Here and Now...What's Happening?

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
What does one say on page 444 of this thread?

When I was a cub scout, my "pack" number was 444.

By birthday was 4/4/54 (ten years late?)

The zipcode I grew up in starts with 44, as did my phone number.

My social security number has a 444 sequence in it

...all of this came to mind one day, about thirty-five years ago, when a stranger I had never met approached me and said that he was directed to speak to me. He said that if he was accurate, that the number "44" would already be significant in my life. According to him, there were 44 beings - in spirit form - that were assembled to help the study group. The group, "Fellowship of Friends" was studying the work of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and others, and wondered if I would be interested to attend meetings. I only attended one (I had made up my mind that I refused to pay for any philosophical/spiritual material, and they wanted money), but afterwords I did read some of the writings of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky.)

So there. hahahahhaa Here and Now the thread page 444 triggered this memory for me!

Dennis

“Master Numbers: Cycles of Divine Order,” by: Faith Javane

pgs. 101-102 for Master Number 44

“...Behavior must include forgiveness and practicing the Golden Rule at all times. Our ordinary will is raised to a more powerful will if the source of fait is opened within us. We realize we are working under a higher authority, and as this happens, our entire lives change, as do concepts of value. We ask ourself: “What really is of value?” This kind of knowledge must be understood: we must realize that it is a change of will, and also a change of what we really love enough to “lose our lives” for. This the type of living that prepares us for

ADEPTSHIP
1,4,5,7,2,1,8,9,7 = 44

The double 4 gives reason as the directing link to higher wisdom, and offers the potential for synthesizing the mundane and the spiritual for best results in action and leadership. Master number 44 individuals are resourceful and have complete strength and mental dominion over their activities. They understand financial values, but would work more toward the attainment of spiritual progress. The number 44 is a symbol that demands great self-control and discipline, one which brings with it a heavy burden and the possibility of becoming a world influence through conforming to the immutable laws of the Cosmic Order.

A growing consciousness is the purpose of human life, and the highest consciousness is the goal of human life. This growth goes forward and upward, spiral by spiral, form us as mere creatures to fully conscious Christed beings. Mast number 44 people may attain this level of wholeness by controlled energy, thus enhancing their vitality and in turn activating the nerve centers in the brain. The creative energy retained within body enables these people to attain mastery and to become illuminates. The Divine creative energy may be used either physically, mundanely, or for the highest creative ideal of Godliness....”

“Numerology and the Divine Triangle,” by: Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker - pg. 20

Life Lesson/birthdate
4+4+1954 = 8+19=27/9

9 - “You should be the universal lover of humanity, patient, kind and understanding. You are at the peak of life’s expression, and must turn and show others the way. You seen to receive wisdom from above; thus you know that the true way of happiness is in service to others. You are the marrying type, strong in passion and compassion. You easily acquire money or wealth, and know how to preserve it. You are never petty but deal in broad concepts and can attain success in the face of difficulties. You are here to show others the way, through your breadth of thinking. You can choose from many professions; education and medicine are the most usual. You may become an orator, writer or lecturer with equal ease. Communication, foreign service, statesmanship and leadership positions are easily within your capacity.

[ulli]

another reason to go up the mountain, and come back down again. Numbers.




P.S. I could have sworn Playdo posted that mouse killer video before, on this thread....
am I going nuts? I don't have time for figuring deja vus.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by ulli (here)
Well, Dennis, I went back to page 444 and found it excellent.

I forgot to say I have my Avalon forum software set to display 40 posts per page, so "your mileage may vary."

I can't remember what the default setting is for the number of posts on a page. What page number is this to you?

Dennis

[PurpleLama]

Posted by ulli (here)
another reason to go up the mountain, and come back down again. Numbers.




P.S. I could have sworn Playdo posted that mouse killer video before, on this thread....
am I going nuts? I don't have time for figuring deja vus.

Nope, not nuts, except it was me who posted the video.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I forgot to say I have my Avalon forum software set to display 40 posts per page, so "your mileage may vary."

I can't remember what the default setting is for the number of posts on a page. What page number is this to you?

This is page 889 for me. I'm at 20 posts per page; not sure if that's the default, but might be.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I forgot to say I have my Avalon forum software set to display 40 posts per page, so "your mileage may vary."

I can't remember what the default setting is for the number of posts on a page. What page number is this to you?

This is page 889 for me. I'm at 20 posts per page; not sure if that's the default, but might be.

20 is the default.

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this into :cheers: ?

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
What does one say on page 444 of this thread?

When I was a cub scout, my "pack" number was 444.

By birthday was 4/4/54 (ten years late?)

The zipcode I grew up in starts with 44, as did my phone number.

