian....but think strangely of a person who doesn't want a vaccine for the same reason they chose to be a vegetarian. None of the above list is necessary, we create reasons for the above behaviors to be necessary, mostly to improve quality of life. Excuse me we are under the mistaken notion we are improving the quality of physical life. But we aren't just physical entities.

    This is why I keep emphasizing we have to examine our own parasitical behaviors....if we are parasitical in nature what do we hope to attract energetically?
    Great post. You're 100% right.

    The human race is an enormous mixed bag of agendas, beliefs, compulsions, and aberrations. There are, and have been, some exceptionally wonderful human beings who might be the equal of any ET (or angelic being!) in terms of wisdom, balance, focus and development.

    There also are, and have been, many depraved, arrogant, brutal and downright evil people. And I'm sure those qualities exist in some ETs as well. Sorting all this out is part of the problem.
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

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    1. All of our perception of reality is centered on this single tiny orb located within an electromagnetic field we perceive and call "The Universe". From this vantage point, everything we perceive is manipulated by the control matrix that is in place around this 'prison planet'.

    How does anyone know anything about the structure of the universe we perceive when those perceptions have only come from our observations, here on this sphere?

    2. What we know about plasma can be simplified by three rules.
    • Plasma is now being understood by certain "Plasma Physicists" as the "Forth State of Matter"
    • Plasma can only exists within an electromagnetic field.
    • Plasma only occurs when it is 'triggered'.
    To my knowledge, there is no consciences as to what 'triggers' the plasma discharges being observed throughout (what we perceive as) the 'known universe'. From my interpretations, I would suggest this 'trigger mechanism' is located outside of what we can perceive, i.e., outside of the known universe.

    Since the known universe is some 14 billion (or so) light-years across,

    And since, even reconciling the speed of the longitudinal propogation wave of electrical discharge has been measured at approximately 1.5 times the speed of light, it would still take some 9.33 billion years to observe the final effects of any such 'shutting-down' application.

    This has already been observed in the anomalous features of some black holes (singularities) found throughout the known universe. Einsteinian Physicists have 'invented' all sorts of explanations for these anomalous discoveries.

    I would suggest a 'shutting-down' process is yet one more interpretation.

    3. I would also like to restate what you said in your comment #1549

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    beginning with: "we have a higher-consciousness solution to the 3D-consumption issue already -- plenty of studies show that vegetarians & vegans are healthier than those who consume dead Animals....."
    Consumption of the flesh of a beast is foundational to remaining locked within the matrix of control.

    The evidence will show, that the creation of the Human Species was specifically designed to create a slave race that would be eternally indebted to a demiurge, i.e. an archonic controller. Part of this eternal indebtedness is the product of the consumption of meat. That this species needs meat to survive is a myth.

    So many of the 'True Gnostic' followers throughout antiquity were practicing vegetarians. This is a fact that was perverted by the Templar when they assumed the role of 'keepers of the gnosis' nearly one thousand years ago.

    There really are two different types of Gnosis. But, why wouldn't this be so? We are locked here within this controlled matrix with Abject Evil behind the curtain of illusion.
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    The world is not in some state of siege as some like to make us belief, and yes things are going to happen that will cause death and distruction, but there is no need for us to start walling up our doors, and hanging garlic around our necks. The amount of abductions are a minute percentage of the world population which is increasing by the day.
    Thank You, Finefeather for a direct, true (to me) hard hitting post and which the younger me would have rejected. justoneman

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    To observer and wynderer

    Though I would not rule out the above stated possibility, my intuition rejects. Regardless, thank you both for your views.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    "We cut up human fetuses for stem cell research.
    . We remove organs and blood from one human and place it in another.
    . We slaughter animals everyday and devour the flesh, often raw.
    . We drink the blood of live snakes.
    . We make sausage out of pigs blood.
    . We rape children because we think it may cure AIDS.
    . We have sex with dead cadavers in morgues.
    . We have sex with live animals.
    . We stick our penises into a hole full of ****e.
    . We milk live horses of their blood to make vaccine.
    . We inject live monkeys and mice with chemicals no one will come near to.
    . We spray live monkeys in their eyes to test chemicals.
    . We kill thousands everyday with chemical drugs and pollution.
    . We kill thousands everyday with medically approved drugs."

    All of the above is done by choice, not by necessity. A doctor may praise a person for being a vegetarian....but think strangely of a person who doesn't want a vaccine for the same reason they chose to be a vegetarian. None of the above list is necessary, we create reasons for the above behaviors to be necessary, mostly to improve quality of life. Excuse me we are under the mistaken notion we are improving the quality of physical life. But we aren't just physical entities.

