What does it mean - BE Christian?

[kreagle]

I will not stand in the house of Peter

Wisdom tells me to 'listen to the one with the keys to the kingdom of Heaven!" Those 'keys' were in-trusted to Peter for a reason.

My peace goes with you, ljwheat,.....I wish you nothing but the best. When your anger abates, I prayerfully ask you to reconsider your 'claim', above.



Folks,......it's 'times like these',....portrayed in this 'video clip' that tell the 'full story',.......enjoy!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lSEsloaY4WM

Your brother, friend, and servant,.........in Jesus' name,.................kreagle

[Krullenjongen]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
A true Christian, carries a bible but only believe the interpolation of his local pulpit, and not what’s in it.

One simple statement proves this, “thou shall not pray before men, but go in secret and speak to your father" ( not Jesus ) he always pointed to his father never to himself.

In my opinion this is not true, at least not in the churches i have been to and they are many different ones. Christians are encouraged to read and studie their bible.
How else can you get to know God and Jesus.
You can't really get to know God if you just listen to a sermon for half an hour a week.
And Jesus did point to himself as shown in the verses below.

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"

John 10:9 "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."

We are told to do a lot more in His name and not in the Fathers name like gather in His name, pray in His name and ask for things (in prayer) in His name.
See the verses below.

Math 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my (Jesus) name, there am I in the midst of them."

Marc 16:17 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my (Jesus) name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;"

John 14:13 "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my (Jesus) name, that will I (Jesus) do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son."

[Prayer Warrior]

You're missing the whole reason and purpose of this sacrifice and blood.... it was to pay for our sins. The first four covenants of the Bible in the old testament required blood (sin equals death), but God allowed animal blood in place of our own to restore our relationship with Him. The New Covenant (testament) God asked His Son Jesus to die one time to pay for sin, allow repentance for remission of our sins.




QUOTE=kreagle;544 932]

Posted by Krullenjongen (here)
I thought i would also drop a soundbite here.
Doesn't anyone here feel it is necessary to be saved by Jesus Christ to be a Christian???

In my opinion a christian is someone who has been saved by Jesus Christ (the process of repentance, forgiveness and babtism) and is a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings.

Krullenjongen,

You, my brother, are 'hitting the proverbial head of the nail',......dead center!

The simple process of repentance, (death),....water baptism, (burial),.....and.......recieving the Spirit, (resurrection),.....constitute the fullness of the 'Gospel Message'!

When the 'original Church' was born, on the Day of Pentecost,.....I ask 'each of you' to notice, carefully, what the 'message was' that was preached to 'them', in order for them to have 'achieved this status of,......'death,.. burial,.. and resurrection'!!

I, prayerfully, ask you, (in the Holy Ghost),......to open your hearts and see what the Apostle Peter preached, here, to those who were attempting to 'enter that original Church', spoken about above.....


Acts 2:37-39
King James Version (KJV)

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.


Do you see it?..........

Do you see the 'magnitude of Peter's words/message here'?

Do you recognize the 'connection here with what Krullenjongen' is saying?

Can you see the 'death,.....burial,....and...resurrection' interwoven into God's plan, here?

Did you know that this is, quite simply,.....'the Gospel Message'?


(The Apostle Paul actually 'defines the Gospel'!,......"Did you know that?")

In Jesus' name,.....'keep your heart open, a little longer'.......


1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version (KJV)

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


Paul, literally, says here......."I declare unto you,......the gospel,.......first of all,.......Christ died,.......he was buried,......he rose again!"


And herein we have the 'simplicity of the Gospel Message',....the death,...the burial,...and the resurrection,.....of Jesus Christ!

Not only do we 'understand and acknowledge' what Jesus did for us,.... 'exactly',....with His death, burial, and resurrection,.....but now we also,....'understand and acknowledge' how,...we,too,....can 'follow in His same footsteps',....be 'Christ-like',...be a 'Christian',......and 'experience our own personal,....death, burial, and resurrection'!,.......NOT......in a 'physical way' like He did,.......but in a 'spiritual way'!!

How?,.....by simply obeying the same message that Peter delivered on the Day of Pentecost, described above!

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Once you have completed this discribed 'death, burial, and resurrection' in a 'spiritual way',.......you are now ready to follow the 'rest of Krullenjongen's advice........

and is a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings.

It's,.......just.......as simple........as that!!


Your friend, brother, and servant.........kreagle[/QUOTE]

[kreagle]

Prayer Warrior,

Hey, brother, see you've been here for a 'little while',....but haven't posted a lot,.....so 'glad to hear from you!'

You're missing the whole reason and purpose of this sacrifice and blood.... it was to pay for our sins. The first four covenants of the Bible in the old testament required blood (sin equals death), but God allowed animal blood in place of our own to restore our relationship with Him. The New Covenant (testament) God asked His Son Jesus to die one time to pay for sin, allow repentance for remission of our sins.

