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    Quote Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
    Just read this interesting but alarming article: A Great Silence Is Spreading Over The Natural World.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...rld-recordings

    There is always a moment of silence between symphonic movements.

    Speaking of which . . .




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    Sending you all the highest vibrations for the best fit solutions Donk.



    Quote Posted by Jenci (here)
    My life's experiences all have been about bringing me to the point of surrender. Just when I surrender more and think that must be all, I find that I need to surrender more.
    Talking about surrender.

    Marieke (Laperle) has finally found a job (and a good one) which leaves me to take care of the kids, run the bed and breakfast and do the house hold. This brought back an old friend. Stress and loads of it. After nearly 2 weeks I felt like a burn out catching up with me. Exercises from Eckhart Tolle were impossible to do. Felt like a mental muscle that went paralysed. Let alone identifying the watcher.
    After searching and trying to get to a solution... finally I got it. When stress is in the picture I tend to hit the brakes to what comes in and goes out. I add resistance to it in truck loads and so adding to the experience of stress.
    This is a habit that I was unconscious about.
    So now when I feel a energy of stress arising, together with a thought to it.... I open myself up to it and then there is a big rush of energy going through me... and then there is no more stress... gone!
    So this is my surrendering for the past few days and for some time to come probably.

    Still can't do Eckhart Tolle though....weird

    Happy to hear that everyone got away without being hurt Jeanette.


    @ Dennis. beautiful pictures. Wish I was there with you.

    I feel like commenting on lots of posts in the Her and Now, but I'll just say that I love reading all of it and it inspires me deeply.
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    Quote Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
    Jeanette, I'm just getting to this post...I so want to give you a hug!

    UPDATE:

    I'm back to add.......Oh, man...... no words matter. Just that I'm glad that everyone's okay.
    Thank you Paula. Everyone is OK. My son is home from school. He was worried but was spared from seeing the man come off his bike as it was on the driver's side of the car.


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    Quote Posted by Jenci (here)
    My life's experiences all have been about bringing me to the point of surrender. Just when I surrender more and think that must be all, I find that I need to surrender more.
    Yep, that's the point of this whole exercise.

    Synchronistically, I was driving Mazie to the dentist this morning to get a couple of fillings, as as we approached the office, I told her about your run-in with the motorcycle driver. As we entered the office, the radio playing in the background announced that the Red Bull heir, driving his Ferrari, ran over a motorcycle cop and fled the scene. When the police tracked the trail of blood to the guy's mansion, one of the servants tried to surrender himself and take the blame, but they realized he was just covering for his billionaire boss.

    Hi Bob, we were blessed that our scenario didn't play out with such bad consequences as that one. Lessons have been learned all round. I would guess the young motorcyclist will not do that again and I would guess he will be a safer rider for it too.


    My thoughts have been on this....

    Quote "So with awakening, the stakes go up. The more awake we get, the higher the stakes get.

    I remember when I was staying at a Buddhist monastery for a while.The abbess there, a wonderful woman, talked about this process of awakening as climbing a ladder. With each step you go, you have less and less tendency to look down.

    You have less tendency to act in ways you know aren't true or to speak in ways you know aren't true or do things you know aren't coming from the truth. You start to realize that the consequences have become greater; the more awake we get, the greater the consequences are.

    Finally, the consequences of acting outside of truth become immense; the slightest action or behavior that's not in accordance with the truth can be unbearable to us. "

    Adyashanti

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    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
    When stress is in the picture I tend to hit the brakes to what comes in and goes out. I add resistance to it in truck loads and so adding to the experience of stress.
    This is a habit that I was unconscious about.
    So now when I feel a energy of stress arising, together with a thought to it.... I open myself up to it and then there is a big rush of energy going through me... and then there is no more stress... gone!
    So this is my surrendering for the past few days and for some time to come probably.

    Still can't do Eckhart Tolle though....weird
    Excellent recognition, Brother, we tend by habit to compound stress with more stress, aka "viscious cycle:.


    About your exercise, you might consider getting up an hour earlier. When I was in the thick of my career, I often worked 12-14 hr. days, so the only time for meditation was early morning. Buddha, btw, is reported to have claimed that the best time for meditation is between 3 -5 AM.

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    Quote Posted by Jenci (here)
    "Finally, the consequences of acting outside of truth become immense; the slightest action or behavior that's not in accordance with the truth can be unbearable to us. "

    Adyashanti
    Yep, and if one reads the Xtian mystics, like St. Teresa, for example, they will get very detailed about their perceived faults (which might seem miniscule to the average reader). Of course, this attitude is a phase too, and actually a tricky play of ego-mind that still wants to confirm its existence.

