One interpretation of what the Mayans said will happen in 2012

[Hervé]

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Chris... when are you going to learn?

See this post and this post.

As I wrote above, the likes of Greg Braden proffer things without any supporting data nor evidences. Until he and his likes provide data and evidences whatever they proffer is science fiction.

Respectfully Gregg Braden quotes a lot of scientific research and the papers source.
Cant remember if he quotes reference for the resonance statements he has made though in fairness.
However I respectfully suggest that you view this video linked below.
I dont thing anyone gets it right all of the time as there is much information that is inaccurate.
I believe he believes what he says.
I dont believe anything as such but share what may be of interest and welcome correction that's how I lean---eventually.lol

Respectfully Chris

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post551545

Chris, whatever he quotes as sources fail to match the graphs and links to current graphs I provided in my posts above... it's that simple: Gregg Braden is spinning a tall tale!

There are no arguments nor beliefs involved when confronting the data square in their face values: there is no increase of the Schumann Resonances occurring!

Respectfully, try to confront that in your meditations.

[AwakeInADream]

Posted by Ultima Thule (here)
What is interesting to me re Schumann resonance is how the peaks in it appear to have almost the scale of golden ratio:
From wikipedia:
beginning at 3 Hz and extend to 60 Hz,[2] and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.86 (fundamental),[3] 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.[4]
Think about fibonacci scale and SR: 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 ...27.3 being the one that is not quite matched.

Food for thought...

UT

It is food for thought, the Fibonacci sequence is related to the golden ratio 1.618. 1,2,3,5,8,13,21. For instance 5 x 1.618 = 8.09 and likewise all the way up the scale. The only problem with relating it to the frequencies is that as you get higher up the octaves the small inaccuracies become larger. If you relate 7.86 to 8 then, (8x2=16...32...64...128) compared to (7.86x2=15.72...31.44...62.88...125.76). So its not that simple, but then the Fibonacci series doesn't fit 'perfectly' with the golden ration either, so you might have something..... Maybe it's the golden ratio that relates to the Schumann resonance, since the Fibonacci sequence is only a mathematical construct anyway, and the GR is more accurately worked out... We should measure a sunflower!

EDIT: Incidentally, just thinking about octaves and how doubling them increases the numbers in between them, and relating them to the said same octaves of our visual input of colour brought about a spiritual realization in me, not just that we can't percieve things outside of our frequency range, but also that we can't tell the difference between most of what is inside of our frequency range either. And how the sense of hearing is so drastically different from our sense of sight. Sight is more sensitive to minute changes, but hearing can spot that an octave is the same note(it knows when a number is doubled which sight does not, no other sense does this). Also complimentary colours go well together, but if you step the frequencies down, those same musical notes will not. Put all that into a moment of realization and you might understand how I felt that day.....To know the illusion but still not be free from it....Good and Bad...

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jakye (here)
I remember David Wilcock talking about the expanding earth theory, how continental drift is a sign that the earth is in a slow but constant state of expansion. If that theory is to be believed then based on the scientific basis of how the Schumann resonance is created then technically the resonance frequency would slowly be increasing all the time

If the earth grows, wouldn't that decrease, not increase, Schumann's resonance? It would take longer for low frequency electromagnetic fields to go around the globe, so they would get around fewer times per second.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jakye (here)
Also the ancients measured the speed of light at 144,000 miles per second and encoded harmonics of that number in lots of their ancient monuments. Speed of light as of today is I'm told measured at 186,282 miles per second. Is it possible that the speed of light changes as we move through different fields of space within the universe.

When I try to search for statements that the speed of light is 144,000 miles per second, I find mention of Bruce Cathie's Grid, in which a day has 27 hours and a second (called a "grid second") is 9/8's longer than the usual second of present day physics. I don't really understand what I'm reading, but I don't notice any evidence that light is speeding up from what little I've read so far of it.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Amzer Zo,

I read your quote that's why I'm asking and I think I have a legitimate question and that's ok if you can't answer it, but it's a question all of us should be asking when looking at scientific data. It poses quite a quandary when a lot of people are basing their beliefs off of data where they are assuming the source is giving accurate information.

