Sex at Dawn, an Anthropological Review of Sex

[Chester]

Posted by write4change (here)
I finished reading the entire book about three weeks ago. If I had had access to this book when I was young I would be a different person in many ways. Maybe a much happier one. Nancy's take on this after quite a bit of experience gets my nod for how most people really are when totally comfortable being honest.

That being said part of the problem is there is a huge range of sexuality that most people are not allowed to consider in a rational way. There are people very happy being asexual, true hermaphrodites, as well as, once a year, once a month, once a week, and once a day kind of people. Being married to someone who does not fit you does not feel good.

I found this book so good, I copied some pages of it and have been sending it snal mail to people I really want to dialogue with.

In the book, it seriously addresses intense primate studies over the last 40 years. Gibbons are not that much like us. Our close cousins are chimpanzes, gorillas, and bonobos. There is much talk about DNA in the book. There is much current research still on the tribes of Oceania etc.

It is my hope that this book rocks off the walls of the world for the next year or so. A second in already on its way. By the way, the guy has a mate of many years who co wrote the book with him. She is a beautiful Indian woman. One of the things the book discusses is how the Western world has forced every other society to do its take on the way things ought to be and how deeply many resent it.

Those who have seen the so called sex temples of India, one of the statues used to provoke the Western ICK is a man mounted by a woman who is supported on each side by another woman who is also masturbating. In India this was once sacred--- not obscene. To do this well, in the right way for the right reasons, requires a kind of love and understanding the West has no concept and absolutely refused to consider that it has any validity. These were not orgies but ceremonial spiritual events that happened out of the context of every day life.

I have studied sex all my life and I am tantric master. I once wanted to do a thread on spiritual sexuality but was told by the mods that it was inappropriate and that we have children on this site. A year ago that infuriated me. Today, I agree. The childish behavior often displayed here by many a so called adult makes a subject of maturity requiring open minds and seeking new and different knowledge definitely inappropriate.

I refuse to get into whose ideas or beliefs of any kind are right or wrong but I do continually read to understand people's thinking and processes. The Darwin's delimenas and extensive notes that were not published are also considered in the book. On a whole religion is avoided. If religion is your basis for choosing your sexuality, then you have already decided how and are no longer interested in the why and therefore, you should not participate in this discussion which is not based on any religion but notes 1000s of years of ancient sexual practices.

If you can consider that everything we were taught about the pyramids was wrong, why not sexuality as a major culture factor is mostly wrong. Religion above all uses sex to repress thinking and instill guilt. The easiest way to raising your vibes and experiencing deep connection within and accessing your internal DNA is sex. In my life, I have found that to be an absolute fact. I don't preach it, instill it, or defend it. I just allow myself to know who I am deeply that way. I am so glad this book will give more people permission to try that path.

I cannot recommend this book more I am now going to watch the clip and maybe I will comment more.

One of the top 10 posts I ever read on this forum - entirely true...

I had to leave the US and move to the Caribbean and Latin America to discover freedom from all the BS programming the US (and other countries of similar sexual idiocy) - I eventually studied Tantra and met several practitioners. You would be amazed some of the folks who have found freedom through this path. One of the benefits, I haven't been to a doctor in more than a dozen years... I am 54 now and happy, healthy and feel like a 25 year old.

[Kimberley]

I am happy to see this thread come back to life!! I like this thread more than any other thread I have partaken in...

I feel that sexual repression is the TOP form of control on this planet.

I personally am past my procreative years.. I am now in my co-creative years with my sexual energy. I am 54 years young and no longer have procreation abilities (thank goodness). Although I do still have STRONG co-creative sexual energy that is fabulous to experience.

Much love to us all!

[Flash]

Posted by write4change (here)
It is my understanding from reading much research that while cromagnon man and neanderthals existed together for about 10,000 years, there is no neanderthal DNA contained in homo sapiens today.

I have read this so much that it is now an assumption. In the wake of all the new anthropology we are discoverying, if someone knows differently I wish they would post with a link.