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    Actually,

    The only meditation that I do is a breathing meditation before my attempts for astral travel, to get relaxed and better attuned for it.
    The exercises I talk about is watching the thoughts and emotions, allow everything to be and be in the now. This is done during the day without sitting down and meditate. It feels a sort of like meditating, but then at the same time doing ' your thing'.

    Waking up an hour early is good advice though and I actually do it already... to get enough work done.
    The focus is on doing all that I told and still find some time to renovate the house.

    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Buddha, btw, is reported to have claimed that the best time for meditation is between 3 -5 AM.
    Might that have to do with the mind being weaker at that time of day? Because when I set the alarm for astral travel at that time.... I feel that my mind is too weak to do the projection. Weaker as later in the day that is.

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    The exercises I talk about is watching the thoughts and emotions, allow everything to be and be in the now. This is done during the day without sitting down and meditate.
    It takes some time to get to the right balance.

    "Just keep in mind the feeling 'I am', merge in it, till your mind and feeling become one. By repeated attempts you will stumble on the right balance of attention and affection and your mind will be firmly established in the thought-feeling 'I am'. Whatever you think, say, or do, this sense of immutable and affectionate being remains as the ever-present background of the mind." ~Sri Nisargadatta


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    Buddha, btw, is reported to have claimed that the best time for meditation is between 3 -5 AM.
    Quote Might that have to do with the mind being weaker at that time of day? Because when I set the alarm for astral travel at that time.... I feel that my mind is too weak to do the projection. Weaker as later in the day that is.
    That is the time in the body/mind rhythm when there is the least distraction, and so the opportunity for the most clarity, focus, and depth. When in the Zen Monastery, we rose at around 2:30 AM, did some chanting, and then meditation till about 5:30, when we had a small meal and began our work-day. It was great, but when I left and went back to the "World", I slept in till about 4:30 AM for quite some time, since I am lazy by nature. Mazie gets up usually around 4 AM, because she loves that time of day before dawn, and also enjoys watching the sunrise.

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    finally got my internet connection back and running. It seems that my take on the conference of physicists in 1927, was exactly right. Lorentz had argued for utter perfection in following the scientific method. He was arguing for perfection and absolute unchallenged rule in the application of scientific method in all physics and sciences. absolutism, is what he wanted. Lorentz was arguing for permanence in dogmatism.

    Einstein wanted a far more open system. To retain the checks and balances of 'scientific method' but to allow for more varied situations.

    The argument and discussion was taking place at this exact time, at this conference.

    Fifth Conference

    Perhaps the most famous conference was the October 1927 Fifth Solvay International Conference on Electrons and Photons, where the world's most notable physicists met to discuss the newly formulated quantum theory. The leading figures were Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr. Einstein, disenchanted with Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, remarked "God does not play dice". Bohr replied, "Einstein, stop telling God what to do". (See Bohr–Einstein debates.) 17 of the 29 attendees were or became Nobel Prize winners, including Marie Curie, who alone among them, had won Nobel Prizes in two separate scientific disciplines.[2]

    This conference was also the culmination of the struggle between Einstein and the scientific realists, who wanted strict rules of scientific method as laid out by Charles Peirce and Karl Popper, versus Bohr and the instrumentalists, who wanted looser rules based on outcomes. Starting at this point, the instrumentalists won, instrumentalism having been seen as the norm ever since,[3] although the debate has been actively continued by the likes of Alan Musgrave.



    Oddly enough, this-is much like the idea of a fifth column arsing at the fifth conference.

    Fifth column
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    A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group, such as a nation, from within. A fifth column can be a group of secret sympathizers of an enemy that are involved in sabotage within military defense lines, or a country's borders.[1] A key tactic of the fifth column is the secret introduction of supporters into the whole fabric of the entity under attack.[2] This clandestine infiltration is especially effective with positions concerning national policy and defense.[2] From influential positions like these, fifth column tactics can be effectively utilized, from stoking fears through misinformation campaigns, to traditional techniques like espionage.[2]



    There has been much discussion in conspiracy circles, regarding the fundamentals of high academia being fully penetrated by such secret society groups.

    Which is LOGICALLY the only place they could hide
    , regarding being the system and being effective.

    Pedophiles, psychotics, sociopaths, and so on...they all can only head toward and be within the places that they need to be, in order to be effective for themselves. This is a given.

    Same for academia, and the sciences. where they are effective for their drives and group purposes. A human or animal attempting to hunt a meal must go to where the prey is.

    Thus the penetration of politics, religion, academia, police, military and social support systems.

    And one might say, that although he would probably have to hide it, Einstein may have been working in the face of knowing what he was dealing with.

    some might think that this is far too much to conclude from a photo, but the data far exceeds that of a photo.

