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    (...)Not to be mean but I have to add concerning Dr. B - When she stated the shape was not quite square and that it was different depending on how you looked at it... I laughed a little.... When she said that they had to haul in the helium for the hot air balloon I cried a little ..... because I was laughing so hard(...)
    Flying hot air balloon over Sahara is different than flying hot air balloon over much colder climate. The reason is temperature difference between outside and the inside of the balloon. In colder climate you receive more lift as the colder air is more dense and displaces the ballon in the air with greater force. In Sahara where air is hot you have less difference in temperature and lesser displacing force. So you have to add some helium to the air inside of the ballon to gain some more lift...
    Below are some pictures from Dr Boulter trip to the site:

    Quote In February 2012, Dr Carmen Boulter led an expedition into the Western Desert of Egypt in search of a new site. She found the coordinates on Google Earth, got permits from the Egyptian government to go into the restricted military zone, arranged for a hot air balloon, and brought a film crew and scientist.
    Thank you for posting these... A link to same was listed at least 3 times in the previous post to this thread. Also it is posted here on just how she got the preliminary info on this location out our (Kryder Exploration's) "backdoor" without our permission. And then went like a tourist and made a sham out of the examination and neglected the available evidence.

    Also in the posts for this thread is an evaluation of her finds and photos and comments regarding her explanation in a recorded interview. Lets try not to go backward . To reiterate is to waste valuable time... I would urge everyone to visit the web site and review the pics in the Egypt "secrets discovered album" http://kryderexplorationllc.multiply...Secrets-Found- and then please read the posted replies for this thread BEFORE commenting.... It will serve to save a lot of time and offer a better understanding so as to provide a more informed question/ comment base. Thanks !

    I also wanted to add that Dr. B examines these places for her profit. Embelishment, asummtion and exaggeration IS her lively hood as her tours generate her income. Miss- or no interpretation is common among tour guides and tour groups like hers. For instance, she writes on her web site that it is a "secret local"... But. We had published the location on the web 6 months before she got the picture herself. She also mentions the site "In the middle of no where" and being such an adventure to get there.... Not so true. The site lies 10 miles off a major highway between Asyut and Kharga, both of which have an airport. She also mentions gaining access to a Military zone etc.... That's how it is for any location in the western desert! She states it was built 30 years ago...??? But the Military stated the dangers were from explosives left over from WW2. If we look at the "sm bomb" in her pics we see this is from the 40's and not from the 70's.... A quick educated look reveals great supportive evidence of a grand ancient site and very curious details as to what exactly took place there.

    Note in these pics you can see pieces of the "blue colored pottery" she stated she found lying around the site....(???) These are linear like a pipe or scroll tube ... Blue - cobalt, comes from the mines to the south in the Kharga and was only used by the "royal" artisans ....

    Her statement her people think it is modern only serves to distract and reduce implied importance of this site. No real exploration , evidence collection, photo or physical were done... No sampling no tests and no results for anyone to ponder over. Just a statement without a good look that it is modern. With complete disregard to visible evidence and the logistics to building such a massive structure out there.... Tens of thousands of yards of concrete alone.... For what? to build all this on sacred math aligned to structures all over the country... Just to bomb it... Not likely under any scenario. But if we are to listen to Dr B, there is no sense in even taking a look.... Its all done and they determined its nothing to be thought about.... The same old - "Nothing to see here, move along now".... Shame.

    We have had enough of that.... Time for truth.
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    KRYDER,

    I admit i never flew a balloon but i understand the principle behind balloon flying. Hotter air inside balloon is less dense thus lighter than colder air outside of the balloon. But when hot air inside balloon is as much hot as the air outside of the balloon there is less difference in density so less buoyancy. To compensate for that you can inject some less dense gas like helium inside and you gain temporarily some lift. You can also save some propane for burners this way. This do not imply all helium filled balloon. Just partly to compensate for lower temperature difference inside/outside of the balloon. You can buy helium in bulk for filling party balloons. They certainly have suppliers of helium kits in Egypt. Vents on top of the balloon can be open and shut to let some air out and land the balloon. And the burners are not burning constantly. They are fired when balloon loose altitude or need to rise over some ground obstacle.

