Here and Now...What's Happening?

[ulli]

Posted by Jenci (here)


Prior to my awakening I had no knowledge of chakras and it has not been something I have felt any strong inclination to explore, so for me they have played no significance in this process.


I got this link the other day on chakras by someone offering a different perspective than the norm on chakras

http://www.fw-indigo-adults.com/page...ndChakras.html



Jeanette

Thanks so much for that link, Jeanette. I really welcome that info,
because now a lot of stuff is beginning to make more sense.
Like Waky I have been stuffing myself with knowledge, including New Age knowledge
and not all of it s good for my spiritual health.
Let's see how I fare with this over a period of time.

Here is a quote from the site for those you are not link openers. Let's all be aware of energy vampires.

"In order to understand how the Chakras have been manipulated we collectively need to understand how the manipulation of mind, body and soul works, which is very simple. I can describe this in one word, and that is "COMPARTMENTALIZATION!" This is the preferred methodology of EV's (Energy Vampires) in order to control, manipulate and withdraw energy from external sources. These EV's, which are from all dimensions and realms, use this technique. So the best way to steal a human being's energy is to compartmentalize it. How this was done was by dividing the core into different segments in the body and outside of the body. A lower vibrational entity cannot access a human being's core because of the ultra high frequencies, so the best way to access this pure energy is to use the Chakra system. Having said that, I believe we are all involved in an internal battle. We feel something is wrong internally however we do not know what it is, I think this battle is the fight to keep the Chakras at bay. This is the battle, and the solution for me was to shutdown my Chakras, and totally remove them from my etheric bodies. Prior to me undertaking this huge unique task, I had been experiencing a time in my life where, for no apparent reason, I was feeling dispirited and I just didn't know why. After shutting down my Chakras I have been experiencing remarkable ways of coping with everyday feelings. I believe this recent unearthing will have a profound effect collectively as we come closer to achieving our mission here."

[ulli]

I just received a call from a dear friend of mine who is struggling because business has been so bad.
And this morning when he arrived at his shop he found a dead cat.
It had been placed on his doorstep, strangled, with the cord still around it's neck.
I feel terrible for him...he is a cat lover, and was not even aware that he could have enemies.
Maybe PurpleLama has some advice...please send energies to him.

[Anchor]

Posted by another bob (here)
Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

Total agreement. Gonna re-post something I wrote on The One Truth forum a couple of days ago on a thread about how the way in which chakras have been used to confuse people (imo)

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I have no proof of the statements I make here. It is what I believe to be true.

Chakras are real and they are part of our energy system while incarnate. You do not have much of a choice about that at this point. We chose to incarnate into this world with this system of archetypal structures including the structure of our biochemical bodies and our "higher" energy systems and the resonant structures that keep them co-located.

Chakras only become a problem or a stumbling block on your path when you make them into one!

OMG my chakras!

For most people, they function as silently, naturally and as unconsciously as breathing. With breathing, one can by act of will learn to control breath and temporarily wrestle control from the bodies autonomous programming. In this way, by various methods, one can control energy flow in the body. This may even include the chakra system (and there are many many chakras - most of the time elementary literature concentrates on the spinally aligned ones) - and this is probably enough as the others take their cues from the main ones - so if you are going to work with you chakra system directly, you may as well pick the main ones.

Many people are not aware that they have chakras in their hands - but these were the first ones I became aware of in my early forays into healing. At least if you have seen Barbara Brennan's book you know otherwise - chakras in the hands, chakras in the feet, chakras in the joints - there are lots and lots of chakras. To the those that can see these, we are lit up like well decorated Christmas trees !

Is it important? I don't think so.

Is it a valid path of experience and spiritual discovery? Yes, I think so, but not for me.

It strikes me that most people do not attempt to correct their breathing - I have a basic problem with doing this myself - and is a lot more fundamental than the orderly functioning of the higher energy systems of the body. In most systems of study I have seen it is actually a precursor anyway. The taking of a few "conscious" deep regular breaths before entering into the first stages of meditation is pretty common to all systems; and in my experience essential.

I never did anything to any of my other chakras They exist, but for me it is only an intellectual concept.