    The Lorentz end of the scale the scientific method types who wish for that... in the form of absolutism, would never see it and can't see it.

    The Einstein types who would argue the point that openness MUST remain, can easily see the potentials and the connections.

    My personal experience is that absolutists pretend to adhere to or make lip service to instrumetalism, but desire and live within a world of the projection of ideas tied to numbers ruling all potential paths and directions to explore.

    The instrumentalists desire that observation rule the idea of what the science is to explore and become.


    Thus observation is allowed to be, to exist, to be king in the extrapolation of reality..which is essentially what the spiritualists and the Buddhists speak of. that observation, logic, extrapolation and exploration are KING... and the only way to move forward.

    And that the absolutists, their projected fears of not knowing (from where they sit), they desire that those projections rule. (absolutists arguing that once something has been confirmed, it can never change, becoming a fact in perpetual permanence.)

    Some things never change, it is just that the scientific absolutists have a bigger and more complex box to confine themselves within, so they are among the last to ever see it..as they have the way forward papered over with many layers of self protection in the form of complex projection.

    And that this complex papered crap is a large part of our current nightmare, due to the average person having not one clue of the complexity and tangled web that the absolutists have woven for us, and themselves.
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    Pretty interesting discussion going on in this thread
    We-R-one is opening her books about what she knows about ownership of real estate and the trouble people are up for in the near future (in the VS).

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    Thank You Carmody....and f I may express it in simplicity as I do to Others in my life that ask me and stop to listen in the moment...
    "The infiltration and manipulation go back many, many, many years and is planned and exercised diligently in the core facets of society by those that wish to control us and keep us numb and dumb!"

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    And that the absolutists, their projected fears of not knowing (from where they sit), they desire that those projections rule. (absolutists arguing that once something has been confirmed, it can never change, becoming a fact in perpetual permanence.)

    Some things never change, it is just that the scientific absolutists have a bigger and more complex box to confine themselves within, so they are among the last to ever see it..as they have the way forward papered over with many layers of self protection in the form of complex projection.

    And that this complex papered crap is a large part of our current nightmare, due to the average person having not one clue of the complexity and tangled web that the absolutists have woven for us, and themselves.


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    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
    The exercises I talk about is watching the thoughts and emotions, allow everything to be and be in the now. This is done during the day without sitting down and meditate.
    It takes some time to get to the right balance.

    "Just keep in mind the feeling 'I am', merge in it, till your mind and feeling become one. By repeated attempts you will stumble on the right balance of attention and affection and your mind will be firmly established in the thought-feeling 'I am'. Whatever you think, say, or do, this sense of immutable and affectionate being remains as the ever-present background of the mind." ~Sri Nisargadatta


    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Buddha, btw, is reported to have claimed that the best time for meditation is between 3 -5 AM.
    Quote Might that have to do with the mind being weaker at that time of day? Because when I set the alarm for astral travel at that time.... I feel that my mind is too weak to do the projection. Weaker as later in the day that is.
    That is the time in the body/mind rhythm when there is the least distraction, and so the opportunity for the most clarity, focus, and depth. When in the Zen Monastery, we rose at around 2:30 AM, did some chanting, and then meditation till about 5:30, when we had a small meal and began our work-day. It was great, but when I left and went back to the "World", I slept in till about 4:30 AM for quite some time, since I am lazy by nature. Mazie gets up usually around 4 AM, because she loves that time of day before dawn, and also enjoys watching the sunrise.
    I have covered the physics and the metaphysics of the story behind this 3-5 am issue before, in various threads. one would have to do a search on my handle, Carmody ,and 'the witching hour'. If done - the data, complete with images and metaphysical connecting tissue, etc, will all be in the results.
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    Hello Great People Of This Village. Stopping By With Love. I Have a lot of catching up to do on this thread, it could take eons.
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    Just as the four days of the equinoxes and solstices mark the most spirit-laden time of the yearly cycle,
    so in the same manner sunrise, midday, sunset, and midnight
    are the moments of the veil between worlds being thinner,
    so I try to remember sitting quietly then.

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    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Quote Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
    Just read this interesting but alarming article: A Great Silence Is Spreading Over The Natural World.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...rld-recordings

    There is always a moment of silence between symphonic movements.

    Speaking of which . . .



    Great point, Bob. And sometimes the entire movement is silence:


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    Saw this and was reminded of one of the Village people:


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    Gentle reminder... Not so in you face!
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    The exercises I talk about is watching the thoughts and emotions, allow everything to be and be in the now. This is done during the day without sitting down and meditate.
    It takes some time to get to the right balance.

