* a b u n d a n c e *

[mosquito]

This thread is a sort of spin-off from Wade’s thread, where he talks in-depth about the abundance and scarcity paradigms, specifically in relation to free energy. I believe abundance deserves its’ own discussion space as it’s a huge topic and is possibly an issue for many people here. The impetus for starting this discussion has come from my recent trip to the Philippines, where a number of issues were brought into focus for me.

I’ve got a ton of stuff I want to write about, so in order to preserve my own (wavering) sanity and to not bore you all senseless, I’ll try to keep my posts short and to the point.

So to kick off, where am I coming from ? I was brought up by a single mother in 60s and 70s Britain. Money was a taboo subject and there was never enough. Even as a teenager I could see that the government deliberately kept people from being wealthy, though at the time I had no real idea as to why, I just supposed it was a hangover from the war and the rationing system.

Jumping forward to the 90s (the 80s and Thatcherism is relevant to the topic, but not to what I’m saying right now), I was an out of work student of Chinese medicine, just getting started on my journey, looking at anything and everything, including the new-age prosperity stuff. Well, that probably caused me more problems than it solved and is also a subject for another post. It did however help me to see what true abundance is and to focus on more than just money.

Since then I’ve had many changes, I’ve been a wealthy computer contractor, and I’ve lived in a slum in Peru where I LITERALLY had no money. Right now, I can honestly say I have a rich and abundant life, but money is still an issue for me !! I’m well off by local standards and have in recent years learned how to manage what I have. But I still have a deeply ingrained fear of poverty/lack, and any hint of there not being enough money is liable to trigger a petulant emotional response. (Please be honest with yourselves here folks).

I’m fairly well-travelled and have observed many different cultures and systems, so where I’d like to go with this thread is for us to address some issues:

What is your experience of abundance/scarcity ? What does prosperity mean for you ?

Is it really possible for humanity to live in a world where there is abundance for EVERYONE, and there is no krypto-slavery ?

If you think the answer to that question is a simple “yes” then please tell me who will make your free-energy device ? Your toilet paper ? Your toothbrush ? Your razor blades ? Who will build your home ? Make your clothes ? etc. etc.

I don’t believe we’re likely to go back to an over-romanticized “native” way of life, we either evolve or we’re screwed. But what do YOU think ?

Please let’s be honest and polite, this has the potential to develop into a fruitful and mutually beneficial discussion, which is surely what Avalon is all about.

Love to all, Philip

[music]

Thank you for bringing up this important concept. What is abundance? What it means to me has certainly changed during the course of my journey. Abundance now encompasses so much more than just financial security. In fact, money is perhaps one of the lowest priorities for me. I wish for abundance for those worse off than myself more than I do for myself. Abundance to me means exactly what I need to survive without stress, and to be able to be most effective to the greater good. I am not rich financially, but in every other way I am. I trust that if and when the time comes that i require more monetary abundance, it will be provided for me as long as I remain true of heart. Abundance is an energetic thing, and I would like to quote my partner's words on the subject of the energetics of money, if I may?

The Flow of Riches

John D. Rockefeller, the wealthiest man on Earth at the time, was once asked ‘How much money is enough’. His answer was “Just a little bit more”.

Most of us look to money to provide us with security. If we just had enough we could relax and coast through life. But as the quote from Rockefeller demonstrates, one rarely reaches a point of true contentment when money is the means of achieving it. As we look at the world around us and see how we have damaged the planet, and each other, in our mad attempt to chase the dollar, more and more people are realizing that it is high time we change our relationship with money.

We often hear that money is energy, and that we need to learn to love the energy of money in order to attract it. Recently, however, I came across a new way to look at money that really resonated with me. In this new way of looking at money we take the idea of energy a step further. Money is not just energy, it is a symbol that represents a life force. A life force whose purpose is to flow, nurture, and connect the planet and its inhabitants.

Access to this life force should be a natural part of our being. But because we have come to associate the accumulation of money with security and power this life force is being hoarded, and thus obstructed, and not permitted to flow in a natural way. True security and inner power come from trusting ourselves and our relationship with the universe, not from mass accumulations of money.