    If they are not using helium to temporarily gain lift in one part of the world it does not exclude such use in other part of the world. And it should not be used to laugh off other researchers...

    Both of you took pictures out of third party's resources - Google Earth. It is already copyrighted and can not be copyrighted again. It is not your property but Google's. Even when you put your logo on it. Unless you bought those pics from Google. She has been physically there already six months ago. With a camera and video recorder. Why not thank her for saving you time and money to go in vain and find some rusted bomb shells and crushed concrete... But you already know better...

    We all will know The Truth one day. Sorry to spoil the party. I am very good at it I be gone now...
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    It is a model of a planet, functioning as a rotating mass in time space without moving. It is a "well" in the unified field. Built to demonstrate all the things we now read into it. It is a double edged sword able to cut us all with either edge. It is the ultimate question and the ultimate answer. Because it has been left up to us which direction we wish to see, derive and manifest its secrets, the expressed loopholes in space time itself. Yes its a weapon ! Yes its a pump! Yes it helps life itself.....

    The science portrayed is the secret of life, of reality itself. It tells of a power that is absolutely infinite and how to utilize this for all our needs. It physically demonstrates a working model for us to dis-engineer. And it was built partly for this purpose and thus contains and incorporates teaching aids and much excessive details. Of course their is no glyph s, the language was to be permanent as is the structure. "Do you speak math?" should be the only question. For that is the language being spoken and stored here. Their even exists a religious aspect as Einstein himself declared. This is because the problems / lessons , supersede technology good and bad, it goes beyond culture and society and try's to teach truth in the potential of man. Both his creative potential and the link of this to the universe and how they can work together... And as well the obvious choice he has once these secrets are revealed.... To cherish and benefit life or to fear and destroy it.

    Kryder, please expand on these statements. I need to know more.

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    Personally I believe the Egyptian "system" we see today are pieces of both an old and new structures/ devices (pre 10,000 bc or after) that could and may indeed have been re built/ combined and used as weapons. This goes for South America. If we dug up a Tesla Tower tomorrow in a archaeological dig, a General would say its a weapon and a person of the humanities would see a new clean power source to save all. Both ARE absolutely right!!!

    I agree. The structures can possibly come from different time periods. The body of the sphinx (in my humble and somewhat ignorant (I am sure) opinion) shows the classic wear and tear on stone that occurs in rainy climates, another clue that the Sahara at one time had a climate with an abundant water cycle. This implies the sphinx is far older than the pyramids that show no sign of water erosion.

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    I would add their is much more to this "system" that just a weapons platform alone. Much more. I understand theories dedicated to one or another "single use" theory. But I will also add these insights are solely based on that persons research and or exposure to which ever pieces of a very scattered whole. On both what they know and that which they are un-aware of. Until EVERY piece fits we are not seeing the picture. So far not enough people have seen enough pieces together to "know".... I hope to plop many of these into the hands of all... I want to see how it goes then. Ive had many try to use my research and say one thing or another to push their "theory" further. Truth is what it is and will never fit everyone's theory any more than everyone is ready to accepts everyone else's.

    One of the things I heard about the entire mideast, including the cradle of civilization between the Tigris and Euphrates show evidence of terraforming that can be interpreted as long landing guidelines to "airports" in the Mesopotamian region that can be seen from outer space. The blinding light of the formerly limestone (? Is that right ?) plated Great Pyramid in theory was the cardinal compass points oriented beacon, the lighthouse, the initial start point of the landing process. Why not. Multi-tasking is good lol.

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    There much more to show, the theories will fly.... I am just trying to reveal one step at a time so people can see for themselves what this is and what it means. I have a clue and that has enabled me to the clues and make the finds. And they will speak to the world themselves some time soon and I hope the meaning is as clear as it looks from here.