This isn't my area of expertise, so I have no way of knowing whether this information is accurate or not and since you posted this data as fact that's why I'm asking you. So from your comment I think it might be safe to assume that you can't really guarantee the accuracy of this site, otherwise you would have explained in more depth. If I truly believe in something I would give examples as to why, or if I didn't know, I would just say so, but that's me.

I'm not trying to give you a bad time, but when you realize how many misconceptions are out there and how many lies have been told, it's hard to know who's telling the truth anymore, even in the scientific world, cause if you don't know anything about the topic, how do you even know what's being posted is accurate?

I suppose I could just be a drone and pretend I understand or bypass this thread all together.

Had you visited the site and checked the "Live data" tab as I specified, you would have seen the updates of the Schumann resonances up to Sept. 09, 2012 and wouldn't have written: "... the calendar you posted is Sept. 2011 if I'm reading it correctly which is from last year."

Hence my conclusion is staid.

Also, had you visited that site you would have found what their aims and goals are:

The Global Coherence Initiative is a science-based, co-creative project to unite people in heart-focused care and intention, to facilitate the shift in global consciousness from instability and discord to balance, cooperation and enduring peace.

This project has been launched by the Institute of HeartMath®, a nonprofit 501(c)(3), a recognized global leader in researching emotional physiology, heart-brain interactions and the physiology of optimal health and performance.

From: http://www.glcoherence.org/about-us/about.html

Morever, they show what instrumentation they use, what data they are recording, etc. Basically, it's a mini HAARP Gakona [induction magnetometer] system which records magnetic fluctuations of the Earth magnetic field through induction coils.

According to their aims and goals, if there were a group inclined to "skew" the data towards an increase of the Schumann Resonances; it would be that one!

Well, they don't!

They just display the data they record. Data are data and, as such, are facts. What people do with these data is a matter of probity as to the ones assessing them and constitutes your point of contention.

I am not debating the latter since what you stated is a reverse of what you accuse "science" of doing: starting from a "belief" (no supporting data nor evidences) that the likes of Greg Braden (see this post and this post) speak the "truth" about Schumann Resonances and, therefore, the other scientists are lying.

For the rest, I let you run with the balls of your insinuations as to what I may know or not know.

The only solution to the introduced conflict is to keep educating yourself.

I appreciate your response. You are wrong in assuming I did not go to the site. The problem is, because I don't have a scientific background I do not fully understand what I'm viewing, something that most people don't have the courage to admit. I am not going to pretend I fully understand this, hence my questions.

You are very defensive in your response. I'm trying to understand what you are posting. When you didn't completely respond to my question, I can only assume that you do not know the answer and as I said that's "ok". In the same manner you get frustrated with people not understanding all this scientific data you post, I get frustrated when posters ignore questions and can't admit there is some truth to what I'm posting because it gets in the way of their pride.

To someone who is new to this stuff, in my mind if we are comparing charts, it would have been helpful to put a side by side comparison of the Sept. 2011 chart next to Sept. 2012, so the average person could follow? You're assuming the reader understands everything your posting and how to interpret this data. I'd bet that the majority doesn't, and most likely will never admit. So if you want people to "get it" you have to understand your viewer and post accordingly.

Where you quoted the goals of the Institute of HeartMath above, sends alarm bells to my mind and justifies the very reason I should have concern with the data that comes out of this organization. Take a look at what I've underlined and bolded in black above.....

Any organization that enlists themselves as a non profit 501(c)(3), has not only the potential to receive government funding, but also the potential to be a mouthpiece for government indoctrination. And herein lies a forthcoming problem. It is equally possible that there's no government influence and just because a company is listed as a 501(c)(3), doesn't necessarily mean that government funding is being received. But this is exactly what concerns me and it should concern anyone who lists scientific data as fact, you have to consider who's funding these organizations and how do you know the information they're giving is legitimate? The obvious answer is you can't, and that's my point. It's a sad fact and most people don't have the time to research all the in's and out's of the data being provided.

