[HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

[Unified Serenity]

I think we have to examine all available information and use our discernment. If this Dr. Sal turns out to be Frank Vidal, it does not mean the earth is not headed for some changes or a geo magnetic pole shift. It just means we have an actor sending us the message. I do think his end message appeals to some and is intended to affect the thinking of those who would be scared by his message. He is pushing for ending the separation caused by country / flag and religions. I think we can have both flags and religions and respect one another as sacred beings following our own paths and not kill each other over it.

If we are headed for some hard earth changes, I'd still rather know and prepare physically and spiritually than pretend we are not.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by viking (here)
Hmmm not totally convinced Bill...some more info here... ?! apparently top response...I'll see if I can track him down on twitter, and ask him...

This guy is a hobbiest actor. His name is Frank Vidal. Here is his twitter page twitter(DOT COM)/filmscribe. Here are two youtube clips where he is acting /watch?v=V2DlOtBuYTQ and /watch?v=X_bhI88UyEc

I know -- I went through the videos frame by frame and took screenshots. Research takes work. Casual "I'm-no-expert" opinions are of almost no value.

If you'd like to contribute intelligently to this potentially important discussion, please do contact Frank Vidal. I would sincerely welcome that.

I would also appreciate Avalon researchers taking up the leads provided by Jean-Luc in his post here.

I'm not yet 100% convinced this is real. As I said earlier, I'm concerned with the 331 days, and the issue of the communication protocols. It's also a problem that there has not yet been any verification of his bona fides as an employee/ contractor for NASA or SARA. (But there, one would not have found any bona fides for Arthur Neumann (Henry Deacon), either. He showed us his credentials personally, but they have never been released online. He was a brilliant electronic engineer, but you would never find his classified project work on the net -- which is like the skin of an apple compared with the real depth of information out there which is not in the public domain.)

We have to go slowly and carefully here. What would be the greatest tragedy is if this warning was real, and we all dismissed it because of lazy mass internet opinion. I learned back in Serpo days that "reality" is defined on the internet by the "vote" of public opinion -- regardless of the truth. It was an important lesson to learn.

Think of your responsibility here. I'm going to say something very heavy. Hundreds of millions of people could die if we irresponsibly and prematurely trash a legitimate warning because we're all trying to be smart alecs.

If Dr Conti (and Enrico De Luca) are real, then they may be very discouraged by the skeptical response. They may respond by posting another video, and producing credentials. But equally, we may never hear from them again. Which would you prefer?

[Mutchie]

i have just watched the video again and he seems to have so much information which sounds totally credible, he talks of dates as if they are firmly planted in his mind as if he has really worked on all of this , im dying to know more hopefully he doesnt fade away.

[Carmody]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by applecrusher1992 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The issue of the 331 days is unanswered (as is the modality of the coding and decoding of complex, detailed information with an alien culture) -- but there's enough here to convince me that he believes absolutely everything he is saying.

It could take our message 331 days to reach them and only minutes for them to get back to us.

Yes, that's absolutely true. The ETs might be responding instantaneously.

