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    Hi my name is Mike Tate aka Veritus. I'm an American Independent Researcher/Journalist living in Warsaw, Poland at the moment. I left the states due to my own personal reasons as well as the overwhelming amount in evidences of corruption within our media and government. The truths I began to uncover over the years eventually led to the diminishing patriotism I once held so high. The things I discovered in my role of military intelligence were things I could not turn my back on, and eventually led me down a rabbit hole that just went deeper and deeper. They eventually led to things that my heart refused to be a part of and I could no longer turn my back on what I now know has become of my country. There are many things I can not say...but in my vow of truth, there are many more things, than that of those, that I can and will say. I loved America. And I still love the American people with all my heart. But our country has become a virtual prison of disinformation and deception. We have unknowingly let our leaders create an infrastructure of lies and have failed to heed the pleas of Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy and countless others who have tried to warn us of the very real threat of what has sadly become the reality they feared. I urge all of you who know these words to be true, please post any content you can and help our beloved and true American brothers and sisters to wake up and remove this seemingly ironclad veil of dishonor that has been thrown over their eyes. I honestly don't know if anything can be done about it at this point, even the bleak glimpses of hope seem to be bubbled around some hidden form of propaganda or misleading silver lining. Noone knows what to believe these days. But I'd like to believe that hope does exist and that change is at least possible, even if to somehow begin ways in moving forward that could amount to any degree of difference.

    This is a real American, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Please listen to what he has to say. He is fighting an uphill battle and losing. But at least he is fighting and saying what needs to be said for the good of any feasible decent future in America:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8p-K7X99I
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    Thank you for the thread. All is not lost at this point and the group known as Oath Keepers is defending the rights and liberties of the people. They will defend the spirit of the founding fathers and their Constitution at all costs as per their oath.

    The things I discovered in my role of military intelligence were things I could not turn my back on, and eventually led me down a rabbit hole that just went deeper and deeper. They eventually led to things that my heart refused to be a part of and I could no longer turn my back on what I now know has become of my country.

    The above statement taken from your text denotes you took the same oath and detects you know of treasonous activities/ illegalactivities or otherwise un-constitutional goings on. If so please share these with a modicum of evidence and help your brothers and sisters you left behind to defeat the evil.

    Awaiting your reply respectfully, you got my attention!


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    Hi spiritguide. Thank you for taking an interest. No, it's a bit different for me. While I despise the deception and evil that is being done and who is doing them, the reaches of the Military/Industrial complex is not only confined to the physical boundaries of America, but they are, as of now, a prevalent global super-force that dominates air, land, sea, and space. I cannot risk the safety of my family. I have 4 children in my household. I hope you understand. This is still a public forum. My goal will never be to attack them directly, that is indescribably futile. My goal is rather to enlighten the American public and global civilization in general. And my role was not in intelligence directly, it was one of those indirect avenues in which the intelligence sectors derived their data from us. I am, however, willing to come forth and speak with anyone in person about any knowledge I have that violates the Constitution of the United States of America. That I did pledge to adhere to and will always uphold. Just realize that this is sensitive territory and not necessarily the correct approach, as it has failed many times before.
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    Veritus, I understand completely where you come from, and I respect that. Maybe you should private message Bill and interview with him personally in private. He is a judicious person for sure. Take care !

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    If he would like that would be fine with me. For now I'm not too busy to keep posting things that fall in line with the findings of my research...
    Here's what I believe to be the most accurate diptiction of reality concerning one small but important aspect of this issue:

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...=rAQFj_kMp&s=1

    Not sure if the noise in the background was created intentionally, but it is noticeable.
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    Thanks Veritas I posted that speach a few weeks ago and its a plea from the heart from a concerned politition.
    We the 99% have never been free from manipulation from the elites for thousands of years....Since the first
    empires to the Corporates of Today, and you can discuss that a thousand ways looking thru all the history
    books and seeing which families always seem to be at the top of the pile so to speak...

    Ironically what has changed is thanks to Sir Tim Berners Lee the inventer of the web .They have lost there
    stangle hold on communications .They Bought up all the news and print corporations in the 80's & 90's
    to prevent what true journalists there were from 'cracking' another watergate scandel...

    It was unthinkable a few years ago people all around the world could be able to communicate on forums
    like this !! This scare the elites sh---ess as if we all speak to each other....WHO'S going to be the 'BOOGEYMAN' ??
    ALIENS ....possibly ...LOL..would tie in with Carol Rosin & Von Braun....

    I just posted this article on the assange site which is good, but i'l post it here because 16 mins i they do another article
    on the 17th ammendment about stopping the public voting congressmen and it would go back to the elites voting
    in congress.Bringing back open corruption, just like the 18th/19th century 'Rotten' boroughs in the UK very scary !!

    Things were a lot worse in the past !!