Another crucial aspect to shifting our relationship with this life force is to stop seeing money as something ‘out there’ that we need to ‘earn’. Instead we need to internalise this force, by aligning ourselves with it inside, and creating a cooperative relationship. One way to align with this force is to honour its purpose by doing what feels right. This is in relation to both how it flows to us, and from us. This means choosing employment that feels right and meaningful to us, and then using the energy generated by this activity to support individuals, companies and organizations that don’t abuse the planet and its inhabitants for their own gains. By aligning with this life force we become part of its natural flow, participating in a dance that nurtures and supports the whole.

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[Tarka the Duck]

It's interesting to look back on one's life and realise that a feeling of abundance doesn't necessarily correlate to physical wealth. There have been times when we have really struggled financially, and looking back on those periods makes me wonder how on earth we got through them - but I never felt "pooforay the time. Now that we are more financially stable, I think there is a greater feeling of insecurity...

I hope I haven't missed the point of this thread, Philip

[Corncrake]

This is interesting and important. I have lurked on Wade's thread since its inception and consider it one of the best on the forum but I have never felt I had anything constructive to add to it as so many others have expressed their opinions so much better than I can. However, I will have a go here FWIW! I am one of five who was brought up in the country in an artist's home. I was always aware that there was not very much money to go around and so did not ask for anything much. My father came from Wales and lived through the Great Depression and brought us up to be grateful for what we had. Thanks to having creative parents, art, music and literature were a large part of my upbringing but being the fourth child a lot of my clothes and possessions were ‘hand me downs’. My upbringing is deeply engrained and definitely colours my outlook on life. I loathe waste of any kind and in particular today's built in obsolescence. Having said that financially my life has been a bit of a roller coaster and along the way - from an economic perspective though not a moral one - have made some bad decisions. I find it difficult to 'think abundance' because I have a sense of guilt – at least on a personal level - that it is wrong. Yes I know this sounds crazy! It is something like the protestant work ethic that rewards have to be earned. As I have grown older I have become less and less interested in materialistic objects and when I watch documentaries such ‘Super Rich The Greed Game’ feel happy with my life’s choices http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...22889894137433

Of course I support the idea of 'free energy' - I am an environmentalist - but free energy itself raises many issues. There will always be people out there who will abuse it which I think is partly Wade’s point that until we are in the right mindset we will not get it. It is not enough to just imagine a peaceful future of abundance one has to feel it in one’s heart.

[mosquito]

Thanks to you all for the contributions so far !!

Corncrake: I think what you say is true of so many who were brought up in post-war Britain, and other places too probably. I've had a struggle overcoming the idea that money is of itself bad, not helped by the fact that wherever I go, the rich people I meet tend not to be the nicest !!

Tarka: You haven't missed the point at all !! I'm in a similar position, when I look back on life, the time I was most fulfilled was when I was living on a low, but beautifully earned income.

Music: Thanks for all that, some truly amazing insights ! I no longer see money as "energy", I think one of the cons of the new-age prosperity movement is in making people believe it IS energy and that anyone without money is "blocking" it in some way (come on baby feeeel that guilt). Place a $100 bill on the table and watch what it can achieve on its' own - nothing. I see it as more of a tool, which is only of any use in someone's hands. Having said that, I fully get your point, I reckon that what's happened over the centuries is that we've become almost totally dependent on money, to the point where we fail to connect to the life-force, and in fact are brought up to believe there is no such thing. That has to change.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I'm struggling with the abundance issue too.

In my life, what I have made this mean is that I am abundant in talent and intelligence but scarce in resources and time. This has led to some hard choices, often accompanied by guilt and fear. Money has not been my driving force and so I have suffered accordingly.

I have learned that you can never have enough money. And that in terms of money: when it rains it pours or there is drought - no in between. Also, I always find myself trying to pay my way out of a "hole" and rarely free to save or spend money.

For me, abundance is the freedom from the distracting emotions brought on by the fear of survival through the use of intellectual, spiritual and technological innovation. Abundance to me means being supported by and in turn supporting a society based on respect and fair play. It would be a novel world, a future world. It would be a world of peace, where all would enjoy security of person upheld by the highest codes of honor and valor. It would be a world where your rights would be protected by your neighbors. It would be a world that all are proud to call their own.

Abundance is freedom and freedom comes at a high price. We are right now working out that price on the world stage. What price has freedom? How valuable is abundance?

In a world based on scarcity, abundance is the enemy.

[aranuk]

Can I add a wee bit of humour here? I once read graffitti on a wall in the 60's which read: If sh*t became currency the working class would be born without arse holes.