I'm so sorry I'm not at your level. I wasn't as fortunate to receive an education from the halls of science like yourself and I have to say, maybe that's not such a bad thing due to all the indoctrination that has taken place. The advantage is I don't have to unlearn anything, I can work from a fresh slate.....which means, I'm not going to believe everything that someone dishes out as fact. We have become products of an environment which consists of what I like to call, "pre-conceived misconceptions", a term I coined myself based on my own observations. I'd have to be a fool not to question sources knowing what I know now.

So let's be clear, I'm not saying that all scientists are lying, you are twisting my words. You have to assess each study on a case by case basis. I often see you post a lot of scientific data and I have to wonder how much research you do behind the data before you post it as fact..... or do you just take it at face value because someone is "telling" you the research is accurate. I am not making fun of you, because, seriously, who has the time to not only research the data, but also the funding behind it? It's a valid concern...

[we-R-one]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Chris... when are you going to learn?

See this post and this post.

As I wrote above, the likes of Greg Braden proffer things without any supporting data nor evidences. Until he and his likes provide data and evidences whatever they proffer is science fiction.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Chris... when are you going to learn?

See this post and this post.

As I wrote above, the likes of Greg Braden proffer things without any supporting data nor evidences. Until he and his likes provide data and evidences whatever they proffer is science fiction.

Respectfully Gregg Braden quotes a lot of scientific research and the papers source.
Cant remember if he quotes reference for the resonance statements he has made though in fairness.
However I respectfully suggest that you view this video linked below.
I dont thing anyone gets it right all of the time as there is much information that is inaccurate.
I believe he believes what he says.
I dont believe anything as such but share what may be of interest and welcome correction that's how I lean---eventually.lol

Respectfully Chris

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post551545

Chris, whatever he quotes as sources fail to match the graphs and links to current graphs I provided in my posts above... it's that simple: Gregg Braden is spinning a tall tale!

There are no arguments nor beliefs involved when confronting the data square in their face values: there is no increase of the Schumann Resonances occurring!

Respectfully, try to confront that in your meditations.

Oh, and one more thing...if Gregg Braden is so full of ****, then please explain to me why he's on the board of the very company you quoted as fact, "Global Coherence Initiative", in several of your posts on this thread?

http://www.glcoherence.org/about-us/...ry-boards.html

LMAO, LMAO.....ok, Amzer Zo.....you gotta give me this one, please??? Just this once? I did some homework and I took your advice to continue "educating myself."

[Mu2143]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Amzer Zo,

I read your quote that's why I'm asking and I think I have a legitimate question and that's ok if you can't answer it, but it's a question all of us should be asking when looking at scientific data. It poses quite a quandary when a lot of people are basing their beliefs off of data where they are assuming the source is giving accurate information.

This isn't my area of expertise, so I have no way of knowing whether this information is accurate or not and since you posted this data as fact that's why I'm asking you. So from your comment I think it might be safe to assume that you can't really guarantee the accuracy of this site, otherwise you would have explained in more depth. If I truly believe in something I would give examples as to why, or if I didn't know, I would just say so, but that's me.

I'm not trying to give you a bad time, but when you realize how many misconceptions are out there and how many lies have been told, it's hard to know who's telling the truth anymore, even in the scientific world, cause if you don't know anything about the topic, how do you even know what's being posted is accurate?

I suppose I could just be a drone and pretend I understand or bypass this thread all together.

Had you visited the site and checked the "Live data" tab as I specified, you would have seen the updates of the Schumann resonances up to Sept. 09, 2012 and wouldn't have written: "... the calendar you posted is Sept. 2011 if I'm reading it correctly which is from last year."

Hence my conclusion is staid.

Also, had you visited that site you would have found what their aims and goals are:

The Global Coherence Initiative is a science-based, co-creative project to unite people in heart-focused care and intention, to facilitate the shift in global consciousness from instability and discord to balance, cooperation and enduring peace.