http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-t...tances-1.11163

13 August 2012

Two teams of researchers have extended the reach of quantum teleportation to unprecedented lengths, roughly equivalent to the distance between New York City and Philadelphia. But don’t expect teleportation stations to replace airports or train terminals — the teleportation scheme shifts only the quantum state of a single photon. And although part of the transfer happens instantaneously, the steps required to read out the teleported quantum state ensure that no information can be communicated faster than the speed of light.

~~~~~~~~~~

(essentially, they have not figured out an elegant solution to their dilemma of getting to full FTL communication, is all)

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Very similar indeed, but a different guy. Look closely at the earlobe. (Besides, the birthmark/ mole on Dr Conti's left cheek is missing.)

Bill, you and I know you can fake a birth mark, scar, or mole:

How to fake a mole

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yMo5Mtohup0

[Peace of Mind]

hmmm, first it was the year 2000, then it was 2012…now it’s 2016? smh.

It seems these fear mongrels are addicted to the energy of the gullible and innocent. Anyway, if this was real and all we do is sit back and do nothing to prevent it…we will get what we deserve.

Peace

[gooty64]

US, if he is an actor, it would also mean that we have a liar sending us this message- as he states emphatically in the video that he is not an actor.

[frozen alchemy]

He taught me when I was young that ears are like fingerprints, and cannot be altered, even by plastic surgery.

Errr, no. Plastic surgeons work on birth defect and accident-damaged ears all the time. The operation to make ears lie flatter to the head in children is pretty common, as is repair to torn earlobes from earring accidents.

That said, yes, barring an attempt at hiding an identity, you can use earlobes as a point of identification. If this guy was trying to hide his identity, he could have just worn a hat and sunglasses.

On the other hand, each view on Youtube pays a bit of money now, right? So you make up a great scary story with a long enough time line out into the future, it goes viral and you make yourself a tidy buck on the ad-play and get a good laugh on top of it. This is just another one of the hundreds of scammers making money off 2012 and beyond.

And meanwhile, this thread will go on and on and on just like the Fake Drake one did.

A physicist with connections at the highest levels of academia and the government who doesn't have any social network accounts, not Facebook or Linked In???? And who can't figure out for himself where the 'upload' button is on Youtube, but CAN help decode alien communications? Please.

[Carmody]

Posted by araucaria (here)
For all I know, his credentials may be impeccable, but that wouldn't be enough to validate his message.

Born in Ara nova: = New Macaw. Interesting

"Macaws are small to large, often colourful New World parrots...."

Latin - āra - altar

newly served on the altar parrot? from the new world order?

Ara, genus, macaw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_%28genus%29

[Nickolai]

Hi,

Concerning the videos.
One can fake the mole, the ears ...whatever.
The guy in the original video has very nice sincere eyes. Though I can tell for myself.
The guy in the yellow robe is totally different with or without mole, ears and so on, look into his eyes. Either he is a great actor or a real maniac...lol Very evil eyes!

Did anyone think about the posibility that there could be many Sal Contis (plural...))) in Nasa?

And yes, Bill! I also trust that the mole is his because in opposite case that would be just vulgarily cheap effect...))

Nickolai

[SilentFeathers]

The mole is irrelevant to me but Bill has a point about the ear lobe. I also went through many frames and there are angles to where without some creative software enhancing/magnification stuff they look exactly the same to me, but looked different in certain frames too.

30 years ago I ran into a dude that looked just like me and actually had the same make and model of car I had, right down to the same color, it was quite freaky to say the least.....Sal and Vidal could easily be two different people. (But IMO I think they're the same person).

The article from NASA about the probes going in to the Van Allen belt is a tasty morsel in this investigation. Coincidence? perhaps.

Keep plugging away, it would in my opinion be better to prove this to be fake than real....being fried to death by radiation doesn't sound too appealing to me.

[13th Warrior]

Posted by gooty64 (here)
US, if he is an actor, it would also mean that we have a liar sending us this message- as he states emphatically in the video that he is not an actor.

Have you seen "The Blair Witch Project"?

[Christine]

Has anyone else noticed his hands? They caught my attention. The size and shape of his fingers in both videos is very similar. I took a couple of screenshots. I don't think they are conclusive, but then maybe there is a hand analysis specialist on the forum. Also on reviewing the videos again I noticed there are shots of his finger nails, worth checking out.