My social security number has a 444 sequence in it

...all of this came to mind one day, about thirty-five years ago, when a stranger I had never met approached me and said that he was directed to speak to me. He said that if he was accurate, that the number "44" would already be significant in my life. According to him, there were 44 beings - in spirit form - that were assembled to help the study group. The group, "Fellowship of Friends" was studying the work of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and others, and wondered if I would be interested to attend meetings. I only attended one (I had made up my mind that I refused to pay for any philosophical/spiritual material, and they wanted money), but afterwords I did read some of the writings of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky.)

So there. hahahahhaa Here and Now the thread page 444 triggered this memory for me!

Dennis

“Master Numbers: Cycles of Divine Order,” by: Faith Javane

pgs. 101-102 for Master Number 44

“...Behavior must include forgiveness and practicing the Golden Rule at all times. Our ordinary will is raised to a more powerful will if the source of fait is opened within us. We realize we are working under a higher authority, and as this happens, our entire lives change, as do concepts of value. We ask ourself: “What really is of value?” This kind of knowledge must be understood: we must realize that it is a change of will, and also a change of what we really love enough to “lose our lives” for. This the type of living that prepares us for

ADEPTSHIP
1,4,5,7,2,1,8,9,7 = 44

The double 4 gives reason as the directing link to higher wisdom, and offers the potential for synthesizing the mundane and the spiritual for best results in action and leadership. Master number 44 individuals are resourceful and have complete strength and mental dominion over their activities. They understand financial values, but would work more toward the attainment of spiritual progress. The number 44 is a symbol that demands great self-control and discipline, one which brings with it a heavy burden and the possibility of becoming a world influence through conforming to the immutable laws of the Cosmic Order.

A growing consciousness is the purpose of human life, and the highest consciousness is the goal of human life. This growth goes forward and upward, spiral by spiral, form us as mere creatures to fully conscious Christed beings. Mast number 44 people may attain this level of wholeness by controlled energy, thus enhancing their vitality and in turn activating the nerve centers in the brain. The creative energy retained within body enables these people to attain mastery and to become illuminates. The Divine creative energy may be used either physically, mundanely, or for the highest creative ideal of Godliness....”

“Numerology and the Divine Triangle,” by: Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker - pg. 20

Life Lesson/birthdate
4+4+1954 = 8+19=27/9

9 - “You should be the universal lover of humanity, patient, kind and understanding. You are at the peak of life’s expression, and must turn and show others the way. You seen to receive wisdom from above; thus you know that the true way of happiness is in service to others. You are the marrying type, strong in passion and compassion. You easily acquire money or wealth, and know how to preserve it. You are never petty but deal in broad concepts and can attain success in the face of difficulties. You are here to show others the way, through your breadth of thinking. You can choose from many professions; education and medicine are the most usual. You may become an orator, writer or lecturer with equal ease. Communication, foreign service, statesmanship and leadership positions are easily within your capacity.

Wow, Paula, that's a lot to aspire to. Whew!

OK, now what do I do on the second day?

hehehehehhehehheheheheheh har har har

:~} <-----(impish grin)

Dennis

[another bob]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I tried to cut my finger off a little while ago, removing the one of the blades on the saw.

Yes, as usual in these days of synchronicity, I was just sawing too. I had to take out a big over-grown Fotinia that was threatening to root into my septic tank.

Still got all 10 digits, best of luck on yours!

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Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Thanks Bob, for making me search for the 5 ranks.

Good stuff, huh!

Btw, love your new avatar!

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Posted by Carmody (here)
Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Absolutely right, and Thanks for noting it -- let's hope more and more recognize that!

[Mark]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Self explains self. Being 'is', and so on. Thus the emotions and actions required end up being 'precisely so' for the situation at hand.

The juxtaposition of knowing and not knowing. The surety and the fear. A sense of loss and a sense of being.

And it all mixes up in your tum-tum-tummy.

LOL

yeh ... y'all explain it all so well there is left little to say. but i like not having to explain sometimes and it's beyond amazing to be in such company.

Ulli, not cheez whizzzzzzz, but pizzzaaaaaaaa! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Posted by another bob (here)
Good stuff, huh!

Btw, love your new avatar!

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Posted by Carmody (here)
[Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

Good stuff alright ... it's nice to be able to see what the traditions of the ages have to say about this state of existence. I don't consider myself a Buddhist even though I find that it best expresses my experiences thus far along the road in an experiential manner and as a legacy going back thousands of years ... regarding the idea of enlightenment and technology, the idea reminds me uncomfortably of Jacques Fresco and his Venus Project and his society run by Scientists/Technocrats ... there are other ideas about what enlightenment is and how to achieve it out there, including some that are downright scary and twisted in the things people do to manifest that supposed state of being ... anybody can say it ... to institutionalize it ... might not have the best results, given "human nature" ...