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    The thing that I'm realizing from your post is that there really isn't a good way around the corruption in the Senate.

    I tend to support the repeal of the 17th amendment because I want to see Senators act in the best interest of their states, not the best interests of lobbyists. However, like you said, it's kind of obvious that it will go back to the 'smoke-filled' rooms of the past.

    I'm not sure what the answer is, but at a very minimum, we have to come up with a way to recall our Senators if they aren't acting in the best interest of the people they supposedly represent.

    Realistically, there's not a groundswell from the public for change because there's really no incentive to change the current system.

    I just find it disgusting that there is no way to get these people out of power if there's just cause. A president can be impeached/convicted. A Congressman is up for election every 2 years, so there's plenty of chances to get the 'bum' out (but of course, the problem is someone else's bum, right?) Our States have processes in place for recalling local/state officials. Senators serve longer terms than these people(6 years) and there is no process -either Federally or through the State - that can be used to kick these people out of office before their term is up, if they aren't representing their people and, well, acting like criminals.

    It would be nice to actually find a solution to the problem.

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    We have the same thing here going on for voting in members to the House of Lords, which all parties have been saying on and off for a 100years.
    Just as it seemed it was going to happen thru the efforts of the Libral members of the coalition ...Some conservative members ( traditional party of the rich )
    managed to persuade Cameron to scupper it...The Elites are showing no signs of giving up power behind the scenes here in Royal corporate UK !!
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    "We Seem to Have A 51st State Named China" Loved That Comment. Starts at 9:00
    Very Powerful Speech. And I actually like this Senator, and i can't stomach politicians. Maybe he woke up perhaps. Just a thought
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    and now with the increasing amount of electronic interference with free thinking ...

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    Quote Posted by Veritus (here)
    If he would like that would be fine with me. For now I'm not too busy to keep posting things that fall in line with the findings of my research...
    Here's what I believe to be the most accurate diptiction of reality concerning one small but important aspect of this issue:

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...=rAQFj_kMp&s=1

    Not sure if the noise in the background was created intentionally, but it is noticeable.
    Lyndon LaRouche is a expert historian when it comes to venetian empire and this very subject of video. Seems every time I mention his name here on PA the shills come out of the woodwork and shoot him down. He did fed jail time years ago for speaking out truth about govt corruption and who's the conspiritors.---Rob

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    sometimes it's good to sit back and observe the actions and reactions of the written word

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    I asked myself the question, "what exactly would it take to completely remove the control of the Financial Elite over elections, and thus governance, in the US?"

    There is some good work being done by groups (such as Move to Amend) in the US, that are focused on overturning the 2010 Supreme Court decision to allow corporations to spend all they want (as "free speech") on elections. The approach is somewhat naive, because the same Financial Elite had complete control over elections before 2010, but at least the talking points that elections are controlled by money are more clear and prevalent than ever before.

    Research to uncover all of the ways that the Financial Elite control elections shows that there are at least nine different pathways of control. That means, only a comprehensive approach that simultaneously closes all the pathways could possibly take the control away from them (and put it into citizens hands.)

    The results were published in July 2011 (before Occupy Wall Street was even proposed) as "The Reset Button" document, and it was also a call to create a movement. As it turned out, the activists who were first shown The Reset Button document all had their own agendas - which were simply to fight the only way they were familiar with: protesting. Worse, they were "hacking at the branches" rather than at the root causes, and as should be evident to everyone by now, all protest now falls on deaf ears. Protest will not work.

    Taking cues from the brilliant John (Confessions of an Economic Hitman) Perkins, the only way to win a war with financial overlords is to fight financially. (Thus, the "strategy" part of The Reset Button.)

    Whether or not anyone thinks The Reset Button is the answer or not, if someone asks the question, "What exactly would it take to completely remove the control of the Financial Elite over elections, and thus governance, in the US?", The Reset Button deserves attention as a complete plan, strategy, and non-nebulous goal - and at least as a template towards a comprehensive approach.

    Until something like The Reset Button takes place, we loop around the mobius strip created and maintained by the Financial Elite.

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    Dennis, nice post. You are right and I like the strategy of the reset button. But that even getting to a point of effectiveness is an exhausting thought itself. Not impossible tho, just seemingly more hope involved than the reality of possibility. Non the less, I love the reset button idea and am definitely behind that motion.
    There is a group of people taking a more war-like and radical approach to the situation. Alexander Romanov, who claims to be heading the "Agnosic Illuninati", has teamed up with The White Dragon Society in Japan, and they seem to have this financial possibility and the man power to begin a War. Alexander Romanov put out a hit on George Bush with a ransom of 1 million in gold to anyone who executes him publicly. Now that's heavy. The fact he's still walking around tells me he's either protected or it was just another antic by those in power. Here's a video: http://youtu.be/sD_ket_9Fcc
    Now I would usually call bluff on this (or at least take this video with a grain of salt) but recently, Alexander Romanov (the guy in this video) contacted me through email to understand and discuss my some of my research and mainly discuss my recent decoding of a frequency. Of course I didn't believe it was him and he offered to Skype me, in which we did the next day and drank a beer together and discussed a lot of things. What I can say is, yes, it was him, and he seemed much too passionate for his hatred of those in power to be faking it. I could be wrong of course, who knows these days, but at least that's the way it seemed to me. He was beyond the normal means of democracy and said that these people will never be gotten to by rational means of democracy as we think they should be handled. He said the only way to handle them is to put fear into their hearts and minds, and that the only way for that to happen is to start killing them so that the rest know it is serious and will either kill themselves or step down before being killed. Far too crazy of an idea for me to have any involvement whatsoever in. He spent most of our time complaining rather tastefully and adamantly about the various ancient cities that have fallen in desctruction due to this power-group since the beginning of of our 3rd cycle of civilization. He included cities like Rome (before the Romans) and Babylon, ect.
    Anyone's guess is as good as mine, I'm just trying to explain what I can. That was the last time I spoke with him and I doubt I will ever see him again. And after our conversations I think he would be too dangerous of a person to be in contact with on a regular basis.
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    I have to say, the content of what each of you are discussing in this post gives me hope. Why? Because YOU have not given up. On my Facebook site for Corruption I get so many messages from people saying its all lost, a waste of time and they cannot do anything about it anyway.

    I too was in Mil Intel and was yanked down the rabbit hole... THEN I went and worked for the FRB and several other too big to fail banks and was circle jerked around through that rabbit hole again from another angle.

    Keep it up people, we have left the heavy lifting to people like Bill and Kerry, David Wilcock and Benji Fulford and many others for too long. I am encouraged to see so many people awake and beginning to look for places to take a stand against the 1%.

    Once we put aside our silly differences that divide us we the 99% will be organized enough to rise up and take back our freedom. Thank you all and KEEP IT UP... you are waking others up every day. YOU are making a difference one person at a time.

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    "President Dwight D. Eisenhower's farewell address, known for its warnings about the growing power of the "military-industrial complex," was nearly two years in the making. This Inside the Vaults video short follows newly discovered papers revealing that Eisenhower was deeply involved in crafting the speech, which was to become one of the most famous in American history. The papers were discovered by the family of Eisenhower speechwriter Malcolm Moos and donated to the Eisenhower Presidential Library and Museum. Eisenhower Library director Karl Weissenbach and presidential historian and Foundation for the National Archives board member Michael Beschloss discuss the evolution of the speech."


    And who own most if not all the contracts for the military? Private corporations and individuals. Eisenhower was right.

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    If you look at history, you can see that the people did nothing but become victims of these people. Look at the pictures of WW2 or Stalins massacres, Hitler, etc etc etc etc etc. and you see people just standing there looking at their bombed houses and dead family's. There is an old black and white picture that is seared into my head like no other. Its of women and children brought out of their houses and taken to the street, women raped and killed and their children bayoneted in the Ukraine by Stalins troops doing house to house searches. Victims of Government, Government equals death and those that fund and control it have the power.

    The only way I can see anything being done to stop this re-occurring parasitic infestation is a majority realization that government and its funders/controllers are irrelevant, obsolete, useless, not needed, not wanted, and criminal. This would require that the masses turn to 'Them' and actually see them for what they are. It would in my opinion take at least 55 to 60% of the population to wake up and make a serious change.

    So between the Fluoride, vaccines, television (mind control), cell phone towers(more mind control), govt schools (govt indoctrination centers) and on and on and on, I dont see it happening anytime soon. Not unless there is an external intervention. Thats not to say we would need to know why all of a sudden the mind control no longer works, just that it doesn't and they can see. That is what we should pray for, wish for, move toward, strive for, light a candle for, use sex magic for or what ever it is that you personally do.

    For me I just expect that if it gets really really bad at a global level, and it will as they close the net, then maybe that will turn the mass consciousness on like a light switch to the reality of the slavery that is taking place. The Elite=The Obsolete oohmm LOL.

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    Thanks GoodeTXSG. Well said words yourself

    Great post Bogeyman! Thank you!

    Siberia9, I hope so. I really do. My research is showing it goes back much further. It is amazing when you consider not necessarily how much has been done in this length of time, but when you think of what we might have been by now. It is sad, but I'm hoping these things coming to light will actually fuel hope instead of lose it. At least thats whats happening to me.
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    Vermont Senator Bernard (Colonel) Sanders Nails It Shut! Another Great Speech!

    *****I Give It 5 Stars*****

    This Senator is starting to grow on me a tad, and im no fan of politicians.

    "The American people are angry. They are angry because they are living through the worst recession since the Great Depression," said Bernie Sanders said on the floor of the Senate.


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