more 'practical-talks' , on this whole 2012, Ascension, & Disclosure things

[niki]

(WARNING: lost post, or personal 'rant' ahead, but it's also very REAL and raw honest, and 'practical' as well!)

Since this forum is all about Truth, then there would be no Truth without a 'raw' kind of honesty. a sort of 'layman-term', and 'grounded' worldly questions.
Along with my daily life's experiences and observations, I've observed and debated as well with a lot of what I would say these '3D-worldly' practical, and/or skeptic people, or what I also called "The Materialists" , in my older thread.

And now, as usual, playing/serving as a 'devil's advocate' again,
I do want to ask some very important & pressing questions, in the most 'grounded/materialist/earthly/Realistic' way as possible, hope it'll helps sharpening the 'Truth' knife :

1) Do you all honestly think it's going to be that easy, to "save the whole mankind/humanity" ?
eg: just "attack the ONE big-head who controls this world (whatever "it" is..) " , and..."the world will live happily ever after" and in 100% Peace ?...
Because as far as I can see, things are *not* that simple.

Our world today is in a wreck/mess, not only because of some 'BIG conspiracy' and 'controlled-by-ONE-evil-villain' , but it's much more complex, and subtle too, eg:
human's EGO problems (even in the smallest thing like between family, friends, co-workers, boss & employee, etc etc!), different interests (or "conflict-of-interests").

It's not necessarily that humans are 'evil' in this 3D-world, or something like that..
the more I actually try to really honestly learn even from these 'earthly/materialist' people, the more I've found that people are NOT that black-and-white (good-and-bad), but there are many GREY areas in life/this complex society/world!

Now,..do any of you still think quite 'simplistically' again (for lack of better words), that when the Illuminati/Powers-that-Be is eliminated, or UFO/E.T helps us all, Disclosure, and we are all experiencing 'Ascension', etc etc....that we 'dirty' & complex humans would immediately live in a 'GOLDEN AGE' era??...

What if it's simply just our made-up fantasy/wishful-thinking/escapism from the harsh (& 'mundane') reality/real-world?...

2) This 'practical' world, as far as I can still see: is still all the same "business as usual..." , eg: all about Money, money, and money, and job/career-seeking, reading newspaper, same ol' politics, business interests, business-developments, etc etc.
Yet, here we are in this wonderful, amazing 'Truther' forum , discussing about what I'm sure 99% people (or friends, family, etc) would view them as : "nonsense/BS talks" !

It just seems that....I'm very, VERY afraid/scared that I've gone WAAAYY far from the 'real' reality (or 'real-world') !
Have I swallowed a TRUE 'red-pill' , or , have I just swallowed a 'hallucinating-in-nonsense-illusions' pill ??... and HOW to tell the differences?

I have to admit, very honestly: that ever since I know (& learned) about all these 'BIGGER' and 'Deeper' Truth of all things, Existence, etc etc (a.k.a swallowing the 'red-pill') , I have become sooo uninterested with ALL other 'practical' things/practicalities of everyday's mundane 3D-world daily activities!
and here I just turned 30 yrs old last week! and still have NO clue about how to survive INDEPENDENTLY in this all-about-Money world/society!..

And honestly, if I could, I would easily choose "I don't give a damn care anymore" button, and keep seeking/learning the deeper Truths, or like in 'cool' science-fiction movies, wish to join the 'Truth-seeking' , Disclosure, Ascension, and/or The Resistance group, and therefore get away ASAP from this stinking 'work-hard-for-Money-and-surviving' trivial mundane meaningless existence EVERY single day!..

But alas, again & again, the 'REALITY' (or 'real-world') as we know still today/currently,
is still NOT as 'beautiful' as all these forum-talks!
so much talks about "Mass Awakening" etc etc,..but in REALITY surrounding/around me, I still see pretty much NOTHING of that sorts!..

and yet, I am still somewhat 'expected' to "keep living by FAITH" ,
that all these wonderful "2012, Ascension, Disclosure" things will SURELY 100% HAPPEN??.... and it will CHANGE the/our world, hurrayyy ???....

the real, hard, practical/realistic, & slap-in-the-face question, is the same as point #1 above: what if WE have been deluded?... what if ALL of these things are NOT real?

What if it's simply just our made-up fantasy/wishful-thinking/escapism from the harsh (& 'mundane') reality/real-world?...

Where should I GO then, from this point, in my life??........


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Again, this is all no offense at all. I'm just being very 'raw' honest like I've stated above.
After all, hopefully I could some things from the answers/responses you give, even to talk/convince these 'practical, realistic, Materialist' 3D-world 99% people (family, friends, co-workers, etc) all around/surrounding me.