Wrong. It has been found recently that europeans And all non sub saharians have about four percent neanderthal genes in them. Proper cells had to be found of the neanderthal before analysis were conclusive.

http://http://news.discovery.com/hum...al-110718.html

[Chester]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
I am happy to see this thread come back to life!! I like this thread more than any other thread I have partaken in...

I feel that sexual repression is the TOP form of control on this planet.

I personally am past my procreative years.. I am now in my co-creative years with my sexual energy. I am 54 years young and no longer have procreation abilities (thank goodness). Although I do still have STRONG co-creative sexual energy that is fabulous to experience.

Much love to us all! :groughug:

Ohhh I forgot to add... I got snipped at age 38 after my third child - for any males who don't know... there is zero difference in "experience" of sex.

A medical fact (so they say these days) is that it is very wise for a male to ejaculate at least once a day. This is important for ensuring a healthy prostate gland which we all know is famous for becoming cancerous. Most women I know who have been in relationships of lengthiness do not want to have sex daily which is certainly fine yet I have found many instances where some women get upset over the male counterpart if he participates in masturbation assisted by media available on the internet for example. This trend also tends to be something that proliferates more in the US, Canada and the UK and some other western countries that are susceptible to the main stream media influence that does the following.

If one watches TV shows and movies such as so called comedies and even the drama shows, one is inundated with massive sexual overtones. There are constant jokes or innuendos that on the one hand point out the absolutely electrifying sexuality of women (rarely but occasionally a male and if a male he is almost always simultaneously depicted as a sexual brute with little intelligence) and on the other hand via "news" media, point out the atrocious behaviors of those who act upon their sexuality which falls outside of the programmed acceptable norms of American society.

We all know how sex is used constantly in advertising. Yet when a "serious" media regurgitation such as a story where a female teacher has sex with a student, say, 15 years old - she gets castigated by the police, the media and most of the opinion of the public and usually ends up in prison. I am not saying that what she and the 15 year old boy did was or is "right" but it is entirely understandable and should be treated as an illness of the disease one can be infected by via the messages we are given by our lovely media. At most, the teacher should be treated via counseling.

Case in point is the newest Adam Sandler - "That's My Boy" -

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=zQaKpHZ8HFA

which is based on this exact scenario. I actually went and saw the movie (that's how bored I am as I am in Texas at the moment - I normally live out of the country) - There are hundreds of references to everything sexual. The movie paints Adam Sandler to be a hero for his role when 15 in having sex with his teacher who, in the movie, was sent to prison for 30 years but still remained a hot, sexy woman (as the "older" teacher was played by a sexy Susan Sarandon).

We allow the media to create our thinking and based on the double messages given (the messages from media such as the movie above and then the messages by the "news" of the "reality" of how evil someone is that they actually acted out the scenario) where 99% of Americans are torn in the middle of the dynamic where they are afraid to act and yet obsess all day long that they don't.

This is just a tiny example of how we are controlled and one of the biggest reasons I had to leave the country 15 years ago and rarely return.

justone

Ohhh and you know how what in the US is seen as "sexual harassment" is handled in most offices in most of Latin America? For one, no one I have ever encountered calls sexual hinting "harassment." Many act upon it. They have places all over that are like US motels with big fences around them. You drive your car inside, get a room and then believe it or not, drive the car right into the room and shut the door. For the woman or man who is hinted towards that is not interested, they simply say, "Sorry... not interested," and life goes on. All the adults know these types of things go on and its not just the men... women are almost as prolific in participation of sex on the side. I found the environment far more healthy and is one of the primary reasons I no longer live in the USA, I can't stand the repression.

no wonder the following...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hooter...134315225.html

[Flash]

As a French speaking person, I must say that I do find Americans very conservatives, almost to an extreme with sex, being religiously forbidden in one part and yet, absolutely on every television show one may see with all kind of unhealthy inuendos.

You are right about South America, Justoneman, its is much freer, as well as Turkey (believe it or not, lots of Muslim countries are much freer on sex than Americans).