Stan

[cloud9]

Well, I have always wondered how or what rich people think different than the rest but there's a difference between being born rich and becoming rich so I'd say the example to follow would be the second one, right?

As many, I've always have enough to pay rent and survive more or less, I've never been hungry or in a dire situation but also never I had noticeable excess as money in the bank to pay for a whole vacation or trip, actually I've taken very few vacations in my life, always because of not having the money to do it.

What I've noticed is that with the lack of money comes lack in other areas too, let's say not too many friends, bad relationships or not the best health and so on so it's truly a bigger problem.

Through the years I've learned to always trust than I'll have enough money to pay my bills and some more for clothes or whatever and it never fails. Some years ago when The Secret came out I bought a course about abundance from a lady called Carole Dore, it was expensive for me then (US$700) but I never regretted buying it. I listened to it for many hours, it's very nice and funny. I learned a few things but here are the two most important ones:

- Your job is not your source of income or abundance, you already know what or who your Source is.
- She teaches an exercise that helps you to get in tune and to feel more everything, more abundant, happier, healthier, etc.

I practiced this exercise for some months and I have to tell that it's really impressive, some days I was so happy that I was singing all day long and many times I opened my purse or wallet and I found $20 bills that weren't there before, I remember one day I was buying something through the internet and I had to open my wallet several times, to make the story short I found 8 $20 bills (not at the same time) through the day, this happened very often (the $20 bills).

Now that I'm telling the story I'm thinking that I need to start again asap doing it, it was a great time.

She also said that she experimented with this (abundance and lack of) for many years, forcing herself to be in not so good situations so she would practice what she knew and prove to herself that it was her exercise and view of the whole thing what was working.

Since that very time I've never worried again about money or how I'm going to pay mi bills, I've been out of job for months at a time and I always have money for everything I need but again, I haven't been able to manage to have more.

Perhaps we can share ideas or techniques that have worked and see what comes out of it?

[Melinda]

Posted by mariposafe (here)
...Is it really possible for humanity to live in a world where there is abundance for EVERYONE, and there is no krypto-slavery ?

If you think the answer to that question is a simple “yes” then please tell me who will make your free-energy device ? Your toilet paper ? Your toothbrush ? Your razor blades ? Who will build your home ? Make your clothes ? etc. etc....

...Love to all, Philip

Interesting question Philip.
The way I've imagined it, the transition to a world without "krypto-slavery" will be a gradual one. Eventually free-energy will lead us to a point where the devices themselves will be able to create/manufacture our clothes, toilet paper, homes etc. It may be strange to imagine, but if you showed a 3D printer (which exists now) to someone from an ancient indigenous tribe who'd never left their jungle habitat, they'd find it hard to fathom the technology.
3D printer: http://youtu.be/pQHnMj6dxj4

What free-energy will eventually enable would be far more advanced than the 3D printer, and work on different principals in terms of utilising energy and effecting matter in the manufacture process. In the long term, large manufacturing plants, factories and building methods will become a thing of the past. So if you decided to start a family, you could effectively build an extension to your house using the free-energy technology in your back-yard. It's also likely that free energy would revolutionise our 'housing,' so that it would be portable, even a ship of sorts, which is kinder to the land. Technically there could still be a transition period requiring building-permits and areas of protected land etc to prevent every earth inhabitant from excitedly building a 500 room mansion. But eventually I think the novelty of having unnecessary levels of luxury (because it had been denied so long it became an itch and a craving) would wear off. Wanting excess is not a natural aspect of our nature. For many of us it's more a product of struggling with not having enough whilst watching others have more than enough.

With free-energy you could grow a little garden with a waterfall, for your house-pod, right in the middle of the desert if you wanted to. With the aid of picture software I made a little mock up using other people's photos (not my best work ) Then of course, you might prefer to take your house-pod into space and look at our beautiful planet from a distance.



The other point we could make about work 'enslaving' people is that a world of abundance does not mean that people who have a passion for exploring and practicing certain disciplines will suddenly cease to be engaged by those interests. So you will still have scientists who want to explore their field of interest, engineers and designers who want to experiment with new ideas of what inspires us, artists who want to create and share their expressions etc. Any field you can imagine, there will still be people who have a natural gravitation towards those subjects and vocations - but the key difference will be that the way they spend their time, what they choose to explore/create and focus on, will not be dictated by whether or not it can 'make a profit' (financially) - a profit that is usually for someone else. Instead they will be free to create for inspiration's sake, and free to explore what will profit the larger collective for more decent, fun and spiritual purposes. So work itself, if you are doing it for the love of it, doesn't feel like work. A doctor or a vet still loves healing others, a dancer still loves to dance. But if a doctor isn't needed all day in hospital (thanks to free-energy healing technology) then he or she is free to do the other things they love that uplift their spirit; like scubadive (to learn about the environment), play the piano (to entertain fellow music lovers), or study ancient history (to better understand the past.) These aren't the only reasons for doing those things, just examples of how all the wonderful ways we spend our time, if we have it, can benefit both us and others.

