[HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

[araucaria]

Posted by Operator (here)
So he's an actor ... case closed ?

I don't think so. What do you do if you can't communicate to the public directly ? Exactly, you use stand-ins.
It's an old custom. Ages ago people invented fables to circumvent ending up with their heads on the chopping block.

The appropriate method for using a standin, if you are serious, is to give power of attorney to someone and for that someone to acknowledge the fact with a pp. (per procurationem) on a letter for example. Otherwise, you are dealing with a forgery.

Power of attorney is delegated by someone who has a power to someone who does not. A forger steals that power by usurping the principal's identity.

In this particular instance, the actor said "I am not an actor". He could have said "i am speaking on behalf of x, who needs to remain anonymous, and who has asked (or for that matter, has forbidden) me to say this". He is either engaging in fiction disguised as fact or committing the video equivalent of a forgery.

A forgery will usually, but not always, be for a motive as dishonest as the method. If it is honest, it will probably be because there was no other way.

[DevilPigeon]

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How about just closing it....?

[freespirit]

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I feel we should have a sense of responsibility here...we can't expect everyone to be stable and mature enough to deal with some of the sensationalism out there.[/QUOTE]

no no non no

With all due respect.My cousin 'topped him self' because his girl friend left him.
She left him because he was a waster Unable do deal with life !


let's move forward

you want dark, turn the light off !

[Operator]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Just for reference and to refresh my memory:

From Wikipedia

Recent conjectures

The field has attracted pseudoscientific authors offering a variety of evidence, including psychic readings.

In the 1970s and 1980s a series of books not intended as fiction by former Washington newspaper reporter Ruth Shick Montgomery elaborates on Edgar Cayce readings.[15]

In 1997 Richard W. Noone published 5/5/2000, ICE: The Ultimate Disaster. This book argued that a cataclysmic shift of the Earth's ice cap covering Antarctica caused by a planetary alignment and solar storms, would lead to crustal displacement on May 5, 2000.[16]

In 1998 retired civil engineer James G. Bowles proposed in Atlantis Rising magazine a mechanism by which a polar shift could occur. He named this Rotational-Bending, or the RB-effect. He hypothesized that combined gravitational effects of the Sun and the Moon pulled at the Earth's crust at an oblique angle. This force steadily wore away at the underpinnings that linked the crust to the inner mantle. This generates a plastic zone that allows the crust to rotate with respect to the lower layers. Centrifugal forces will act on the mass of ice at the poles, causing them to move to the equator.[17]

Books on this subject have been published by William Hutton, including the 1996 book Coming Earth Changes: Causes and Consequences of the Approaching Pole Shift (ISBN 0876043619), which compared geologic records with the psychic readings of Edgar Cayce and predicted catastrophic climate changes before the end of 2001. In 2004 Hutton and co-author Jonathan Eagle published Earth's Catastrophic Past and Future: A Scientific Analysis of Information Channeled by Edgar Cayce (ISBN 1-58112-517-8), which summarizes possible mechanisms and the timing of a future pole shift.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis

Nova aired a program on PBS in 2003:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/

Well maybe it's not all that complex ... here's an experiment.

Place a bucket full of water on the backseat of your car, right behind the driver seat. Then speed it up on the highway on
the fastest lane and then put the gear in reverse (there is a good reason why you're prevented from doing that !).
Anyway you can imagine what happens ... you will get the water in the back of your neck (and the bucket if you didn't fasten it).
There will be devastation under the hood too ... the engine and gearbox are not made for these forces.

Now we are getting more and more familiar with the theory that the universe is electrical of nature, right ?
Here's my theory:

Why isn't the moon spinning around it's axes ? .... it's hollow it doesn't have a core.
Most bodies in space spin because there is a magnetic core of some sort that because of the movement through space
it is driven like an electric motor (related right hand rule).



The advantage of an electrical car is that if you like to decelerate on the highway you can put the energy back into
the batteries because now all of a sudden your motor becomes a dynamo.

Similarly the earth is generating its own magnetic field while spinning.

So what would happen if earth (or the whole solar system) passes through a different part of space where fields are reversed ?
And the quicker the reversal the more you will experience deceleration and acceleration in the other direction.
Sloshing oceans will be the result. Increased radiation and coastal events is exactly what remote viewers saw as result happening sometime before june 2013.

Wouldn't that be a good reason for people in the know to try to leave earth before then ?

Well I am not an astro physicist (or other scientific based scholar) but my basic knowledge makes me connect those dots.
Of course there will be experts telling that my theory is not completely right ... but sometime raising the right questions opens up the door.

[13th Warrior]

@ Operator,

Are you suggesting that the magnetic pole reversal is going to involve the stopping of the Earth rotation and then restarting in the opposite direction?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ulli (here)
How about just adding quotation marks?

Ok - that seemed like a good idea.

I just changed the thread title from:

Warning from NASA Scientist stating Aliens warn of massive threat coming to Earth

to

Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

[Tarka the Duck]

Paul said:

If there was a well publicized news story of someone committing suicide in despair after viewing such an "end of the world as we know it" video as this one was, and if that was followed by a clamoring for changes in the law to make posting such videos a criminal offense, then ...

I'd figure it was a psyops with the intention of shutting down legitimate whistle blowers.

freespirit said

no no non no

With all due respect.My cousin 'topped him self' because his girl friend left him.
She left him because he was a waster Unable do deal with life !


let's move forward

you want dark, turn the light off !

Unfortunately, you have both twisted my words. I made no mention of any ban on such material.

I spoke of the importance of using investigation and critical thinking when looking at material that is being presented in order to reduce the worry factor that can arise from fear mongering and sensationalism.

