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    Hi:

    OK, up until now in this life and human journey narrative, it has pretty much been the orthodox perspective. There are obviously other perspectives, both from the Fringe Science end of things and the mystical side of the house. Sometimes it reinforces the orthodox position, but it often does not. Here are mystical statements that are either mind-boggling, or seem to contradict the orthodox perspective.

    1. Michael (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael ) has stated that the universe has expanded and collapsed more times than there are atoms in the universe. That might be the most mind-boggling mystical statement that I have yet encountered, but it actually does not contradict White Science theory, but it is something that White Science surely cannot verify.

    2. Michael has also said that there are a million ensouled species in our galaxy. That statement was made long before extra-solar planets began to be discovered. Before then, one theory was that planets might be rare, and Earth-like planets even rarer. Today, it is looking like Earth-like planets are fairly common in the galaxy, and likely the universe.

    3. Kryon says that the universe is a lot smaller than it looks. Beats me, but orthodox theory may have a problem with that.

    4. Seth (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#seth ) said that Earth is trillions of years old. If so, I don’t know how to square that with orthodox theory.

    5. One common mystical/channeled theme is that Earth and the moon were brought to this solar system, maybe independently. Like Seth’s trillions of years comment, for that to be true, radioactive dating is invalid, and even radioactivity is not understood. I have a hard time buying that, but what do I know. More on that in future posts.

    6. Seth has said that the universe is not expanding because of a Big Bang. There are scientists such as Halton Arp who challenge the expanding universe theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp ). Of course, Seth and Michael seem to conflict here.

    7. The origin of life and speciation are poorly understood in orthodox theory. Even if they created some chemical reactions that became living, what would it mean? That conscious arose from matter? Or, the matter got to a place where consciousness found a home? The mystic takes door number two.

    8. Brian O, I, Shakti Gawain, and millions of other people had it dramatically demonstrated that everybody can perform “psychically,” when we had what is now called a remote viewing after less than forty hours of meditation training: http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#brown . The doors that opened with that experience never closed, and we all shake our heads at “skeptics” like Randi (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#randi ). Not only are almost all the “skeptics” that I have encountered been deeply dishonest (I have been slimed by one of the more famous ones, as have many in the FE field http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest ), but to hew to their materialist convictions when a little training can open their eyes I consider bizarre. One possible explanation is that, in the Michael parlance, they are Young and Baby souls, and have less access to those abilities than the older souls that comprise the mystical and fringe communities.

    9. Seth said that viruses mutate according to the beliefs of their host organisms ( http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#seth ). That is “way out there” when compared to orthodox teachings, but the microscopes of Rife and Naessens have confirmed pleomorphism and how important is to subcellular biology (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rife ; http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens ). To this day, “skeptics” and debunkers call Rife and Naessens frauds, but in one of the most mind-boggling cases of stupidity and/or dishonesty that I have ever seen from that crowd, they all avoid dealing with the “impossible” resolutions of their microscopes. Micrographs of Rife’s scope exists today (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post517775 ), and anybody can go to Naessens’s lab today and see those “impossible” resolutions for themselves. It is the findings of those microscopes that are so epochal, because they have seen life processes at resolutions that orthodoxy can’t, so they can make discoveries that orthodoxy can’t. As I have stated plenty, it is when Fringe Science can impact the rackets that it gets tough, and the energy racket and the medical racket are the two greatest rackets on Earth. Those are the areas where Fringe Science should be focusing its efforts, if it is really trying to right the ship. But for the pioneers in those fields, it is a lonely slog, with few supporters and the racketeers targeting them, as well as betrayals by their few “allies.”

    10. The ET/UFO situation is highly charged. Greer’s Disclosure Project is the most impressive effort that I know of to break the suppression. When the key players all came down with strange forms of cancer right after the Congressional hearings in 1997 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak ), observers like me were not surprised, I am sorry to say. I went to see some UFOs myself, and did not come away disappointed (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm ).

    11. The ET/UFO situation is joined at the hip with FE, anti-gravity and other technologies in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard, partly because the stuff that my friend was shown (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground ) is likely mostly from reverse-engineering captured ET craft. Somewhat ironically, that friend who received the show does not even believe in ETs, but what he described to me is exactly what Greer’s witnesses have described.

    12. One of the best indicators of the racketeering around those issues is to look at how Wikipedia deals with them. Greer has a Wikipedia article that does not even mention the 1997 Congressional hearings, much less the cancer that all the key players got around the same time, which only Greer survived. The article on Naessens does not even mention his microscope, and the Rife article says that his microscope never really worked. The topic of FE suppression is treated similarly. Several years ago, I found out that Wikipedia is an abysmal source for anything that challenges cherished fantasies about the White Man (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/wikimass.htm ), but how the professional trolls and disinformation experts have muddied the waters over the ET/UFO, Rife, Naessens, and FE issues is nothing short of evil. You get to see the rackets in all their glory by a little perusal of those Wikipedia pages.

    13. On Fringe Science, there is an entire cottage industry of Fringe Science that tries to make the Bible literally true, presenting evidence and analysis that Earth is less than six thousand years old. There is a lot of Fringe Science that makes the case the evolution is a fraud, again making Genesis right. I was exposed to that kind of “science” in the 1990s. I was not impressed, but there is a great deal of that out there.

    14. There is also a great deal of Fringe Science that makes the case for vertical tectonics and other fringe theories, as the proponents try to make the case that Atlantis rises and falls, and that certain channeled information is right. I have a real problem with that kind of science. I have been on the fringes of the Velikovsky controversy for nearly twenty years. Velikovsky was another Biblical literalist, but he made the case that the miracles in the Bible, like parting the Red Sea and the manna from heaven, were not due to God’s intervention, but by near misses with Earth by a young Venus that was ejected from Jupiter. From what I have seen as I have delved into these areas is that Velikovsky’s theories are very shaky. No serious astronomer makes the case that Venus is only a few thousand years old. Venus has the most perfectly circular orbit of all the planets, and the planetary billiards scenario of Velikovsky’s would have left some traces in the orbits of various solar bodies, but nobody can find them. Velikovsky also made the case that those planetary near-misses created global catastrophes that did things like make the mammoths extinct. The mammoth extinction is kind of like the holy grail of recent mass extinctions, and I have looked long and hard at that one. I consider the mammoth extinction just one of many that attended the bloody migrations of super-predator humans as they conquered all of Earth’s ecosystems ( https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post539852) . It seems that there is a lot of human ego invested in denying that humans were the cause of all of those mass extinctions. Scientific findings keep making the “fire from the sky” or melting glacier theories untenable, as far as explaining all of those mass extinctions. Mammoths were certainly buried alive as glacial dams broke as the ice sheets retreated for this most recent glacial interval. But intervals have been happening like clockwork for millions of years now, and they survived dozens of those episodes, to suddenly go extinct right after humans appeared on the scene. There is still plenty of debate and conjecture in orthodoxy over those extinctions, but what was a radical theory nearly fifty years ago is not so radical today, and has become the orthodox position, for good reason, IMO.

    I have a lot to do today, but this is not the end of my mystical/Fringe Science interlude in this human journey narrative. I’ll make another post or two on this subject soon. As I have stated before, the Fringe Science and mystical stuff begins to have a hard time when their findings impact the rackets. Rackets can only exist in a world of scarcity. The suppression of FE is the big one and always has been. With the advent of FE comes the end of scarcity, which is why it is the Big One. The racketeers are hooked on scarcity as much as Richard Heinberg and friends are:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#introduction

    The racketeers know that if FE got loose, it is game over for the rackets. The good news is that cooler heads may prevail on this matter:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    and I have stated in my interviews with Scott and Tom that if I had to put my money on it, I think that the battle over FE will be fought and won at those levels, not the low level that I am playing at, but that does not meant that I am going to sit around the house and await delivery of my FE machine. Even if FE appears while I am at this life project of mine, that choir will be vital in anchoring an enlightened implementation of FE. There are obviously potential downsides to FE if implemented in killer ape fashion, with delusional Young Warriors running the show (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors ), which is partly why I advocate that global peacekeeping force staffed by grandmothers during the transition period.