Things like this can become exponentially complex, with layers of concepts to challenge the mind of the seeker and tempt with the promise of "accelerated pathways" "easy progress" "shortcuts through the maze". Super disciplined people - the kind who can balance and build stacks of coins on their edge - can do these things, but can anyone, can busy westerners?

Is it practical?

Does it matter?

Is the status of your chakras a stumbling block?

Is the status of your lungs and body any worse of a stumbling block?

What about the mind and the way it operates ?

What about the heart - as an energy center ?

The common thread to all these sciences and practices is meditation. The day someone writes a thread that suggests that meditation is a big psy-ops program that is designed to feed vampires is the day I will know with total authority that misleading bollocks is being spoken! For this thread - can we be as generally certain? I dont really know. For me they are real, but I don't worry about them. I am sure that chakras are important but only for those for whom they are important, and in this way they are important both as potential tools for progress and expansion or potential stumbling blocks. For those for whom they are not important they are not stumbling blocks.
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[astrid]

That dead cat reeks of sorcery to me
Will your friend give the ok for a clean up ??
Or at least a diagnostic ??

I don't like the feel of this at all

[Jenci]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
Satsang with prajnaparamita[/URL]. I hope to get hooked up there.
My search here in Belgium has been fruitless so far.

It's so weird to understand what you and Jenci talk about, yet to be almost unable to resist these side tracks.

The powers to play with are getting stronger and so are the dangers eh?

Hi Waky,

Your honesty in what is going on will serve you well in this process.

The mind/ego is not able to resist the side tracks and distractions because without them it has to die its death - and it will avoid death at all costs!!

This is why it takes disclipline to watch what the mind/ego does and to bring Awareness to it, in self-enquiry. I think I have said to you before, eventually the enquiry will stop because you will just be aware that what is going on is the mind/ego but in the meantime all these circumstances you find yourself in are perfect opportunties to enquire as to who/what is interested in what is going on.

Having said that you can get to the point where enquiry stops, there are still a couple of situations where I can get caught up into believing my mind still and they are when I am physically feeling unwell and concerned with the physical appearance of my body.

I have Multiple Sclerosis so ill health is the norm for me but these days most of the time I pay no attention to it but when I have a very bad day physically it has the power to pull me back into the story of Jeanette and how difficult it is to do basic tasks.

Yesterday was one of those days (solar flares make it worse) and all I wanted to do was crawl into bed and sleep but that's not possible with a child to take care of. Getting pulled back into believing my mind and its story is now very uncomfortable for me but in situations like this where I physically have the sensation that I am the body, I have to make an extra effort to do enquiry to free the indentification with the body.

It only takes a couple of questions to realise that I cannot find a person who is suffering from ill health. I can find a body but not a person and in the results of that enquiry the "suffering" dissolves, yet I am aware that the condition of the body continues.

The other situation which will have the power to pull me back unconscious into body/mind identification is my physical appearance.

At the moment it is my hair. It is currently blonde but was very bright red for those who remember my previous avatar. My hair has been pushed to its limits with chemicals and bleach and it has had enough. I need to dye it brown and grow out the coloured hair but my mind likes the blonde and wants to keep it. I've spent many, many hours of thought over this.

Yesterday while I was laid up in bed, I spent about an hour watching Youtube videos of people dying their blonde back to brown. If all this story about my hair is boring you, trust me it bores me silly too !

The obsessive ,compulsive, grasping of the mind is very unpleasant.....and it is hanging on even though my hair is breaking off I have an urge to take out the clippers and just shave all my hair off so I don't have to think about it any more.

But really that is not the solution because the mind will just grasp something else 'physical' so it can maintain its identification with the person called Jeanette. It's lost so many of its attachments, so it will cling on for dear life to anything it can.

The compulsions are part of the process. Bypassing or avoiding them by trying to reason with the mind will not free body/mind identification; it will just set up camp elsewhere. I have learned that these distractions and obsessions of the mind at the Grace that I need. What is key is Awareness and bringing that Awareness into the compulsion with no resisting of the compulsion as it is given free expression.

I love this quote from Jon Bernie, it's says how I feel about it, although riding the wave is pariticularly pleasant

In the end one rides the wave because one knows that this is how the process works ~ Jon Bernie.



I'm glad you have booked up for the satsang. I would just suggest you keep relaxed and open about what or who it will lead you to. I agree with what Bob says that having someone to show you where you are deluding yourself is good as there are many places to get stuck on this process and develop a spiritual ego, rather than awaken from it.