This project has been launched by the Institute of HeartMath®, a nonprofit 501(c)(3), a recognized global leader in researching emotional physiology, heart-brain interactions and the physiology of optimal health and performance.

From: http://www.glcoherence.org/about-us/about.html

Morever, they show what instrumentation they use, what data they are recording, etc. Basically, it's a mini HAARP Gakona [induction magnetometer] system which records magnetic fluctuations of the Earth magnetic field through induction coils.

According to their aims and goals, if there were a group inclined to "skew" the data towards an increase of the Schumann Resonances; it would be that one!

Well, they don't!

They just display the data they record. Data are data and, as such, are facts. What people do with these data is a matter of probity as to the ones assessing them and constitutes your point of contention.

I am not debating the latter since what you stated is a reverse of what you accuse "science" of doing: starting from a "belief" (no supporting data nor evidences) that the likes of Greg Braden (see this post and this post) speak the "truth" about Schumann Resonances and, therefore, the other scientists are lying.

For the rest, I let you run with the balls of your insinuations as to what I may know or not know.

The only solution to the introduced conflict is to keep educating yourself.

I appreciate your response. You are wrong in assuming I did not go to the site. The problem is, because I don't have a scientific background I do not fully understand what I'm viewing, something that most people don't have the courage to admit. I am not going to pretend I fully understand this, hence my questions.

You are very defensive in your response. I'm trying to understand what you are posting. When you didn't completely respond to my question, I can only assume that you do not know the answer and as I said that's "ok". In the same manner you get frustrated with people not understanding all this scientific data you post, I get frustrated when posters ignore questions and can't admit there is some truth to what I'm posting because it gets in the way of their pride.

To someone who is new to this stuff, in my mind if we are comparing charts, it would have been helpful to put a side by side comparison of the Sept. 2011 chart next to Sept. 2012, so the average person could follow? You're assuming the reader understands everything your posting and how to interpret this data. I'd bet that the majority doesn't, and most likely will never admit. So if you want people to "get it" you have to understand your viewer and post accordingly.

Where you quoted the goals of the Institute of HeartMath above, sends alarm bells to my mind and justifies the very reason I should have concern with the data that comes out of this organization. Take a look at what I've underlined and bolded in black above.....

Any organization that enlists themselves as a non profit 501(c)(3), has not only the potential to receive government funding, but also the potential to be a mouthpiece for government indoctrination. And herein lies a forthcoming problem. It is equally possible that there's no government influence and just because a company is listed as a 501(c)(3), doesn't necessarily mean that government funding is being received. But this is exactly what concerns me and it should concern anyone who lists scientific data as fact, you have to consider who's funding these organizations and how do you know the information they're giving is legitimate? The obvious answer is you can't, and that's my point. It's a sad fact and most people don't have the time to research all the in's and out's of the data being provided.

I'm so sorry I'm not at your level. I wasn't as fortunate to receive an education from the halls of science like yourself and I have to say, maybe that's not such a bad thing due to all the indoctrination that has taken place. The advantage is I don't have to unlearn anything, I can work from a fresh slate.....which means, I'm not going to believe everything that someone dishes out as fact. We have become products of an environment which consists of what I like to call, "pre-conceived misconceptions", a term I coined myself based on my own observations. I'd have to be a fool not to question sources knowing what I know now.

So let's be clear, I'm not saying that all scientists are lying, you are twisting my words. You have to assess each study on a case by case basis. I often see you post a lot of scientific data and I have to wonder how much research you do behind the data before you post it as fact..... or do you just take it at face value because someone is "telling" you the research is accurate. I am not making fun of you, because, seriously, who has the time to not only research the data, but also the funding behind it? It's a valid concern...

Your right on, exactly what it is . Unless I build the equipment myself and know how it works I am left with beLIEving it or not. Since I have this knowing how the system works aka The matrix I don't have to look far away for the answer. Your keeping things simple and that is what people should do if they find something like this

Money runs the planet and it is in the hands of PTB.

If people would , just really wake up and see how deep the lie is and really start questioning everything they find your not going to get any better quality information here on the NET.