    Time to go hiking with my wife, and then a long day in the office.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Would like to address the so called overpopulation issue and FE in Adams article. All "developed" countries, which consume the most energy in the world are the ones with the lowest population growth. There was a white science study cited in NewScientist claiming that couples living in poverty and stressing conditions tend to have more children compared to more relaxed couples. My reasoning is that FE would not only allow to feed ALL of humanity but would cause people to have less children. With FE there is no need to farm the surface of the planet. With such an advanced technology like FE farming or any land intensive enterprise can be moved into the air or better yet into the orbit around the earth. The only limit is present scarcity indoctrination aka imagination. Wade's intent is to break "the spell" and encourage to look beyond the horizon.

    From mystical point of view if enough of us humans start to share a common dream of FE coming true it will become a "reality" one day and start a paradigm shift for the rest of the planet. It all must start in the heart. And the mind will follow promptly...
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    Amen, Robert. I wrote about this topic long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#birthrate

    and I will also do so in this human journey narrative. The single best determinant of birth rates today is the level of a woman’s education and her opportunities.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/97facts/edu2birt.htm

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=3xytH0FveYA

    Women do not naturally want to be baby machines. If they have other options, they would rather not spend their lives raising large broods of children. Also, when child mortality goes down, so does the birth rate. The improving standard of living of high energy societies is what liberated women in the West:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn7

    What a high standard of living means today is a low birth rate, low child mortality, and no population growth. The world’s poor have lots of children, and it has been this way for centuries. It was the exploitation principle that fostered high birth rates and population growth. Having lots of children has been called the peasant’s route to wealth.

    Child exploitation actually became worse in the early days of industrialization.

    http://www.history.com/topics/child-labor

    That situation helped inspire Karl Marx, and Charles Dickens worked in a factory when he was twelve, and wrote about those hellish conditions in his work.

    Child labor today is the highest in the poorest nations, especially in Africa.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labour#Present_day

    Slavery really began with agriculture.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Early_history

    People were exploitable assets in agricultural societies, and provided what an economist would call marginal utility. Raise everybody’s standard of living (and we know what that would be based on ), and birthrates probably go below ZPG for a while. So many societal structures encouraged big families (religions like Catholics, Mormons, etc., family farms, and so on).

    Time for bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    a perhaps relevant fact i learned while reading 'Luddites: Rebels Against the Future' : the 'birth rate' soars & gets out of whack when people were/are forced away from living in traditional communities -- village life -- & are crowded into cities

    for the first time in recorded history, more Humans live in cities now than in rural areas

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    Hi Wynderer:

    The human population has been increasing, constantly, for tens of thousands of years. In Europe, it was the “surplus” rural population that supplied the cities with their people. There have been dips, and it was when cities had epidemics, or they collapsed by running out of energy (or wars over scarce resources). Violence is what tended to keep hunter-gatherer populations in check, but they always grew.

    Malthus’s observation was accurate in that people bred to the carrying capacity of the land. When the North American continent was being invaded by Europeans two hundred years ago in the great American expansion (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#steal1), whose methods wrenched far more energy from the land (deforestation, smelting, plow agriculture), the average woman had about eight children, and it was a rural phenomenon:.

    http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/haines.demography

    Industrialization, which became an urban phenomenon, is what dropped birth rates. Today, that phenomenon is called the demographic-economic paradox:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...onomic_paradox

    In agricultural societies before industrialization, the rich often had larger families than the agrarian poor, but that was not sustainable, as the rich lived off the backs of the poor – there was only so much agricultural surplus to feed the rich. The population trends and underlying economic situation has been a complex one over the millennia, although rich city folk often had smaller families. In ancient Rome, as in the city, families were small, and adopting children was common, so one could have heirs. This is a subject that I plan to write more on when I write that essay.

    The bottom line is that populations have always increased, globally, with extremely few exceptions, usually due to a catastrophe. The exploitation principle is behind religions encouraging high birthrates, to keep the pews and coffers filled. That exploitation principle was behind having large, agrarian families. When poverty ends, so do skyrocketing population increases. When women are free, they do not choose to be baby machines.

    Radical feminists have long looked to the village as the ideal political-economic situation, and that goes back to Marx and Engels.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ori..._and_the_State

    Indeed, before advanced industrialization, it was arguably when women had their highest standing compared to men, at least until today in industrialized societies. The lot of women is better than it has ever been, in industrialized societies. Similar to how the hunter-gatherer phase of human existence has been romanticized, so has village life. Most epic fantasy has an equivalent of The Shire where the epic quest against evil begins. The transition from hunter-gatherer to village life was done because the hunter-gatherer lifestyle was too successful and killed off all the easy meat. People shrank in size when they began domesticating plants and animals. While I can see the allure of village life, at least when compared to urban hells, it is largely a romanticized ideal. Go back to a village in the Fertile Crescent before the invasions by the pastoralists, and life was hard, real hard.

    I’ll allow that the closest thing that we have to a window into those long ago times were the natives of North America when Europe began invading. There were some cities, such as at Cahokia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia

    and it had a population collapse from deforestation and over-hunting. But, the village societies of the Eastern Woodlands were very intriguing and attractive to Europeans from the beginning, which is why so many ran off and went native. What villages have in their favor is that everybody knew everybody, at least if the village stayed at only a few hundred in size. The Caribbean that Columbus stumbled into was like that:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/columbus.htm#first

    It also appears that the Amazon had a series of connected villages. That is partly because they were Stone Age peoples and could not chop the trees down with abandon to smelt metals. They had no draft animals to pull plows or carts. A lot of that seemingly idyllic lifestyle was due to real economic limitations. The reason the villages moved in the Eastern Woodlands was because they used up all the available firewood (and depleted the soils).

    But wherever villages were subject to being brought together into a higher level of social organization, they were. Villages had their elites, and they gave way to urban social organization when the economic situation was amenable to it. If people could have somehow prevented cities from forming, maybe it would have all stopped at the village level. Cities had their allure, however, and leaving the farm for the city is an age-old practice.

    This also gets into the idea of carrying capacity. As Robert alluded to, which is a key point of my work, when FE and attendant technologies come forward, mining sunlight from the ecosystems will become obsolete. We can grow food in space if we want. The awesome destruction of Earth’s ecosystems in the service of our lifestyles will end, breaking a trend that began when people began burning the land to get more energy out of it.

    I think that the past can be studied with profit, or I would have never done my site. But there is also no going back. The neo-Malthusians like Heinberg advocate getting rid of more than six billion excess people because when we run out of fossil fuels, Earth will not be able to support us all:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

    His rationale is coming energy scarcity, but he does not want to hear about FE. Bizarre.

    I have a long week ahead of me, but here is a brief continuation of my fringe/mystical theme…

    Seth said that life is inherently non-competitive:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#competition

    but we have food chains. How can that be squared? I admit that I don’t know. Zoosh said that food chains, where primary producers are grazed, and the grazers preyed upon, is an Earth thing, and that many other planets don’t play that game. Hmmm…

    When people review how complex life came to be, with bacteria being enveloped into archaeans and becoming mitochondria and chloroplasts, it becomes natural to wonder how life on other planets would have evolved. When I also hear that most ET species that have been catalogued are humanoid in form, it really makes me wonder. Is the humanoid form somehow universal? Is it only a feature of this corner of the galaxy? Was life seeded here and nudged along? I don’t have the answers. We likely won’t know until the ETs are able to come into the open. Then a lot of mysteries will be solved.