In the early days I was desperate for a teacher and ended up going to a non-duality meeting in London. I was really pinning my hopes on finding someone there who knew what I was going through. I felt terribly isolated, lonely and lost, trying to make sense of all the things that were happening.

I found the meeting no help at all and I couldn't find anyone there and I left the building crying. I walked to the station, crying. I got on the train crying. I came home, I was still crying.

Do you know what I learned in the end? I got exactly what I needed and by getting out of the way and letting life provide, I've realised that this process works quicker.


Jeanette

[Sierra]

Jenci,

Thank you big time for that link. Now I can ignore my chakras without feeling guilty about it ... I've always focused on the heart.

I have a Tibetan Buddhist friend who taught me to shut down my solar plexus chakra if I am in a dysfunctional situation, picking up garbage that does not belong to me. It works, most definitely.

The heart is the heart of the matter lol.

Ulli, I'm so sorry to hear what happened to your friend. I am assuming since you brought it up, that the Village can help?

Sierra

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

I thought the same thing, Astrid. Ulli, that's definitely PurpleLama territory. I'm sure he'll chime in when he has the opportunity to do so.

For a really great viusualtization of the torsion field generator that is our DNA, check out today's APOD:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjPcT1uUZiE

[Eram]

Thank you for the elaborate post Jeanette.
There is something that I have difficulty understanding with and I will get back on that when I have more time.

Will you make a new avatar when you decide to shave it all?


Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.



Hard to imagine people strangling those lovely animals.
I hope your friends find some answers Ulli.

[meeradas]

Jenci, excellent last post [and no shaving please].
Waky, excellent new avatar.
We're scorching towards 18K, and it won't be me.
Peace=you.

[PurpleLama]

Sorcery was my immediate thought, as well. Astrid as the pro in this department, it's her advice/assistance I would seek, were something of this nature directed toward me. My experience with hoo doo and voo doo mostly stem from a few serious practitioners I am fortunate enough to be friends with.

[ulli]

Posted by Jenci (here)




In the early days I was desperate for a teacher and ended up going to a non-duality meeting in London. I was really pinning my hopes on finding someone there who knew what I was going through. I felt terribly isolated, lonely and lost, trying to make sense of all the things that were happening.

I found the meeting no help at all and I couldn't find anyone there and I left the building crying. I walked to the station, crying. I got on the train crying. I came home, I was still crying.

Do you know what I learned in the end? I got exactly what I needed and by getting out of the way and letting life provide, I've realised that this process works quicker.


Jeanette

WOW,
This triggered memories of being a seeker in London.
The group thing there didn't work for me at all, and the only fruitful teaching sessions I ever had
were one on one with a teacher. I had a great Gurdjieff teacher, a wise old man, and will be forever indebted to him.
He also had group gatherings in his large house off High Street Kensington, but never allowed me to participate. I could not understand why not, especially since the Gurdjieff teachings were all about group stuff. But now I can see why he kept me away.

Yet I was always longing for a group...knowing deep inside that group/team formation and participation was the message of this age.
So once I arrived in Barbados in 1982 I found my first group, the Self Realization Fellowship, based on Yogananda's teachings.
I had recently read 'Autobiography of a Yogi' and was guided straight there..
It was a meditation group, all the members were male professionals, doctors and lawyers, and I was the only female and besides, the only white person there.
So every Sunday evening at 5 pm I attended a one-hour meditation, with no social chit chat allowed. I left when I found the Bahais- at least there was a more diverse group, even though whites were still the minority. But there were children, women, rich and poor, young and old.

Humans have had endless instructions for thousands of years on how to find balance as an individual, but none really on social integration.
For a group to function it has to avoid the extremes of uniformity at the one hand and selfish insistence on eccentricity on the other.
Not demand that a person gave up their individuality, yet look at whatever would benefit the whole group.
Because only the individual has a connection to Source, through their heart.
An organization that demands that individuals give up their sovereignty becomes diabolical in the end.

Bahaullah said it, even though you are not reminded of that in Bahai circles these days:

O SON OF SPIRIT!
My first counsel is this:
Possess a pure, kindly and radiant heart,
that thine may be a sovereignty
ancient, imperishable and everlasting.