However, I noted something worth mentioning imho. Freer sex is, less responsible men seem to be towards their children - reproduction has not consequences, at least for men. I do not know if I am right or wrong about this, this is a feeling I got while living in Central America.

As for the motesl South American styles, this is true that you get in the room in your car, almost (not always), after huge doors are opened, but I am far from sure that this is always on a volontary basis from the women or children perspective. It is very easy to get someone in and then force them outisde of anyone views or attention. I have also witnessed surely as much violence towards women in Central America as there is in North America for sure..

The "sorry not interested part" is because you were an American men and respected it. Once a woman get into the car of a South American, sorry or not, interested or not, she is in for the rest, willfully or not. She cannot change her mind on the way. If she does, she will get raped most of the time. She had given permission by getting in the car to start with, this is how it is perceived. You are still the woman owned by a man (meaning with no rights by and for yourself), in SA or Middle East, do not forget it when you get there (of course, not aaaalll Central or South American man are like this, but a majority).

However, for a good side or a good point, flirting is part of life in Central/South America and in Turkey as well, and is seen favorably by women as long as respect is also there. Women do not get offended for being openly fliirted and commented on. South American and Turkish women often feel very lost when they come in America and are not openly flirted anymore. They often go depressed thinking they have lost their feminine charm.

Talking here from experience and my South/Central American and Turkish friends comments, friends who are women

[Chester]

Posted by Flash (here)
As a French speaking person, I must say that I do find Americans very conservatives, almost to an extreme with sex, being religiously forbidden in one part and yet, absolutely on every television show one may see with all kind of unhealthy inuendos.

You are right about South America, Justoneman, its is much freer, as well as Turkey (believe it or not, lots of Muslim countries are much freer on sex than Americans).

However, I noted something worth mentioning imho. Freer sex is, less responsible men seem to be towards their children - reproduction has not consequences, at least for men. I do not know if I am right or wrong about this, this is a feeling I got while living in Central America.

As for the motesl South American styles, this is true that you get in the room in your car, almost (not always), after huge doors are opened, but I am far from sure that this is always on a volontary basis from the women or children perspective. It is very easy to get someone in and then force them outisde of anyone views or attention. I have also witnessed surely as much violence towards women in Central America as there is in North America for sure..

The "sorry not interested part" is because you were an American men and respected it. Once a woman get into the car of a South American, sorry or not, interested or not, she is in for the rest, willfully or not. She cannot change her mind on the way. If she does, she will get raped most of the time. She had given permission by getting in the car to start with, this is how it is perceived. You are still the woman owned by a man (meaning with no rights by and for yourself), in SA or Middle East, do not forget it when you get there (of course, not aaaalll Central or South American man are like this, but a majority).

However, for a good side or a good point, flirting is part of life in Central/South America and in Turkey as well, and is seen favorably by women as long as respect is also there. Women do not get offended for being openly fliirted and commented on. South American and Turkish women often feel very lost when they come in America and are not openly flirted anymore. They often go depressed thinking they have lost their feminine charm.

Talking here from experience and my South/Central American and Turkish friends comments, friends who are women

You are totally correct about all your points and my post only painted a partial picture - a picture coming from the perspective of a Gringo and a Gringo's experience. You are totally right about how many Latin men somehow have no regard for their children - something I cannot at all understand. My wife, Cristina, is from Medellin. We married 10 years ago. She has a daughter who the father abandoned Cristina days after she told him she was pregnant. I have essentially adopted her daughter and she sees me as her father, an awesome honor.

Another point you make is with regards to the risks a Latina takes in many cases if she goes out with a Latin man - again, not all, but far more the case is true than with Gringos and men from other cultures.

In fact, Cristina as well as several Latinas I have known have told me the same thing you stated. I guess I was just lucky that because I am a Gringo, Latin women were more attracted to me than I experienced in America, and my point was that the programming fed to American society was to blame for the ridiculous dynamic. But you pointed out the additional truths that the Latin world allows men to treat women terribly. Not all Latin men do this, but its far more the cultural norm. In fact, when I was living in Panama, a Latina friend of mine got a job at a bank making about $3,000 a month. I was told that was almost unheard of for a woman and this was just 4 or so years ago. So this problem extends to the work place.