    With what I know about the ET/UFO situation (the military tried to kill Brian over it http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#attack ), and how it is joined at the hip with FE, antigravity and the like, I know that the situation is a real one, not some fevered conspiracist fantasy. But what all is being covered up, I don’t know. There are plenty of theories out there, and alleged insiders appear almost daily, telling us what is happening, but I take those “revelations” with a grain of salt; much of it is likely disinformation, either intentionally disseminated by TPTB, or attention-seekers. We won’t know much about what is real and what is fake until it all comes into the open. Until then, all the wild speculation that you see on the Internet is counterproductive, IMO.

    I have to run off to work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Quote Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)
    ...With FE there is no need to farm the surface of the planet. With such an advanced technology like FE farming or any land intensive enterprise can be moved into the air or better yet into the orbit around the earth. The only limit is present scarcity indoctrination aka imagination. Wade's intent is to break "the spell" and encourage to look beyond the horizon.

    From mystical point of view if enough of us humans start to share a common dream of FE coming true it will become a "reality" one day and start a paradigm shift for the rest of the planet. It all must start in the heart. And the mind will follow promptly...
    Thank you for that post Robert.

    Wade, I looked back over my previous 2 posts and could really see how it appeared I was suggesting an exclusion of the mystical or fringe aspects from what you choose to explore! Apologies. That wasn't my intention. (A better word might have been 'mysterious', since I was referring to the sometimes shaky evidence of ancient/alien earth inhabitants that has occasionally been raised for discussion and how, despite the engaging nature / potential relevance of the surrounding issues, it can prove a distraction.) The examples that you've often cited here, such as remote-viewing and the craft at Gilliland's ranch, are obviously ones that people are free to experience for themselves. If, as you said, FE can make it into the open, "a lot is coming with it, such as the ET presence," (Post 2200), then it wouldn't take long for people to realise that advanced civilisations will likely have had ancient roots, and that if they (and their tech) are many millennia in advance of us they may well have visited before. But how the disclosure of FE and ETs might effect the research into our roots (on numerous levels) is a whole other discussion, for another time and place (and I note you've made this point in Post 2205.)

    With regards to the mystical, not only do I enjoy that aspect of life, but it has played a fundamental role in my own awakening, and I see it as a key ingredient to breathing life into this new and more evolved reality we all envision. I've always understood that your intentions are far subtler than an attempt to 'convert' the masses via a public interaction. But I don't want to risk another long post, elaborating with the words I should have chosen. I regret the confusion (hopefully I haven't caused any more; I didn't mean to create unnecessary issues for you to address.)

    Thank you for the links relating to population (Post 2203.) That's long been my understanding of how wealth/security/education relate to the equation, and obviously free-energy eliminates certain incentives for / causes of population growth . Your mystical post (2201) lead me to re-read your Spiritual Perspective essay. Lots of pointers to relevant literature there. Much appreciated.

    I'll try and refrain from commenting for a while. Although I can't promise anything. This subject is so deeply engaging, though I sometimes struggle with editing my responses. Apologies all.

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    Hi:

    I missed my bus, so I have some time before I have to run off for the next one.

    As you can tell, this thread is continually weaving this way and that, usually in response to what people ask or observe. I think that that is OK, and why there are forums. But there are people who wonder what I am trying to do and how I am going about it. This post is for them, and maybe some that follow behind this.

    I have posted the genesis of how I got here all over my site and on this thread. It is kind of like that Lennon lyric that says life is what happens while you are making plans. I was raised as a Golden Boy prodigy from almost the time that I could walk. I had opportunities that few people have ever enjoyed, and I have long felt a great responsibility to do something with it. When that voice first spoke to me:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

    if I had any idea of what it had in store for me, I might have said, “No thanks. I think I’ll do something boring with my life, like make a bunch of money.” But I heeded the voice, and my adventures began. One of the bizarre parts of my journey is that when I began living up to the Golden Boy aspirations that my parents had for me, they instead attacked me and disowned me. That was one of the harder aspects of my journey, but by no means the hardest. Sacrificing my life to give Dennis a snowball’s chance closed the door on being a parent and other life events that people often think is their birthright:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

    but I certainly have no regrets. As I staggered from Ventura in 1990, my life was shattered and I was suffering from PTSD, for good reason. That was when I really began to go deep on the study that eventually became my site. The Internet did not exist when I began that study, so I had no ideas about writing a website, and until 2001, I still thought that I would write a book or two. That will never happen.

    I am still making it up as I go, and for several years now, I have been doing the study that I plan to use to write that comprehensive essay. I am a long way from sketching its themes on this thread, and it once again shows me that I have a long ways to go. That essay is not going to get done this year, but I am putting its themes on this thread, and that will have to be good enough for now.

    I did not interact with the public for years, wrestling with my monster of a midlife crisis, and it was an invitation to the White House that finally brought the situation to a head:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis

    and I sought professional help like I did in 1991, and my midlife crisis finally ended. A few things then happened. Brian and I began to correspond again, I began engaging the public again, which led to my first interview:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm

    and then this essay brought Brian fully back into my life:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm

    and we began collaborating in a way that we had not done before. One thing led to another, and he and I eventually did an interview with Bill and Kerry:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm

    None of it was planned, and one thing led to another. The Avalon forum was a complete surprise to me. I was planning on getting that essay done and then engage the public in some kind of invitation-only forum, because I had it demonstrated in no uncertain terms that there was no all-comers forum on Earth that could host the conversation that I planned:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll

    Avalon came along before I was ready to engage the public again, but I have no regrets. All along, however, ever since 1990, my goal has been to engage the public, to get some of them to think about the FE issue. In the past twenty years, that task has been an increasingly dismaying experience, not only for me, but for people like Brian, too:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

    The possible candidates for having the conversation that I want to have shrank and shrank. Even the people in the FE milieu today don’t understand. They are all in Levels 6 to 11:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

    Brian thought the closest to me that I have seen, but he was still playing around Level 10 to the end.

    Time to run off, but more coming.

    Best,

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    Hey there Wade. While on vacation, me and the wife took the opportunity to take the tour of the infamous Oak Ridge nuclear facility in eastern Tennessee today. Leaving all of the WW 2 propaganda we were treated to for a different time (it was breathtaking), the energy issue was also placed front and center. Of course you know the drill...

    We have to be more like France, more money for research, more nuclear plants, maybe fusion some day(at a price of course), blah blah blah. Towards the end, I was already not the most popular questioner of our tour guide, by asking questions about contamination, health issues, and such, so by the time my question concerning cold fusion was scoffed at unsurprisingly, I was more thinking about getting a cold beer, than asking about the possibilities if FE.

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    Hi AWP:

    It is big hearted of you, but there is no need to apologize, and my responses are not aimed at you like you may think they are. Your posts are pretty astute, and can be as poetic as Sandy’s.

    In nearly forty years of this game, the experiences that I have had with people on these subjects run well into the thousands. A lot of what I do is reiterate positions that I have because I am well aware of how difficult they can be to grasp. Even with people who want to understand, it is often an exercise of me taking a run at it from several different directions before their eyes light up, although almost nobody ever gets to Level 12. And guess how many times I have gone through that exercise to find out that the person was not really trying to understand, but trying to lure me into some kind of trap where they could zing me (usually around defending their scarcity-based ideology of choice, or their justification for violence and coercion)? That is not the case at Avalon, which is partly why I have the presence here that I do.