Do you disagree with that? I suppose you could say that it's an ethical question of rights and responsibilities.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
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How about just closing it....?

Nah - we don't usually close threads unless continuing posts to them are causing harm.

This thread might actually be healthier now than it was originally .

[Operator]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
@ Operator,

Are you suggesting that the magnetic pole reversal is going to involve the stopping of the Earth rotation and then restarting in the opposite direction?

- There are prophecies telling that the sun will rise in the west ...
- Three days of darkness ?
- Mankind invented (non-existing) time. One earth rotation = 24 hours ... so end-of-time =
- Sun appears too early in the wrong places (Inuit ekimo's)
- Time wave zero software indicating decline in novelty ...

No I am not suggesting it will happen ... the points listed above inspired me to think about how it could happen.

B.t.w. we don't need a full stop. The reason why you are able to ride a bicycle is that you cannot easily change the axis of a wheel
while it is spinning. The slower you ride the bike the more difficult it is to stay upright. Slowing down the earth's rotation enables potential
external forces to change the axis.

I think we see data points in our environment that somehow confirm problems in coastal areas. Again, I am just looking for scenarios that
could explain the things we see/hear.

[bogeyman]

The only individual who can give clarity to these claims is the Dr himself. Only he can prove his identify, and provide enough answers to specific questions to resolve the doubts which are likely to occur, as a result of his You Tube video.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
The only individual who can give clarity to these claims is the Dr himself. Only he can prove his identify, and provide enough answers to specific questions to resolve the doubts which are likely to occur, as a result of his You Tube video.

On Bill's thread you can find the latest on this actor and his claims, i guess it will be updated a lot.

regards 665

[161803398]

I think when people are exposed to a great deal of television or movies they can lose a sense of how people who aren't actors sound when they talk. This might even be exacerbated by additional exposure to people who, although they aren't actors, have been influenced by movies or television. Even very self-conscious people can sound quite phoney.

I remember the first time I heard Meryl Streep speak in a movie (Deer Hunter) I was stunned because she sounded like a real person and I'd never heard that in a movie before. Not many actors can do that and certainly not the guy in this video. Nobody talks like this unless they are reading from a script. His eye movements were extremely odd as well. He looks a lot more like a cab driver than a scientist.

I think a way to get the hang of identifying people who are acting might be to start going to plays. There's nothing ever been said in a play that sounds even remotely like real life but we suspend our disbelief in order to enjoy the play.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well maybe he just wanted people worried so they grind their teeth at night and need a dentist...

about like owning a tire company and dumping nails in the road...

[Nanoo Nanoo]

May i be honest here. And i know i may offend some but understand its not my intention.

Why do we humans spend so much time analysing the questions when the answers are whats needed?

Lets look at this logically as opposed to being emotionally attached to who is right or wrong. After some 22 pages of debate we should be looking at pro active solutions to " possible " things we may face.

So lets dispence with heresay and lets get into facts.

We may be facing some sort of earth event. Besides food and water, what would be needed to help get through such an event?

Fact, people in the know with the influence have built vast underground vaults. With tons of stored food and water.

Fact, they wouldnt do this unless they thought it may come in handy. This is something we should be looking at closely as a group project in housing.

Surely there are people in the alternative community with some connections or ownership in the building and development game thats savvy enough to start to offer housing under ground? , this makes a lot of sense.

I aksed a question recently on one of my threads.

Why have we not seen evidense of aliens living on other planets? Answer, because they all live under ground.

Now if aliens are advanced and have more experience to life than we do why dont we learn from them and start to build underground.

This would save from most radiational and flooding problems. The other thing is if they cant see you from the air you are less likely to be found.

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[araucaria]

Why not live underground?

a) I wanna see the light!

[ulli]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
well maybe he just wanted people worried so they grind their teeth at night and need a dentist...

about like owning a tire company and dumping nails in the road...

Yeah, and my MacBook slowing down all of a sudden, just as those "Slow Mac" ads began to pop up

[ulli]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)

We may be facing some sort of earth event. Besides food and water, what would be needed to help get through such an event?
Fact, people in the know with the influence have built vast underground vaults. With tons of stored food and water.



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Is anybody in the "know" ...ever?

If mind over matter works, then an asteroid can be tweaked to change course.
One millimeter shift and it will miss the earth by half a million miles.
I think the elite simply foresaw their own demise.
Their 15,000 year investment has been frittered away.
Their psychics are wrong. Their dreams are now nightmares.
Their underground dumbs will become their graves.
People are waking up, nothing can stop it.
In a few more years their disinformation campaigns won't work either,
as each new generation will be more intuitive than the last.
While some things are changing for the worse, other things are changing for the better.
There is evidence for that, too.

[araucaria]

you tell 'em Ulli.

that free energy is breaking loose all by itself

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by araucaria (here)
Why not live underground?

a) I wanna see the light!

And you shall :-) with a flshlight

So where else are the minds to lead us?

We want to be lead to new grounds, but the truth is who? How? Is there discussion on alternate leaders? People who could run things if we ever take back control.

It seems to me this is pertinent debate. But lets face it as a race we are quite unruly, and to lead us would be some task.

Being spiritual? Is that the answer? Being diplomatic and factual?

I think with our present mind set, if there ever was a good leader amongst us, they would be ignored.

People dont enjoy solutions, they enjoy endless, time wasting debate.

[araucaria]

@nanoo nanoo

a flashlight?! Think big, man: we have a sun, it ain't broke, get out and get some vitamin D

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...-sphere-nature

alternate leaders?! Think small, man: do your own leading, if anyone wants to follow, they will. Just do it