In being even further honest, I have encountered many American males who would enjoy times with prostitutes which I personally have zero issue about. But what I did also notice is most of the American males' attitudes about women in general. Many seemed to carry a chip on their shoulder regarding their experiences with many American women and they extended that to a general viewpoint regarding all women and then they would take out their issues on the poor prostitutes by treating them poorly. I must be unique as I never had anger towards women - I see that for the most part and in most of the world, women have been suppressed and I actually had a chip on my shoulder about males.

What it all boils down to to me is simple but so so hard all over the planet due to the massive programing our cultures put us all through. I remember when I first started waking up - which was back in 2002. I have only recently been able to pull myself together such that I actually like who/what I am. I had to go through hell the past 10 years to undo so much of the BS I realized I had to wake up from. Don't get me wrong, I am still in process and perhaps we all are and we all always will be. Anyways, Flash, thank you for your points as I painted a very incomplete picture.

justoneman

[Arrowwind]

I was skirting a relationship with a man when I lived in Escondido... we were looking each other over over a period of weeks... it was very intense ... he was very attractive to me... I went to his home one time, after invite, and found he already had a wife... and man she was pissed!
Since I had walked a long way to get there and it was quite dark and late, and no one had a car,,,, these were my early hippy days, I spent the night in their tepee... most unconfortably.

It became clear that we were not meant for each other. but I stil saw him frequently for a while even though everything cooled off. we would just talk at the co-op or he would come by to discuss herbal stuff. Then I left that part of the country and didn't see him again.

About 20 years later Im home with my kids, on a weekday afternoon catching glympses of the Oprah show while Im housecleaning... and she is interviewing poligamists.... and my god! there he was! with two of his four wifes, one of which was at the tepee so long ago. Blew my mind!

Plural marriage is a term that is mostly connected with Mormons. It was typical of the mormon faith at one point in history. Still is in their Fundamental fraction of the church that is not accepted by mainstream mormons.... Utal is loaded with poligomy.... they even have a beer called Poligmy Porter.

[mosquito]

This is wonderful reading !

"Sexual" energy is spirit manifest in our bodies and being in harmony with the way it wishes to dance in us is key to happiness and growth.

The repression of our sexuality by religion and increasingly by governments is designed to enslave us. Maybe the vulgar (to me) use of sex in the Western media is simply a response to all the repressed sexuality.

So glad to see this beautiful subject being intelligently and openly discussed.

Love and hugs, Philip

[Simonm]

What a great thread, discussed by great people. This is going some way to explain myself, if only I could be honest with people. I'm just at odds to explain why I feel what I feel.

Thanks.

[Chester]

I have been fortunate. I was able to exit a restrictive relationship and enter into a new, understanding relationship 10 years ago. Via the new dynamic and logistics of the relationship where I was located in one country and my wife was based in another, we had just as much time apart as we had together. Because of these fortunate circumstances as well as my wife's sense of personal self worth combined with the wisdom to know she married a very frisky human male, I was given the following rules.

"Never in the house, definitely never in our bed, never the same girl more than twice and always use a condom." (I happen to have a vasectomy so no fear of pregnancies) Well, as it goes with me I broke all 4 rules many times but what my wife experienced when she was with me was a real man and we have an excellent relationship still today. She appreciates my energy and when we do get together sexually its always great as is equally every other aspect of our relationship.

Understand I am 54 and she is 46 so we aren't kids anymore. But also note she is a Latina from Medellin and didn't have the exposure to the massive programming folks in the USA and some other noted western countries have experienced... programming pounded into them from the media and the conned sheeple/police.

By the way, she certainly has complete freedom to do as she pleases with regards to sex from my own point of view. I would be lying if I did not admit the thought stirs a wee bit of fear, but it is a teenie tiny bit which in some ways perhaps makes the adventure we share all the more exciting. That I could lose her to another man may also be additional motivation in being the best man I can be for her.