    A truly comprehensive perspective will integrate a mystical awareness into it, because it is definitely part of the whole, so materialists are not truly comprehensive thinkers, even the best of them. Bucky was a deeply spiritual dude. Again, these are all big subjects that it would take days of conversation to begin to cover their contours, which is a limitation in how I am going about this, so I have to sketch the ideas and let people connect many of the dots. Not many people can really do that today, but if I have to spell everything out, they are probably not my target audience. The trick is to straddle the polarities. One of the most common themes in my work is around that kind of balance. After being the target of some very involved “conspiracies,” I certainly don’t deny them, but I don’t lie awake at night thinking about them, either. Structuralists and the conspiracists both fail to see the big picture, but they have their victim-orientation in common:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

    Similarly, one of the most common hazards of playing mystic is floating off into irrelevance and magical thinking, being so heavenly bound that people are no earthly good. Our job for now is to live in this world. What we do while we are here is what is important. Materialists tend to worship the mechanism, while magical thinkers tend to deny its importance. Acknowledge the mechanism without worshipping it – that is the trick. Also, realizing that the so-called mechanism cannot be so easily isolated, and a lot is lost in the reductionism, is something that some scientists are slowly learning. As Seth said, when a scientist kills a frog to find out how it lived, the scientist ends up knowing less of life, not more, when the dissection is complete. Again, these people had genetic engineering:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    as did these people:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

    The difference is that one operated from the heart, and the other did not. One killed animals with abandon, and one never did. I don’t claim to know all the answers for how that heavenly world was created, but I know that its bedrock was love, and they mastered FE and other stuff that is being kept under wraps today. I constantly refer to them as an example of what can be. I was pursuing that kind of world long before I read Roads’s account of it, but it is a handy star to steer by.

    OK, back to the “why am I doing this, and what am I doing” questions.

    In some ways, it could be seen as trying to find a habitation zone – one that is not too close to the sun, but not so far out that we get lost in space. Dennis tracked right at the sun, and I went along for the ride more than once. The heat was more than I could stand, but that was where my most important learning experiences were. Over the years, I have encountered people who reminded me of where I would be if that voice had not led me on my crazy journey. I have met a fair number of those overgrown Boy Scouts on my journey, but who had not been through the meat grinder. They were all well-meaning, but naïve. Some learned some of the lessons the hard way, after I tried to talk them out of it, and that has not been easy to watch, let me tell you. I have seen careers end and lives get wrecked by gung-hoers who had not been through the meat grinder yet. I usually avert my eyes anymore, and try to avoid hearing the shrieks as they get caught in the maw.

    When I see people with inventor-itis, thinking that they can do FE in their garages and save the world, I do my best to sober them up, but it feels like warning people about the killer bunny:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

    One person who looked at me like I was crazy, when I told him about my experience on the witness stand:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

    later lost his career as he tried to chat up his office about FE, after I warned him to not give up his day job for the FE pursuit, if he could not afford to starve. He is still at it, but limping along. This is NSFW stuff.

    Anyway, getting meaningful experience in the FE field can be life-threatening, especially when you play at the high levels, and most who get scorched still really don’t see the big picture - all they know is they got scorched and it hurt. I was astounded at the naïveté of some of my fellow travelers, as they walked right into the lion’s den, thinking that they were going in to pet a kitty, people who were one heck of a lot older and worldlier than me, or so I thought. But if few survive the learning experience, and those few who do fail to learn the lessons anyway, how in the heck does any of this have a prayer? I spent many years trying to engage the “left,” beginning with Chomsky, but I never really found anybody who could go there. Brian tried to get some to go there, for many years, and he had access that I will never have, and he virtually never found anybody home, either. Instead, “progressives” and environmentalists sat in rapt attention, listening to the dirge of Heinberg and friends, or they thought that people like Branson actually pursue real solutions. Left, right, center, scientists, lay people, academics, New Agers, environmentalists, etc., - nobody is home, anywhere. That is probably the most surreal part of my journey, and it spurred people like Brian to wonder if we are a sentient species:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

    It is a fair question, IMO. I say that humanity is semi-sentient. Most can get by in their lives, but much of it is learning tricks of survival, and one of them is hitching their wagons to the scarcity-based ideologies of their choice, which feeds them, so they will go to their graves, never budging from where they dug in. In Brian’s later interviews, he called it “digging in their heels.”

    It took me many years to begin to understand what all of those crazy reactions had in common, and it is a key part of the conundrum. Only people whose hearts are in the right place are going to refrain from digging in their heels when faced with the specter of FE and abundance (Oh, the horror! ). Where to find such people? That search has never been easy and is almost entirely fruitless, anywhere that you go on Earth. I eventually realized that no group had it. Not one of them. But are there some places where you could throw a rock and you have a chance of hitting at least one of them? The Internet expanded our fishing opportunities, but that has largely been a dismaying experience for me, until I saw Bill start this forum. And then Ilie caught on real quickly about what I was trying to do, and I saw that it was possible for some to get it without going through the meat grinder, etc. Dennis and I learned many of our lessons the hard way, being almost entirely ignorant of how the land lied. The Internet has the virtue of bringing the pieces of the puzzle together, if you know what pieces are genuine, and few really are. That is also part of the conundrum. There are far more pretenders than contenders in any field, but the perils and temptations go up a few orders of magnitude in the FE game. In no other field that I know of are people offered a billion dollars to go away, especially at the seemingly relatively primitive levels that we were playing at:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

    What I saw was that people with their hearts in the right place usually had no idea of what they could really do to right the ship. They would act in their immediate vicinity, helping those around them, and that would take up all their time. Many of them realize that they are only bailing water on the Titanic, but really have no idea of how to make the impact needed to patch the hull and turn a cruise ship into a star ship. I know how. But people have to do two things, first:

    1. Throw away most of what they think they know;

    2. Learn to think comprehensively.

    That is far, far harder than it looks. Almost nobody wants to do the first one, because what they “know” feeds them. They know the trick to getting fed and temporarily sating their addictions, and that is all that they want to achieve in this lifetime. I understand them and do not attempt to engage them. If they can’t do the first thing, they can’t begin to do the second. Much of my site is to help people shake their scarcity-based ideologies. They have already be willing to, and I can only help them do the work. But after they shed those beliefs, or begin to work on them, then what? Most of the problem with people focusing on the energy issue is that few non-scientists understand how central the issue is, in how we have ridden the energy situation since the beginning of life on Earth, how energy scarcity defines our existences in ways that few are aware of, and what the potential of abundant, environmentally harmless energy can be. It would be the biggest paradigm shift ever. As you can see on this thread, many commenters do not yet understand that issue very well.

    The point of my hewing to the orthodox position is to make the energy issue very clear. No fringe science really has to be invoked to make that clear. If the mammoths died because they ran out of food or they became food, either way, it was an energy issue. But getting into too much Fringe Science can lead the conversation astray, where it begins to get into highly conjectural areas that can get pretty far afield from the energy issue. A little later on this thread, I am going to make a post that shows the big energy events in the history of life, so that the reason why it generates thousands of times more energy per pound than the sun does will become clearer.

    There is also some hazard with this little plan of mine. Gene Mallove’s murder spooked Brian, for good reason:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#portland

    even though the crime has allegedly been solved:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Mallove#Death

    Godzilla has not forgotten about me. When Mr. Professor and I rescued Dennis, the White Hats cheered and the Black Hats hissed. Dennis still almost died before it was over, but he escaped the dark hole that they were preparing for him. I am on the radar. I hope that I am not too high on the radar, but we will see. The good news is that they will try to take me out before they try it with anybody else involved in my little effort. They will also look for weak links to exploit, but I am not doing much where there are links to exploit. That is partly why I am doing this the way that I am.