    Can't wait.

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    KRYDER,

    I admit i never flew a balloon but i understand the principle behind balloon flying. Hotter air inside balloon is less dense thus lighter than colder air outside of the balloon. But when hot air inside balloon is as much hot as the air outside of the balloon there is less difference in density so less buoyancy. To compensate for that you can inject some less dense gas like helium inside and you gain temporarily some lift. You can also save some propane for burners this way. This do not imply all helium filled balloon. Just partly to compensate for lower temperature difference inside/outside of the balloon. You can buy helium in bulk for filling party balloons. They certainly have suppliers of helium kits in Egypt. Vents on top of the balloon can be open and shut to let some air out and land the balloon. And the burners are not burning constantly. They are fired when balloon loose altitude or need to rise over some ground obstacle.

    If they are not using helium to temporarily gain lift in one part of the world it does not exclude such use in other part of the world. And it should not be used to laugh off other researchers...

    Both of you took pictures out of third party's resources - Google Earth. It is already copyrighted and can not be copyrighted again. It is not your property but Google's. Even when you put your logo on it. Unless you bought those pics from Google. She has been physically there already six months ago. With a camera and video recorder. Why not thank her for saving you time and money to go in vain and find some rusted bomb shells and crushed concrete... But you already know better...

    We all will know The Truth one day. Sorry to spoil the party. I am very good at it I be gone now...
    Where are you getting your information regarding gasses and balloon flight? Are you guessing on this... The science is shown above. NO ONE uses Helium in a hot air balloon. It is impossible to gain lift in this manner as regulated by physical scientific laws... Its not about whats done in one part of the world or another, the science is the same, no exceptions. ... Its science... The helium would escape the balloon envelope "instantly"... Meaning NO opportunity to gain anything... (???) Please read the above. Another point that makes this impossible in a hot air balloon is the material the envelope is made of, coated nylon, won't hold Helium. It just goes through the material.... I don't know if you are assuming based on simple logic etc... But there is NO advantage to putting Hellium into a hot air balloon under any circumstance any where on this planet.

    Also I never said anything about the images or having rights to them at all.... I just pointed out that DR B herself stated she got a pic from someone who would not tell her where it was.... Well that picture was suck out our back door... I see you didn't read back.

    I couldn't care less about the images etc.... Its not about what is legal... That's besides the point. It is something far far more important. It is Ethics and Morals. Personally I think it is funny they took the bait we offered to see who would take and run for themselves.... Well, on my other finds there I do not give enough to locate them so no one could jump the find and either hide the facts or attempt to distract the public from the wonderful reality.

    You couldn't spoil the party if you tried bud. In fact, hey come on over and join the fun! If your going to prove some point I would suggest your ducks are in a row first. I don't offer opinion or assumption and they that know me will tell ya if I ever make a bet, I have an inside loop to the outcome. Like above, it doesn't matter if its one part of the world or another.... That's like Dr B stating the shape of the compound "changes depending on how you look at it", simply because she didn't know what the shape was called..... So she refers to it as a trapezoid,... And no its not that shape either... So she says it like a square... and so on.... No, science is science, math is math etc... No matter where in this universe it is. And No where on Earth do people attempt to put Helium into a hot air balloon. They know it won't work because of scientific understanding. Even to make a statement like that is .... Well lets just say its not talking out of the mouth. It is either a mistake due to lack of knowledge or a lie. In this case there is an obvious lack of knowledge across the board on her behalf.... And of gasses and Balloon flight on yours. There is nothing wrong with saying "I don't know" or even doing the research before making the comment in the first place. But to defend someone else's ignorance and ego, like making statements about Helium having different properties making it applicable in some places but not others is well.... Fact is fact. These are not facts. Truth is truth... These are not truths. Not even informed opinion. Party on brother ~* woo hoo what'a ride.....