I also think that with that freedom from drudgery comes a world with less resentment, so far more people would feel inclined towards taking responsibility for the community, and volunteering their skill, simply because it is logical and it feels good to do so. As Ernie said,

"It would be a world where your rights would be protected by your neighbors."

A free energy world where everyone has a warm, safe home, clean food and water, time to develop their skills and interests etc, is a world that people would naturally want to tend and keep running. So if that involved volunteering time for things that benefit the system, it wouldn't even be a 'small price to pay,' just a logical aspect of life. For example, there exist in the world small communities where food and shelter are provided for all members, and everyone has to take their turn in the kitchen or the crop fields to earn their place there. But in a free energy world a lot of these 'physical' jobs would be drastically reduced, as would the time needed to complete the tasks. So what takes someone a full working week might only take them an hour with free-energy technology. In some respects we already have technology to free our time in this way, but people are still hooked into a system that has them working longer hours because the people at the top of the financial pyramid profit from a slave race; its not that a slave race is technically needed.

Corncrake, I feel you made such a valuable point when you said

" I find it difficult to 'think abundance' because I have a sense of guilt... [portion missing] ...It is something like the protestant work ethic that rewards have to be earned."

I'm so glad you commented. I think a lot of people feel this way. It reaches into so many things. Various institutions have done very well out of making people feel they needed to earn respect or even a place in heaven by working themselves to the bone. In the history we're taught, the dominant frame of reference available to us throughout the ages is a world of scarcity where people needed to labour intensively in order to keep the wheels of daily life turning. But its apparent that some of the individuals and collectives scaring greater numbers of people into working hard to earn respect etc, were usually the individuals doing the least manual labour and enjoying the material 'perks' that the labourers were denied. The idea of 'earning' rewards doesn't itself seem like a bad idea. I believe in earning back someone's trust for example, if for some reason I lost it due to my own error. It's just a shame that the principal of earning something good has been corrupted in certain instances by those who lived by a kind of "do as I say, not as I do" type of ethic.

With free energy available, every individual can have enough to feed/house/clothe themselves (etc) using technology in their own back yard. So there is no need to turn up to a job where you are a cog in a slave system, just to feed someone else's desire to have more than you. You no longer need to do that job to pay the heating bill, water bill (water and electricity plants would be redundant), or to buy food (you could grow your own.) Nor would you need to work to pay for your house, since it wouldn't 'cost' to build and maintain one the way it does now.

The people on this planet who would love this free-energy world, and would become more loving and less competitive as a result, far out number those who are trapped in their own greed. That is why free-energy is such a closely guarded secret. But it can, and eventually will be, the natural way we progress - if we can believe it enough, and call it into being with loving hearts and imaginations that long for and visualise the healing of our race.

For anyone who has read this far down my post ...

If you haven't already, come and imagine something over at the "Future Earth" thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...A-Future-Earth

Or the "What Technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy" thread.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...by-Free-Energy

Even if it's only a couple of lines or one idea, I love reading people's posts on those threads! I think this thread complements them too. The more of us can share our imaginings, the more beautiful these threads become.

[centreoflight]

Posted by mariposafe (here)

I’m fairly well-travelled and have observed many different cultures and systems, so where I’d like to go with this thread is for us to address some issues:

What is your experience of abundance/scarcity ? What does prosperity mean for you ?

Is it really possible for humanity to live in a world where there is abundance for EVERYONE, and there is no krypto-slavery ?

If you think the answer to that question is a simple “yes” then please tell me who will make your free-energy device ? Your toilet paper ? Your toothbrush ? Your razor blades ? Who will build your home ? Make your clothes ? etc. etc.

I don’t believe we’re likely to go back to an over-romanticized “native” way of life, we either evolve or we’re screwed. But what do YOU think ?