    On organizing these Avalon efforts, making those other threads was a way to get some themes going, and I think it worked well. These two threads:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Energy/page9

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...re-Earth/page4

    are way better than this thread, IMO. They get the essence of some key points across a lot better than this meandering thread.

    On another note…

    Fred! You were supposed to dutifully ooh and aah at the wonders of our nuke program and how we saved the world from evil by nuking those Japanese women and children. We were invited by the chairman of the board of Seabrook:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#seabrook

    to a tour of their nuke, where I could have worn a hard hat and oohed and aahed at the technological magnificence, but we passed on the opportunity, which I have always regretted.

    If you are going to play the game, you have to play it right.

    When Dennis and I spoke at those DOE hearings next to the Savannah facility:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_River_Site

    the street next to the hearing building was named something like Atomic Boulevard.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

    Talk about a company town…

    That is enough for one day. Gotta go to bed.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I don’t have much time this morning, but here goes.

    Seth said that what we see in the natural world is partly a projection of our consciousness. When we see animals acting in Darwinian fashion, it is reflecting back to us our own awareness. This is a really challenging idea, when faced with the world as we see it. How much do we create our own realities? The mystical idea is that it is co-created, and nobody is a victim. Once in a while, somebody like a Roads will have experiences where the “mass-hallucination” aspect of physical reality is evident. That is an experience that I have never had, and I can understand people’s skepticism about it, especially when being a victim is one of the oldest themes in the human journey.

    Those two future Earths that Roads visited made it clear how a society’s attitude had everything to do with its relationship with nature:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads

    It can be a fairytale or a nightmare. But the intersection of spirit with matter has always been the big mystery, and it is about the biggest bone of contention between the materialists and the mystics. You know the drill, “If we really create our own realities, let’s see you fly!” “Where is the mark of consciousness in the design and functioning of our reality?” Where exactly is the soul seated in the human body?” Those are not easy questions to answer. For myself and my fellow travelers, we all had to have our eyes opened by mystical experiences, the kind that were so dramatic that they could not be denied:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

    Everybody that I have respected in the FE field had a mystical perspective, and they all had some kind of dramatic mystical awakening, the kind that a “skeptic” can never invalidate, and I always advise people to go get some mystical experience, first, before embarking on this “Wade’s World” stuff. These are not really areas where the rationalist-materialist paradigm works. But then staying grounded is often the challenge. People can tend to float off into dreamy New Age stuff, or Fringe Science that has marginal validity. These are all hazards of the path.

    One thing that is very challenging is the medical paradigm and the findings of microscopes such as those of Rife and Naessens:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post517775

    and what they portend. The primary upshot, for me, is that at the subcellular level, there are dynamics happening that White Science completely ignores. If pleomorphic dynamics are ever acknowledged, they are largely dismissed as unimportant. The findings of those microscopes say differently, dramatically differently. What is the importance? It appears to be huge. It supports the humoral view of cancer, instead of the “solidest” one. It really upends the applecart of how life is viewed at the subcellular level. Since we are all built from that level, the implications are vast. Just what all they are, I am not sure, but the fun should be in the exploring, but the findings of those microscopes have been banned for generations, in one of the most surreal situations in the life sciences that I know of.

    I don’t think that any of that makes the evolutionary journey from single-celled life to complex life, as currently viewed by orthodox science, invalid. I’ll buy that photosynthetic bacteria became chloroplasts, and respiring bacteria became mitochondria. But, as is speculated, the somatid or something like it may be a key part of the bridge between life and inanimate matter. It is virtually unexplored territory, and it can be incredible to know that those microscopes have been around for nearly a hundred years. Those microscopes are probably the best example that I know of valid Fringe Science. Most Fringe Science claims are some kind of reinterpretation of well-known evidence, such as Velikovsky’s evidence for planetary near-misses wiping out the mammoths. Those microscopes, however, provide fresh evidence that anybody can see if they bother to take the time. But orthodox science refuses to. That is why Christopher Bird called Naessens the Galileo of the microscope. Rife was, too.

    What about intelligent design? This is a very difficult area, and where I think that many Fringe Scientists go astray. I think that the Creator is way too subtle to leave blatant evidence, and it was likely “designed” that way. The mind-body connection is likely too subtle for modern instruments to do much more than hint at it. Do a remote viewing, and one’s materialist beliefs quickly evaporate, but it is up to each person to have that experience for themselves. Nobody can really do it for anybody else. We can help each other, but can’t do it for each other. Brian O was a big advocate of scientific testing of that stuff.

    I have written that I mummified fruit when I was younger. It is really an easy experiment to perform:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post496281

    I am attaching a photo from one of Brian’s books, from his decay experiments with Marcel Vogel. They did not do it psychically, but with crystal energy. The results can really be spectacular. When you do it yourself, that is the most powerful evidence. Seek experience has always been my advice in these areas. Go watch a UFO light up on request:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

    and you will never buy the debunker explanations. It really is a huge scandal that areas like this are kept off limits to White Science, but a big part of that is to keep the rackets intact, and White Scientists oblige the dark pathers, blinkered by their paradigm. But that does not make all Fringe Science valid, and most of it is chaff. You usually have to go deep to validate any of it, and I have spent years going deep on many fringe claims, to see them fall apart on further inspection. One area like that are the claims that the moon landings were faked:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#apollo

    and it can be highly educational to go deep into some of those areas. Winnowing the chaff from the wheat is something that everybody who plays the fringe game should do at least once.

    For many years, people have advocated a hollow Earth. Well, now that the Arctic Ocean’s ice is melting with global warming, boats have been actually crossing the North Pole. If the Earth is hollow, that legendary opening at the North Pole does not appear to exist. So, what to make of all of those accounts by people who said they went into the hollow Earth? Were they making it up? I think that is likely the case, and an example of the hazards in these fields.

    Similarly, all those stories about the moon being brought here started looking shaky when the moon rocks were brought back and dated. They are just the right age for the theories that the moon was ripped from Earth by a collision with a planetary body just after Earth formed around 4.5 billion years ago. Similarly, when chondrite meteorites have been found and dated:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondrite

    they also date to about when the solar system was formed. And when the dating methods can align with measured crustal movements like the mountain chain that formed the Hawaiian Islands:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiia...seamount_chain

    the challenges to radioactive dating begin to appear to be on shaky ground.

    When Dennis was flying high again in 1996, I read some “channeled” information about our efforts, but it sounded just like one of Dennis’s sales pitches. Not all channeling is created equal.

    Time to run off to work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Humanities collective level of semi-sentience is one reason why we have the reality we have today.

    I came across a thread on here a few months back describing something called a Kundalini awakening and the description people give of what that is like is the closest thing i’ve come across to explaining how I felt when I had my mystical awakening in my early 20’s. The one major difference that I find odd is I was just walking back from a day at the pool in the sun when mine happened, whereas anyone i've read about who has had a Kundalini awakening has been in a meditative state. I had just cleared a vodka hangover.

    A FE based reality would be a cake-walk if love and free energy were joined at the hip. Not so much if combined with fear, greed, hate etc.
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    Hi David:

    Hmmm… the vodka route to enlightenment…You may be onto something!

    Yes, with a loving approach, if people could muster it, FE would be here almost overnight. You are getting at why love and FE are joined at the hip, and there are several dimensions of it. That primary lesson that I learned on my journey, that personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    was really the realization that people live in fear, not love. People operating from love have personal integrity, but almost nobody does these days. This also relates to that semi-sentient or semi-conscious nature.