I will agree with you, brother, that 'mainstream Christianity' focuses 'exclusively' on the scenario you've quoted above,....commonly called a 'John 3:16', experience. The problem with this,....from a pure 'Gospel' standpoint,....is that the 'proponents of these teachings' simply stop, there. Then, they either eliminate, abolish, or simply ignore the 'complete Gospel cycle' of,.... repentance,....water baptism in Jesus' name,....and the infilling of the Holy Ghost, as Peter instructed the 'original Church' to do, and obey, at it's inauguration. ( see Acts 2:37-38)

I, prayerfully, ask you to, once again, read my 'earlier post, (#71)', on this 'vitally important' topic , which constitutes the 'fullness of the Gospel Message'. Anything short of this, my dear brother, is simply 'incomplete and not full!'

I'm sure you will agree with me, brother, that the personal 'salvation of our soul' is nothing to be 'played around with!'


Let me 'share another passage' with you, brother......

Mark 8:34-35
King James Version (KJV)

34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.


A 'reminder of this passage' to most potential 'believers/Christians' is almost universally met with 'rejection' because let's face it,....."who wants anything to do with having a personal cross to bear?" However, that does become very problematic,....doesn't it?,.....because after all,....He, (Jesus), did plainly require it of you,...and I,....did he not?

Lest we think there is a 'loophole', here, of escape from His directive,....He plainly states here......


Matthew 10:38
King James Version (KJV)

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.


I'm afraid that 'our best laid plans' to escape the cross have been 'completely nullified by the Word of God',.....doesn't it?

Many, if not most, will protest and say,......"You mean to tell me that in order for me to 'follow after Him',.....I'm going to be required to take up 'my own personal cross',...and 'follow him to a place of death,....also?"

Yes,...my dear friend,....that's 'exactly' what Jesus referred to here,...for both you,...and I!!

In 'horror' you, like so many more,...frantically ask,...."How?,.....or why?",......

The 'how and why',...becomes 'crystal clear',....when we each finally accept the 'simplicity of the Gospel Message'. It was made simple to begin with,....and through the 'evil hearts of men',....and of course, a lot of help by Satan,...deception and diversion have filtered in to 'muddy the waters' of God's Salvation Plan for mankind!

Herein we have the 'simplicity of the Gospel Message',....the death,...the burial,...and the resurrection,.....of Jesus Christ!

Not only do we 'understand and acknowledge' what Jesus did for us,.... 'exactly',....with His death, burial, and resurrection,.....but now we also,....'understand and acknowledge' how,...we,too,....can 'follow in His same footsteps',....be 'Christ-like',...be a 'Christian',......and 'experience our own personal,....death, burial, and resurrection'!,.......NOT......in a 'physical way' like He did,.......but in a 'spiritual way'!!

How?,.....by simply obeying the same message that Peter delivered on the Day of Pentecost! (Acts 2:38)

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

There is a 'very valid reason', my dear friend, Prayer Warrior, why our Lord, Jesus, entrusted the Apostle Paul with the 'keys to the kingdom of Heaven'!

Something 'very magical and glorious' was opened with 'those keys', my dear, dear, friend!

This is, by no means, a,....'play on words!',.....It's literally......"The Word in Play!"


Mark 4:9
King James Version (KJV)

9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.


God richly bless you, Prayer Warrior,......I'm praying for you!,........kreagle

P.S. Let's discuss this some more,.....shall we?

[kreagle]

This picture, and others like it, really touch my heart and certainly expresses 'Christian principles' when you look down, deep inside, of the common handshake.



I used this identical image on another thread by Beren,....'Beauty will Save the World', just very recently. I also felt that it certainly belonged in this thread, also, for all the reasons I will submit below.

When done correctly, in the pureness of heart and acceptance, the handshake is one of the most beautiful concepts and gestures we have at our disposal. Virtually every aspect of it's deployment is 'God-centered and orchestrated'. Just off the top of my head, the handshake reveals,......salutation, acceptance, love, goodwill, good luck, thanks, Godspeed, congratulations, unity, concern, condolences, etc. By the handshake,......business deals are made,....a man's/woman's word is given,....treaties have been sealed,......foes are united in brotherhood,......, just to name a few. I won't go any further, in reference to the handshake, because a simple study of the word, itself, reveals a virtual 'religion in itself' as to the magnitude and meaning behind a simple gesture we do on a daily basis. The eye-to-eye contact,....the human touch,....which both accompany the handshake make the very act of a handshake perhaps one of the greatest tools that we have in the arsenal of our human experience. The handshake is completely universal in application and it's effects touch every nook and crevice of our planet. Handshakes definitely matter! Think about it more carefully the next time you take another 'fellow human being by the hand!'


Love and Peace,......your brother, friend, and servant,.......kreagle

[kreagle]

Do we 'reflect the proper image',( as a Christian),....or do our actions cause us to cast 'serious doubt?'






Love and peace to all,.......kreagle

[Beren]

Being Christian means a lonely path ,until you find your brothers and sisters-twin flames and soul friends.
It is a truthful path sans religion.
Outside it appears as religious but inside it`s sheer divine one because without direct link with God you simply cannot make it, cannot thread it.

It means death to your own old persona and new life - rebirth into a new soul experience and is above religion`s interpretation.

Jesus was not Christian - he was and is Christ.
Jesus just is.

God`s image and God in flesh and God`s son. All in one.
Just as we all are.

And to be Christian means to give up illusion and sweet talks of lie.
It means to BE Love to others and yourself and to love everybody as yourself .

To treat all as you would treat God or Jesus...

Easy???

No way...but it`s the soul imprint and soul choice to just Be Christian - to be holy.