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    KRYDER, Spoiling the party was not my intent. It just developed so because i've casted some doubt on your statements. My red lights went on That's alll... Sorry...

    There is a hybrid kind of hot air ballon called a "Rozière balloon".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozi%C3%A8re_balloon
    It has a separate chamber for lifting gas (helium) and can use burners less time so saves fuel. I have no idea if they used such type of the balloon during that february trip... Let's end this balloon dispute. OK?
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    Quote Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)
    If they are not using helium to temporarily gain lift in one part of the world it does not exclude such use in other part of the world.
    That was a straw man argument.

    He didn't say "Well, they aren't using it here, so they wouldn't be using it there either."

    He described the physical properties of helium which would make it useless to improve the buoyancy of a hot air balloon - the helium would dissipate too quickly to be of use. These physical properties apply every where in this physical world.

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    Quote Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)
    KRYDER, Spoiling the party was not my intent. It just developed so because i've casted some doubt on your statements. My red lights went on That's alll... Sorry...

    There is a hybrid kind of hot air ballon called a "Rozière balloon".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozi%C3%A8re_balloon
    It has a separate chamber for lifting gas (helium) and can use burners less time so saves fuel. I have no idea if they used such type of the balloon during that february trip... Let's end this balloon dispute. OK?
    Thank you and there was no dispute. I just wanted you to take a deeper look. Yes the Rozière is a great, purpose built platform for extreme range or duration flights. In her published images they are using a standard hot-air balloon. Just like the ones used in her advertised balloon tours of the Nile...

    I invite input toward my own statements either way.... But I was quoting her from her interview.

    People need to know about the ones jumping sites like these to discredit and distract. They as well offer quick interpretation every time saying the same thing.... Nothing here... Move along. While it is highly likely it (her name for it "Venus Temple" ???) will be on a tour schedule soon. This is not a random effort. It is an organized and well orchestrated effort involving many "authorities" on the subject. In the 1930's sites like these were being excavated by cult groups in hopes of re-use and in the 40's the USA was bombing them off the sites. This is most likely one of those sites. All evidence would point to this at this time. In the 50's the groups organized under a channeler and the top (9) were told they were the "Gods of ancient Egypt" by a channeled source.... Since then their has been a huge effort to combine and manipulate what is referred to as the "New Age" movement. First true science ignores the finds and then the 9 take it as alternative and interpret the finds through channeled visions and mystical tours. In this way all the best finds are discredited simply because the involvement with the "tour crowd" and never studied. I have personal experience with much of this being on the inside for many years. I know another researcher who Dr B. cost thousands and much court time dealing with her. But this isn't in her TV show so know one knows. Now I see why first hand. This is not supposed to be a sneaky business... In fact if seen as business then sneak they will, as they did. People should know the truth, pretty or not. That's what I am here for. Truth and making others show it. If they won't we will. You are right Dr B. did get some ground shots. But Someday I would love to see what I discovered over there with my own eyes. Or at least be given common courtesy to ask me about it. It makes me sad the photos published are so bad. No good study shots.... I am very grateful some info could be gleaned from them. It is all the other more important finds I either have not shown, or not given the locations of, that I want my team on the ground for.

    In fact I was contacted today by of their players (coincidence), first time in almost a year out of the blue. And with an offer of enough money to go their if would cooperate with more locations.... Go figure right...

    There is more going on at this level than most are aware of.... This needs no debate. It needs exposure. There has already been efforts to quell this discovery on other forums with a lot of people noticing it.
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    Quote Posted by KRYDER (here)

    It is a model of a planet, functioning as a rotating mass in time space without moving. It is a "well" in the unified field. Built to demonstrate all the things we now read into it. It is a double edged sword able to cut us all with either edge. It is the ultimate question and the ultimate answer. Because it has been left up to us which direction we wish to see, derive and manifest its secrets, the expressed loopholes in space time itself. Yes its a weapon ! Yes its a pump! Yes it helps life itself.....

