What does it mean - BE Christian?

[ljwheat]

Posted by Revere (here)
For me it is to strive with all your heart to be Christ like in your relationship with mankind and your journey in loving God with all your heart, mind and soul as He loves us unconditionally. So, yes I fall short and I am not where I want to be but thank god I am not where I use to be. It is a growing process.
Denominations and "religiousness" are just mankind and evil mudding up the waters for their self oriented purposes. God cannot be put in a box and he wants a relationship with each one of us. No one can really know until they seek Him. This is my journey so far.

Peace my friends,
-R-

I would say your exactly were you need to be,, with the living God thats in your heart, were the holy spirit can guide you, not a book of writtles ment for the people of that time, before the book was put together by a King. John xoxo

[kreagle]

********************** DISTANCE**********************

The above word goes a "long way" in depicting whether one is "Christian",.....or whether they are, in fact,....a "perimeter christian".

It's those who try to "follow Christ at a distance",..(the perimeter christian),...who wind up sullying the term "Christian" that we have been discussing here in this post/thread.

Such was the case, as recorded in "all four Gospels", of Peter's attempt to follow Jesus "afar off" due to his "fear of being persecuted". We even see Peter "warming himself by the fire" as he was secretly attempting to "follow and keep up with the Lord". Surely, those today who attempt to replicate the footsteps of Peter, here, will likewise find themselves "cold and indifferent" to what's going on around them. The inevitable end to one who endeavors to "follow Jesus at such a distance,......the perimeter christian, so-to-speak,"......will be one of denial, as we see so clearly in the case of Peter. (Mt. 26:69, Mk. 14:68, Lk. 22:56, Jn. 18:17)

It's clearly the "perimeter christian",....the one who follows Him at the "outermost limits" who "garners most of the attention",....especially from an "unsaved world". It's this type of individual who sullies what otherwise should be a "pure concept" with the term "Christian".

Of course, thankfully in the case of Peter, he went on to "fully recognize his error",....and from this point on you would find Peter on "the front line" in his service to our Lord, Jesus Christ. Never again would he shun any potential persecution for his dear Master,....as he became the "key spokesman" to usher in the "Church Age" with his message of salvation,.....for "all ages to come". (Acts 2: 37-39)

It's really rather easy to tell who is the "real Christian" and who "is not"!

Just "measure the distance",.......between,......."them and God"!!!


Your friend, brother, and servant...............kreagle

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
Judge people by their actions, not their title of words they speak. "...faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead." James 2:17.

One of my most preached philosophies .. didn't know it was in the bible

I like to say that enlightenment can only be reached when your thoughts AND your words AND your actions are all in perfect alignment with your true or higher self - which is the mechanism where service to self becomes service to all, duality is lost to holiness (wholly-ness).
When this point is achieved, the Christ consciousness can enter the driver's seat.

This isn't a "Christian" thing but a "Human" thing that some who know of this well (certain elite groups), fear because they see the Christ Consciousness as an "alien" of sorts and see this event as some sort of alien takeover of the human mind. This is how the fearful ego sees this process. This is their war against "God" -- to prevent the "second coming" (to loosely use the term); with this in mind, all the media control, food control, drug control, fluoridation (debilitation of the pineal gland), chemtrails etc., begins to make even greater sense.

Getting a bit off topic I think, but there's some food for thought!

[bogeyman]

Yes your words and thinking must be in alinement with the creator, once that is achieved no more wars, corruption, hate, lie etc will exist. Your spirit and thinking is in is in alinement with the creator, I know this. I wish I you could understand what I know from my experiences.....what do you know of the spiritual eye?

[Revere]

Saving this world and humanity is an inside job, one that takes doing inside each one of us by developing a close relationship of Trust and Love with God through Jesus Christ. Yes, God may have many ways of reaching us for me it is Jesus. But, we must reach Him and actively commune with Him. This act changes a Man from the inside out and can be the catalyst for changing the world.

peace,
-R-

[efields]

It means your ASLEEP Bigtime.

[wynderer]

i am always hesitant to call myself a Christian -- that's a high standard to live up to, to be as Christ

i see it rather as that i am one who has been blessed by/thru several personal encounters/meetings w /Jesus the Living Christ -- i have tried to convey in other posts on Avalon that to be in His presence is to be in the presence of such great Power, & such great & tender Love -- i have never dared raise my eyes to His

also, i am an abductee -- Linda Moulton Howe & other researchers into ETs/UFOs have noted that all ETs seem to have something to say about Jesus -- not about the Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, etc -- just Jesus

in my own readings re this, i see the pattern of denying the Incarnation, Crucifixion, & Resurrection

i am learning that, instead of trying to live as He did, instead to ask that He work thru me -- trusting Him, not myself -- i don't seem to do such a good job by myself

i pray sometimes to Jesus, & sometimes to the Creator -- Jesus said that the Father was greater than He

i love this song

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JEvy8mROAj0

[Beren]

Posted by efields (here)
It means your ASLEEP Bigtime.

I would agree if you find yourself a devoted religious member of any church.
Note that I say religious...

Usually Christ is for them as Spanish villages for others...sad but true.

[Meesh]

"Christianity" is a mental formation that was created to control others. I just try to follow the teachings of Jesus.

[kreagle]

Posted by Revere (here)
Saving this world and humanity is an inside job, one that takes doing inside each one of us by developing a close relationship of Trust and Love with God through Jesus Christ. Yes, God may have many ways of reaching us for me it is Jesus. But, we must reach Him and actively commune with Him. This act changes a Man from the inside out and can be the catalyst for changing the world.

peace,
-R-

Hey Revere,

You have an "enormous amount of truth" compacted into that 'very short' paragraph you've shared with us, my dear friend. 'Methinks' we all need to 'hear much more from you! My daddy had a rather humorous saying that he directed towards me, when I was a young teenager working on our dairy farm. If I ever came up with a 'smart idea' that my daddy liked, he would say,......"a boy that knows that much should be whipped and made to tell more!". Don't make us have to come find, and round you up, with a 'whip'!

Just kidding,.....really enjoyed that 'insight',.....and right on, brother!

we must reach Him and actively commune with Him

Colossians 3:16-17
King James Version (KJV)

16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.


I know this sounds 'absurd' to the 'unlearned',....but how much better off would the whole world be if 'everything they did' was, indeed, 'done in the name of the Lord Jesus'?

That's what being 'spirit-filled' will do for you,......for you will become acutely aware of the 'power that's behind that wonderful name of Jesus'.


Thanks, brother!,...........kreagle

[ljwheat]

Just before my birth the spirit that birthed with me, this orb of light and love that allowed my fist heart beat, and took my first breath of this world I was complete, I am still complete, this orb of energy light and love is with me now and for ever more. I was never with out it. I would not exist with out the spirit that’s complete weather I fail to look at it or not its always with me.

This is the good news Christ was talking about, this gift that is complete in everyway will never leave you or forsake you.

And not to look on life as being life, for those who try to save it will loose it. Loosing the physical life I’m complete in spirit and hole with out the body;-- Christians don’t seem to get that,--- instead look for a blessed physical life on earth.

Its not a showing or doing, or a preaching. For unless you become as this little child, you shall not see your father witch art in heaven. -- Heaven is in you, ---the heaven’s plural is out side of you. Keep looking out here for religious answers. And he will declare I never knew you too.

Yesterday, today and forever I have been complete as I AM. In the holy spirit I birthed with-- I am complete.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eh8Hp_CChdo

I,m complete. weather or not in or out of 3D matrix. words and there use are the biggest trick that keep one locked up in religion. to many tabboo's. in a Christians mind of code enforcements. the eternal in turnal spirit has no boundrys. its complete. COMPLETE !

[Beren]

Posted by Revere (here)
For me it is to strive with all your heart to be Christ like in your relationship with mankind and your journey in loving God with all your heart, mind and soul as He loves us unconditionally. So, yes I fall short and I am not where I want to be but thank god I am not where I use to be. It is a growing process.
Denominations and "religiousness" are just mankind and evil mudding up the waters for their self oriented purposes. God cannot be put in a box and he wants a relationship with each one of us. No one can really know until they seek Him. This is my journey so far.

Peace my friends,
-R-

Beautifully said!

One is Christed or is Christian when is a walking catalyst of God's light and love.
In everyday's life on whole Earth. Above religions of all kind ...

[ljwheat]

Christianaty, or religion will not let you listen to this or yourself. this is pointing at the holy spirit that you are.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zzB5DXopVs8

[bogeyman]

Do meaning or words really matter? You are this you this you are that? Is it not a question of understanding of the creator and teaching, not individual interpretations?

[Revere]

kreagle...thank you for your kind words. But, I can only really contribute as 'the Spirit" moves me on these issues. I will repeat this and that is...LOVE is the key for all of mankind! Real Love with "Pure motives".

36"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Matt. 22:36-38

This is the inside job I was referring too for humanity to be successful.

Peace and God help us,

-R-

[kreagle]

Posted by Beren (here)

Posted by efields (here)
It means your ASLEEP Bigtime.

I would agree if you find yourself a devoted religious member of any church.
Note that I say religious...