Yeh thanks, me and the boy, just did a quick photoshop filter thing ...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this into :cheers: ?

Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer

Done .

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Posted by Carmody (here)
All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Methinks that's happened before.......

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
What does one say on page 444 And that number thing, Dennis, no one has it as much as I, although my numbers are not 444.
They are a variation of 17, 9, 19. These three numbers appear on forms, telefone numbers, car numbers,
Anywhere where spirit wants to send me signals. Not to forget the constant barrage of 11:11, 1:11, 2:22, 7:11, 9:11, 9:17, 7:19 on my clocks.
Been like this since I had my first awakening in 1977.
Then got into Gurdjieff and Ouspensky....so now that you shared your number thingy I'm having a guess that Gurdjieff's soul group is behind all the synchronicities.
Plus he himself also mentioned them quite often. Just like those Jmes Redfield books.
Interesting...hmmm....

Posted by Nora (here)
me too Ulli..... 11:11 has been occurring so often and variants...8:11....etc... or 111, 222, 444 and now seeing 12:12's..... Late at night glow in dark 11:11's sometimes make me jump...LOL

Love
Nora

"Master Numbers: Cycles of Divine Order," by Faith Javane
"Numerology and The Divine Triangle," by Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker

I believe that we are all in the process of becoming the Master Number 11.

Master Number Eleven, pgs. 82-83 & 84

“Master numbers accentuate the meanings of the single digits, and for that reason they are considered to be the most powerful vibrations. They symbolize the expansion of consciousness through a series of steps or illuminations as growth takes place, until the ultimate of Christ Consciousness is attained...”

“When the forces of Eleven become fully operative in people, they have the power to change their environments, to create new conditions, to build new bodies and new lives, all in harmony with the Divine Image in whose likeness they were fashioned in the beginning. Ministers, reformers, and charity workers come under this vibration, as do teachers, speakers, writers, promoters, and leaders, in public service.

If these individual use their master numbers to glorify themselves, however, they will experience loss and unhappiness. The Eleven is a very difficult vibration to handle; therefore, these people must be eternally watchful of their conduct. The rewards for fine performance are great, however, “the ends are well worth the means.” The Great Work is the transmutation of mater into spirit. Then the spirit behind and within matter will be truly activated. Infinite consciousness remains constant wherever it manifests.

Eleven combines the learner, number 1 (conscious mind) beside the number 1 of higher consciousness. These people think of themselves as individuals, as ‘1s’ who have learned independence, leadership, and the qualities of aggressiveness necessary to cope with the world. Now, as 11s, or double 1s, they find the I AM beside them. Perhaps it is here that we learn of “I AM THAT I AM.”

We begin to realize that in an 11 incarnation we will be tested as to how well we can make our lives express more oneness with our Creator. “God, as first cause, said, Let there be Light, and there was Light.” (Genesis 1:3)

We should be inspired to “go, and do likewise,” to try to create more LIght in the world that we inhabit as physical beings. “The things I do, ye may do also.” (John 14:12)

The qualities of unity and universality become manifest in developing 11 individuals. They can no longer remain apart, but must give of their Light to the world. An Eleven develops soul powers through graciously and lovingly giving selfless service wherever it is needed....”

“...The number 11 stands for the self and the Christ-Self, as a polarity within as One, though embodied in the flesh. A new birth has occurred in our hearts as a ‘seed’ of immortality; we envision a brighter horizon...”

[dan33]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
......just cuz' I have to make a post on page 888.

Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
Thanks Bob! It was most refreshing to be a recluse from the interwebs. But I had to come back down from the mountain.....

Isn't that always the problem?

In this rank, the bodhisattva of indomitable spirit turns the Dharma-wheel of the non-duality of brightness and darkness. He stands in the midst of the filth of the world, "his head covered with dust and his face streaked with dirt." He moves through the confusion of sound and sensual pleasure, buffeted this way and buffeted that. He is like the fire-blooming lotus, that, on encountering the flames, becomes still brighter in color and purer in fragrance". He enters the market place with empty hands," yet others receive benefit from him. This is what is called to be on the road, yet not to have left the house; to have left the house, yet not to be on the road." Is he an ordinary man? Is he a sage? The evil ones and the heretics cannot discern him. Even the buddhas and the patriarchs cannot lay their hands upon him. Were anyone to try to indicate his mind, [it would be no more there than] the horns of a rabbit or the hairs of a tortoise that have gone beyond the farthest mountain.

Still, he must not consider this state to be his final resting-place. Therefore it is said, "Such a man has in and of himself a heaven-soaring spirit." What must he do in the end? He must know that there is one more rank, the rank of " Unity Attained."

Unity Attained:

Who dares to equal him
Who falls into neither being nor non-being!
All men want to leave
The current of ordinary life,
But he, after all, comes back
To sit among the coals and ashes.

