Slaves no more.

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Many people fear anarchy; yet ultimate freedom from any kind of slavery makes us anarchists.

Liberation - finding out that you can in fact walk through the prison walls, or that the chains of the erstwhile slave-masters are soluable is one thing. Deciding to linger in the prison compound teaching others that is another. Prisoners need teaching how to be free otherwise their fear will keep them slaves.

[Celine]

The strongest prison walls, are the ones that aren't real.

[kaliestar]

Posted by John (here)
Many people fear anarchy; yet ultimate freedom from any kind of slavery makes us anarchists.

Liberation - finding out that you can in fact walk through the prison walls, or that the chains of the erstwhile slave-masters are soluable is one thing. Deciding to linger in the prison compound teaching others that is another. Prisoners need teaching how to be free otherwise their fear will keep them slaves.

Hi John!

What if all we need is to have the idea that we are free and there is no real prison, all illusion, creation? Guess it's all about perspective, decision, choice.

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Posted by kaliestar (here)
Hi John!

What if all we need is to have the idea that we are free and there is no real prison, all illusion, creation? Guess it's all about perspective, decision, choice.

what a bright spark .. and breath of fresh air you are kal i STAR ..........

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Thanks dear 3-starred rhythm!!!

[rhythm]

inside or outside the box ???????????

looks can be decievin which side of the fence are you .. is there a fence????????

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guess some of the worse prisons are inside us....
course, the material ones are bad but they wouldn't exist without the inner ones...

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Posted by kaliestar (here)
guess some of the worst prisons are inside us....
course, the material ones are bad but they wouldn't exist without the inner ones...

o yes i do fink that junior will soon go purple ... and my porrige is burnin ..........

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Im getting to like this thread i feel it has somthing to say
thinking of all the different ways that can insalve.. us like vanity 4 one

porrage is in the bin saved the coffee tho .
good day to you all and much sunshine in your hearts

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hahahahaa

and here comes morning over here, another night diggin....

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Posted by kaliestar (here)
hahahahaa

and here comes morning over here, another night diggin....

dont dig up the daiseys girl

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slavery was always available to the slavable ones...ok..gotta check if it's correct...nope, but you got it..

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Posted by rhythm (here)
dont dig up the daiseys girl

lol...nope, don't worry, it's a careful digging, very well-targetted

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Posted by kaliestar (here)
What if all we need is to have the idea that we are free and there is no real prison, all illusion, creation?

YES - Certainly that is all you need to begin with. Once you realise the nature of it, then responsibility kicks in and impels you along a certain path according to the new perspective - much the same as before, but with wiser eyes and more authentic purpose.

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Posted by John (here)
YES - Certainly that is all you need to begin with. Once you realise the nature of it, then responsibility kicks in and impels you along a certain path according to the new perspective - much the same as before, but with wiser eyes and more authentic purpose.

But can we have the same purpose as before with our eyes/mind/soul open?

guess not, the change has been made... and the path enlarged.

[rhythm]

hmm theres an interestin though ....
just need some wings eh!!!!!!!!!!

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Here is an excellent youtube item covering the basics of being a "Freeman on the land", it covers some of the shenanigans that represent the bricks in the wall.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DtVFbz_gNGI

John..

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Many perspectives for the word slave

Slave

1. One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household. (many housewives feel like they are "slaves" in the house)

2. One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence: "I was still the slave of education and prejudice" (Edward Gibbon). (slave to religious dogma)

3. One who works extremely hard. (workaholics )


4. A machine or component controlled by another machine or component.


Thanks for the video John... will watch after coffee.

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Posted by rhythm (here)

hmm theres an interestin though ....
just need some wings eh!!!!!!!!!!

i have mine...do you have yours?

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I liked that video so much, and felt it so powerful, I just made a transcript of it.
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This is my transcript of a video by Robert Menard on the topic of being a freeman on the land.
E&OE. Some of the words may not have come out right
I highlighted some parts that struck me with that "feeling" you get when you just know its all very cool!
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A human being and a person are not the same thing.

We have been led to believe that they are but they are not.

In Black's Law Dictionary you will find a definition of a person - and it says: "A human being is not a person because he is a human being, but because rights and duties have been ascribed to him. Specifically the person is that legal subject or substance of which the rights and duties are attributes. But not all human beings are persons, as was the case in Old England when there were slaves."

You are not a person, you have a person. You may never know that this person exists, the government is acting upon it, if you are unaware of its existence, then you are a slave to your own ignorance

The purpose of this person, wasn't to deceive you, it wasn't to enslave you, it was to provide you with a very strong nugget of protection against government tyranny. If they never act against you as a human being, and they are only acting against your person; you always have the option to reject their governance and therefore escape tyranny, totally and absolutely easily.

