Alex Jones is OK/Assange is in trouble

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
Assange is just distraction drama. His 'leaks' had a purpose for his employers. Even Brzezinski saw that he worked for intelligence. He has enemies, but they aren't as powerful as his friends.

Sometimes I think he is MK

Sometimes I think he IS CIA

Sometimes I think this guy is a false pin up for the truth - kind of like the way they roll...

Glad I'm not alone thinking this guy is suspect and BTW he denies ANY 911 truth - that speaks volumes to me...

It screams volumes to me.

How do you know that isn't a position he takes purely for strategic purposes? For you, being a 9/11 truther is the hallmark of credibility. But are you his intended audience? For a lot of people, being a 9/11 truther means they will dismiss everything you say.

[Prodigal Son]

In order to really get a handle on who is damaging the PTB and what information it is that they consider a real threat, one only needs to go back and look at the mysterious deaths of the insiders and whistleblowers. Exposing or threatening what, exactly, has gotten people killed?

a. The Fed/banking scam
b. The alien agenda

Some names off the top of my head:

William Cooper, Phil Schneider, Barbara Marciniak, William T. McFadden, John F. Kennedy.

Alex Jones doesn't really talk much about those two things, does he?

Also, the way the power pyramid is structured, those on the lower levels will be sent to the slaughterhouse once the agenda of those at the top comes to fruition. Even high-up insiders like Hitler and Napoleon were not clued into the real purpose of what they were directed to do, and were betrayed in the end.

It's the invisible rulers at the top who need to be taken out, and once that happens, humanity will be freed from tyranny. There aren't many of them, but its a question of getting to them.

[ljwheat]

IMHO, Jones - Ike - Fulford - Limbaugh - Main stream News media - Politicians - anyone bringing up Drama,-- jumping up and down arresting our attention keeping us looking out hear at the matrix,-- are all on the same side of there fence.

This side of the fence you have Bill Ryan, Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra, the list is greater on this side of the fence for the bringers of self empowerment and stability inside oneself away from the Drama unfolding in the world outside of us.

John xoxo

[Nickolai]

Dear Prodigal Son,

Thank you for reponse.
I inclined to think that at the current level of consciousness pushing away so-called Shadow Government will not change much. For sure, for a time being things will look brighter, lighter and smiley.
But you see current human understanding dictate its rules. New rulers in power will start find their enemies, trying to get more power probably declariring different principles. But the picture will stay the same.
There need to be a change in the way people see each other, relate to each other. And once done, that will change the whole picture as a whole.

Nickolai

PS And another thing... Somehow I think (I might be wrong) the humanity needs a really trmendous shaking event to unite people. When one would not care about ex-PTB or otherwise, and only recognize human that needs help or could be asked for help. That's the real Unity in my understanding.

[wynderer]

Hi Nikolai --

in response to your post below, a prophecy of Edgar Cayce's came to mind -- the quote below is from a Jeff Rense article:

In this first short example, Cayce - in the 1930s - indicated the 'sins' of the key nations:

America - has forgotten "in God we trust"

England - conceit

France - lust

China - isolationism

India - internalization of knowledge

Italy - dissensions

He said "Russia will become beacons of hope for the world."

when i was in your country, a number of times i met some of your fellow countrymen & women, & would think to myself, 'I did not know there were such pure souls in this world'

your post sounds to me as coming from that same place -- that mysterious & intriguing [to this westerner] Russian soul

w/respect, wyn

edit to add link to full article

'Russia - The Hope Of The World'
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cayce_5.htm

Posted by Nickolai (here)
Dear Prodigal Son,

Thank you for reponse.
I inclined to think that at the current level of consciousness pushing away so-called Shadow Government will not change much. For sure, for a time being things will look brighter, lighter and smiley.
But you see current human understanding dictate its rules. New rulers in power will start find their enemies, trying to get more power probably declariring different principles. But the picture will stay the same.
There need to be a change in the way people see each other, relate to each other. And once done, that will change the whole picture as a whole.

Nickolai

PS And another thing... Somehow I think (I might be wrong) the humanity needs a really trmendous shaking event to unite people. When one would not care about ex-PTB or otherwise, and only recognize human that needs help or could be asked for help. That's the real Unity in my understanding.

[Prodigal Son]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
Assange is just distraction drama. His 'leaks' had a purpose for his employers. Even Brzezinski saw that he worked for intelligence. He has enemies, but they aren't as powerful as his friends.