One important thing to add. I did meet a young lady about 4 years ago in Panama (another Colombiana) and we met several times and though she was a "professional" we both realized "love" was starting to creep into the picture. At that point I decided I was incapable of sharing that kind of love without taking something away from each one of them and so we never had sex again though we have remained friends. I cannot say this would be the case for another woman or man but in my case, I wasn't interested in sharing that kind of love with another woman other than my wife.

I will also add that it has been less and less important for me to be physically with other women as I get older.

Anyways, I just shared as openly as I can and do not propose to know what is right or wrong for anyone else.

justoneman

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by mariposafe (here)
This is wonderful reading !

"Sexual" energy is spirit manifest in our bodies and being in harmony with the way it wishes to dance in us is key to happiness and growth.

The repression of our sexuality by religion and increasingly by governments is designed to enslave us. Maybe the vulgar (to me) use of sex in the Western media is simply a response to all the repressed sexuality.

So glad to see this beautiful subject being intelligently and openly discussed.

Love and hugs, Philip

I think a little of column A, a little of column B. It's also attempting to isolate us from one another and then sell us back what we now forgot we lost. Specifically society walls off free love/sex with taboo, saying that loving relations must emerge from their Churches or their "dating" rituals. This gives churches and any arbiters of these dating rituals immense social power as they now can deny you access to a companion. (which depending on the person's temperment, isolation will drive you insane if it's done over a long enough period.) This also means people become dependent on these sources for relationships and that now means that they can get power in other areas of your life as well. If you are dependent on needing to have a "Traditional Catholic Marriage" for instance, then you cannot disobey the Catholic church, lest you want to lose your entire family situation. But of course people still want sex so after failing to remove "Sex for pleasure" from the human condition love/sex is debased and marketed in an objectifying way. People are portrayed as objects of desire that must be won against their will in elaborate manipulations done through various dating rituals which all really boil down to getting that other person "hooked' on you or what you can provide to such a point that they won't leave. You have to win people through these rituals of course, entirely because of the censor brigade still outlaws most open public discussion of such things (let alone display, think of the children! ;p) and as such they give the major corporations a way to extract profit by attempting to sell things to people in hopes that these objects will somehow let them "win" at dating.

It's basically an elaborate con, they couldn't destroy Sex for pleasure, so they're still attempting to regulate it for profit/control. If society ever evolved to a point where finding a companion or casual sex became easy then that would destroy a billion dollar market, and we can't have that now can we?! Think of the children...and how much profit they'll bring in when their only choice if they ever want to feel any kind of love is buy things from us?! ;p

[Chester]

What I have discovered about serious sex... is the tantric benefits. In fact, I believe the single most important factor in my own awakening process (still ongoing and hopefully for eternity) in this lifetime has been achieved through sex. Lots of it and with very free and amazing women.

It's is my belief that the intention of the PTBs to control sex as what they do is to suppress one's ability to awaken their kundalini (as it were) such that they might then be able to inhibit transcendence of the kundalini structure as well. I say this because (as we have been discussing in Vivek's thread - A New World Order: Exposing the Luciferian Agenda - )

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...iferian-Agenda

... it has been considered that the "chakra system" may actually be an implementation of the "archontic forces."

So perhaps through tantric sexual practice I have been able to bypass this "system" and discover what I feel is the only important chakra, the heart chakra. And by stating this - I simply drop the word "chakra" and rest with the word, Heart.

But also, by awakening these energy centers, I feel I am able to be on top of the possible entity relationships that might want to slip in and derail me for the purposes of loosh production... and fortunately all they get out of me now is moosh production... haha justoneclown

[Kimberley]

bumping this!!!! Sure would like to have more dialog on this....

[modwiz]

I concur. This is an important thread.

[9eagle9]

At least he didn't say it was an impotent thread.

