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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by schneider (here)
    Another concern is what happens to our minds when these changes occur. Like he said, we may be experiencing the beginnings of this already. Are there any studies out that have shown the affects of quick magnetic changes on humans, animals or plants?
    This is the point that caught my attention - where he starts talking about the psychological affects of magnetic field shifts - which he suggests may be starting even now. This does not appear to be an area in which he has expertise.

    At about 21:10, he says "Let me just throw this in ... [pointing at camera] ... Have you noticed how many cases of normal people suddenly going crazy and doing unthinkable things are happening lately? It all makes sense .... There are certainly no zombies. But I believe that some of the weakest, most vulnerable minds are already being affected by the earliest, slightest magnetic disturbances."

    He seems to be alluding here to the recent mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado. But no information he gave about his education or training indicates that he has a basis for making such an extrapolation, i.e. from slight magnetic disturbances (which may be occurring even now) to such an event. As a consequence, this part of his presentation comes across as a kind of fear-mongering without a scientific basis.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
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    My problem is that is does not seem to be the same guy. Check at the nose in the video vs the picture.
    ...
    1: Shape of the mans nose in the picture is different to the Dr Sal's in the video.
    2: Dr Sal has quiet a prominent dark mole on the left side of his cheek, this man in your picture, does not.

    The human mind interprets different faces by there shape and structure. That is how we can remember our mothers face from our sisters face, ect. If you look at the facial shape and structure of Dr Sal and the individual in your pictures, you can clearly see they are not the same.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Bill, i will refer you to your own post, at the bottom: other name: Sal conti post 70


    If I do not check for myself, I may as well go on the channelling threads and stay there.

    Seriously, how many astro-physicist, Italian, working at Nasa, doing what exactly the work described in the video is there? Salvatore and Alberto??? Unless they are twins, I bet there is just one working at Nasa in science under the name of Conti or Conte and born and raised in Italy.

    It seem that he took Alberto's credential and created something interesting with it.

    From ATS:
    Quote Dr Sal's Warning, page 22





    www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread870306/pg22





    Block all www.abovetopsecret.com results


    17 posts - 9 authors - 17 hours ago
    I found some papers written by a conti, S along with other researchers on the ... Also, the name sergio is used which is likely a different alias.. maybe a pen name. .... what his middle initial could be, but I did find two matches for "Salvatore Conti" .... things he is saying run contrary to what we know of physics and astronomy.
    It is fine Bill, I won't research it anylonger.

    By the way, I did not say you were wrong or nothing will happen, I did just say this dude may be a fake.

    Adi, that is precisely what I am saying those ARE NOT the same guy. The real astronomere is the one in the pictures, with a different name, Alberto and not Salvatore or Sal. The second in the video is, in my idea, an imposter.
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    I hope this Dr grabbed some insurance as well to back up his story. Other wise the powers that be will plug the leaks internally and that is the end of the story, if true that is.

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    Ok, in trying to figure out where this dude was coming from, perhaps something related to the following was his line of thinking:

    The newest theories in physics state that gravity as a weak force is an effect of the 'brane within which we exist interacting with others and with the source of gravitation, which exists beyond our universe and our experience of it is only partial compared to its full force wherever its origin might be.

    Beyond that, any shifts in gravitation that occur simultaneous to a magnetic pole shift could affect the actual physical matter on the planet, as well as electromagnetism (as it is affected by gravitation) and which could potentially affect any metals in the earth itself and upon the earth, which could in turn lead to tectonic shifting and volcanic pressure release.

    The atomic value (number) stuff is pure alchemy. And not the spiritual type. Changing the values is equivalent to changing its properties, making it something else altogether.

    The equatorial bulge stuff has to do with the spin of the earth, it's not a perfect circle, it's a geoid, and it's wide at the middle because of its rotation on its axis, according to the most popular theory. I'm not exactly sure what he's talking about here unless he is speaking about some sort of mass movement of earth mass to the equator, causing the bulge to increase, which might be related to the first paragraphs above, if the theories being put forth regarding the nature of gravity now are accurate.

    All of the pole shift theories I've ever seen talk about the ice caps melting and destabilizing the planet as being the most probable cause of a physical pole shift, or some massive astronomical body passing close to the earth.