    As I have stated, I have long suspected that the ZPF is divine in nature, and until we mustered sufficient divine motivation (AKA, acting from love), that we won’t be able to successfully tap it. Level 19s are able to do it because they have mastered love:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

    This society has also mastered love:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    and they consciously chose it. I think that we can consciously choose it. We won’t always achieve it, but we can always strive for it. In some ways, this can seem trite, “Let’s just love each other.” But that is truly the secret for making FE happen.

    I actually have to run off the work right now, so no FE energy and the human journey post today.

    Best,

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    hi Wade -- if the actualization/manifestation of free energy depends on the collective consciousness of Humans, then, imo, free energy is doomed in this dimension -- i'd posted before that i saw you as one who will lead others out of this dimension when the timelines diverge or whatever is soon to happen -- & that it was my privilege to know a free energy researcher [who was killed, imo] whose consciousness was very high -- very high vibration -- a vibration that does not resonate w/the collective human consciousness & especially not w/the collective human unconscious

    re the eastern woodland tribes you'd mentioned, & that many settlers fled white life to live w/the tribes -- this ties in w/the abundance manifestation being related to consciousness: the Iroquois Confederacy began w/a vision, by Deganawidah, a Huron -- he & Hiawatha visited individual families -- sat w/them at their fires & shared the vision of the tribes living in peace w/each other

    amazingly, humans actually listened to one of their prophets, & the tribes met & signed a peace treaty [they also stopped the practice of cannabalism, which was way more widespread among indigenous peoples worldwide than you'll hear about in history books -- i figure, Humans eat/devour/consume [to extinction at times] everything else living on this planet -- why not each other too?]

    when Sullivan came thru to wipe out the Seneca, his troops destroyed the acres & acres of peach trees that years of living in peace w/each other had allowed to flourish -- & this area supplied all food for the original 13 colonies for many years, the land being well cared for

    i've read, too, that after a traveling tribe broke camp & moved on, the woods they left behind looked like a beautiful park because of the respectful-to-Earth ways in which the people gathered their wood

    also, the women in the Iroquios Confederacy were respected -- in many tribes, the Grandmothers, who sat & watched the children play -- the Grandmothers could see which child was called to be a shaman, which child was a natural leader & warrior, etc, & the children were given the guidance & teachings to best fit them for their path/work in that lifetime
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    Hi Wynderer:

    If by mass consciousness, you mean everybody, including Joe Average, I agree, and I have never advocated it. I am surprised that I keep getting posts that seem to make the case that I advocate it. I call that mass movement strategy Level 10:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10

    Dennis was the master of Level 10 attempts, and I tried several with him, and saw how easy they were to defeat. I am shooting to amass 0.0001% of the global population. That is anything but a mass movement.

    None of the great breakthroughs were ever initiated by mass consciousness. Mass consciousness, on this planet right how, is the semi-sentient braying of the herd. The big stuff always happened by starting with one person, who was able to “infect” a pretty small group, who went out and initiated it. Once the ball got rolling, more joined up. Jesus was one man. Buddha was one man. The Great Peacemaker of the Iroquois was one man. It starts with one. Paul, however, did not understand, as have most followers of those greats who initiated those changes. The FE project will not work with a bunch of proselytizing Pauls going at it. That is the old way, trying to attract the semi-sentient. The FE project has to aim far higher.

    As I have stated repeatedly, FE newbies always try to mass market it, and that will never work. The reasons are several, with humanity’s current lack of personal integrity being the main reason:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    That is not a judgment, just an observation that was the primary lesson of my journey. That brings up all sorts of questions, such as if humanity is a bunch of uncaring, semi-sentient killer apes, then why even try to help them? If they got their hands on FE, they would just destroy the planet with it, just like Heinberg and friends say they fear (but I think that something else is happening there http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation). Those negative arguments are not easily dismissed, but I think that they sell humanity’s potential short. I am not saying that FE cannot be perilous, but its potential is a healed planet, a healed and sentient humanity, and something that looks like heaven on Earth. That FE is real and denied by 99.99% of humanity is surreal, but Godzilla has been carefully managing the situation, and the Great Herd has played along. That all the Heinbergs can see is the downside, without even acknowledging the upside, is bizarre, and just how Godzilla likes it.

    Because of some of the banter on this thread, I found myself listening again to Brian’s interview with Mike Adams from several years ago:

    http://www.naturalnews.com/podcasts/...leary-2008.mp3

    Oh, how I miss his voice. Brian sums it up well. The Lone Rangers of FE are easily picked off one at a time by Godzilla. But that is only part of it. Being betrayed by their own foibles and family, friends, and “allies,” and being targeted by the local energy interest predators, comprises a far greater hazard than Godzilla does. Godzilla only appears if aspirants survive the early levels of the game. That virtually all I get is denial when I discuss those facts is also part of the problem. Virtually all FE newbies think that making FE happen is easy, because they are now involved. Their egos get involved, and they think that they have the magic answer. Well, there is a magic answer, and it is love, the most mysterious force in the universe.

    I write about the Iroquois in my work:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#iroquois

    but I don’t romanticize them. Those were still brutal times:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#champlain

    and torturing captives to death was part of that culture.

    As I have stated plenty on this thread, I am hoping to help some people understand my message. Ilie largely does, and so do a few others whom I hear from at Avalon. As Ilie has remarked, that is surely not enough to make anything happen, and I’ll agree. My goal is to begin with a few Ilies, and find a few more, and a few more. Because of what I saw on my journey, I knew that there were two ways with a chance. One is what I call the hundred heroes model:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

    The problem is that there are not a hundred on the planet to find. Dennis is the only person on Earth that I ever heard of who could successfully complete this application:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    Heroes that could complete most of that application would also qualify, so I know of a few more, but it is only a few. But not only do those hundred heroes either not exist or are too scattered and anonymous that they can’t be rounded up and focused on the task, but the price that it extracts from each can be awesome, and I am not going to ask that of anybody. I am not looking for heroes. You really have to see what they go through to believe it.

    I saw how Level 10 efforts were doomed, as well as Levels 6, 7, 9, and 11, so I came up with something different. If I can just get thousands of people to wake up to the reality of FE and its potential, it might have a chance. Somebody told me on this thread that Greg Braden put a number of something like eight thousand people for that critical mass awareness. That is right in the range that I thought it would take (my estimate was 5-10 thousand). But the people that I am looking for are less than one-in-a-thousand in the general population. This is anything but an easy task, done in my “spare” time, after surviving my adventures and putting in several years of my time, for free, at it. I spent about ten years of my life, for free, doing this and I barely survived the experience, and I spent another ten years of my life digging out of the debt that those “working for free” years extracted from the family finances. That kind of eats up a life and precluded “frills” such as having children. There is nothing easy about what I am doing. FE would be the biggest event in human history, by far, so I figure it is worth my life to try to move the ball forward toward the goal line, while juggling my life, trying to live somewhat normally. Doing what I do beats watching TV, at least to me. I think that humanity is worth it, even though I don’t immediately dismiss all the negative arguments that people give me that humanity is a worthless piece of crap that deserves to go extinct.

    OK, I have digressed enough over the last week, dealing with forum posts. My mystical and fringe science posts are done for now. Back to the human journey, and more from the orthodox perspective. One way that you can tell that the areas that I am investigating are not being actively manipulated by Godzilla is that they change all the time. Radical theories appear on the scene and get tested. Some prevail, while others fall by the wayside. The image of the Mayans and their fall radically changed with advances in paleo-climate science and deciphering their writings. They were all-too-human, as usual. About thirty years ago, a radical new theory posited that a bolide impact wiped out the dinosaurs. It was hotly contested when it appeared, but the evidence won, and it is now the orthodox position:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ide#post530604

    For a number of years afterward, scientists proposed that bolide events caused all the mass extinctions, but that has now been disproven.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...dea#post509500

    Those are a few examples. When coming into the historical era, however, it can get more complex and difficult to unravel, but I am about to make the attempt.