[Reaver]

This is a repost of a thread I created yesterday when I wasn't aware of this thread's existence. Thanks to Kimberley for bringing this thread to my attention.
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This is a topic which has interested me for quite some time, not just about matters of male or female nor senseless sex. What really interests me is the deeper aspect and the impact sexuality has on human beings. From the potential to use it as a tool for fear and repression to the potential of living a calm life and even improving your health.

The very cosmos seems to carry sexuality in its very fabric. Isn’t a big bang something akin to a cosmic orgasm? the universal womb dancing along the universal light? something like that.

Anyways my first entry on this subject will focus more on the aspect of sexual abuse/repression.

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The way I see it sexual abuse is deeply related to a master-slave relationship. Sexual abuse could be seen as someone forcing another person into sexual activities without their consent or it could be seen as someone trying to control/repress the sexuality of another person. The latter seems to play a big role within families.

I highly recommend the film “Black Swan” because it represents these dynamics in a brilliant manner and I mean the repression and overstimulation of sexuality.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5jaI1XOB-bs

What should be understood is that this can be described as a complex matter. It becomes complex when you start to look beyond the “what happened” and you start to explore the why, the who, the how, the when, etc. In this exercise you will find this goes way further than sexual predators and mere superficial cultural ideas, the monster is a giant octopus, each tentacle is a different area of study.

There are two things which should be core principles when studying the predator mindset and I’m not limiting this to sexual predation. You’ve got this mindset in the workplace, family, sports, religions. Basically the whole culture is frankeinsteined into different types of predators.

Anyways those two core principles are the human psyche and psychopathy. The former will help you understand how you can mold or even make other people follow certain patterns, while the latter can help you understand how this mindsets are set into motion and in fact the person in question doesn’t even have to be a full-blown psychopath to replicate this behaviour.

It should be understood that sexual energy is really powerful, this energy can be used to create healthy bonds or you can use it to literally start a world war. Let’s observe Nature for a while, think of rivers. Rivers have a natural flow, gradually they go on finding their way towards the ocean or a lake.

The time the river transforms or arrives at the ocean or lake could be seen as a moment when the river discharges its energy, this flow may change at some point, but usually it happens at a gradual pace unless the flow is disrupted by some “natural disaster” or if humans come in.

Humans have the ability to distort a river’s natural flow, at times you’ll see this flow being redirected into a dam. For a long time this process may seem harmless, but there are times when things go wrong and you’ll see the mighty dams being destroyed by rivers, this is a consequence of disrupting a natural flow.

Likewise sexual energy is tampered with. There are institutions which will launch their cultural memes to distort this flow and there can also be people who mindlessly adopts these memes. In modern society you can see two main ways to tamper with this energy, one is to repress it and the other one is to overcharge it.

If this energy is repressed for a long enough period of time, then you can see people who gradually start to become neurotic, anxious and very stressed. In fact the body starts to get very tense and it can be quite difficult to relax it. If you want to study cases which are even more extreme, then take a look at armed forces.

You take young men and women and prohibit them to exhibit or engage in any type of sexual activity. The result? extremely stressed men and women who can’t channel this sexual energy in a healthy way, stressed beings who then will be given missions to murder people and they will do it because to an extent it is a way to channel this energy, as toxic as this process may be. In a nutshell you produce people who are very submissive, yet extremely violent if they are put into a dangerous situation.

On the other hand you can overcharge the body with this energy and find release into extreme sexuality. People who go through this process can become quite rebellious, but very aggressive. It is this overstimulation which can lead to machismo, people who won’t bent the knee but will seek to put everyone else down. This is akin to a flood which can destroy a dam, water pouring out from every angle.

Both of these dynamics can produce fascist dictators, some occupy positions of tremendous power. Other’s don’t, but can be found in the average family. One of the problems with modern culture is that both paradigms are being used as ideological bombs, people are encouraged to repress their sexual energy while at the same time they are encouraged to take it to the extreme. Some people are more brutalized than others, but this dynamic seems to be the norm. On the other hand repression or overstimulation can result in self-sadism and/or sadism towards other beings.