Please let’s be honest and polite, this has the potential to develop into a fruitful and mutually beneficial discussion, which is surely what Avalon is all about.

Love to all, Philip

Like you Philip I am very well travelled. I know the slums of Peru and India and I have observed them. I observed the mind of those people. They know about abundance, their eyes are shining. What keeps them alive?

The more answer I search, the more questions are arising. So I like to focus on your questions!

My experience with abundance/scarcity? wrote abundancy .........

My programming was that my father had a good job as an artist or better explained as handyman and good friend; attacked daily by his hysteric wife about how useless he is! She was so convincing that I believed her and carried that program for years later. Only after the death of my father I could realize that the story was quite a different one. My father was the one who recognized me and gave me the clear message that free will is connected with freedom. He gave me absolute freedom of choosing my destiny. My mother didn't! She was from the beginning in a frame of mind to influence this child in a way, that it could be a "civilized" person. She did not succeed, I am still the free spirit I was when I was a young boy fighting against the elements.

My abundance experience started when I was thrown out of my 20 years yob as an employee of a big Swiss bank. The 9 years stage in India has helped me to change my brain. What I have learned there is of enormous abundance. My goal from that moment on was to invest rather then in material things, I invested in my personality. I proved to myself that I can survive in very stressful situations.
This for my is the great gift of the Universe: The feeling of being free in the immediacy of any perception. Said in other words: Any conflict is resolved instantly. When I live according to this philosophy then all is in the right place and all my actions are in accordance to the Divine Plan.
Does this make any sense?
It is possible I answer to your second question! We need to free our mind from previous programming and uncover all the lies we have been exposed to. It starts with our own family.
~And if you say it is possible, it is! And if you say it is not, then it is not!
The next one is more difficult. It starts with the affirmation that this is possible. Toilet paper we do not need in India! Toothbrush we use a piece of wood of the Neemtree. We will grow a beart. There are many skilled workers who know exactly how to build a home with the materials available in nature around them. Cloth we have enough at present, later on we will see how to deal with that one....etc.....
I also do not believe that we will go back to the Stoneage, maybe we will? I see the future full of exiting technology, but at the same time I feel that the people will be able to switch it all of and connect to nature and their true nature.
This is my honest and polite contribution for today.
Love you All
George

[mosquito]

Wow, I'm bowled over by the depth of all your responses ! It's wonderful to see everyone's experience so far and your vision of the future.

AWP: Thanks for coming here, your posts on Wade's thread are always so insightful.

Ernie: I couldn't agree more !

Centreoflight: Thanks for sharing your experiences, maybe I'l get round to describing my entire Peruvian adventure, it was a lifetime's experience all rolled into a short period.

Cloud9: I agree, it would be nice for people to share what works for them, and it may also be useful to share what doesn't work. I'll start .....

When I was a practising acupunctursist, I was completely unable to budget or plan my life. If I made a payment based on predicted income, then the number of patients corresponding to that amount would cancel their appointments (I kid you not, this went on for years !!!) Basically, I found, and still do find, that focussing on money had the exact opposit effect to that desired.

What works for me, infallably, is to focus on my passion and joy, which is loving girls. (Anyone tempted to misunterpret that or project their own issues onto me is kindly requested to go away). When I make that the object of my day, or my week, everything is wonderful, I receive more love than I ever dreamed possible, and I have no worries, money sems irrelevant and guess what, there's always enough.

I hope we can keep this rolling, I have so many experiences I want to share over the coming weeks, and I appreciate everyone's contribution.

Love to all, Philip

[RunningDeer]

What does prosperity/abundance mean to me?

Abundance is having the freedom to not live by clock-time.
Abundance is can’t wait to jump out of the bed to begin the day all over again.
Abundance is knowing that I do not need to travel great distances to find who I am.
Abundance is not needing to collect stuff.
Abundance is not needing outside heroes to complete me.
Abundance is freedom.
Abundance is knowing I can choose anywhere I want to be and I choose right here.
Abundance is a partnership with Higher Self.
Abundance is creativity.
Abundance is a walk in the woods.
Abundance is a hot cup of coffee.
Abundance is unfolding.
Abundance is the joy of the unknown and the patience to discover it.
Abundance is inner knowing that everything is emerging in it’s Blessed way.
Abundance is Silence.
Abundance is the ability to forgive.
Abundance is knowing that not much really matters like I once believed.
Abundance is always evolving.
Abundance is the decision that scarcity is no longer a part of my experience.
Abundance is sharing with another.
Abundance is Love.
Abundance is simplicity.
Abundance is bird songs.
Abundance is Wolfie, my Yorkie, taking me for a walk.