    Where you can see glimpses of Godzilla’s hand is that we still drive gasoline-powered, internal combustion engines, a hundred years after we first started driving them. Thermodynamics has not fundamentally changed since the 19th century. Microscopes such as Rife’s and Naessens’s are banished from the halls of orthodoxy. Attacking the tumor is the only legal cancer “treatment” in the USA:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#racket


    Off to work now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    my first thought when clicking on your post was, 'Thank you, Wade, for treating me w/respect'

    a comment /response to these 2 quotes from your post:

    'As I have stated repeatedly, FE newbies always try to mass market it, and that will never work. The reasons are several, with humanity’s current lack of personal integrity being the main reason:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    That is not a judgment, just an observation that was the primary lesson of my journey. That brings up all sorts of questions, such as if humanity is a bunch of uncaring, semi-sentient killer apes, then why even try to help them? If they got their hands on FE, they would just destroy the planet with it, just like Heinberg and friends say they fear (but I think that something else is happening there '


    & this from your post:

    'Because of what I saw on my journey, I knew that there were two ways with a chance. One is what I call the hundred heroes model:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

    The problem is that there are not a hundred on the planet to find. Dennis is the only person on Earth that I ever heard of who could successfully complete this application:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    Heroes that could complete most of that application would also qualify, so I know of a few more, but it is only a few. But not only do those heroes not exist or are too scattered and anonymous that they can’t be rounded up and focused on the task, but the price that it extracts from each can be awesome, and I am not going to ask that of anybody. I am not looking for heroes. You really have to see what they go through to believe it. '


    i thought of something Alex Collier said in one of his talks, speaking to Earth Human men: 'You are heroes!' & [paraphrasing] 'believe in yourselves' -- i could go off on a tangent here re how Godzilla takes & perverts the natural idealism of boys & young men

    imo, the reason why you are continuing to try to get your message of truth out, knowing that it might cost you your life on this potential paradise of a planet -- & my own answer to Ilie' concern re how few are hearing -- which i sometimes express as 'Why bother?' -- i think you answered these concerns w/this from your post:

    'Well, there is a magic answer, and it is love, the most mysterious force in the universe.'

    i continue to try to carry my own rather difficult message of truth re Godzilla from the p.o.vv of a bloodline abductee/milab because there is so much that is good about Earth Humans -- & much of this goodness they share w/the other mammals on this planet -- music, dancing, joking around, love & care for mate & children, etc, etc

    wyn

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    Though she was one of my all time favorite teachers, I noticed that my Anthropology professor largely glossed over any discussion of Iroquois treatment of their war prisoners. I can understand however, as she is Native American herself, and when you compare many of the Native tribes to the Europeans, the later seem far worse. Still, the Northeast villages were definitely not utopias.

    I think I admire the Hopi most overall.

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    Quote Posted by A Wandering Ponderer (here)

    Adams writes: "...With essentially free energy powering a new generation of electric cars, trucks, planes and earth-moving equipment (with their Mr. Fusion devices on board), there is no longer any natural barrier to property development. Electric-powered personal aircraft would become practical and affordable, allowing the commercialization of previously remote sites. Even the paving of new roads and railways becomes remarkably cheap when energy costs nothing. Free energy could unleash the most drastic population explosion and development boom ever seen on our planet. And the result, I fear, would be the near-complete destruction of our natural world..."
    Hi everyone, I'm back from 3 weeks in the Philippines, it's nice to see so much thoughtful writing here recently.

    I've not read all of what Adams says, but the above quote nicely illustrates what I was saying a while back: The prevailing mentality is one that says "Free energy ? Yippee - bigger cars and more houses". The change in paradigm and mindset has to go hand-in-hand with the introduction of FE, and as has been said so often, the first step is awakening people to the possibility of a scarcity-free existence.

    My recent travels taught me a lot about people's perception of wealth and abundance, such that I've been considering starting a new thread around the topic, the contributions here are helping galvanize my (admittedly slow) thoughts !!

    Love to all, Philip

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    Hi

    This is in response to Wade mentioning Rife's and Naessens’s microscopes again and synchronicity with something i have read today Below is snippet from an articles hinting at "White Science" catching up with idea that light can be focused without using traditional, bulk, cumbersome and heavy lenses or parabolic mirrors.

    This is from August 23r, 2012 (encountered today):
    Quote Flat lens offers a perfect image
    August 23, 2012
    Ultrathin wafer of silicon and gold focuses telecom wavelengths without distortion

    Cambridge, Mass. – August 23, 2012 – Applied physicists at the Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS) have created an ultrathin, flat lens that focuses light without imparting the distortions of conventional lenses.

    At a mere 60 nanometers thick, the flat lens is essentially two-dimensional, yet its focusing power approaches the ultimate physical limit set by the laws of diffraction.

    Operating at telecom wavelengths (i.e., the range commonly used in fiber-optic communications), the new device is completely scalable, from near-infrared to terahertz wavelengths, and simple to manufacture. The results have been published online in the journal Nano Letters.

    “Our flat lens opens up a new type of technology,” says principal investigator Federico Capasso, Robert L. Wallace Professor of Applied Physics and Vinton Hayes Senior Research Fellow in Electrical Engineering at SEAS. “We’re presenting a new way of making lenses. Instead of creating phase delays as light propagates through the thickness of the material, you can create an instantaneous phase shift right at the surface of the lens. It’s extremely exciting.”
    (...)
    Full story: https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news-ev...-perfect-image

    If you think the above dilutes this thread i apologize and ask you to just acknowledge and then ignore my post
    Best wishes and free energy to all
    Robert

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    Hi:

    OK, back to the human journey. The authors of The 10,000 Year Explosion stated (p. 181),

    “Standard ecological theory indicates that when two similar populations use the same resources, the one with the greater carrying capacity always wins.”

    They introduced that idea as they made the case that herders that could now digest milk due to their genetic changes, and could thereby extract five times the energy from an acre of pasture than herders could, who could only raise grazing animals for meat, would expand at the expense of those that had that lower “carrying capacity.”

    Those herders with their milk-drinking ways conquered their world and spread their language (Indo-European), sky-god religion (one offshoot became the Judeo-Christian religions), and patriarchal social organization of priests, warriors, and herder/farmers far and wide. A couple thousand years after they began expanding, some of those who invaded northern Europe developed light hair and eyes (there is still controversy on the dates, but those two trends were closely intertwined). The genes for hair color and eye color are next to each other. This is how the blond-haired, blue-eyed milk maiden came to be. Once light-haired and light-eyed people appeared, it is thought that sexual selection spread the traits. Blond hair and blue eyes was novel and attractive. The ancient Greeks and Romans often died their hair blond:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond_hair#Southern_Europe

    In Earl Cook’s Man, Energy, Society, he wrote (p. 196):

    “In mass warfare as in individual fist fights, the good big man always beats the good little man. Big and little apply also to energy resources available to the combatants.”

    Cook then discussed how the availability of energy was the critical factor in a nation’s ability to wage war. In America’s Civil War, the South was more determined and more militarily talented than the North, but the South would not withstand the industrial capacity of the North, with its coal mines, steel, and railroads. Industrialized war took the horror to a new level, and having a secure energy supply was the key to victory. Japan invaded Manchuria for energy, for farming calories and most particularly to get at its coal mines:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Manchukuo#Coal

    Cutting off the German energy supply is what led to the end of World War I:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...r_I#Home_front

    To go back earlier, when Europe conquered the world, when the high energy societies of Europe met the Stone Age peoples from around the world, those low energy societies never had a chance. After the highly costly Napoleonic Wars, for the next century, Great Britain only waged war against non-industrialized nations that they could plunder. The USA has followed the same prescription since World War II. Only wage war against weak nations that can be exploited has been the American way in my lifetime.