[PurpleLama]

as for chakras, I would get behind what anchor has to say a lot faster than I would the article posted earlier.

[another bob]

Posted by Jenci (here)
The mind/ego is not able to resist the side tracks and distractions because without them it has to die its death - and it will avoid death at all costs!!

This is why it takes disclipline to watch what the mind/ego does and to bring Awareness to it, in self-enquiry. I think I have said to you before, eventually the enquiry will stop because you will just be aware that what is going on is the mind/ego but in the meantime all these circumstances you find yourself in are perfect opportunties to enquire as to who/what is interested in what is going on.

Continued gratitude for your sharing of hard-won wisdom, and for your courage, honesty, and compassion, Sister!

[Falcor]

Posted by Anchor (here)
I have no proof of the statements I make here. It is what I believe to be true.

Chakras are real and they are part of our energy system while incarnate. You do not have much of a choice about that at this point. We chose to incarnate into this world with this system of archetypal structures including the structure of our biochemical bodies and our "higher" energy systems and the resonant structures that keep them co-located.

Chakras only become a problem or a stumbling block on your path when you make them into one!

OMG my chakras!

For most people, they function as silently, naturally and as unconsciously as breathing. With breathing, one can by act of will learn to control breath and temporarily wrestle control from the bodies autonomous programming. In this way, by various methods, one can control energy flow in the body. This may even include the chakra system (and there are many many chakras - most of the time elementary literature concentrates on the spinally aligned ones) - and this is probably enough as the others take their cues from the main ones - so if you are going to work with you chakra system directly, you may as well pick the main ones.

Many people are not aware that they have chakras in their hands - but these were the first ones I became aware of in my early forays into healing. At least if you have seen Barbara Brennan's book you know otherwise - chakras in the hands, chakras in the feet, chakras in the joints - there are lots and lots of chakras. To the those that can see these, we are lit up like well decorated Christmas trees !

Is it important? I don't think so.

Is it a valid path of experience and spiritual discovery? Yes, I think so, but not for me.

It strikes me that most people do not attempt to correct their breathing - I have a basic problem with doing this myself - and is a lot more fundamental than the orderly functioning of the higher energy systems of the body. In most systems of study I have seen it is actually a precursor anyway. The taking of a few "conscious" deep regular breaths before entering into the first stages of meditation is pretty common to all systems; and in my experience essential.

I never did anything to any of my other chakras They exist, but for me it is only an intellectual concept.

Things like this can become exponentially complex, with layers of concepts to challenge the mind of the seeker and tempt with the promise of "accelerated pathways" "easy progress" "shortcuts through the maze". Super disciplined people - the kind who can balance and build stacks of coins on their edge - can do these things, but can anyone, can busy westerners?

Is it practical?

Does it matter?

Is the status of your chakras a stumbling block?

Is the status of your lungs and body any worse of a stumbling block?

What about the mind and the way it operates ?

What about the heart - as an energy center ?

The common thread to all these sciences and practices is meditation. The day someone writes a thread that suggests that meditation is a big psy-ops program that is designed to feed vampires is the day I will know with total authority that misleading bollocks is being spoken! For this thread - can we be as generally certain? I dont really know. For me they are real, but I don't worry about them. I am sure that chakras are important but only for those for whom they are important, and in this way they are important both as potential tools for progress and expansion or potential stumbling blocks. For those for whom they are not important they are not stumbling blocks.
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thank you for your post. i would like to think your post has made me well aware of your perspective. but i would like to humbly suggest that perhaps you have placed a limit on yourself with your beliefs, for your belief seems to reflect your experience. there are many stumbling blocks on the way, the mind also being one of them. im certainly not suggesting i have all the answers, but i will share some brief food for thought.

the gnostic teachings are geared toward the study of the archetypes of our universe. it is taught in the tree of life, astrology, and egyptian ways of initiation that in all manifestations, everything on earth is linked by the four elements. there is nothing on this earth that has not manifested in this way, otherwise manifestation would not be possible at all. you are made of fire, water, air and earth. fire representing the fatherly, the will, consciousness, pride etc. water representing feelings and emotion, air representing intellect and reason, earth representing motherly, birth to life, change, material plane..... blah blah..... yes, it goes much deeper....