    The forces at work within the planet's interior are massive, the pressures are beyond imagining if the current model of the earth and its internal composition are true and the core is a giant metallic and crystalline ball surrounded by a molten region. Anybody who plans to go down there when things get iffy on the surface must have quite a bit of faith in human technology.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    With security regulations, and the consequences, why would this Dr risk a good job, and his career?
    If Dr Conti had recorded his message anonymously, on audio only, maybe with his voice changed with an audio filter, can you imagine how people would ridicule it?

    The dismissal from quite a few folks (who simply do not want to believe anything like this) is discouraging enough as it is -- even though he's stated his credentials and left his face and voice unchanged.

    What more should the guy do?
    After doing this it is highly likely he doesn't work at NASA anymore. I for one Bill, do NOT want to believe this, especially being a father. This is "deadly" news if true, which it may or may not be. People don't want to hear that they and all their loved ones are most likely going to be snuffed out.

    It is true that many things going on over the past several years could really make this scenario very likely (seed vault, underground bases/colonies, Elites cashing in, etc) that would cause many to believe this guy and his story. Most of us here on this forum know something BIG is gonna happen, most likely soon too. 2016 is rather sooner than later in my opinion.

    I find a scenario like this quite possible but I am hesitant to bite the hook on this one so to speak, mainly due to seeing one story after another like this coming out almost on a daily basis it seems lately, claiming the end of the world or ELE type scenarios. This year especially has been full of "hard to believe" stories....people like Sal are coming out of the woodwork at the speed of light it seems lately.

    This "new" claim needs some more research for sure and crossed examined big time.

    Watching him speak I did think of the Hopi purification prophecy and some other ancient prophecies that somewhat align with a type of event that could be dove-tailed with this......

    it'll take a bit more convincing for me to believe this Sal dude though
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    In my opinion, this is just another example of Avalon's bi-yearly end of the world dramas.

    Every single end of the world prediction and scenario from this website has proven to be false. All prediction of disasters were duds

    Bill Ryan, due to his numerous misfires, has a pretty good track record for backing duds. Therefore I don't take too seriously his stamp of approval for truth.


    However, no matter how many times the Jester come out saying " The World is ending! The world is ending!"
    The vast majority eats it up like Mac Donald's french fries.

    Well...now that I said my piece, let us all go back and eat more fear of dying.


    Myself I am just going to love rather than to fear
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    I remember reading that in the 1960s or late 1950s the US military for a reason I cannot recall at present, wanted to blast a hole in the ozone layer, it got the go ahead through the military channels to the highest level, it was only the President that stopped it. So I have an open mind on these on all sorts of military and government projects, regardless of how off beat or bizarre, but I am cautious about these matters.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    I am thankful for all the thoughtful posts. Yes, it is very true we keep getting these posts / vids of seemingly knowledgeable well some are some are not about upcoming events. I personally don't believe anything other than hurricanes and earthquakes, false flag events will be happening in 2012. I will not simply dismiss any new report just because of all the other bs ones. I think we have some pretty good investigators on this site, and flash, I hope you still dig, because you are obviously pretty well skilled in it.

    If this guy is legit, he will either be in perpetual hiding or dead soon imho. If he is a liar he will get his 15 minutes of fame and then after thousands of posts it will die down and disappear. My view is watch, listen and verify. That's the only reason I posted this here. I believe we have some sound scientific minds and I don't care if Bill has backed donkeys in the past, he has valid experience and insights and whether I agree or disagree with someone, I'd be a fool to not hear them out if they have pertinent information to share.
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    I was in the Army 1986-1990 , my job was nuclear biological chemical warfare. The only protection from radiation is DISTANCE. If the amount of rads you recieve per hour is over the safe level, you will not survive. I don't care what anyone says, you wont survive. You have two hours to get to a safe distance from the radiation that will be carried by wind, and contaminate water, and the ground , you can't drink the water or touch the ground. This is a model for radiation exposure at a ground zero point, meaning it was focused in a specific area, when you talk of a GLOBAL covering of the entire planet with radiation, ... nothing will survive, no plant, no animal , no humans, no single cell , and it will take years for something like this to disperse and even then the ground and the water will take even longer to return to safe levels for life. I dont know much about what is talked about on the forum, I can't spell worth a dam, I don't post videos I'm not that skilled in computers, but when it comes to nuclear, or chemical warfare/protection, I know what I'm saying . How many people survived hiroshima at ground zero ? imagine that all over the earth without the big boom fireball , in the Army we called it silent death, you can't see it, taste it , or touch it, but it's there. If ET is correct , it's game over. If ET is wrong , nothing will happen. I wonder is this group of ET's is running low on fear energy , what better way to power up than spook the caveman humans on earth. It does bring the underground cities into play, and our governments lack of interest in anything but their own lives.
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    Quote Posted by christinedream7 (here)
    All i have to say is...the source of the message is unknown

    Yes very good point christinedream.
    Perhaps the Atlantean renegades are try to break the Etheric Barrier/Ouroboros and leave their quarantine?