I agree with Bill that we need to use all of our powers of discernment here. Neither outright dismissal or outright acceptance. What I feel, intuit and project are based on my own particular set of criteria - experiences and beliefs. Here we have the opportunity to come together as a community and use our combined efforts to dig out the truth on this.

For the record, IMHO - I do not find or need to hear this man Dr. Sal or know that Frank Vidal is an actor to confirm what I already know or believe. If he is telling the truth then it only helps point toward a possible timeline, if he is lying it doesn't change things one bit. I still must do the work I am called to do.

If I take this as a detective game then it could be quite fun. And we may all learn something in the process.

Christine

[Tony]

The point is, say if this were true...what on earth can anyone do about it?
How are we going to save millions of people?
What's the big plan?

To keep worrying about every prediction just is not healthy, it's going to wear you down.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

[MorningSong]

The actor "Vidal" and "Dr. Sal" look like the same person to me... but that is only my opinion.... If "Dr. Sal" is a false prophet, I hope he gets his comings up!

The possibility of the Van Allen Belt collapsing is a more intriguing matter to me.

I found this article written by Patric Geryl, author of "The Orion Prophecy" in which he mentions this possible event (I addd the bold print):

Will a huge disaster wipe out all humanity in 2012.

The ultimate catastrophe.

One man who believes that we shall very shortly see the full horrors of a polar reversal, and a disaster that will make even the South East Asian catastrophe insignificant by comparison is author Patrick Geryl. In a feature written specially for this site, he tells of the nightmare vision that he believes will befall this planet in 2012, when by his estimate billions may die.

Below is his account and vision of how this awesome catastrophe will occur.

The World Cataclysm in 2012

In my book, The Orion Prophecy, I came to the staggering conclusion that the earth will be subjected to a huge disaster. The cause: the magnetic field of the earth will reverse in an instant, resulting in catastrophic consequences for humanity. Immense earthquakes will flatten all buildings on earth; while continents will shift thousands of kilometres and an all-demolishing tidal wave will leave billions of dead people behind. In my book I scientifically reveal the millennia-old codes of the Maya and the Old Egyptians, which refer to this super-disaster.

Staggering conclusions

The Dresden Codex of the Maya, for instance, contains the secrets of the sunspot cycle. The conclusions that follow are even more staggering. At a certain moment, when the sun's magnetism reaches a crucial point, the sun's surface will be subjected to immense storms. Enormous electro-magnetic forces will then be liberated - with unknown strength - from the interior of the sun. Giant sun-flames will send a gigantic wave of particles to the earth.


What Will Happen?


The particles that are spewed out will set the earth's atmosphere "in flames" and have a real destructive effect on the Van Allen belts. Because of the continuous stream of electromagnetism, the magnetic field of the earth will get overcharged. Trillions of particles will reach the poles. Unknown electric forces will be generated, a nightmare for everybody involved.

Short circuit of the electromagnetic field.

When the poles are filled with auroras from the falling particles, the inevitable will happen: the earth's inner electromagnetic field will get overcharged and will crash. A mega short-circuit with super lethal effects. The planet's entire atmosphere, without magnetic protection, will be bombarded by falling particles.

The earth’s magnetic field functions to protect us by directing the electromagnetic particles to the poles, but this would become impossible.


Polar Reversal and Pole Shift

The iron core of the earth is magnetic. Because of the switching of the magnetic core, the earth will start to rotate in the other direction! Because of this, the outer earth’s crust will break off! In other words the outer layer will be "floating." It will be on the loose, no longer attached to its "master." If you are on the planet at that moment, it will tilt some thousands of miles in a couple of hours. Looking up in the sky it will seem as if "the sky is coming down," as it is described in the old scriptures! Giant quakes will occur. Earth plates will be moving, mountains will be rising where first there was nothing, land masses will break open and collapse, mountains collapse, land will sink into the ocean, volcanoes erupt in many places. In short, the most terrible nightmare cannot be terrible enough to describe this world's destruction.


They Calculated it!


Now you can ask me: are you sure of what you are saying? My answer: very sure, because the Atlanteans and their descendants the Maya and Old Egyptians knew a theory about the magnetic fields of the sun that even modern astronomers don’t know anything of! With this theory they were able to predict the worldwide flood of 9792 BC and the coming one in 2012! Here, I’m asking for your comprehension. I want you to understand that they CALCULATED the end of Atlantis - now buried under the South Pole. Again, they CALCULATED an even more violent end for us. That there is a link between 2012 and 9792 BC is undeniable (See my book The Orion Prophecy). If we keep ignoring these findings