And a a nonprofit 501(c)(3) should be avoided with all cost I did not even go as far as clicking on the link to see what they where about. Good one that you saw this one.

So that people see it

[Hervé]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

Oh, and one more thing...if Gregg Braden is so full of ****, then please explain to me why he's on the board of the very company you quoted as fact, "Global Coherence Initiative", in several of your posts on this thread?

http://www.glcoherence.org/about-us/...ry-boards.html

LMAO, LMAO.....ok, Amzer Zo.....you gotta give me this one, please??? Just this once? I did some homework and I took your advice to continue "educating myself."

Point taken, and thank you for the link to the steering Committee of Global Coherence. Good job indeed!

I have no idea why he is on that committee on one hand and, on the other, completely dismisses their recorded data on the Schumann Resonances... in my view, this utterly demonstrates that he is indeed definitely full of it.

As I wrote earlier:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

According to their aims and goals, if there were a group inclined to "skew" the data towards an increase of the Schumann Resonances; it would be that one!

Well, they don't!

[...]

[Jayke]

Posted by Paul (here)
If the earth grows, wouldn't that decrease, not increase, Schumann's resonance? It would take longer for low frequency electromagnetic fields to go around the globe, so they would get around fewer times per second.

Good point, although Increase or decrease, I'm not defending the whole schumann resonance increase theory...Just pointing out that we don't live in a static universe and as such static conclusions only serve to limit our ever evolving understanding of the things around us.

When I try to search for statements that the speed of light is 144,000 miles per second, I find mention of Bruce Cathie's Grid, in which a day has 27 hours and a second (called a "grid second") is 9/8's longer than the usual second of present day physics. I don't really understand what I'm reading, but I don't notice any evidence that light is speeding up from what little I've read so far of it.

I didn't ask if the speed of light is increasing, Only if it's possible that the speed of light has the potential to vary as we move through changing fields of vibration throughout the universe? I'm just as clueless as the next person but the ancients definitely associated 144,000 with light and we now say the speed of light is 186,282 and since the ancients built monuments that are far more precise than anything we can accomplish with our modern tools of physics today I'm inclined to believe that it wasn't an error in the way they measured these things. It's not a question I can answer but where did the extra 42,282 miles per second come from?

I know the ancients used a nautical mile system but according to my calculator 144,000 nautical miles is still only 165,712 ordinary miles, so that's still a 20,570 difference.

to quote wikipedia:

in some controversial theories in cosmology, the speed of light also varies by changing the postulates of special relativity. However, this would require a rewrite of much of modern physics to replace the current system which depends on a constant c

I've long believed that the current system is definitely in desperate need of a rewrite

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jayke (here)
I've long believed that the current system is definitely in desperate need of a rewrite

Yup

[lightpotential]

With regard to the sacrifices, these took place every 52 years with the Aztecs, and where based upon the science of conjunctions. A video documentary I did explains this:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ExD7HM-HVgY

Keith

[Prodigal Son]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Jakye (here)
I remember David Wilcock talking about the expanding earth theory, how continental drift is a sign that the earth is in a slow but constant state of expansion. If that theory is to be believed then based on the scientific basis of how the Schumann resonance is created then technically the resonance frequency would slowly be increasing all the time

If the earth grows, wouldn't that decrease, not increase, Schumann's resonance? It would take longer for low frequency electromagnetic fields to go around the globe, so they would get around fewer times per second.

It depends on what is generating the Schumann frequency. If it's the sun and not the earth, it kinda changes everything.

We know that stars have "lives" where they are born and grow and evolve and intensify and eventually die. Our sun is no exception. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the sun itself is continually "creating" the system of planets and moons that revolve around it. In other words, the sun itself is generating our reality every second of every day, while human consciousness interacts with that reality and molds it according to its own thought forms and patterns. The sun supplies the canvas and paint, and we paint the picture.