Sometimes I think he is MK

Sometimes I think he IS CIA

Sometimes I think this guy is a false pin up for the truth - kind of like the way they roll...

Glad I'm not alone thinking this guy is suspect and BTW he denies ANY 911 truth - that speaks volumes to me...

It screams volumes to me.

How do you know that isn't a position he takes purely for strategic purposes? For you, being a 9/11 truther is the hallmark of credibility. But are you his intended audience? For a lot of people, being a 9/11 truther means they will dismiss everything you say.

Very interesting comment. I'm an avid reader of the ArmageddonConspiracy website, filled with enlightenment and it all rings very true to me, and yet, these guys who claim to be "illuminated" are still sticking with the Osama/Tim Osman 19 hijackers ridiculous nonsense, and they use it to bash Islam. I don't think they do it for the purpose of anyone dismissing what they say, because they make it very clear that they don't give a flying crap what anybody thinks about them. It's really too bad for them because it makes them look stupid to the very audience they're trying to attract.

Another aspect of 911 is this: As most of us here are aware, the PTW are kept on a leash by benevolent ET's and are not allowed to do everything they plan to do. They've been trying to get their "New World Order" since the days of Prescott Bush and the Business Plot. It seems that 911 was allowed to happen as the catalyst we need for change. It has outraged a lot of people in very high positions of power, and it is so incredibly obvious that it was an inside job if people would only look at it objectively without the media bias and mass mind control. I really do believe that they made a big mistake, one that will lead to their end.

[geofffxdwg]

I think they are both rats.Jones has a majority of people that the elite fear the most blindly submitting to his every command.That is the teenager to about 25 years age group.The elite have two rituals that are always included in any type of agenda they green light.The first ritual is always to tell us what they have in mind before they start doing it to us.The second ritual and more important is whatever evil they plan to inflict on us they always have an angle in which we pay them out of our pockets to inflict whatever it is on us.We not only pay for the cost and materials but we also pay much more because they can't stand it if the overhead is more than 30%.They always mix much truth in something such as wiki leaks along with many reputable people most people trust while they set us up so we blindly submit without realizing whats really happening until its to late or never realizing it at all.Its very easy to see what camp Jones is in.Look at his wealth,his guests and basically his lies.He always says a lie and says "we broke that story 4 years ago,google it and you will see I'm right" I did on one show where I google at least 6 subjects and he was wrong everytime.Look at people he disrespects.The very same people that have had millions murdered for much less.If he wasn't working for them he would have been gone along time ago.Assange is the only person I know who can sit in a jail cell in England and still have a new press release carried worldwide by cabal media central every three hours for the entire time he is incarcerated.Its not to hard to see what camp they are from. Pretty much everything Cabal central covers or pretends to not cover is ritual number one being set up.Jones turns on his so called buddies at the drop of a pin.A real back stabber you can't trust.Now where else and who else has the exact same way of doing things.Thats right the elite global back stabbers.

[geofffxdwg]

Perhaps a tremendous happy positive event that leaves the cabal shaking.They don't like it when any of us are happy.

[Nickolai]

Thank you, Wyn!

[Nickolai]

Posted by geofffxdwg (here)
Perhaps a tremendous happy positive event that leaves the cabal shaking.They don't like it when any of us are happy.

Dear geofffxdwg,

Thank you!
I have a different poit of view.
In my view if we follow the PTB kind of reality then they do their best to make people happy, sad, angry, irritated....bla-bla-bla, anything they can to make us out of our center. They succeeded 100% FOR NOW.
People are distructed at the best.

Warm regards,

Nickolai

[Nickolai]

Posted by geofffxdwg (here)
Look at his wealth,his guests and basically his lies.He always says a lie and says "we broke that story 4 years ago,google it and you will see I'm right" I did on one show where I google at least 6 subjects and he was wrong everytime

Wow! I did not know he is that easy to get..)) Then he is oriented for people who blindly trust his words and too lazy to check what he says. I am speechless!
Is he really wealthy? I mean I am here have no slightest idea.

Out of context a bit. You know, when I see this guy he reminds me a teenager of HitlerJugend, same blond hair, same hairstyle, who all of a suuden appeared out of past, aged but still the same..))With the scent of Hitler himself, nearly fainting because of his hysteria.