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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    The essential point he is making is not so much that there will be an earth-shattering event ....
    Or he would have stopped there.
    But he went on to say at the end that humanity needs to unite in the face of such danger...
    And to make it through that event people need to put aside their different religious beliefs
    and focus on one single belief in one single God...

    In other words, he is calling for a new world religion.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    The only protection from radiation is DISTANCE. If the amount of rads you recieve per hour is over the safe level, you will not survive. I don't care what anyone says, you wont survive. You have two hours to get to a safe distance from the radiation that will be carried by wind, and contaminate water, and the ground , you can't drink the water or touch the ground. This is a model for radiation exposure at a ground zero point, meaning it was focused in a specific area, when you talk of a GLOBAL covering of the entire planet with radiation, ... nothing will survive, no plant, no animal , no humans, no single cell , and it will take years for something like this to disperse and even then the ground and the water will take even longer to return to safe levels for life.
    Doesn't that depend on how much radiation? It is not a binary condition - either kill everything, or zero radiation. We experience radiation from the sun and from elsewhere in space all the time - just not enough to usually cause noticeable harm.

    And isn't shielding, of appropriate material and depth, useful? Otherwise how could technicians manage nuclear reactors? They are too close ... but protected by serious shielding.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    If we can prove that this guy is genuine, then I will take it all back, and we better start taking this seriously, the guy was pouring his heart out, but for me it did not tally, I don't know why.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    We already know there is going to be a magnetic pole shift, so consideration of confirmation from "far off" and "advanced" super beings is irrelevant. Pole shifts have been known to occur for hundreds of years with varying degrees of impact on Earth. So no big deal.

    Why is it that all these super beings from advanced races in the darkest parts of some unknown galaxy always communicate in English? Of course I realise Sali is an Applied Mathematics professional (confirmation needed) and mathematics is the universal language of everything (supposedly), so how come the cypher developed to interpret those signals (and retransmit) had become so proficient to broadcast such a complex message as portrayed by Sali?

    The van Allen belts will NOT collapse to the surface of earth. The Earths magnetism is a derivative of GRAVITY. Electricity (both scalar and commercial) is a derivative of MAGNETISM. So no matter the speed of pole reversal gravity will remain the same throughout and everything electrical will be impacted including life forms, us.

    Being vague for the source troubles me. The use of HAARP as well, personally rings bells and at this moment I find that difficult to believe. But, assuming HAARP was used then how do we know this actually off world transmissions in the first place?

    The Earth cannot possibly be alone in experiencing pole reversal, other bodies in the solar system will be affected and little is mentioned about the position of the Solar System in respect of its position in the spiral arm of the Milky Way that promotes this problem in the first place, something that should have been considered IMO during Sali's presentation. Am sure the aliens noticed:-)

    With reagrd DUMBS, China has just completed the largest underground nuclear test ever. Thats going to leave a whacking great hole to build an underground shelter.

    And 2016 is the thousand year anniversary of the building of Solomons Temple.

    Whether whistleblower or otherwise, Sali IMO has brought nothing to the table that isn't already known. Frustrating us all with unverifiable sources and from an institution that courts conspiracy controversy at each announcement. Now he has disappeared. I really do think, if you are going to commit to revelation then you dump the mother lobe of data into the public arena as an offset to being made dead.

    For my part, am equipped for the pole reversal: deck chair, sunglasses and snorkel. Of course posting to Avalon in real time as it happens.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Here is a Wikipedia summary as to why a magnetic pole inversion would ensure a collapse of the Van Allen Radiation Belt:

    Magnetic field


    Schematic of Earth's magnetosphere. The solar wind flows from left to right




    Main article: Earth's magnetic field
    The Earth's magnetic field is shaped roughly as a magnetic dipole, with the poles currently located proximate to the planet's geographic poles.

    [...]