    "Just keep in mind the feeling 'I am', merge in it, till your mind and feeling become one. By repeated attempts you will stumble on the right balance of attention and affection and your mind will be firmly established in the thought-feeling 'I am'. Whatever you think, say, or do, this sense of immutable and affectionate being remains as the ever-present background of the mind." ~Sri Nisargadatta


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    Buddha, btw, is reported to have claimed that the best time for meditation is between 3 -5 AM.
    Quote Might that have to do with the mind being weaker at that time of day? Because when I set the alarm for astral travel at that time.... I feel that my mind is too weak to do the projection. Weaker as later in the day that is.
    That is the time in the body/mind rhythm when there is the least distraction, and so the opportunity for the most clarity, focus, and depth. When in the Zen Monastery, we rose at around 2:30 AM, did some chanting, and then meditation till about 5:30, when we had a small meal and began our work-day. It was great, but when I left and went back to the "World", I slept in till about 4:30 AM for quite some time, since I am lazy by nature. Mazie gets up usually around 4 AM, because she loves that time of day before dawn, and also enjoys watching the sunrise.
    I have covered the physics and the metaphysics of the story behind this 3-5 am issue before, in various threads. one would have to do a search on my handle, Carmody ,and 'the witching hour'. If done - the data, complete with images and metaphysical connecting tissue, etc, will all be in the results.
    this is the only one I could find right now. the whole shooting works might be in the astrology thread. Diagrammies, pitchers an evertin!

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    I'll cut to the chase.

    inter-dimensionally, if you could see the energies, at 3:15 am at night, you'd see a spiral in the sky, sticking out, away from the earth, the size of the earth, like the view from the inside of a tornado. Like the eye of a hurricane, but spiraling out from the earth, toward the outer rim of the solar system.

    This.....If you could see those energies.

    what this means is that this 3:15 (approx) time, in your local area, the ability to be psychic or have psychic sensitivity is at it's peak or highest, or most complimentary, and with the least noise or interference.

    Essentially, if one wants to dream/function properly, according to standard human design parameters... one must be in bed and sleeping/dreaming before 3:15am.

    This is (part of) why it is chosen to be 'the witching hour.'

    I myself, when left to my own devices, tend to do the 2-sleep cycle. I sleep in a chair, ie, pass out for a few hours or more, then wake for a while, then head to a true bed type sleep.

    What I specifically do with those two sleep cycles, I'll keep to myself.

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    it has to do with the earth's umbra or shadow, in the shape of a cone, and how the energies are lensed and gated at that particular local time. Local to the person and area.

    Also, that is the time that the body is in it's most deep sleep, so..it is easier to reach the meditative state, the one where the body is truly still and the mind could be wandering and awake, with little to no bodily interference.
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    My life's experiences all have been about bringing me to the point of surrender. Just when I surrender more and think that must be all, I find that I need to surrender more.

    It was back to school today for my son. I've been planning everything the last few days to make the process as smooth as possible for him. He finds school very difficult and can be anxious and unsettled and as a mum, that bothers me. I even consciously directed some bad energies away from him, although I had a vague sense that I was doing something I shouldn't - in other words, taking back control.

    This morning did go smoothly and we left the house with no rushing and no shouting, ready and in a peaceful, relaxed state. I was very pleased with myself that my efforts had paid off.

    As I am driving to the school, I stop, indicate to turn right, the road ahead was clear so I start turning and Smack ! As I had turned right, a motorcyclist had overtaken me on the right, collided into my car and ended up lying in the middle of the road.

    Fortunately he was OK. Well he said he was although he seemed very dazed to me. He was wearing a crash helmet and full leathers which took some damage, so he was well protected. He was adamant that he was going to ride to work though.

    So instead of me taking my son to school in a relaxed way, I end up handing him over to another parent who was walking by as I dealt with the motorcyclist. Poor thing was shocked and confused with it all.


    Today I have been busy with dealings with the insurance company and the repair garage so I have had not time for reflection until I just got back now.

    I asked the question of my Higher Self - 'so what was all this about?'

    Immediately I got the response 'Surrender'

    Once again I am humbled by life and I realise All is Well, already.

    Jeanette
    Fantastic.

    I am discovering the my path is walking me down an exploration of an expansion of faith. I see so many similarities with the contexts in which you discuss surrender, and the contexts in which I find are tests of faith.

    Perhaps these are the same - approaching the subject from slightly different orientations.

    For me to be able to surrender, first I must have faith that this is not an unreasonable thing to do

    Perhaps this is a chicken and egg thing, because to make an act of surrender, one is also taking a leap of faith.

    Conundrums.
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    I am trying to be more gutsy, like this gal, (well maybe not wear a bucket on my head) just more gutsy!
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