    The science portrayed is the secret of life, of reality itself. It tells of a power that is absolutely infinite and how to utilize this for all our needs. It physically demonstrates a working model for us to dis-engineer. And it was built partly for this purpose and thus contains and incorporates teaching aids and much excessive details. Of course their is no glyph s, the language was to be permanent as is the structure. "Do you speak math?" should be the only question. For that is the language being spoken and stored here. Their even exists a religious aspect as Einstein himself declared. This is because the problems / lessons , supersede technology good and bad, it goes beyond culture and society and try's to teach truth in the potential of man. Both his creative potential and the link of this to the universe and how they can work together... And as well the obvious choice he has once these secrets are revealed.... To cherish and benefit life or to fear and destroy it.

    Kryder, please expand on these statements. I need to know more.


    Sierra
    Hi Sierra,

    I am not really sure how to elaborate on the first quoted writing. Do you mean the mechanics, the function the meanings in the math or the lessons? What I was trying to say rather than explain the structure was to explain its nature and the intentions built with'n. Even more so than that I am trying to get others to see it through different eyes. I don't want to color "it" or tell them what they are seeing but how to see "it" in all the enigmatic structures on Earth. Or, how to "find without looking"...

    There seems to be a division of thoughts and ideas, some technical some spiritual. NO. There has to be both. The structures and their features and functions have to be measured and seen in two forms. The solid and the fluid. The solid being the technical and the fluid being the spiritual. Only this way will anyone get the message they are transmitting to us through time. By listening to popular theory and even our own minds we can never find "it".... We have to stop and look with no ego, no self.

    There are many facets to the window we are looking through... Like a gem. Through everyone's eyes the scene looks different. This is the filter of yourself. To turn this off we must consider all except our self. Which means at those moments we have to know nothing except whats there. No thought or interpretation. When these "pro's" in pyramid studies stop arguing and admit they are all somewhat correct and all also somewhat wrong... Combine the OBVIOUS commonalities without reason... Then they will have the core, the raw, not one of the myriad uses, functions features etc they all love to debate. The subtle to this is you don't need a massive monument to find these secrets. The loopholes to manipulate reality are portrayed everywhere around us. The "Model" is in many things... a tree for instance and a thunderstorm share only one thing in common. As does a raindrop entering a pond.... Like these, a flower represents only the upper half of this whole, as does the visible portion of the pyramid/s.

    The Triangle is the top, visible half. The bottom being hidden, it is actually a diamond. Half is represented to us throughout history with the invisible half tucked away... This goes for it all, the monuments, the tech and the duel nature of the whole. The two Obelisks in front of all great gates meant this. That is why there is only one at the Vatican, only one at D.C. .... They represent the hiding of this knowledge from man.

    This and only this is the key revealed in the finds posted to this thread. It is a full representation of both halves, top and bottom. Of a time of balance.... Some would have us believe that the rule of Egypt went from the masculine to the feminine and back and forth... And that now , or soon will rise the feminine once more... This was invented in the late 19th century, around 1880. In truth, the hidden is a portion of the whole not a separate part ... The "golden age" existed when BOTH masculine and feminine were in balance. The reason the Dwat form seen in this thread has a larger top is because "Woman was created from man"... This is a statement about our chromosomes identifying one sex as having both chromosomes and the other sex only having one. It means balance is comprised of a male and a female in power with balance.

    The mechanics and even physical devices can be made following these natural laws and they will work. For instance, many many people are building coils, assembled magnet, and plasma devices trying to make zero point fields. So many are dead on but they neglect to install a matching unit in exact phase and counter revolution under the first.... This is the secret held from humanity. The secret that will free human kind. There are some who know this but few like myself have any access to the resources to bring it to the light of day.... Its a fight.