    According to dynamo theory, the field is generated within the molten outer core region where heat creates convection motions of conducting materials, generating electric currents. These in turn produce the Earth's magnetic field. The convection movements in the core are chaotic; the magnetic poles drift and periodically change alignment. This results in field reversals at irregular intervals averaging a few times every million years. The most recent reversal occurred approximately 700,000 years ago.[125][126]

    The field forms the magnetosphere, which deflects particles in the solar wind. The sunward edge of the bow shock is located at about 13 times the radius of the Earth. The collision between the magnetic field and the solar wind forms the Van Allen radiation belts, a pair of concentric, torus-shaped regions of energetic charged particles. When the plasma enters the Earth's atmosphere at the magnetic poles, it forms the aurora.[127]

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    What generates the scenario put forth in the video is this:

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    South Atlantic Anomaly

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    The anomaly at an altitude of approximately 560 kilometers[1]


    The South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) is an area where the Earth's inner Van Allen radiation belt comes closest to the Earth's surface dipping down to an altitude of 200km (124mi). This leads to an increased flux of energetic particles in this region and exposes orbiting satellites to higher than usual levels of radiation. The effect is caused by the non-concentricity of the Earth and its magnetic dipole, and the SAA is the near-Earth region where the Earth's magnetic field is weakest.

    Position and shape
    The Van Allen radiation belts are symmetric about the Earth's magnetic axis, which is tilted with respect to the Earth's rotational axis by an angle of ~11 degrees. The intersection between the magnetic and rotation axes of the Earth is located ~500 kilometres (300 mi) more to the North, above the centre of the Earth. Because of this tilt and translation, the inner Van Allen belt is closest to the Earth's surface over the south Atlantic ocean where it dips down to 200km (124mi) altitude, and farthest from the Earth's surface over the north Pacific ocean.[2]


    A cross-sectional view of the Van Allen radiation belts, noting the point where the South Atlantic Anomaly occurs

    The highest intensity portion of the SAA drifts to the west at a speed of about 0.3 degrees per year, and is noticeable in the references listed below. The drift rate of the SAA is very close to the rotation differential between the Earth's core and its surface, estimated to be between 0.3 and 0.5 degrees per year.

    Current literature suggests that a slow weakening of the geomagnetic field is one of several causes for the changes in the borders of the SAA since its discovery. As the geomagnetic field continues to weaken, the inner Van Allen belt gets closer to the Earth, with a commensurate enlargement of the SAA at given altitudes.[citation needed]

    Effects
    The South Atlantic Anomaly is of great significance to astronomical satellites and other spacecraft that orbit the Earth at several hundred kilometers altitude; these orbits take satellites through the anomaly periodically, exposing them to several minutes of strong radiation, caused by the trapped protons in the inner Van Allen belt. The International Space Station, orbiting with an inclination of 51.6°, requires extra shielding to deal with this problem. The Hubble Space Telescope does not take observations while passing through the SAA.[5] Astronauts are also affected by this region which is said to be the cause of peculiar 'shooting stars' (phosphenes) seen in the visual field of astronauts.[6] Passing through the South Atlantic Anomaly is thought[7] to be the reason for the early failures of the Globalstar network's satellites.

    The PAMELA experiment, while passing through the SAA, detected antiproton levels that were orders of magnitude higher than those expected from normal particle decay. This suggests the Van Allen belt confines antiparticles produced by the interaction of the Earth's upper atmosphere with cosmic rays.[8]

    NASA has reported that modern laptops have crashed when the space shuttle flights passed through the anomaly.[9]
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    Most too often, this South Atlantic Anomaly is taken as meaning the Earth magnetic poles inversion is afoot... something which would need more evidence.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    too much too fast, we already feel the effects of small CME's changing our moods. we can handle small doses of rads, but this guy is talking about the atmosphere/magnetic field breaking down allowing all that radiation to come in at once. What if it is the magnetic field that keeps oxygen on earth ? the field goes down and our air drifts up and away. this will be our sixth ectinction .
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    If this is a misinformation or disinformation ploy on behalf of those in power, what are the motives behind such tactics? To test the public's reaction, or to divert our attention from something else?

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    Sali IMO has brought nothing to the table that isn't already known.
    We don't know when the magnetic pole shift would be strongest, we don't know how severe its affects would be this time, and we didn't know that extraterrestrials were telling us these specifics

    Now we have a claim of them telling us, providing information on the when and how severe.
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    Oh darn, does this mean we have to wait 2 more years? I was much more hoping for a 2012 event to start getting our planet back to its good health.
    Have you ever noticed that the dramatic events predicted keep getting pushed into the future?
    2012, 2013, 2016, the window is still progressively getting smaller, ie. we can only push it back so far, and then I think we will either have to "sh** or get off the pot"...
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