The Master's verse-comment says:

How many times has Tokuun, the idle old gimlet,
Not come down from the Marvelous Peak!
He hires foolish wise men to bring snow,
And he and they together fill up the well.

The student who wishes to pass through Tozan's rank of "Unity Attained" should first study this verse.

Yes, the moment, the life, the motion of the Juxtaposition..and the bridge.

Without ...it there would be no path.

I've said before that I seem to be an enlightenment junkie. I'm aware of the monkey see, monkey do effect. So I run though the revolving door of enlightenment, from misery to elevation, like so many up and downs on an amusement park ride.

Hounds of Love is a TOP Long Play.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw

---------------------------------

Welcome Playdo!!!

[ulli]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I tried to cut my finger off a little while ago, removing the one of the blades on the saw.

Yes, as usual in these days of synchronicity, I was just sawing too. I had to take out a big over-grown Fotinia that was threatening to root into my septic tank.

Still got all 10 digits, best of luck on yours!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Thanks Bob, for making me search for the 5 ranks.

Good stuff, huh!

Btw, love your new avatar!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Posted by Carmody (here)
Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Absolutely right, and Thanks for noting it -- let's hope more and more recognize that!

I disagree.
Technology breaks down all the time...
the only solution then is to push your inner lightbulb switch...
and voila!
People discover their inner genius.
The next thing is the biggest Aha! ever.
This happens all the time. In the eighties I hardly knew anyone who was enlightened.
Now I meet lots of really enlightened folks, all the time. Astonishing, the number.

Technology began when they made the first tools...
No, wait...when they speeded up travel, after the horse....
No, wait...when they made the first calculator....

[Eram]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Thus our entire overall global situation, as it is and how it sits, is, for the larger part of any potential outcomes an unstoppable forced move.

This..as a force...against humanity's unwillingness (immovable mass) to let go of the animal parts of duality existence.

Die (physically).... or ... change.

Those are the real choices and options that are in front of humanity at this time.

Realizing this, thus becomes a critical point in the individual and the collective sense.

Why would people need to use technology when we can achieve all the same without technology?
The use of technology only reduces our ability to do the same thing internally.

Look at GPS in our cars... more and more people have no idea where they are when driving around. Or calculators... whenever theu make their entrance in the classroom, children rapidly loose their ability to do the maths in their heads.

How would our world look like when we live our lives without technology and we are all enlightened?
Wouldn't that be paradise?

[another bob]

Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

~Albert Einstein


Without wisdom, that is . . .

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this into :cheers: ?

Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer

Done .

Dearest Paul,

"Weak moment" my a$$.

You are a very kind, cuddly

............Going, going, gone..........................................

[RunningDeer]

Welcome back, Playdo

[ulli]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Thus our entire overall global situation, as it is and how it sits, is, for the larger part of any potential outcomes an unstoppable forced move.

This..as a force...against humanity's unwillingness (immovable mass) to let go of the animal parts of duality existence.

Die (physically).... or ... change.

Those are the real choices and options that are in front of humanity at this time.

Realizing this, thus becomes a critical point in the individual and the collective sense.

Why would people need to use technology when we can achieve all the same without technology?
The use of technology only reduces our ability to do the same thing internally.

Look at GPS in our cars... more and more people have no idea where they are when driving around. Or calculators... whenever theu make their entrance in the classroom, children rapidly loose their ability to do the maths in their heads.

How would our world look like when we live our lives without technology and we are all enlightened?
Wouldn't that be paradise?

Challenge time. Show me how you would make the first step...
leave technology behind and leave Europe and come to Central America
and live in the wilderness with 200 varieties of ants and spiders the way I have chosen to do.
Then let the lack of technology guide you towards enlightenment.
Agreed, the chaotic conditions can definitely provide the odd glimpse of other dimensions...
usually when you least expect it...
Enlightenment happens when you suddenly get a relief experience right after extremely harsh deprivation...
spirit to the rescue.

I nearly forgot to ask how do you define technology.
Just to clarify: the image below is NOT what I envision for the future.

[another bob]

Posted by ulli (here)
Enlightenment happens when you suddenly get a relief experience right after extremely harsh deprivation...
spirit to the rescue.

"One enlightened thought and one is a buddha, one foolish thought and one is an ordinary being."
~Hui Neng

In other words, there are, strictly speaking, no enlightened people, there are only enlightened acts, enlightenment being a quality, or element, rather than an entity.

Pema Chodron, the well-respected Tibetan Buddhist teacher, once said that she had never had this sudden and profound experience of opening that we hear so much about. She said that sometimes when her students would tell her about there own amazing and powerful experiences of opening, she would actually feel a little jealous. But she noticed that only a day or two after these profound experiences those students were once again right back where they had been before, in the midst of the same old confusion and trouble.