But please, give also the most 'practical' , 'layman-terms' , & straight-to-the-point answers/responses/feedback.
I TRULY really need it at this point.
No 'woo-woo' , 'sugary' responses or posts.

thanks a lot~

~warm regards from fellow 'newbie' Truth-seeker & spiritual-Lightworker from Indonesia~

[Tarka the Duck]

Hello Niki

You have no idea how much I love your posts It's so good to hear unflinching honesty, and much of what you say rings very true for me too. Funny...I have just written a similar post on Huma's thread. Talk about synchronicity. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...267#post549267

I've just had a cup of tea made for me, so I'll be back...
Kathie

[another bob]

Posted by niki (here)
Where should I GO then, from this point, in my life??........

Hiya Niki!

I travelled through Indonesia back in 1980, loved it!

Anyway, to your question, it's always best, I have found, to start with the basics, the foundation. Many people who happen to see a little bit behind the facade of consensus reality tend to get stuck in their head and don't take care of the fundamentals of their life first, before running off in an imbalanced way and getting even more confused and frustrated in the process of trying to figure it all out.

So, we need to get our life-level act in order first. That is, we need to secure our basic needs in terms of money, food, and sex. By that I mean, we need to acquire right livilhood, right nutrition, exercise, and physical maintainence, and get our personal relationships in order.

As we proceed, it is very important to examine our heart, and inquire into our own behaviors and the attitudes that have spawned them. For example, most humans are hobbled by greed, envy, and hatred. If we investigate honestly and deeply: how much of our motivation is infected by these poisons? By just focusing on eliminating these three obstacles, you will be amazed at how your own life will change. As your life changes, so will those around you, because your life will begin to reflect a pure integrity, and others are attracted to, and inspired by, genuine integrity.

Once your life has begun to shine in such a way, you will be guided to the next step necessary for your development and evolution. You will hear that guiding voice, because you have become clear of the self-absorbed deafness that characterizes so many of our brothers and sisters, and so will be able to do good.

Blessings!

[Joe Akulis]

I'd like to put out a possible scenario, if you'll bear with me while I lay some groundwork.

A little while ago, Bob was talking on another thread about how he attended a LifeSpring course back .... a few years back. :-) And they were experimenting with being able to connect psychically with someone else just by looking deeply at their eyes/face. If Bob wants to elaborate a bit on this phenomenon, that would be great. NancyV also has talked about it.

The reason I bring it up is because I am interested in learning the effect those experiences have on you, and on the relationships you have or the feelings you have towards the person you shared the "merging" phenomena with. Do you feel the same towards that person afterwards as you did before you did it? How about now, years later? How do you feel towards these people after a number of years have gone by?

This is one ONE example of the myriad of telepathic/psychic abilities that can be developed and used by us all. What if everyone on the planet eventually learned that they too can do all of these things. Bend spoons, levitate, you name it, don't hold any of 'em back. Sooner or later, and this is just a shot in the dark hunch, but my guess is that sooner or later, just perhaps, you might get an angry (insert your religious fanatic here) who slips up and makes a telepathic connection with their arch enemy, the (insert your religious fanatic here) across town, before getting a chance to blow him up with a bomb. I wonder if a shared experience like that might make said fanatic think differently about blowing up his nemesis after that.

Or better yet, what if said fanatic, rather than telepathically linking with someone else here, ends up beginning to perceive his dead family members? And the first thing they start saying is how you need to put an end to the suicide bombing pranks, and forgive instead? A message like that might hit home a little better if you received it from a dead loved one that you never realized was out there. Perhaps, rather than finish the bomb in the shed that you're working on, you'll wanna go back and schmooze some more with your dead brother, just to be sure he's doing well? Who knows?

I think part of the 2012 mumbo jumbo is going to involve a kicking off of the planet of all the folks who have known for 70 years that all of us have native telepathic abilities, and began working to prevent us from achieving any of it as soon as they started to realize what it meant. After all, if I can remote view you anytime I want, then you don't have too many secrets after that, do ya? Take away all the suppression of this activity, and what might our future hold?

[Joe Akulis]

P.S. Yes, this does mean someone would still have to do the kicking, and most of us don't have the muscle for something so large as this group of suppresionists... Sooooo, what if we still plow ahead and develop these capabilities anyway?

[Craig]

I don't think that we are going to be rescued by anything per se, I think I see where you are coming from Niki and I am starting to formulate more and more that we are here now for a reason, whether it is to learn, or to be punished \rewarded. But if something was to clear out the path in front of us, without us doing it ourselves we will merely rush forward only to collide at the next bottleneck whatever that may entail. I am stuck with a duality, reading this site and others and then living my day to day life where I need to earn $ to provide for a family who do not understand any of this, and I am far too uneducated at this to attempt to try and explain it. As to where to go, I can't answer directly, I just get up every morning make sure everything is right in my little world and carry on. Perhaps I am following some script dictated pre life, maybe we all are and need to await what comes next. I do feel something is wrong globally or holistically with the planet but I also feel there is an underlying feeling of change happening around us, sure it is slow in parts, and there is a lot of pain and confusion associated with it, it is far over my head to understand, so each day I just try to do a little good where it is needed, a small random act of kindness and hope that it pays forward.