point being. in these studies, true self realization is not to simply become aware that 'i am'. im sure everyone on this forum who has come to this realization has also realized that it has not become a permanent state. true self realization is to become conscious of these forces within ourselves and the world around us. when we become conscious of the our full manifested nature, only then are we conscious enough to control these forces, and fully able to manifest our god consciousness into this world. as above, so below. we are taught that all is one, the umanifest and the manifest. so.....if we arent enlightened here, how are we to be enlightened there?

the attempt to 'know thyself' through the distortions of intellect and reason is only to use 1/4 of your being. our intellect is a great tool, but the moment you use it, it also puts you one step away from experiencing and feeling. to understand our energy and feelings simply cannot be done by the intellect. the intellect is too quick to assume it knows what were feeling, to label our feelings, to judge our feelings. one must learn to sit and feel their own energy from beyond the mind. this is to utilize the watery aspects that are manifested into your very being to your advantage! you will find that anything you place your conscious awareness on changes. life is energy in motion, and 'god' is in that experience. i believe there is much to be learned there, should you choose to take that path.

at the end of the day i acknowledge we are all here to have a unique experience and a unique way back home. in the meantime, i think it is wise to not put limits on ourselves by believing in something that would put a limit on our experience. we are all unlimited, and limited only by that which we consciously choose to be.

much love
falcor

[Jenci]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
Thank you for the elaborate post Jeanette.
There is something that I have difficulty understanding with and I will get back on that when I have more time.

Will you make a new avatar when you decide to shave it all?


Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.



Hard to imagine people strangling those lovely animals.
I hope your friends find some answers Ulli.

There will be no shaving of the hair ....but it does go to show the lengths the mind will go to to alleviate its suffering.

The loss of fear in this process does not happen in the linear fashion one would expect. I have lost the fear of death. I mean, why would I be frightened of death when I know that I was never born anyway, so can't die.

But fear of a bad hair day ??

That's still here. Don't ask me how this works


I love the pic of your cat.
Jeanette

[ulli]

Here and Now...
I don't want to mess with the conversation going on in another room
so I'm expressing it here:
'As above- so below' is one of my main mottos.
So I see this universe as an infinite number of fractals,
with the smaller and larger ones connected to each other via vortexes.

Each fractal is like a room in a house and the corridors, or doorways, are the vortexes.
Connecting links.
Each room has different objects, each fulfilling a purpose, yet different in size and importance.
A bedroom has a bed, but also a variety of tables, storage area, lights, curtains for privacy....
anyway, none of these objects are equal, yet they each fulfill a function.
Ok Im rambling. Bear with me.

Here is another fractal: the human body, or vehicle.
From a medical standpoint there are different parts, each with their function.
Heart , brain, eyes, hands, and also more dispensable parts, like the appendix, hair, toe nails.
So there are different purposes and levels of importance.
A cell in an eye is higher in rank than a cell in a toe nail.
There is no absolute equality, no two cells are ever the same.

So let's say Avalon is a fractal, like a mini universe. Let's compare it to the human body for a moment...
Which part does Bill play, and his moderator team?
Anyone who is fixed on the idea of total equality will put Bill in here as an equal,
and challenge him on every decision he makes.
And some do so regardless of the issues involved...
Simply as an excercise to take up battle with authority.
I guess their faulty self image demands it, which functions on the foundation of
self importance.
Keeping their mouths shut would be seen as betraying
their fixed idea of absolute equal partnership.
No respect for the chain of command at all.
What's with that?
For intelligent people to have such perverse notions.
Yes, to me it looks perverse. Why don't they just leave?
What are their motives?
I think it's because there is a hidden paradox...
A basic misunderstanding regarding hierarchy and levels of higher and lower order.

Bill is the heart of Avalon, and is bending over backwards to accommodate everyone
for the sake of fairness and equality. But as the founder member he can draw the line and say,
Ok, I'll be fair, but only up to a point. At that point the damaging energy needs to be flushed down a vortex to the next lower denser fractal where it belongs, due to it's own frequency of vibration. That's following higher cosmic laws.
He is doing his job at maintaining the fractal and thus keeps the vortexes, those that lead to the higher as well as the lower fractals, unblocked.
Which is how it should be if balance is to be maintained.