- we will all die. All alarm bells should be ringing around the world!

Above account was written specially for this site by author Patrick Geryl.

http://www.nasca.org.uk/Asian_disaster/2012/2012.html


I do not necessarily endorse Geryls' presentations nor do I know his credentials, and I have not been a "fan" of his sad dooms day scenario. Bill, I know you and Kerry interviewed him and he also spoke at a public event with you guys. Could the info from "Dr. Sal" be based on Geryls' theory, obviously slipping the D-day to 2016?

[13th Warrior]

The video is BS and the guy is an actor.

More on the information he provides:

He seems to be up on the latest conspiracy talk; which is out of line with someone supposedly immersed in science.

He never once mentions anything about the content of the message; only NASA perfect interpretation of said message.

He is claiming that the only thing from keep in the vanallen belt from descending upon the Earth is the Earth's magnetic field.

He claims that the pole reversal is going to be uncharacteristically quick; ;which mean the magnetic field will be restored and renewed very quickly....so, how long will the alleged radiation take to descend upon the Earth?

I still see no evidence that the Earths magnetic field is anywhere near the point of magnetic reversal. We should be seeing much more aurora then we are, especially since we are in the middle of a solar maximum.

If we start seeing day time aurora; then i would start to worry.

[freespirit]

All these dire warnings seem to revolve around two issues.
The Sun and our magnetic pole.We know the suns going too flare big time, we just don't know when.Same goes for the pole.
I'm wondering if it's more like a horse race.The CME in first place. closely followed by the magnetic pole.

Shouldn't we be thinking more in terms of probability than time.

google the various threats see what's the highest.

[ED209]

I work with actors in a critical capacity everyday. A lot of them have credible day jobs that are not performance related and professional stage names that differ from their actual names. It is possible that Sal Conti could have a stage name. I don't believe the doomsday message from this guy comes from aliens, but objectively there is no reason why a mathematician can't have a drama hobby.

But still, I don't think an actual scientist would fill his message with cryptic conspiracy stuff because the message that a radiation belt might fry us all would be enough. He does not talk about his scientific methods very much. He also seems to employ scary phrases as a dramatic device.

The other thing that we need to keep in mind is that we are all spending (myself included) a lot of time worrying about potential otherworldly threats to our planet, meanwhile there are actual threats to our existence that are real and happening right now! Global warming, pollution, resource depletion, right?

Or what if NASA is talking to aliens, but the aliens are just big liars? Why would we assume that they are more ethical than us? Or more intelligent than us? We might not be at the bottom of the universal barrel intelligence wise. Also, we know that technological advancement does not equate with ethical concern because as we have become more advanced, we have not become more ethical.

[freespirit]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Ok, I did a few print screens. I think it's helpful to pull up the Dr. Sal video and one of the two Frank Vidal acting videos and listen to the voice. Here are the screen shots I took of Frank Vidal and "Dr. Sal".

It's the same person ! spread the word.tag tag

Thanks Unified

[Sierra]

Posted by Christine (here)
Has anyone else noticed his hands? They caught my attention. The size and shape of his fingers in both videos is very similar. I took a couple of screenshots. I don't think they are conclusive, but then maybe there is a hand analysis specialist on the forum. Also on reviewing the videos again I noticed there are shots of his finger nails, worth checking out.





I agree with Bill that we need to use all of our powers of discernment here. Neither outright dismissal or outright acceptance. What I feel, intuit and project are based on my own particular set of criteria - experiences and beliefs. Here we have the opportunity to come together as a community and use our combined efforts to dig out the truth on this.

For the record, IMHO - I do not find or need to hear this man Dr. Sal or know that Frank Vidal is an actor to confirm what I already know or believe. If he is telling the truth then it only helps point toward a possible timeline, if he is lying it doesn't change things one bit. I still must do the work I am called to do.

If I take this as a detective game then it could be quite fun. And we may all learn something in the process.

Christine

I used to do palmistry, and the hands are *very* different, both in phalange length and in lines. Note the height of the pads under the fingers. Note the double pad under the thumbs of one set of hands.

I strongly doubt the actor and the scientist are the same person.

[Maunagarjana]

Just message him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/filmscribe

From the picture on there, it looks like the same guy to me: