Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[9eagle9]

Technology can intrude on the psyche

You see there is this thing called a TV.....

Posted by wynderer (here)
sigh ,,,,, i am not talking about psychic intrusion -- i am talking about technological intrusion -- psyches of various kinds creating & using the technology, true, but still technological intrusion

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
If they were so amazing I can't figure out why they can't figure out how to heal psychic intrusion. Maybe they weren't as good as you'd like to remember them to be, and there are actually some people out there better at it than they are .

What technology? Once one understands the nature of the technology one can understand how to thwart it. Once I understood the TV was rotting my processes I turned it off.

That sounds flippant and facetious but I'm serious. You said these were people of mind, body and spirit experts not that they were technologically savvy. Maybe that's where they failed at.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
why do you think you can convince us that we should accept your opinions as the truth?

I'd gently suggest that none of us know the truth, or even pretend to know it all. I doubt if anyone here is trying to convince anyone else of anything.

All of us, including many anonymous guests who frequently read this thread (and the researchers and writers referenced on this thread in many places) are looking for answers to good questions.

In exchanging opinions -- and experiences -- the opportunity is for us all to work together, not against one another, to see if we can collectively take a few steps nearer to whatever the truth may be.

[9eagle9]

A perfect example of consciousness imposing influence on perception and re-translating it.

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Wyn,

Thank you for your story.

Do you know who the good guys are?

Did they tell you where they come from?

Did they inform you as to why you were targeted in the first place?

Did they give you any clues as to why they waited so long to show up to help you?

We know a lot about the bad guys, so if you have any information to share about the good guys, it would be welcome.

Thank You DoT, and this is (in my opinion) the very most important question to get answers about. I highly respect Truman Cash and his experience (as far as he has reported upon) is sans of any "good guys" though he recently established what he characterized as a "good relationship" with a Gray (I have seen some folks use "Grey" and have no clue which one is more correct).

Anyways, based on my experience which has been almost and only what seems to be "non-physical interventions" and though one particular "personality" I came to know always came across as quite wise and never lied to me nor ever caused me harm from my best perception and perspective, I am of the opinion as of now that there are likely no benevolent non physical, non human nor non earth born human beings that are interacting with us earth born human beings.

I want to believe there are! And in fact, I want to so, so badly that I won't believe there are unless I have a direct experience with one that is.

Even this one, isolated voice I have been able to communicate with, I am highly skeptical about because a.) it is just a voice and b.) how do I know this voice is not also one of the other voices which did lead me to harm myself?

So I am extremely skeptical there are any "good guys" at this point in time.

Having said all that, there are folks I highly respect who have recanted experiences that I interpret to suggest there are indeed good guys. In some cases, these folks I highly respect stated they believed whole heartedly these were good guys.

I hope one day to know for certain myself and I hope that what I know would be that there are. justoneman

As always, it is very difficult and nearly impossible for some to believe things which are outside their frame of reference.

I know I've posted this before: When Columbus first reached the new land with 3 ships and white men, the aboriginals could not see either the ships nor the white men, and these were physical! They could not see them because ships and white men were outside their frame of reference. The shaman saw them first because the shaman was operating from a higher level of consciousness and he taught the others to "see". I hope this is not seen as going off topic because I'm trying to make a point.

There are many who have never had encounters with dark forces, so they believe that dark forces do not exist but that they are merely a construct of a troubled mind. This is what psychiatrists, more or less, make their patients believe, and this is why psychiatrists never cure anyone. Again, not trying to go off topic...

If you have had experiences with only malevolent beings, then that's what you will believe. This much is logical.

Although my experiences with malevolent, non physical beings, far surpass the experiences with benevolent, non physical beings, I have had experiences with benevolent non physical beings too. The list of these benevolent non physical beings visiting me is short, but it does exist. On top of my list is Yeshua. And this is what he has said to me:

"THERE IS NO FORCE OUTSIDE YOU WHICH IS GREATER THAN YOU. NO MATTER HOW FRAGMENTED YOU FEEL, YOU ARE STILL WHOLE AT YOUR CORE. YOUR WEAKNESS IS AN ILLUSION CAUSED BY THOSE WHOSE AIM IS TO DESTROY YOU. AND IF YOU GIVE INTO THAT BELIEF, THEN YOU WILL BE VIRTUALLY, DESTROYED. THE ANSWERS ARE WITHIN YOU. YOU MUST FIND YOUR OWN SOLUTIONS AND REGAIN STRENGTH TO BECOME IMPENETRABLE TO THE PERPETRATORS. NOT ONLY MUST YOU BECOME IMPENETRABLE, BUT YOU MUST REGAIN YOUR FULL BELIEF IN YOURSELF SO THAT THE PERPETRATORS WILL NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO HARM YOU. UNLESS YOU LEARN TO DO THIS, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RISE TO A HIGHER DENSITY. THEIR AGENDA IS TO PREVENT YOU FROM RISING TO A HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE ONCE YOU ARE THERE, THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TOUCH YOU AGAIN. THIS CAN BE DONE, AND DO IT, YOU WILL."

For those of us who have always been targets and have sunk to the low vibrations of worry and fear, a word from these beings who operate from a higher density is very helpful and encouraging. I will have to remember those words whenever I feel lost or read discouraging thoughts. This is easier said than done, but done, it must be.

My wish for you Justone, is that some day soon you will experience the presence of a benevolent non-physical being. I'm not even remotely suggesting that you rely on them or ask them for help. I just wish this for you because it's such an elating experience and once you've had that experience, you will never forget it. You will still have to do your own work in freeing yourself, as we all do. But it is comforting to know that we are not alone when it comes to benevolent beings.

[wynderer]

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[9eagle9]

Well what do you think Bill. Is a defeatist attitude and deflecting all suggestions of self preservation as 'useless' when there is evidence to the contrary, going to help us out of the collective ditch? How does one move on collectively when there's those in the collective who claim we can't move on so can't make the attempt. That's not a collective effort.

Sure they can be swept along into an original future circumstance but how well are they going to fare there? When all the systems fail, those who depend on systems are going be in tough place if they are dependent on systems.

There really is no need to convince anyone to think that water is dry when someone knows water is wet. I'm coming from the stand point of why are some people so adamant that their opinions take precedence over evidence? Thats what the powers that be did to us. Some things are demonstrable and provide their own evidence, why we let people kill that under something that is a personal prejudice. I mean this is just small scale episode of something that has been repeating for years, centuries, eons maybe on a greater collective level.

Or should people just forget the collective part of it and go it alone? Oviously Wyn's remarks are not going to thwart the self determined, but that is because people are saying "You've made it obvious that you are not experienced enough on certain subject to make a determination. You admitted to it."
I am not at all convinced by what I am seeing these days that collective steps are possible. Collective means organized co-operation. Politic and governance used to simply be a means of organizing people for the greater good of all until it took just a few to turn into a means of control meant to benefit those who didn't want the majority to progress.

It took a handful of creepy backwards people to rule the world, I don't see why it its against all odds that in spite of the resistance towards progress, that it shouldn't take but a few (relatively speaking) to take it back. Or at least level the playing field.

Doing the same thing over and over again doesn't seem like we are going to create different circumstances.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
why do you think you can convince us that we should accept your opinions as the truth?

I'd gently suggest that none of us know the truth, or even pretend to know it all. I doubt if anyone here is trying to convince anyone else of anything.

All of us, including many anonymous guests who frequently read this thread (and the researchers and writers referenced on this thread in many places) are looking for answers to good questions.

In exchanging opinions -- and experiences -- the opportunity is for us all to work together, not against one another, to see if we can collectively take a few steps nearer to whatever the truth may be.

[wynderer]

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[Brizil]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
why do you think you can convince us that we should accept your opinions as the truth?

I'd gently suggest that none of us know the truth, or even pretend to know it all. I doubt if anyone here is trying to convince anyone else of anything.

All of us, including many anonymous guests who frequently read this thread (and the researchers and writers referenced on this thread in many places) are looking for answers to good questions.

In exchanging opinions -- and experiences -- the opportunity is for us all to work together, not against one another, to see if we can collectively take a few steps nearer to whatever the truth may be.

I can't agree with Bill more here. I am glad you posted this Bill. IMO, in fighting throughout the "alternative media" has spread like the plague and has really disrupted/slowed down what we all want to accomplish. To be a TRULY free globally connected society of human beings.

[9eagle9]

I have no idea about what post you are talking about Wyn after flipping back a few pages, could you please link me to it? You expressing something about RV and techno payback attack is not ringing a bell.

Posted by wynderer (here)
pls read my post -- my long post -- about my RVing & the techno payback attack -- this thread & my posts on it are not a philosophical discussion for me -- i am fighting for my life -- & not against wimpy astral attacks

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
sigh ,,,,, i am not talking about psychic intrusion -- i am talking about technological intrusion -- psyches of various kinds creating & using the technology, true, but still technological intrusion

Nowhere did 9eagle9 suggest that her comment was aimed universally at all forms of archontic attack.

She clearly stated that her opinion is that if there are advanced beings of a benevolent nature that are inclined to intervene in some helpful way they have apparently not done so in any noticeable way with regards to the psychic attacks, one of the entry points for some entities within the entire archontic structure that may (and likely) includes physical entities that use technology of a physical nature in their process of abductions.

Why do you imply her statement to be universal?

You seem to imply that technology is limited to the physical world but surely you do not mean to do so, do you?

It almost smacks of materialism in that only the physical world exists and which happens to be the very goal of the archontic forces for humanity to sink into believing. And this has been reported by just about every authority of the subject of archons and has been the pointed out by David Icke over and over as a potential point of no return.

I would hate a reader of this thread to only consider one's physical world experience with regards to what may in fact be the very most significant issue humanity is dealing with at this time. justoneman

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Support for what?

Posted by wynderer (here)
still no support -- many members & guests reading this thread -- hope you are all being entertained

[wynderer]

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[RunningDeer]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Thanks DoT for post # 1785. I am an optimist and I do believe I will one day have this experience. justoneman

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
My wish for you Justone, is that some day soon you will experience the presence of a benevolent non-physical being. I'm not even remotely suggesting that you rely on them or ask them for help. I just wish this for you because it's such an elating experience and once you've had that experience, you will never forget it. You will still have to do your own work in freeing yourself, as we all do. But it is comforting to know that we are not alone when it comes to benevolent beings.

If I had any credibility, I’m about to lose it in this post.

This doesn’t come from an airy-fairy opinion, JustOneMan, I see you as a large, benevolent being. You are huge. I’m only bringing it up for no other reason but to say it IS what I ‘see’. It’s so obvious. No one could convince me otherwise. Drats, I have no concrete proof or links for anyone to look up or orbs with your face in them to prove otherwise.

Even as I write this and make promises to myself not to push the “reply button”, I see a mostly blue aura that surrounds your head and heart area about about 6"-8" out. It intermittently mixes with a white-golden, outer part of your whole body. Seeings how I just put it out there and now, I may come across a post saying that I am the resident “airy-fairy, love and light crack-pot”, I’d ask for you please to consider the possibility. Ask your gut-knowing. I believe you'll hear a faint "yes" for now.


......................Going, going, gone ...............................

[Chester]

Posted by wynderer (here)
still no support -- many members & guests reading this thread -- hope you are all being entertained

I support you wynderer, few are brave enough to post of their experiences - especially the experiences you have had to endure. I get too carried away about solution and lost patience. justoneman

[9eagle9]

Maybe that is telling you something. I don't know of a lot of people who will support someone they perceive is on a self destructive path, that would be sick.

Wyn honestly I don't get a whole lot of support either.I am grateful for the support I get, but its not going to validate me or invalidate me through sheer numbers....or lack of. There comes a time where we have to stand on principal no matter what other people think...as long as we aren't doing it for the wrong reasons. Its the nature of the support I get that is important. PersonallyI will choose the support of a few well informed in tune people over the mass support of a bunch of people that can't find their butt with both hands.

Support doesn't always mean agreement. I see Justoneman trying to support you and DOT. It may not be the sort of support that you want but...its support.

I am fortunate that I had a couple people who were willing to take my hand, and kick me in the arse at the same time. But something was wrong in my life, and I begged the universe to send me someone who would tell me what it was instead of cooing that I was fine, all love and light, an angel in disguise. Obviously I was not, otherwise that paradigm truly is suckintudionously miserable. Or there's no intrinsic meaningful value in 'being' such things. I wanted something to change and I was willing to accept what they were showing (not telling) me. I may not have accepted it immediately and I fixed over night but it pushed me into a journey of self exploration where I had the means to confront my own demons.

Those are brave people, to risk my wrath, to break the peace, to possibly end a friendship or risk a conflict when they showed me things I might either didn't want to believe or didn't want to hear or see. I asked for that though, I asked for people to come into my life and help me figure out what was wrong with me. I couldn't see my own crap. When they showed up I couldn't stick my nose up in the air because it wasn't what I wanted to hear, because I was responsible for them showing up in the first place! I can very easily see where I could have resisted them, and sometimes I did.

This works forwards and backwards.

They did it anyway and I thank god everyday that they did. It doesn't make me popular, but that's okay one has something far more enduring than external support.

The most intrepid creators don't wait for the consensus of others.

Posted by wynderer (here)
Bill, i am not trying to work against anyone -- i am going thru a time of memories of being both an abductee & a milab beginning to break thru -- i'd thought Avalon was a safe place to talk about this

i'm getting precious little support on this thread

do you think this is easy?

it's not, trust me

[wynderer]

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[Chester]

From the Steve Richards interview...

Annalie: The abduction question, you know, we might turn it over to Steve because when he and I were talking, he said, he said abductions were something more of problem years ago, maybe ten years ago, I think he said, but not so much now because aliens have their clones and hybrids. I mean maybe we can segue into asking Steve about this abduction phenomena and how it’s playing out, what his information is about that.

Randy: Yea, I’d like to hear that as well.

Miranda: Yea.

Steve: Yea look, I go back, when I first started putting this together and, you know five years prior to putting this course together – I’ve been twelve years teaching – that goes back really about fifteen years now. And, back in those days, you know, I was one of the only people in the world that could deal with abductions. And, there was quite a lot of abductions taking place. And what I would do, I’d enfold space‐time, back to the cause, the effect of the original agreement in time, no matter how far back in time it was. You see, one thing I realized is there’s lore. L‐o‐r‐e. And, for a planet to be suspended in space, there has to be laws of lore. And one of the laws I found covers all dimensions.

They’re all governed by these laws. And one of those laws is nothing can invade the space of another without permission. So they had to get permission way back in time. Once they got permission from you, that was an agreement. That agreement is valid through time and space for eternity. The same people that’ve being abducted today are the people who made the agreements thousands of years ago. So by enfolding space‐time of the dimension and going back to the cause and effect of the agreement, and breaking the agreement way back in time, would actually stop those abductions from taking place into the future. It ceased to be.

Comment: It could not hurt any abductee to consider and explore this possibility which then might lead to solution.

justone

[9eagle9]

Wynder, excuse my confusion but I was expecting to see a story about yourself. I do recall reading this and I thought you said "my story". This is someone elses story ,correct?

My opinion. Since you asked for it: Like so many other people before her concerning RV she ended up getting into something she didn't know all the ends and outs of. It is a learned mental ability not a spiritual one, so that means those who RV are just as susceptible to compromise as anyone else with a mind. Well educated RVers perhaps not so much so. If I had an opportunity to speak to this woman I'd probably question her the same way I'm questioning you. Maybe different questions. Probably, like what the hell were you thinking of? Do you not know the PTB developed this, and so this is their domain that you went blundering into without thinking of the consequences. The same way we all went blundering into lines of credit and social security cards--we didn't have full disclosure. This is not the same as telling them not to RV its telling them to know what they are leaping into before they leap into it. FULL disclosure. We the people do not get a whole lot that.

The same thing I'd ask anyone who trip trapped into a clinic and accepted a vaccine" I don't know what it is really, or how it works, or whats in it, but it promises to keep me from getting the flu." Well we see we get a lot more than just flu protection when we get a vaccine...sometimes we get the actual flu. Among other nasty things.

Unfortunately people who go trip trapping into RV without exploring the full implications of it end up in this sort of compromising position. I'm sorry that it happens. Certain safety factors are not taken into consideration, like if you want to RV don't look at what you are viewing.If one does not understand that seemingly paradoxical statement they perhaps may wish to think twice before RVing.

RV is NOT a recreational vehicle.

RV is big part of our remote containment, our population containment programs. Do we not realize this in advance? Many 'abilities' dangled out there are. If not maybe we need exercise some discernment before we poke our eyeballs at something that far more adept and educated in it then we are. They now have the means to record what they are RVing and they have technologically advanced viewing modules. This on it's own is something that could be overcome but not if people aren't aware of it BEFORE they start to view. I'm sorry that was a grievous way to pay for one's own ignorance but it happens because of reasons I've already mentioned.

Conversely.....Someone who is being viewed also has the ability to reverse, and put lot of feedback, back to the viewer essentially backlashing the intrusive mind with a lot of high frequency noise. That's called psychic defense. If they had not opened a door to another, the other wouldn't have had opportunity to slam it in their face.

One nice thing about technology, particularly if it is EM based, is that it can be blown out.

RV like anything else could be a learning experience, and we can learn from other's mistakes instead of incorporating the mistakes of others into our destiny. It COULD be a valuable tool in freeing ourselves but not if we are going to turn into a means of imprisonment....mainly because of our own ignorance.