Warmly,

Nickolai

[Cidersomerset]

I know what you mean Nickolai .....Why do some activists get away with saying almost anything like Alex Jones, David Icke,Kerry and others....
and Julian Assange ,Gary McKinnon.and others are persacuted jailed or killed ?? I don't know the absolute answer , there may not be.
Some of the answers given already maybe valid !! I 'm still not sure ? All these agencies and Power brokers seem to like playing games
with our lives so it could be that it suits there agenda for some researchers to throw out wild accusations to the mainstream view,
So when the time is right, dicredit them publicly. Or use them as examples like Gary McKinnon or Julian Assange ,Bradly Manning as Hacktavists
& cybor Terrorists. New terror words , to scare the public.....

I don't know if some are mind controlled or disinfo agents ? Its something we have to be aware of as we look at all this info ??

I just saw this on David Ickes site and I think illustates some of what you ask . Alex is calling on a local CBS TV station and
discussing with the host and a guest the rest is self explanitory....He is more restrained than on his own show....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_sCvGrOe_2Y

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...ity-operations

http://www.infowars.com/u-s-troops-t...ty-operations/

[geofffxdwg]

Unfortunately I know you are absolutely correct but I was kind of using a little dry humor and wishful thinking combined.Thank you Nickolai

[Nickolai]

Thank you, man!
I agree with and I look in this direction.
The point is that I am evaluating much stuff, in the process of it anyway.
Unfortunately, I have to admit that I find myself deluded in many ways. Alas! But again that's great that I started to recognize it...))

Thank you very much, Cidersomerset!

[Camilo]

With the whole world watching the Assange soap opera delivered by the media, anything that is said about what may or may not happen to him is pure speculation. Kudos to the government of Ecuador which is taking a stand against the the Empire that still believes rules the world.

[Nickolai]

Camilo,

If you would be in his place, would it be a soap opera? I guess not.
Any proof that the whole whole story is disinfo? Are you sure that this guy is disinfo agent?
Please prove it then.
Otherwise it is just bla-bal-bla!

There would be no furum if anyone would post the comments like this.

Awaiting,

Nickolai

[araucaria]

@nikolai, @andreas

Hey guys, you're thinking of leaving the forum because there is a certain amount of disinfo on here? I think that is a very good reason for staying!

If ever the disinfo merchants got to chase everyone else away, they would have won. Just stick around, do your thing, don't waste your time arguing with them, this is the way to clean up the forum.

[modwiz]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
Assange is just distraction drama. His 'leaks' had a purpose for his employers. Even Brzezinski saw that he worked for intelligence. He has enemies, but they aren't as powerful as his friends.

Sometimes I think he is MK

Sometimes I think he IS CIA

Sometimes I think this guy is a false pin up for the truth - kind of like the way they roll...

Glad I'm not alone thinking this guy is suspect and BTW he denies ANY 911 truth - that speaks volumes to me...

It screams volumes to me.

How do you know that isn't a position he takes purely for strategic purposes? For you, being a 9/11 truther is the hallmark of credibility. But are you his intended audience? For a lot of people, being a 9/11 truther means they will dismiss everything you say.

I share what I see. After that my conscience is clear. Navigate as you see fit.

Do I know? I know that his intended audience does not include me.

[Magnus]

Posted by araucaria (here)
@nikolai, @andreas

Hey guys, you're thinking of leaving the forum because there is a certain amount of disinfo on here? I think that is a very good reason for staying!

If ever the disinfo merchants got to chase everyone else away, they would have won. Just stick around, do your thing, don't waste your time arguing with them, this is the way to clean up the forum.

Those who are able to recognize trolls and disinfo have a responsibility towards fellow members and guests.

Arguing is not fun, but if there is an argument about the truth, know that the truth is always worth being protected. In the end, truth will always prevail!

Things like this can be heavy to carry on with, but if we try and fail, at least we have tried.

[geofffxdwg]

Nickolai, I would not say so much he is a disinfo agent because his purpose is to stress people out and if they are already stressed out then his job is to raise that stress level higher and keep everyone wound up tighter than a drum.That is exactly what he does.Stress out and sell out.He gets people to protest and what happens? The cops get to break in their new night sticks.Stress levels go up and stay up long enough to last until he comes up with next way we are getting a raw deal and why everyone should be mad as hell. Occupy the fed.While he is occupying a hotel suite yelling at his teleprompter effectively raising the stress level of all his little info warriors.If he really was sincere I doubt he would have a wife and children or even friends for that matter.Alex Jones, the eternal bummer of life, he hates everything he does or what everyone else does.He earns his money almost the same way those wrestlers do yelling and screaming all the time.He was short changed by the good lord himself when it comes to having any class what so ever.