Usually Christ is for them as Spanish villages for others...sad but true.

Beren, my dear brother,.....

I really wish everyone was as blessed, as I currently am, to have access to a 'wonderful church atmosphere' like I have. It would certainly change a lot of opinions about 'being a devoted religious member' if they were. Now, don't get me wrong,...because I fully understand where you are 'coming from' and have been a 'first-hand witness' to some disgusting examples that you are referring to here.

Is the 'Church I'm attending perfect'?,......no it's not! Do we have some of those 'perimeter Christians' that I referred to in my previous post?, ( #42),....yes, a few! The lesson I have learned, through all of this, is that when I get my eyes 'off of them,....and on to Him', then I'm truly able to be a 'totally devoted religious member' to my church.

Don't take your 'eyes off the Prize'!, my friends. Peter had a 'little boating incident' where he 'made this mistake',.....which led to him 'sinking before the Lord'! Good thing he was 'close enough to Him to be saved'!

Just because someone hasn't found a 'perfect fit' for their personal church, yet, doesn't mean that 'they don't exist'. They are, indeed, out there, somewhere,.....you've just got to pray and ask God to, once again, 'lead you in the right direction'. (Remember,...."Seek and ye shall find,.....knock and it shall be opened unto you?")

We 'all' desperately need a solid 'church environment' for proper spiritual growth!

Hebrews 10:24-25
King James Version (KJV)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.


Your brother, friend, and servant.........kreagle

[kreagle]

Posted by Meesh (here)
"Christianity" is a mental formation that was created to control others. I just try to follow the teachings of Jesus.

Hey Meesh,

You know, your statement, here, caused me to do 'a little more studying' about this, in reference to the term 'Christian'. I have explained on this particular thread, as 'others' have done also, that I'm not particularly comfortable being called, or orally identifying myself as,....a 'Christian' for the many reasons that have been brought out on this thread. I already knew 'part of the reason' why I felt that way,....because of the 'black eye' that normally came along with this 'religious identity'! I believe that I may have 'stumbled upon' some 'new evidence',...(at least it's new to me),....as to why it is so 'negatively viewed' by the vast majority of the 'world'!

You see, it was in reality, a totally 'unsaved world',....a 'non-christian people',.....who actually were the ones, in the first place, to 'coin the phrase Christian' to begin with! It apparently was never a 'God ordained identification for His people' to begin with. No wonder there has been 'so much trouble' with the usage of this 'term' in light of this obvious view!

Notice this passage,.....once again!,......

Acts 11:25-26
King James Version (KJV)

25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:

26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

It certainly appears from 'this passage' that it was the 'outsiders,...non-Christians', who 'came up with and coined the phrase Christian' to begin with. After they had observed the work of Barnabas and Saul,....for the span of a year,....teaching much people,....and recognizing their, (Barnabas and Saul's), connection with Christ,.....they simply came up with the 'term', Christian, meaning 'one with Christ', to identify the disciples with.

You see,....as indicated in your 'short post',.....Christianity, (the term), was created by man!!

'Our Creator, (God), did not create the 'term' Christianity!

'Wisdom' tells me that 'only the Creator can create!',.....everything else will falter and fail!

This 'term' came 'from outside of the Church',.....'not from within'!!!

In light of this, it's no wonder that this 'term' is so sparsely used, (only three times), in the entire Bible! (Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, and 1 Peter 4:16). It certainly appears that 'believers in the early Church' never fully 'warmed up to the term, Christian,...or Christianity',......which logically explains why so many 'believers today,...including me',.....are also 'cold on the idea, too'!

At least, that's how I see it!

Your brother, friend, and servant.........kreagle

[Jules]

Thank you spiritguide. This is the true meaning of Christian, not a religious label to buy into. I remember I did a kind deed, and my brother-in-law (a self proclaiming Christian) commented on it, and I stated my religion influenced me to do it. He then thought I had joined a cult or something, and asked what is your religion? I stated Christian, and he didn't know how to take that, because he goes to church two or three times a week, and I don't. It is better you treat people with kindness, than to push religion in their face. Gandhi stated "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians." Don't think if you go to Christian church that you are better, God loves all humanity.

[ljwheat]

Waking up, or getting the mud out of ours eye's is hard to do if the mud is religion.

Teach a Man To Fish, and you won’t have to feed him religion for the rest of his life. Going to the river of life, that’s in you, rather than the river of words outside of you in religion. The mud will crumble away. Its not a doing, but a being --- At The River Of Life that’s in you. Drink of this and I will say I know You.


John xoxo

[ljwheat]

George, may be raw, but has alot of truth IMO.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UwVUyToN5Rg