[wynderer]

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[Daughter of Time]

Wyn,

No one here is against you. I feel for what you've been through. i understand. And if some of the contributors here seem a little impatient it's because I think they'd like you to switch to a different way of thinking. If people here didn't care about what you've been through, they wouldn't even bother to reply to your posts. if someone is not worthy of a response, their posts are simply ignored. Your posts are not being ignored because people want to help you. You may not see the replies as being "supportive" but that is merely because they do not agree with what you say. And who has ever learned anything by being only around people who agree with everything they say?

Everyone wants you to be free of your burdens. This community "is" supportive even when there are disagreements. If you were to tell me, one of these days, that you've managed to free yourself from abductions and your health is now perfect, I'd break out the champagne! Justone doesn't drink so he'd have to open a bottle of sparkling water. I don't know what everyone else would do, but you can bet they would all congratulate you and they'd happier for you than you can ever imagine.

You think you'll be going "home" soon. I'm afraid, dear Wyn, that's another programming because when one has been a target all of one's life, they don't allow you to go "home". They just keep re-programming you to come back for more. I'm sorry if this sounds horrible, but this is what i've learned, and as Bill said, no one knows the absolute truth, but I don't think they'll let you off the hook that easily. We don't get to go "home" when we die unless we manage to clear our clutter down here first. You may be here for a long time yet. I hope you are, and that you'll use your time to set yourself free at whatever level is possible at this point in time.

With love,

DoT

[9eagle9]

The first exposure to the Law of Lore was back in o2/ or 03. When I had no idea what it was, but I journaled it anyway. And the journal basically describes how people self create their own reality and then agree to it. During that same time I was given the knowledge of "People can't be told, they have to be shown".


I thought that was cool. Neato! Then I realized the implications of it. Sometimes we have to through experience (be shown) and repeated patterns keep experiencing the same crap over and over again, not listening to a word other people say like "You are walking in circles" into we get so sick of our own condition we do something to correct it. If we are getting something from our own condition, we may not be tempted to change it.

I didn't even know the Law of Lore which is pretty prevalent in druidic mysticism was a knowledge that someone else had, because no one talks about it. Therefore no one gets any exposure to the concept. There are cultures that have adapted that law and made it into a god. And worship it , regardless of what sort of name they give it.

Posted by justoneman (here)
From the Steve Richards interview...

Annalie: The abduction question, you know, we might turn it over to Steve because when he and I were talking, he said, he said abductions were something more of problem years ago, maybe ten years ago, I think he said, but not so much now because aliens have their clones and hybrids. I mean maybe we can segue into asking Steve about this abduction phenomena and how it’s playing out, what his information is about that.

Randy: Yea, I’d like to hear that as well.

Miranda: Yea.

Steve: Yea look, I go back, when I first started putting this together and, you know five years prior to putting this course together – I’ve been twelve years teaching – that goes back really about fifteen years now. And, back in those days, you know, I was one of the only people in the world that could deal with abductions. And, there was quite a lot of abductions taking place. And what I would do, I’d enfold space‐time, back to the cause, the effect of the original agreement in time, no matter how far back in time it was. You see, one thing I realized is there’s lore. L‐o‐r‐e. And, for a planet to be suspended in space, there has to be laws of lore. And one of the laws I found covers all dimensions.

They’re all governed by these laws. And one of those laws is nothing can invade the space of another without permission. So they had to get permission way back in time. Once they got permission from you, that was an agreement. That agreement is valid through time and space for eternity. The same people that’ve being abducted today are the people who made the agreements thousands of years ago. So by enfolding space‐time of the dimension and going back to the cause and effect of the agreement, and breaking the agreement way back in time, would actually stop those abductions from taking place into the future. It ceased to be.

Comment: It could not hurt any abductee to consider and explore this possibility which then might lead to solution.

justone

[Chester]

wynderer, you have a Grey walk-in friend? Since you used the word friend, I assume you are ok with this Grey walking-in. Someone once told me a walk-in replaces the individual spirit in the body walked into and I told them I believed a walk-in could come in and the individual's spirit didn't have to leave and thus two spirit beings could occupy the one body. I told that to my hypnotherapist under hypnosis last early June. Actually, it was the voice that came out of me during that session that said it was a walk-in and that I refused to leave and thus we became two.

It was this specific entity that I believe "came in" in that experience I shared with you about when I was 6 years old. But recall it was against my will (or so I thought because I fought and tried to let go of the object they placed in my left hand and that is when a force within my hand took over and grasped the object tighter and then I blacked out).

In my session the entity said that "it" was being placed in "me" (my body) and I didn't leave as "it" said was the agreement. And so there's been me and "it" until recently (I think "it" is gone now).

What do you think about that? Any thoughts? Thanks... justone

[wynderer]

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