    Today, from the world’s richest to poorest economies, energy consumption is the most important variable of economic output. I am putting up a chart from Smil’s Energy at the Crossroads to make that point. I also did so in my original energy essay of long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/gnpnrg.jpg

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#economics

    In both graphs, you can see that the USA’s energy consumption per GNP per capita is about the same as China’s. It really does not vary much, and never really has. Energy does the work. Earl Cook wrote (p. 272):

    “The principle that labor, when applied to energy resources, can be returned many times in new forms is the basis and hope of modern society.”

    But I want to take this dynamic much earlier, to the early civilization. The hunter-gatherer blitzkrieg that drove the easy meat to extinction did not last long. As I have written, the domestication of plants and animals happened independently in quite a few places on Earth, all in antiquity:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nea#post542587

    and about all the candidates for domestication were domesticated. Because the megafauna extinction was so thorough in the Americas, all candidates for draft animals went extinct, so the peoples of the Western Hemisphere had almost no domestic animals when the Europeans invaded. The Aztecs had the wheel, but only for children’s toys. Wheels and roads made no sense when there were no animals to pull the carts.

    But before plants were made into crops, in Syria about 14,000 years ago, entire villages subsisted on acorns. Acorns are not edible by humans unless they first have the tannic acid leached from them. Making acorns edible is one of the earliest instances of mass food processing. Many ancient cultures, particularly the Indians of California:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn#As_food

    subsisted on acorns, either partly or nearly wholly. The California natives had a kind of acorn warehouse that could feed a family for a couple of years. But having a stationary food supply like that effectively ended the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. A local and stationary energy supply is what led to civilization. The tribes of the Pacific Northwest were able to subsist on salmon running up the rivers to spawn. Salmon provided about half the calories of those societies. So, in a few places, sedentary societies formed without the need for agriculture (the oak tree has never been domesticated), but it was only in a few choice spots. Everywhere else, plants and animals needed to be domesticated.

    Proto-humans began evolving to eat more meat several million years ago. There has certainly been an adaptation to eating meat:

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Meat+i...ve-a0169311689

    but humans really are poor carnivores. If we look to our chimpanzee cousins, fruit was our mainstay long ago and continues to be the ideal human food. But leaving our homes meant adapting to other foods, reflecting our omnivorous heritage. But the seed and root crops, as well as milk products and domestic meat production, are all very recent innovations in the human diet, and we are not well adapted to them. They enabled people to get sufficient calories past their natural home in Africa, but it came with many prices, escalating violence being only one of them. Since few lived to a ripe old age until humanity could ride the energy wave of industrialization, the damaging effects of our diets did not become a major issue until only the past few centuries. The cellular damage (free-radical related) from consuming dead foods began taking a noticeable toll in “old age.” Today, our industrialized lifestyles have led to a host of maladies that did not exist in pre-industrial cultures, such as obesity (a coveted sign of wealth in many pre-industrial cultures), Alzheimer’s, and the epidemics of diabetes, artery disease, and cancer. All are directly traced to what we put in our bodies, with the genetic component of those diseases being very minor.

    But let’s go back again to the beginnings of the Domestication Revolution and the transition from being hunter-gatherers, and I’ll begin to cover it in the upcoming posts.

    I’ll get to the latest posts that have been made to this thread this weekend, but for now it is off to work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I did not want to go there, but this issue looks like it won’t easily die. I really don’t like analyzing the work of people who don’t understand, because almost nobody does. I would rather try to hit the notes that need to get hit. Mike Adams’s fear of free energy article is definitely a newbie effort:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post544282

    He does not understand the issues very well, but that is expected with newbies. It is a big issue, and easy to get lost.

    Anybody who knows much about this field knows that free energy and anti-gravity are joined at the hip. Both have been developed and both are suppressed by the same people, as my friend found out long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    So, with FE, cars quickly become obsolete, as do roads. Thinking that an outcome of FE is paving over the entire planet for our cars is an example of not thinking the issue through and not understanding the situation in the first place. We already have cars that drive themselves. Those who fear a sky filled with flying vehicles, crashing into each other, are projecting their fears and lack of understanding. Transportation will become a lot easier and safer and will have no environmental impact. It won’t become more hazardous, and we won’t pave over the planet for more cars or “stuff.” Urbanized civilization would quickly become obsolete, and living off-world and in all sorts of places considered “impossible” today becomes feasible with FE and related technologies. The technical issues are easy to overcome, and even the political-social ones.

    Adams is obviously unaware of industrialized world demographics and key global trends. When women were liberated by rising standards of living in the industrial world, and having large families was no longer the peasant’s route to wealth, birthrates went down:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...onomic_paradox

    Given an education and options other than being a baby machine, virtually no woman wants to spend her life giving birth to endless babies and caring for them. Pregnancies and childbirth take a lot out of a woman, and that life of drudgery is only an “attractive” option for an ignorant and repressed population. In my lifetime, births per woman have dropped globally from nearly five to a little over two:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_f...haracteristics

    and it is the poor who are having large families today, not the well off.

    The only way that we will see another population boom is if women go back to being barefoot, illiterate, baby machines. The advent of FE would see a skyrocketing standard of living for all peoples, so putting all women back in the kitchen, pregnant and illiterate, sure seems like a highly unlikely outcome to me. Of course, those patriarchal, sky-god religions always like big families to fill up the pews and coffers, so church-going women have more children than those that don’t:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...radox#Religion

    but organized religions would end, too, because they are all based on scarcity and fear:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    especially those religions have their roots in agrarian and pastoral economies.

    I am aiming far higher than those newbie understandings that Adams has displayed, or the kindergarten stuff in Thrive.

    I am not trying to awaken the masses with talk. They have never been awakened by talk. They only awaken when they can experience a new reality, just like Machiavelli said:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    Asking them to wake up before they have the means to wake up may be what some people are trying, but I found out long ago what a loser that was, and I have no interest in it. The reactions to FE of over 99.9% of the population that hears about FE are dismissals in Levels 1, 2, or 3:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

    or the “helpful” level 4 (well over 99% end up in those early levels), or the inexperienced/delusional Levels 5 to 11. Almost nobody gets to Level 12, but they disappear into one of the lower levels and usually stay there, sometimes bouncing between the lower levels if they keep thinking about it.

    After being on this path for most of my life, I believe that Machiavelli was right, particularly where FE and abundance are concerned, which would be the biggest seismic shift in the human journey. Brian O and I learned that one the hard way:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

    I am looking for needles in haystacks, not a way to wake up the masses with talk and proselytizing. That is the old way.

    Hi Enishi:

    That old Indian that a pal channeled took a journey from the northern plains (what became Sioux country) to the Hopis about three thousand years ago, as a spiritual quest. The Hopis were the spiritual masters of that part of the world. That old Indian also said that the Indians had gone through a long period of spiritual decline when the Europeans invaded, which is partly why Europe was able to invade. But it looks like the Hopis kept enough of their spiritual act together to where they indeed had probably the most inspiring story of all the native tribes, as far as how they survived the invasion.

    Hi Wynderer:

    My approach is not Godzilla-centric, although he stepped on me and I gave him some interesting days in the office. I acknowledge him, but do not focus on him. He is really a small part of the problem, and conspiracism is big at Avalon, but it is a disease, IMO:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

    The coming posts will be back on the human journey.

    Thanks,

    Wade
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