[modwiz]

A bun dance means entertainment to me.

Abundance is the state of grace I live in. Once it clicked it has been just keeping the rabble, and their negativity, out of my life.

Abundance is our natural state. When it fails, it is a system failure.

[kreagle]

mariposafe,

The concept of 'abundance' is something that we, humans, basically covet. It seems that we can 'never get enough', so we consequently spend the majority of our lives scurrying about in an all out 'collection mode!' It's in this particular mode that we mimic the lifestyle of the 'squirrel'. We scurry about, collecting as many 'nuts' as we can, storing them away in a 'safe place' for the 'hard times ahead'. Undisturbed 'caches of stored nuts', rotten and forgotten, have actually been found at a later date by lumberjacks and outdoorsmen. What happened to the squirrel? Did he, or she, die?,...or had they simply forgotten where they had stored their 'precious cargo?'

Almost universally, the concept of 'abundance' is tied to 'money or material possessions'. As pointed out by a 'few' of you, this is certainly not the true and lasting definition to the word,.....'abundance'. To those who seemingly cannot escape the vicious grip of the 'universal concept of abundance' describe earlier,....they often wind up just like our friend, the squirrel,....storing away as 'many nuts as possible'. How many tragic stories have we all heard,....where a 'hidden cache' was uncovered around an 'old farm house', etc? Is it possible, my friends, that in 'our' frantic desire for 'abundance',...we 'all' foolishly scurry about collecting our own individual 'nuts', (whatever they might be),.....then replicating the same scenario above? In 'our' effort to collect 'nuts',........have we become,.....'NUTS!', ourselves?

The church I attend is literally called,.....'Abundant Life Church'. It's name, and the concept behind it, came by inspiration from the Holy Scriptures and reveals the wishes of God for His people.......


John 10:9-10
King James Version (KJV)

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.


As pointed out in verse 10, above, the thief, (Satan), has his sights on 'stealing, killing, and destroying' the beautiful abundant lifestyle that God has in store for His children. From the very onset of Creation, so avidly pointed out in the Genesis' account, we find the word 'abundantly' used time, after time, after time, by our loving God as He blessed His Creation and set everything in motion.

My 'personal abundance' is quite simply,.....in Him! Words cannot express the gratitude I have in Him as He extended His grace to me,....and opened my eyes to an 'abundant lifestyle', if I wanted it. From there I wisely chose to obey His Word and to 'invest in Him!' This 'investment' consisted of a total commitment to Him,....for I wanted Him to be 'totally committed to me!' ( It does work 'both ways!'). Obedience to His Word led me to an......1) 'altar of repentance',......2) 'water baptism in Jesus' name,......and then,......3) 'infilling of the Holy Ghost', (God's Spirit). ( see Acts 2:37-38) I had been literally,....'born again!',....and consequently the 'abundant nature of God' was, once again, set in motion, within my life.

You know, folks,......'true investors',.....are funny and fickle individuals, in that,....they are always looking for a 'return on their investment!'

Detractors, today, will look upon the 'lifestyle' that I have chosen, as described above, and candidly demand,......."what has your investment netted you?" (note: you see, they feel that anyone who would choose this 'Christian lifestyle' has got to be 'NUTS!!',.....remember our little 'squirrel friend', above?)

To my 'many detractors' I humbly reply,....."My 'investment holdings' that I have acquired through God's grace, consist of....'love,..joy,...peace,..longsuffering,...gentileness,..goodness,...faith,...meekness,...and temperance.' 'This' is what God has 'abundantly blessed me with!'


Galatians 5:22-23
King James Version (KJV)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.


You know,....how many 'wealthy people' do each of us know, that would personally give away 'millions and even billions' of their money, (or shall we say,...'nuts'), in order to have been able to purchase some of these '9 spiritual investment holdings' that God has in store,....to them that believe and commit to Him? If the money, (nuts), that is coveted and so feverishly collected, is the driving force behind the desired 'abundant lifestyle' we commonly see,.....why do we constantly see such 'unhappiness and despair?' What causes the millionaires/billionaires of the world to resort to such drastic alternatives such as suicide,....as we have all seen, time after time?