    This is why I keep emphasizing we have to examine our own parasitical behaviors....if we are parasitical in nature what do we hope to attract energetically?
    Great post. You're 100% right.

    The human race is an enormous mixed bag of agendas, beliefs, compulsions, and aberrations. There are, and have been, some exceptionally wonderful human beings who might be the equal of any ET (or angelic being!) in terms of wisdom, balance, focus and development.

    There also are, and have been, many depraved, arrogant, brutal and downright evil people. And I'm sure those qualities exist in some ETs as well. Sorting all this out is part of the problem.
    And why any solution (to be achieved by humanity on earth) must come from humanity on earth. And in my opinion, can only come from within each and every human being.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Cause and effect.

    If we burn down every tree and plant on the planet we won't be able to breath.

    This is not punishment or karma, (or reward...lol) its simply a result of the actions and choices we've made.

    As we have poisoned the earth so have we poisoned ourselves. We are driving ourselves crazy.

    If I drink Drano I'll die.

    Who seems to be the one dispensing karma here?...me.

    Now for the people who never burnt down a tree or a plant to share in this punishment fair?

    No. But there isn't anyone on earth who hasn't participated in one way or the other , directly or indirectly, in destroying a tree or plant. Unless someone came straight out of the womb and levitated through life, never having a bon fire, or stepped on the earth, or bought wood furniture, etc we've done just that.

    There are meaningful ways to employee the earth's resources and there are ways that are just careless and parasitical.

    The nature of this planet is that in order for something to live, something must physically die. PHYSICALLY die.

    This does not mean we have exterminated out of existence, it means we have altered its circumstances somewhat.



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    The point was made about humans accepting and actively participating in the exploitation of animals. That being said most of humanity has also buried their heads in the sand and allowed old growth forests to be slashed and burned, oceans to be polluted and the list goes on... My point is whether or not the exploitation of humanity is our karma? The law of karma is impossible to escape and we as a species have sure racked up an expensive tab. Is it going to take a dose of our own medicine to get us to understand that empathy and compassion is something that all creatures as well as our mother earth is deserving of? Is the evil of reptilian demonic creatures the extreme catalyst it's gonna take to shake humanity out of our nonapologetic selfishness? I hope people could wake up and treat other life w/ respect but since we can't seem to get our collective act together, maybe we should be knocked off the throne of creation that so much of humanity feels and acts entitled to.

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    Well, as long as we are on the topic of aberrant behaviors associated with aliens, we need to go back 200,000 years and start at the beginning, where the "sons of the gods" took "the daughters of men" unto themselves... and we got a brand new hybrid, which is us. Whether these were giants or what not, they were aliens. We are all part of this genetic experiment.

    In the last several decades, it is fairly common knowledge among the alternative media community, that there were several crashes in the 40's and 50's, that aliens were recovered, that we are visited by these aliens, that Eisenhower did meet with them at Edwards AFB, that we did have an agreement with them to abduct us in exchange for technology, that there was an underground human farm facility under Dulce (as per Phil Schneider) where such genetic experiments of cloning and hybridization and torture and extraction got out of hand, and the underground Dulce wars did in fact occur.

    It is also common knowledge that these extractions, abductions, and all manner of aberrant experiments continue to this day, creating all kinds of perverse and bizarre outcomes. Yet, what is impossible to extract and understand is the nature of the soul. Although vampirism of life force has been going on for millennium, how to actually extract a soul from a body and contain it within another biomasss, has not been accomplished to the best of my knowledge. Sure, there is illusion of perception, possession and other techniques of extracting life force, but not full soul removal.

    This is the Achilles heel, and it is what we need to focus on. As a human species, with all of the aberrant tendencies of the aliens fully imbedded within our very nature, our very core DNA, we can CHOOSE to focus on our soulstream essence, and become enlightened beings, and move away from the basic, dumbed down version, carnal biometric slaves we are, and the illusion that we must remain there because that is all there is.

    The main caveat is that there is a possibility that the experiment is being terminated and the fact that soul essence cannot be extracted , and that the new hybrid humans are ready to be released while the old version, which is us, is to be exterminated...

    I know, I know, this is fairly radical thinking, but if true, should we not be aware and do what we can to stop it? Check out this half hour video with Barry Trower in regards to seeding for EMF and Microwave effects, which can be triggered to bring alive certain viruses and such by different frequency. it's all set up and ready for to pull the trigger at any time. Chemtrails anyone?

    http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/...e-weapons.html
    "Lay Down Your Truth and Check Your Weapons
    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhS69C1tr0w

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