Then you can get into the subject of psychopathy. I’d say a great number of these “people” do discharge their energy and aren’t sexually repressed, but since the predator mindset is very “natural” to them, this energy will be taken to the extreme. Perhaps one of the best examples of “sexual psychopathy” is found in the man who was known as the Marquis de Sade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade These people prey at every level of society, from the poor environments to the mega rich environments. There’s no remorse which can hold down these monsters.

Now you could argue about doing an extensive background check and applying punishment to offenders, sexual or otherwise. But this is a tricky area and certainly is one which baffles me when people start to support either of these methods.

You can find yourself in a very precarious situation. Demanding extensive background checks and punishment result in societies who become very paranoid, these kind of mindsets are what lead people to accept Orwellian paradigms and in fact they can splinter communities because no one can trust each other anymore and there are powers who are happy to see this happening and then comes their propaganda machines to further divide society into paranoid groups.

You could also argue that physical punishment is necessary, including dead. But let’s not be quick to forget history. Certainly people would restrain themselves more out of fear, but this sort of practice is something which leads to inquisitions where guilty and innocent people are hanged, burned, chopped, crippled and murdered all the same.

There are powers who would like to see lustful crowds demanding blood in the name of justice, a nice decapitation makes a nice sadistic circus in the city square. I also notice a curious pattern, while some people in the world would like to demand punishment, they think: “Well the system should do it, someone should take care of it”. It is one thing to demand third-party executioners, but being honest who would have the courage and cold blood to administer punishment?

Now I’d like to make this very personal, let’s say someone is set to be publicly executed, whether this person is innocent or not is immaterial, since you are highly convinced of their culpability. So you find yourself demanding justice, but would you walk into the execution spot, look this person into the eyes, let them tell you their story and the proceed to shot them dead, cut their head, slit their throat or whatever while you keep staring into a pair of eyes?.

There are fine lines when it comes to this, the only exception being psychopaths, but they can be hard to spot at times and next thing you know you could have executions under the pretext of “war on psychopathy”. The road is steep.

If you ask me I’d say sexuality is a core element to have a sane psyche and if you pay attention you’ll notice that sexuality is deeply rooted into humanity’s state of decay. The tricky part comes when you try to balance this energy.

[Reaver]

I don't know if this has been brought up already because I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I think that marriage is something closely related to the subject of sexuality. In fact I think that marriage as it is known in its conventional forms is a way to corrupt sexuality and make it toxic. In fact I'll go as far as saying that the idea of a social contract between two, three or fourty people is the result of corrupting an esoteric/philosophical theme which is known as the Chymical Wedding in Alchemy. From such point of view, a wedding is nothing more than an allegory for the integration of various principles found within the human being, an individual ceremony, not a collective one.

Bear with me while I try to give a small occult view on the subject of marriage.

In my own experience, I've learned that many aspects of the cancerous culture somehow are connected to psychological and occult archetypes, not only that but Archetypes seem to be the very same fabric of reality to some extent. As a human being you are able to tap into those Archetypes and then use them to fulfil whatever purpose you may have.

Somehow Archetypes seem to have a trickledown effect and to some extent they dictate the laws which govern X or Y reality, even your very own life. The problem is that most people are so unaware of it, which is a tragedy because I feel that knowing Archetypes can be very empowering. Think of being a software programmer who bit by bit creates a video game.In order to manifest your world in the digital realm you have to establish certain governing principles, the archetypes of your virtual world, now the example is rather simplistic and in fact, the virtual world is nowhere near as complex as what you would call reality.

And so by having in mind Archetypes we can take a dive into the rabbit hole and bring up the subject of the Alchemical Wedding:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WTiSx63E5MM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZD-ORfQIU

So to me it would seem that the Alchemical Wedding is about working on existent principles within one's self to attain “perfection” or rather evolve gradually. Somehow this has trickled-down into the cultosphere and we are left with the idea of marriage and its various cultural permutations and apparently the core theme remains the same: The eternal union between male and female (or “till’ death do us part”), the idea of becoming one, the fusion of principles, the aim for androgyny.