It's times like these,....where our 'nuts' are rapidly 'rotting before our very eyes',.....that should sound the 'alarm' and wake us all up, my dear, dear, friends!


The 'abundant lifestyle' should be 'clothed in an garment of durability!' Do you want an 'abundant lifestyle' that's going to 'wear out on you' just when you need it the most? Wouldn't you like to know that there's a 'durable abundant lifestyle' that God is just 'itching to clothe you with?'

There certainly is, my precious friend!


Proverbs 8:17-19
King James Version (KJV)

17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.

19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.


(in conclusion)

Thank you, so much, mariposafe, for this precious topic of 'abundance!' May God richly bless you, and everyone here, as they read and contribute to the entirety of this thread!

For the many 'reasons' I have endeavored to share with you, here, I'd like to personally invite you to visit 'our thread',....'Bible Topics and Questions',...whenever you can. This, in no way, is an attempt to 'take away' from this precious thread, in that I will, also, be closely monitoring and contributing, (as the Spirit guides me), here myself. I fully intend to advise others, on our thread, to visit and participate here, also!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-and-Questions

Wonderful job by all! And, by-the-way, I sincerely hope that no one here is/was offended by this 'message of Light'. As you may can tell,....'my cup runneth over!, (there goes my Abundant God, again!),...and I just wanted to share the 'overflow' with each of you!)


To all, ......your friend, brother, and servant,......kreagle

[Tarka the Duck]

Oooo, just had another thought Philip...it's not deep but it's really significant for me at this moment.

I'm sitting here at our (small) kitchen table, planning my morning: I do felting, and have a scarf to make. Up until now, I've struggled on this small table - it's possible to do it by constantly rolling and unrolling the scarf as it won't all fit on at once. Everything takes twice as long, but it's do-able.

And here comes the a b u n d a n c e moment...
Tony has just suggested bringing an old table in from the shed. Turns out it's the same height and I now have an 8 foot table! I can lay my scarf out all in one go! It's sooo exciting!
I'm like a pig in clover

If I'd had an abundant 8 foot table all along, I wouldn't have appreciated it.

[kreagle]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
Oooo, just had another thought Philip...it's not deep but it's really significant for me at this moment.

I'm sitting here at our (small) kitchen table, planning my morning: I do felting, and have a scarf to make. Up until now, I've struggled on this small table - it's possible to do it by constantly rolling and unrolling the scarf as it won't all fit on at once. Everything takes twice as long, but it's do-able.

And here comes the a b u n d a n c e moment...
Tony has just suggested bringing an old table in from the shed. Turns out it's the same height and I now have an 8 foot table! I can lay my scarf out all in one go! It's sooo exciting!
I'm like a pig in clover

If I'd had an abundant 8 foot table all along, I wouldn't have appreciated it.

Tarka the Duck,

hey, sister! ( by the way I absolutely adore you avatar! I love how the 'little fellow,....or gal,...is treading water!)


You may have noticed, by now, that I see a 'little deeper into some things' than perhaps some others do. Such is the case, even in your 'great story' you have related to us all about your 'additional table'.

You can't imagine the 'spiritual thrill' I personally received when I finally began to 'search the storage shed of my life',.....and to much my surprise,....find that I already had something, (unbeknownst to me!), at my disposal,....all the time!

Yes Kathie, (Tarka the Duck), I had found my old Bible,.....basically forgotten and tucked away in my cluttered life. Little did I know that when I 'got it out' and began to apply the wonderful principles of It to my life that I was soon going to be able to see 'the Big Picture' and to achieve the 'abundant lifestyle' that I've spoken about earlier.

Likewise, the 'additional room' I personally received in my 'former cluttered-up life' has made all the difference in the world. Once again, I've been 'freed up' so that I could fully enjoy a life of 'abundantly living!'

Being a 'farm boy grown up in Alabama',....I, too, really love the 'clover'. We had plenty of it on my dad's dairy farm.

I may not be 'pigging out on clover', now!,......but I can assure you,..."I'm devouring the precious Word of God!" Of that,...you can be 'abundantly' clear on!

Psalm 34:8
King James Version (KJV)

8 O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.


As always,.....your friend, brother, and friend,........kreagle

[mosquito]

Thanks for all recent contributors.

Yes Kathie, that simple little story contains a gem of a truth - we all have hidden treasures, things (energies ++) we've discarded or ignored that we rediscover. Maybe the thing we want most is something we've had all along.