They will tell you "I'm an agent from the government" "I'm a peace officer", "I am this I am that".. NO! You are a human being in a Common Law jurisdiction and that is all there is to it, that's first and foremost and I am not forgetting that. If you remember that ... they have to remember that.

The key thing about remembering this is you can remember a couple of things, yes you can affect them, they will respond to emotion, they will respond threats, they will respond to a baseball in the bottom of their knee; they will respond! They will also respond to love compassion and truth. They are human beings, and if you treat them with the dignity that all human beings are worthy of, they will respond as a human being as well. Don't look at them as anything more than simply a human being using a tool - and the tool that they are using is... WORDS!

All they are, are words! The government is composed of human beings using words. Take away the human beings, you don't have a government. Take away the words you don't have a government. You need those few things for anyone to come up to you and claim any level of authority over you.

If you learn to distinguish between actual law {and statute (?)}, and there is only three ways to break the law harm another human being, damage someone else's property use fraud or mischief in you contracts you have broken the law. It's the only way to break the law.

Statutes are not laws! If you look it up you will find that the definition of a statute is "a legislated rule of society given the force of law". It is a law, it's a rule that has the force of law within a structured society because somebody gave it that force! Remember we are all equal here! Who can give those words the force of law? Only you. You have decided to give those statutes the force of law within your societal structure. A society, if you look at the definition of that, is a number of people joined by mutual consent to deliberate, determine and act for a common goal.

Your consent is required for any statute to have the force of law and you can spot these; they'll have the word 'act' right in the title.

Point out the word act, any government agent asking or claiming authority over you say "what exactly does that word right there mean?" and you will be two steps away from consent.

You have every right the world to stand right up and claim the status of a child of God, but the moment you do that you accept a lot of responsibility because then you have to look at everyone else with the same eyes. We want remedy, we want our power back. We don't want to beat them up; we want abundance, we want peace; we don't want a life of conflict with these people. We shouldn't have to dig through the sh1t they manufacture in order to find the diamonds of our freedom.

Fundamental three things you should have learnt; 1: You are not a person; you have a person; it exists in associating with you. 2:Statutes are not laws, they do not apply to you, they apply to your person and finally (3) believe it or not if..you want your freedom, if..you want to become a freeman on the land; you have to treat these people with compassion; regardless of what they've done to you and I know how difficult that can be.

There's a maximum of law, a Roman maxim that says: "Let he who would be deceived be deceived."

If you aren't even willing, if someone comes up to you and says "You have to do this..." Oh, why? How do you know that? "Everybody knows it" - Oh really? Nobody read the act but everybody knows it. You start reading these acts and you start finding the remedy within it.

These people have a duty to understand and to distinguish between statute and law. They've been dealing with us for so long, with people who are essentially ignorant that we don't even distinguish between statute and law so they assume that you are going to.

They'll say: "Oh you broke this statute, you broke a law, I want to give you a ticket" and then they'll say "I need to see your I.D. and if you don't show me I.D. I'm going to arrest you for obstruction of justice." I've had cops do this to me! {Sky train (?)} cops. The fact is though, until they see I.D. they have absolutely no evidence of the existence of a person who is liable under the statute. So they're putting a cart before the horse; they're saying "I see a human being, thinking them persons.. ..the act says..person must produce a proof affair; ..you're a person, I'm giving you a ticket, now you have to show me your I.D. so I can give you a ticket" because they've been told "If you don't see I.D. you can't give a ticket." They know this, but they're putting the cart before the horse.

They like to use presumption and assumption so often they won't even ask you a question; they come to your window; "Drivers licence, registration, insurance."

Look at them and say "uhh, apples, bananas and pears?....You're not making any sense; like you used a complete sentence?

What is it you want?"... "Do you have a drivers licence, registration and insurance" or "May I see?" is usually what they would ask because they're operating upon a presumption too.

You ask them: "Are you willing to claim under full commercial liability that I have an obligation to have such a thing in order to exercise my common law rights?" ..and of course you don't.

In order to define your freeman status, you will need to distinguish, legal from lawful there is a maximum law that says "He who distinguishes well, learns well. He who questions well, learns well."

If you cannot question, if you cannot distinguish you are going to end up being a slave to them.

The reason questioning is so powerful: if they ask you a question, you ask them a question right back. (We're equal, we're playing tennis.)

The goal is to get them to answer the question first, answer none of their questions. The reason is; if you are asking questions, the assumption in law must be that you are asking because you don't understand and you want to understand so you can keep the law.

Therefore as long as you are continually asking questions; they can't do anything. They can't claim you are obstructing justice, they can't claim that you're in violation of any statute...

Just keep asking questions....
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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=06aLe2a5Nm4

now this is a good slavery eh!!!
well celine not to sure about wings .. got some stars tho