I’ve noticed this cultural pattern: While experiencing an orgasm during sex, a feeling of becoming one with your partner takes place. So what I see taking place is a corrupted simulacrum of something very sacred, perhaps there is a natural longing for an Alchemical marriage, but by being blinded by ignorance and stupidity humans buy the fake and the corrupt which can never fill that spiritual void and of course the social engineers and the occult sorcerers have a hand in all of this.

Marriage was -and still is in some cases- a strategic tool in the grand game of chess, let’s look at the upper class of old: Arranged marriages to consolidate alliances, to consolidate trade, to preserve royalty, to achieve political victories, etc. If you pay attention for a bit you’ll realize that this pattern was/is all over the place, as in all over the planet, isn’t it curious? Yes, marriage as a means to attain power, to bind, to trap people into a social contract. Oh but you see, this social contract has been romanticized through the ages, such romantic crap reached the masses over and over again. It is not uncommon that many times the masses long to become the elite, they want a taste of such... wonderful and fantastic world, so the social engineers noticed what the common folk craved for and granted the masses their wish to a certain extent.

At first the masses could seek a religious contract, nothing fancy but it was a step. Little by little the social engineers went shaping the cultural cancers and we arrive at this day and age. If you have the money, you too can have a marvellous marriage: The wedding, the honey moon (which is an occult theme, just don’t ask me right now what it means because I forgot), the house, the kids, THE HAPPY LIFE UNTIL YOU DROP DEAD. The media will come with the smoke and mirrors and sell you pre-packaged lies.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=plg7Uw9NeDY

“A diamond is forever” so is love and so is marriage. Have you noticed the sorcery in this? Identification works wonders, especially when you can manage the way in which the masses identify themselves with X idea or object. You see, on a very superficial level De Beers was on a marketing mission, to make a large profit with their glorified diamonds... but the deeper aim of this marketing campaign was to put a spell on the masses, social engineering in action, make people buy into and believe the beautiful lies.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JjnPOpRm_aw

The aim of Alchemy is to turn lead into gold. One of the necessary elements to achive such transformation is the Alchemical Marriage or Chymical Wedding. interestingly enough “lead into gold” is interchangeable with “coal into diamond”, and thus the occult message of De Beers is: “We can give you an Alchemical Wedding”. Turn base elements into precious metals... indeed the subtextual message of transmutation is present here. Turn the base impulses or “the lower nature” of humans into a “higher nature”, the awakening of the sky woman or sky man within. Countless dying beings trying to rise by buying a simulacrum of the real thing, a real shame.

From a psychological point of view it's not susprising to see marriages fail, I mean the couple or the group could live under the same roof until they die, but it'll be a meaningless existence, automatons carrying out their duty which is dictated by some twisted social morality and decency. If two or more dissociated beings who are unaware and/or uninterested in eliminating the toxicity within their psyche start a relationship then I'd say such relationship will become cancer sooner or later.

I figure those kind of people lack what I'd call an aunthentic-self product of deprogramming and self-contemplation and they would be quick to adopt what is socially acceptable or cool, thus creating a pseudo-self. However those cool and acceptable memes are the product of social engineers who lack any inner integrity, so people would be adopting lies which have their root in fragmented psyches. A being living with cracks in his/her psyche is doomed to self-destruct in multiple ways if he/she doesn't start to counter the programming and build psychological immunity accordingly.

All in all, modern men and women have marriage as a mask to try and cover their existential angst with dreams of ever lasting happiness and fake love.

[modwiz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
At least he didn't say it was an impotent thread.

Paul generously corrected my intentional misspelling. So much for in the joke.

Would you concur that we can conquer impotency? Little purple pill. I love it. Purple!

Perhaps sex at dawn is too early for some. Nervous system is still half asleep.

[Carmen]

Hmm, sex at dawn. That's often when older men can 'perform'!! That's why I had become a very early riser!! Haha.

[Reaver]

Posted by Modwiz
Would you concur that we can conquer impotency? Little purple pill. I love it. Purple!

I rather purge my impotency with the help of a female and curvilicious Tantric Engineer.