    The "gain" to any of this technology comes from tiny distortions in space time caused by rotation and thus resulting angular momentum. The neat thing about pyramid math is it works on a "static" object like the pyramids themselves. The last photo in the Egypt album is exactly this. Structures laid out in a mathematical system relating to time and the curve as a result of rotation. All the same math as the great pyramid and more are there without exception or even one out of place.

    Hope this helps...


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    Hope this helps...
    It sure does. Food for thought. Thank you for the direction to think. I'm one of these people that don't really "see", until there is enough detail and suddenly as if reaching the top of the hill, and seeing the view, I get it. You gave me a lot to think about, data that never would have occurred to me to think about in regards to pyramids.

    The best kind of information in my book.

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    Very helpful! Interesting that you mention the need for spiritual and technical description(in balance ). I read somewhere(forgive me I do not remember where) That the Ancient Egyptians were using spirituality -> technically.
    For them the two ideas were not separate.
    In a sense the Spiritual was the root of their technology.

    Also here is a photo of the Osirion at Abydos,


    And one of the Djed Pillar depicted on a wall at Abydos

    "The Djed is a pillar, a type of the World Tree, representing stability, continuity, and regeneration. The Festival of The Raising of the Djed dates back more than 5,000 years to predynastic times--as does the Egyptian Book of the Dead which identifies the Djed as both the backbone of Osiris and the support and backbone of the universe. The Djed, however, is more than just an object; it is a mythic complex that existed long before Osiris emerged from the dark realm of the collective unconscious." - http://www.sangraal.com/Abydos/

    And the "Flower of life" at Abydos


    If I am going off topic, feel free to adjust,
    I feel however that these three photos show parts of the puzzle.
    One question, does anyone know if water was intended to be in this temple?
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    Why not now?

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    Quote Posted by KRYDER (here)

    The "gain" to any of this technology comes from tiny distortions in space time caused by rotation and thus resulting angular momentum. The neat thing about pyramid math is it works on a "static" object like the pyramids themselves. The last photo in the Egypt album is exactly this. Structures laid out in a mathematical system relating to time and the curve as a result of rotation. All the same math as the great pyramid and more are there without exception or even one out of place.

    Hope this helps...

    Yes, yellowbook is quite the technological tour de force.
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    Quote Posted by KRYDER (here)
    It is a model of a planet, functioning as a rotating mass in time space without moving. It is a "well" in the unified field. Built to demonstrate all the things we now read into it. It is a double edged sword able to cut us all with either edge. It is the ultimate question and the ultimate answer. Because it has been left up to us which direction we wish to see, derive and manifest its secrets, the expressed loopholes in space time itself. Yes its a weapon ! Yes its a pump! Yes it helps life itself.....
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    Kryder, please expand on these statements. I need to know more.
    Quote Posted by KRYDER (here)
    I am not really sure how to elaborate on the first quoted writing. Do you mean the mechanics, the function the meanings in the math or the lessons? What I was trying to say rather than explain the structure was to explain its nature and the intentions built with'n. Even more so than that I am trying to get others to see it through different eyes.... [....snip]
    Another member has been posting in one of the Pyramid Threads and has given us a perspective view into a possibility that could help to answer some of these questions. This is all in reference to the 'other half of the diamond' issue.... the hidden part that KRYDER has mentioned in earlier comments. This all goes to greater understanding of how a dipole can create rotation, and why that relates to how a 'static mass' has cause and effect to rotation in time and space.

    And, of course, this all goes further to the potential evidence that the Great Pyramid at Giza was designed as a weapon, and is now only the remains of that system.

    Begin here in the thread at comment #105:
    Quote Posted by Straker (here)
    Click-on forwarding icon to see the content of Straker's comment #105 in the "What Was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?” Thread
    .... and read through the thread to comment #125 in that thread:
    Quote Posted by Straker (here)
    This is another image of the duality of the chambers that I created back in March 2004.



    And then suddenly, as if by magic, the following image appeared on John Cadman's pyramid website. (NB: Originally, this image only showed one set of chambers, until he viewed my website). Once he realised I was on to him, he removed it...(but I kept the image just in case).