I wish you luck and happiness with what you choose to do, when I get to that stage of why bother I am prompted by something simple as a glorious sunset or even a news article where a sick child has been healed by acts of charity from Dr's and the like, it is like a nudge that makes me think that yeah this place kinda sucks, but there is beauty there as well, so if it is a script and we are just plodding through well we might as well try to enjoy it. Ok it is harder when you are running through a bad trot but the only constant we have in that regard is change, everything changes. I sometimes wonder where I would be if I kept plodding along and not looking for answers, I would be better off $$ no question, but as for the rest i would be pretty stagnated, so I am grateful I have chosen this path, and I hope that someday you do too.

[Fred Ryan]

Hi Niki,

I very much enjoy reading your posts.

I would say, judging by your above post, that your own person ascension is unfolding on schedule. You've awakened to the truth of our world and the truth of how our world operates. You've reached the logical conclusion that the conspiracies are far too entrenched and too far reaching for any single human to do anything about. You're angry and you feel a certain level of hopeless. This seems to be a normal reaction and very similar to the process I'm undergoing.

You should, at some point, reach the understanding that the entire external world is an illusion. Granted, a very convincing illusion, but never the less, just an illusion. You will likely reach an understanding that this illusion, at some level, is controlled by your consciousness, or better yet, your emotions. You are, if the quantum physicists are correct, a very power being. In fact, you are, for lack of better word, God. You should, when you reach this point, begin to realize that the way you feel has a direct and immediate impact upon your external reality. When you can take responsibility for your own feelings, not an easy task, your external world will begin to change in magical and unforeseen ways. You will begin to live synchronistically and in harmony with the natural flow of the universe. You will ultimately reach the conclusion that all are saved because they never were lost and all in the universe is perfect just as it is.

I realize that this is by no means and easy process and that the external reality draws us in ever to easily. This reality, however, is just a diversion. The key is to remember who we really are and why you're here.

Take care and I hope this is helpful.

[CD7]

Yes have thought and felt like you many times....im in my 40's...ten years past yah and what comes to mind is that a complete shift fundamental change at the core needs to happen. The batter needs to be adjusted, so to speak----metaphysically to alter everything else. To me it would need to happen in the MOST unconventional way..unknown as everything tht has been presented is bullS....

How can BullS....fix BullS....?? It really doesnt it just makes different piles....

From my observations...we are animals---people say this--- but has anyone REALLY realized how much of an animal we are. We like to categorize and put ourselves on a "different" shelf but in all truth..our form is tht of an animal..we BEHAVE like our animal sisters/brothers...yeah we have a different communication system..but is it really tht different??? No it isnt to anyone whos paying attention. Was it a joke? Are we entertaining to watch?

We, from what i know, are the only species tht could be the guardians and caretakers of EVERYTHING on this globe...the GARDENERS, cultivators...we have the capacity/ability to assist other animals so it isnt SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST for them. When an animal show is on and we just watch as they fight for food, water...a nice place to crash....its all entertaining but i cant help but think

WE ARE THE ONES THT CAN MAKE IT DIFFERENT FOR THEM...not just watch them on the tube...but alas this is not the case

It will be the only way for change FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE at the core

[Lone Bean]

Great post niki! I completely related to every word in it. I too am struggling with the balancing act of reality vs. wishful thinking. I feel I'm fairly solidly set on the reality side that there is little chance of aliens riding in on their white horses and saving the day for us, but yet I still hope it happens. Nonetheless, I continue doing what I have been strongly urged to do by some guiding force to prepare for some type of event in which food and fresh water will be in very short supply, along with other essentials. I would absolutely love it if it were really time for the humans that are ready, to ascend to a higher level but that thinking is not realistic. I sometimes hate being awakened from my blissful slumber of ignorance because now I can't rest my mind and engage in life as I used too - oblivious to all the corruption, evil, and economic mayhem that will soon fall upon us. I miss those days. Being aware among all those sleepers I am surrounded by makes me very lonely....and somewhat scared. I don't know for sure how the "unprepared" part of society will react when the collapse fully happens, and can only imagine what their behavior will be like. I continue preparing for the collapse while trying my best to maintain faith in my Higher Power that I have done all the footwork I can do at this point in time and if the collapse happens tomorrow then I leave the results to my HP. But, on the other hand, it's also exciting to think about potential wonderful changes that might occur for those of us remaining after the worst is over and the morning sun rises once again. I hope me and my family live to see it if it is in the works. I guess this is where faith is about all we have to go on and that shows a lot of who we are to the Universe. I have faith that all will eventually be well because if I didn't, what would be the point of even trying to grow spiritually? Sorry for the rambling reply......I just think about this stuff all the time....and I mean ALL the time.