[Mark]

I've noticed that as well, Ulli, regarding the challenges based upon ego.

So much to comment on ...

... been sleeping terribly the last couple of nights, guess it has to do with the solar flares, as everyone is commenting on. It's been noticeable because previous to that my slumber has been quite peaceful, which is surprising as I am a lifelong insomniac. These must have been some flares.

Been doing my sun-gazing the last couple of days, continuing to remark upon the quality of light, it is so brilliant, those who say we are under a new sun have to be on to something because it certainly feels different.

Too much knowledge, too many books, too much thinking. I've read and read and read and contemplated and synthesized information for 25 years pertaining to spirituality and mysticism. I have a head full of organizations and hiearchies and entities and powers and principalities and in the end, none of it matters. It is the stuff of dreams. The silence matters. The stillness. That which is our original and final resting state, the beginning and the end. Not even the discussions matter, case in point, this one regarding chakras.

I was in that discussion with Anchor at ToT and my contribution is in alignment with l. mysticah's. We are first and foremost energy bodies with no chakras. Chakras are foreign installations designed to make it easier for ultradimensionals to partake of their favorite human energy flavors. If the human body has been bio-engineered as so many have said, our genetics painstakingly chosen by entities who themselves may have been guided by higher dimensional entities, it only makes sense if that is so. I'm not a fan of Georgi Stankov past the point that he speaks in detail about the light body process and the unification of the chakra system as a condition of individual spiritual evolution.

That interview with Kelly La Sha was great. She raised a lot of important points that are overlooked. She talked about the importance of getting control of your emotions and dealing with your issues in order to clear yourself and how that is a fundamental thing to do before you can even think about moving higher in any sort of ascension process. She talked about how all of the ascension timelines and possibilities that everyone is talking about, from moving up to 5D to a shift in earths, higher vs catastrophic, to pole shifts and earth changes, may have more to do with different soul groups than one overall reality that everyone must experience. One soul group may have access to one type of future scenario, another may have access to another type. She and Lisa had a good discussion about this possibility. Definitely worth the time listening to it ...

Jenci, I think a bald head would be quite a nice look for you. I think you could get away with it. Or, maybe just leaving a shock of brown hair at the top and front.

[meeradas]

Posted by Jenci (here)
But fear of a bad hair day ??

That's still here. Don't ask me how this works

Amazing, ridiculous; isn't it. What a rascal.

[1inMany]

It isn't real? Well, what is real? This is some kind of game? Who is having the fun? A line of Angels on my right, a monk-looking dude on my left. Are they real? My child clinking a glass with a spoon. Is that real? I have hurt my shoulder. Is that real? I'm supposed to be completely embedded here, or was at some point. And feeling angry is somehow ungrateful. Is the anger real? Or is the appearance of being ungrateful real? Now, I'm supposed to let go of every single thing I have ever known. I'm trying here, ok? Is this effort real? Is it not enough? Is this fear real? I am to embrace what is real. Jump off the edge and fly in the real. Are these wings real? What I can see is not real, but if I see it in another sense it is real. I have thrown out just about everything I have held as sacred at some point. What is left? I'm doing the best I can, here. The energy, that is real. The light is real. How can that be real when it is used for that which is not real? How can what is not real use what is real, or why? If this world is not real, how can other things real be infused?



Please pass the tissue...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
The chakras are as unreal, or as real, as the body itself. See? We have various glands throughout the body that are the physical conduits for these energy centers, and the energies are only so strong as these glands are healthy. The point that bob is making, I think, is that when one disassociates from phenomena into the pure awareness of what we really are, which is pure awareness, well, awareness doesn't need for chakras any more than it needs for any other element. If one is working with another person in some mode of healing, knowledge of chakras and the experience of working with them is a basic element of many of these modalities.

- PL, yes, yes! Brilliant!

- Ulli, delicious fractal post.

- Rahkyt, I watched the Kelly La Sha twice. I'm planning on one more go, and I downloaded her eBook yesterday and read one chapter.

"...I am sure that chakras are important but only for those for whom they are important, and in this way they are important both as potential tools for progress and expansion or potential stumbling blocks. For those for whom they are not important they are not stumbling blocks."

- Anchor, yes, yes!

- For those interested in chakras: “Vibrational Medicine,” by Richard Gerber is a good source.