    The silly thing is that he forgot to ask his CAD guy to delete the duplicates of the so-called air passages from the original, so he suddenly had 8 of them...hahahahaa!

    Thank you Straker for your contribution to this discussion.

    If one were to follow that 'Purpose of the Great Pyramid' Thread, one will discover its origions go all the way back to the Old Avalon Forum. This is what Straker is refering to in his comment #125.

    The point I'm attempting to connect, here, is that there is much hidden that we don't yet know. That which KRYDER has discovered is directly related to the purpose of the Great Pyramid at Giza.... that for which it was designed and built.

    I'm in total agreement with KRYDER regarding the transparency issue. I am showing what I know in the puzzle in an attempt to draw-out those individuals who are capable of funding the efforts of those like KRYDER and Straker.

    I'm of the strong opinion that nothing else should be released until there is some sort of guarantee that transparency is assured.
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    Very helpful! Interesting that you mention the need for spiritual and technical description(in balance ). I read somewhere(forgive me I do not remember where) That the Ancient Egyptians were using spirituality -> technically.
    For them the two ideas were not separate.
    In a sense the Spiritual was the root of their technology.

    Also here is a photo of the Osirion at Abydos,


    And one of the Djed Pillar depicted on a wall at Abydos

    "The Djed is a pillar, a type of the World Tree, representing stability, continuity, and regeneration. The Festival of The Raising of the Djed dates back more than 5,000 years to predynastic times--as does the Egyptian Book of the Dead which identifies the Djed as both the backbone of Osiris and the support and backbone of the universe. The Djed, however, is more than just an object; it is a mythic complex that existed long before Osiris emerged from the dark realm of the collective unconscious."

    And the "Flower of life" at Abydos


    If I am going off topic, feel free to adjust,
    I feel however that these three photos show parts of the puzzle.
    One question, does anyone know if water was intended to be in this temple?

    Certainly not off topic by any means! Thank you... thank you!

    Great pic of the flooded Osirion. Here's a tid bit of real data that only a handful know (till now).... Subterranean imaging has inferred the the Osirion structure/s have been registered as deep as 300m or 900 feet below ground level!

    The Djed column is remembered everywhere on Earth. It is the "May Pole" used right up until this day... It is the axle to "The Mill" ... "The pole on the turtles back" etc... In this rendition there is another unique quality that goes even farther than most. This "tilt" is math, as well the entire picture. There is also spirit and balance expressed in specific ratios....

    But lets get back to the tilt. In the pic above of the Djed column, we see a tilted angle of 23.5 degrees. This IS the axes of our planet. The Earth is tilted 23.5 degrees. In the "May pole" ceremony all the ribbons connected to the top are carried around until they all wind up around the pole.... In "The Mill" legend it spins aboard a ship traveling a sea, winding a rope around the shaft until it breaks... This is the wind-up effect of any magnetic field. Our "Earth field flip" we have heard of so many times IS the "Breaking of the Mill"....

    This center point, the pole or column is the Zero point axle, many times featured with serpents coiling upward and even wings , flames or a flower on top. Its all the same thing. An expression of the Zero point well and the two counter rotating fields climbing up the "well" center and recycling ...

    In the case of the Egypt rendition of the Djed pictured above, it is offered as a physical model we can measure. Both to express the knowledge they had of not only planetary positions and rotation but the actual planetary mechanics behind it all and to teach it as well.


    The flower of life at the Osirion... Thank you so much for this one. Not many people know that one of the columns that has this is broken/chipped and shows that this glyph goes through the stone pillar. It is not on the surface and there is simply NO modern theory to explain the process used or even what we are actually looking at. No pigment, no change in the rock yet it extends into the rock itself.... ???

    This symbol as we know is an expression of a frequency pattern. With modern techniques we can see this in the structure of water after prayer or a certain Hz is given over the water itself. We KNOW this structured water kills off bad bacteria, viruses and clears the water of containment's and is beneficial to all higher life (animals, crops etc...).