Another thought to leave you with - having what you want is one thing, but WANTING WHAT YOU HAVE is equally, if not more important, along with gratitude for our blessings.

This thread certainly wasn't started with only money in mind, true abundance is, as Modwiz says, living in a state of grace. Unfortunately though, most people on the Earth today put all their focus on money, the system is geared that way Much as I've tried, I've never been able to escape from it, so now I just accept it and do my best to live by my heart.

[cloud9]

O.K., these are my thoughts at the moment:
When I was doing this Carole Dore's exercise, I felt really happy and fulfilled and I'm going to share for those who could be interested, it's absolutely amazingly simple:

At night, when you are ready to sleep, with closed eyes you relax your body a bit and start thinking or saying mentally something like this: Dear God (or Dear Spirit, Higher Self, Universe, etc.), I love you from the bottom of my heart, you are my support, my happiness, you are my whole life, my only life, etc., I love you more than anything in the world and I'm truly grateful you are with me every single moment of my day, you are my everything, etc. After this, you can say things like I am love, I am beauty, I am life, etc.

Then after a while of saying the most beautiful words you can think of, see if you start having a feeling in your chest area, it kind of a warm feeling than soon you can identify as love. Perhaps it won't happen the first day but after a few days you start feeling this and it keeps growing. It has to be felt physically and it's very real. One way to describe this feeling is as when you are a parent and you think of your child's accomplishments, the ones that make you proud the most, it's almost as ... you want to cry because what you feel is unconditional love for that little person.

During the day, when you are driving or doing things that don't engage your mind too much, instead of thinking about your bills or responsibilities, you start saying or thinking how grateful you are for this and that and again, it has to be very sincere, soon you are feeling this love in your chest, physically, real. After a very few days you are in a state of tremendous happiness and gratitude and you know that all you need to know is to love this "IT" and everything flows in your life as never before.

When I did it, my vibrations were really high, it felt incredible.

Now here there are two very powerful things you can do to manifest:
1- It doesn't matter what 3D is showing to you, you are very focused on this feeling that has become physical and real, you don't have to worry or think about the hows of anything, this force already knows everything you have wished for at any moment of your life and now with the higher frequency, finally it can deliver the "goodies" because before it was just impossible.
2- When you notice in your mind any thoughts about let's say money for rent (that you don't have), DO NOT give these thoughts even 2 seconds of attention, you immediately start saying why you feel so grateful and how everything you need is already here, you always have more than you need, etc. This is a very important part of the process.

After reading and learning so much about all of these subjects, I've come to the conclusion that we need (have to) be aware continuously that our physicality is the less important thing and the unity with the Source will make us free. Also, I'm aware that not everybody thinks the same way but we are talking here about abundance in the 3D universe; after reading The Disapearence of the Universe I see that doing this would be like reaffirming our physicality even more according to the author, which means we will be creating even more of it instead of getting free of it.

At the end, for some of us, being abundant and happy here is a nice goal, for others the goal would be to evolve as soon as possible and to leave the chain of reincarnation for good. In any case, worrying about world problems or governments it's not going to help, just the never ending bliss of knowing who you are and really feeling your connection with Source will.

But, we all know it's so easy to get trapped in the matrix and daily lives, isn't it?

[Anchor]

Pondering the notions of abundance and scarcity is to ponder on the mechanics of the external universe. I dont think such questions arise in the inner world. The outer reality is the one we make to ponder/experience these things though so it must worth doing that at some point.

When we are engaged in that exploration we are pinned in our outer reality, considering time-bound concepts that are to do with more often than not the future or less commonly the past: WILL I HAVE enough, rather than I HAVE enough.

Living in abundance is largely an act of faith and fearlessness.

Will the Father give me, this day, my daily bread?

Abundance actually seems rather an obvious thing to me, it is after all an infinite universe.

Do I have faith that I will get what I need, rather than what I want?

I think so, but it gets tested all the time - an ongoing process.

[mosquito]

Yes John, I agree, it's an inner act of faith, but holding onto that faith and trust as we walk through the world is damned challenging at times !!

Cloud9: That was really beautiful, and you've expressed very well what I was hinting at yesterday - being grateful for everything we have, connecting to the source, regardless of whether we label it "God" or "spirit" and feeling at one with the whole of life, not allowing physical worries to disturb us. Actually, you and Anchor have expressed the same idea, just a little differently.

Love to all, Philip