    Osirion - Flooded Structure - Source unknown - Not Nile water

    Structure is aligned to 305 x 35 deg bearing using true North

    305= 3+0+5= 8
    35= 3+5= 8

    8 - Egyptian for: "water, to close"
    8 - On its side ; Egyptian for : "eternity, eternal cycle of water"

    Preliminary Conclusion: Osirion - Eternal building, close, water. Or :

    "A valve station built to control the water forever"
    ---------


    Note this is only the structure compass layout. Information is incorporated into every measurement.

    All numbers are treated in this manner and have meaning equivalents. The math used in both architecture and the layout of structures, even entire regions describes what its features, purpose even secrets are.

    Here is a link to photo's showing the Osirion and the math/ layout of the structure and others. This demonstrates the redundancy of the #8 throughout the alignments.

    http://kryderexplorationllc.multiply...und-#photo=127

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    So at this time yes I absolutely think it was intended for water, its modification and control.
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    here is another image of the Osirion , whats the pipe in the image is it modern?


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    It looks like a modern addition from what we can see. I know there has been efforts to pump it out in the past... And more recently (I was told) big pumps where brought in by J. Westerman but they accomplished little and could barely reduce the water level and only temporarily while the big pumps where running.

    Thanks for the pic !!

    If you look in the KX album, there is another matching structure that has been recently excavated !

    Osirion -


    Matching structure -


    Larger view including both structures -


    Inferred locations of new/ potential discovery -
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    Some Thoughts I Had On The Uses Of The Pyramid.
    1. A Healing Device
    2. A Dimensional Transportational Device
    3. An Electrical Generating Device
    4. A Sound/Frequency Generating Device
    5. Used As A Weight Set To Stabilize The Ley Line Grids.
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    Hi Kryder and The One,

    Thankyou both, for posting and also for the original research into these strange formations.

    I had a look at them on google earth today and took some photos. I then went into photoshop to see what I could make of them. The strange square with the circle in the centre is actually a perfect diamond shape, it just needs to be rotated. The stones around the outside are each approximately 5m X 3m in size, and there are 92 increments in the circle, being 4 quarters of 23 stones each.

    360 degrees divided by 92 gives 3.913 as the angle of each.

    However there appear to be two rows of stone blocks on the outside diamond, as well as on the inner stone circle.

    If I equate this to music, and times 3.913hz X 2 (allowing for the two sets of stone blocks) we get the number 7.826hz

    This is supposed to be the Earth's Resonant Frequency isn't it?

    "In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth. This lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance occurs at a frequency of approximately 7.86 Hz, but this frequency can vary slightly from a variety of factors.."

    Anyway, a bit more googling and I found this:

    "The US power line frequency of 60 Hz, multiplied by 3, and then divided by 23 equals 7.826"

    There must be more to this structure than meets the eye with values like these.

    Speaking of diamonds, take a look at the basic structure on the megalith map:

    http://www.vortexmaps.com/megalith-1.php

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    Just as a side note, I noticed that the cross in the middle isn't aligned with the geometry of the diamond, even though it's in the precise centre of the 4 points. Rather, it is turned slightly, and as far as I can tell in google earth, it is aligned to 0.00 degrees.

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    The perfect frequency, established through experimentation --for stopping the human heart-- (probably Nazi research, they did a lot of medical research that is still considered valuable today- the kinds of things that are considered to be morally and ethically incorrect do do..but still things that we'd like to know), is just below 60 hz. The ntsc standard for framing..was 59.94hz. (crt tube tv era, north America)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC

    Of course, flashing images are an autohypnotic.
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    In the interest of transparency, I'll say this publicly to both Straker, and KRYDER.

    You both have similar stories. Valuable research was stolen from both of you and used to minimize what you may have discovered.

    I believe both of you can benefit from each other's experiences and expertise.

    I wish both of you well.

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