Taking it a step further, it appears that the entire cosmos is interconnected, with the stars being hooked up in series like Christmas lights. If one goes out, they all do. Many different things that I have read point to the Sirius star system as the supplier of energy for our sun. Of course the whole galaxy would not be in series, but each particular "arm" of the Milky Way would have its own circuitry all supplied by the central sun or black hole, making the galaxy one big giant sentient being

That being said, getting back to the expanding earth theory, in my mind it's been a bit more than a theory since coming across this video by Neal Adams about six years ago....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ

Towards the tail end of that video Neal shows how the same effect is happening on Mars, but in his website he demonstrates how this is most likely happening across the entire solar system, presenting evidence from our own moon and Ganymede....

http://www.nealadams.com/index.php/s...ad-watch-learn

So it appears that as the sun intensifies and expands in both size and energy, so do all the heavenly bodies that are in its jurisdiction. David Wilcock and others have described the whole thing as a giant interlocking mechanism that works by electromagnetic interaction in the same fashion as the meshing gears of an intricate Swiss clock.

No wonder we are so very much affected and influenced by the heavenly bodies....

[Sith73]

I'm sure most of you have heard the term "the Gods" well in ancient times most races around the world worshiped the Gods. When you look at those words it really depends on who your Gods were. Well for the Mayans they worshiped and sacrificed to their "Gods" in blood. The Aztecs & Mayans worshiped reptilians as their Gods. There many different reptilian races throughout the universe. Some very good and others very bad. Races such as the Draco, Hydra, Orion & Sirius B are the main ones for starters. The Draconian 's have been on this world for a very long time. the Hydra and renegade zeta reticulation greys have been here working with the Dracos. Their manipulation and control over our world has been in play for a very long time. The Draconian 's see us nothing more as food, a resource to service them. Generating fear,death and wars is their way. Living in a fear based 3rd dimensional reality our world has been molded to service the reptilians. When the Atlantians were on planet they fought the reptilians until a truce was made. Both races created a new hybridization race with 50% reptilian genetics and the other 50% mammalian DNA or in other words Atlantis genetics. This new breed eventually branched off to about 12 to 13 families who now control the world. Everyone on planet has a percentage of reptilian genetics in them plus about 22 to 23 other races. Of course the majority of that genetic material is dormant and has been called junk DNA.

As we move through 2012 and into 2013 we are all changing, our cells are changing, vibrating faster to become more crystalline in nature. We are all moving to become middle 4th dimensional humans and some of us early 5th. Exciting times as the energies change so does mother earth. Earth changes are necessary ,but believe me there is a lot of help in our region of space to help us survive the changes and drive out the bad reptilians and their buddy's from our planet. Dec 2012 our world will not end.

Most of you are awake others are not. That's OK. Help each other in anyway you can. Learn how to grow a garden, stop watchen TV, get in nature. Get in tune of what you really are. Look inside yourself' s for the answers. We will all remember many things of like where we came from soon

In closing love each other as we are one race of beautiful people. Its an honor to be on this planet with all of you.

Sith

[we-R-one]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Point taken, and thank you for the link to the steering Committee of Global Coherence. Good job indeed!

I have no idea why he is on that committee on one hand and, on the other, completely dismisses their recorded data on the Schumann Resonances... in my view, this utterly demonstrates that he is indeed definitely full of it.

As I wrote earlier:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

According to their aims and goals, if there were a group inclined to "skew" the data towards an increase of the Schumann Resonances; it would be that one!

Well, they don't!

[...]

Thank you for being honorable to at least acknowledge my post.

Seriously, getting back to the real problem....now I don't know what to think. I have always appreciated Braden's work, but I'm no scientist......what I like is he explains things in a manner in which I can understand, until you open his book lol.....so over my head at times....

Let me ask you, why do you say he dismisses the Schumann Resonances? Is it because he often discusses about the frequencies rising/magnetics dropping and that does not coincide with the readings of the Schumann Resonances? I just want to understand your perception.

Where could the possible misinformation be coming from? I just find it hard to believe that he's on the Steering Committee if his work doesn't resonate. Surely there must be someone we can ask within the field. It could just be a matter of misrepresentation of facts. Since I like Braden I have to tell you it put my mind at ease to see him affiliated with GCI along with Lynne Taggart, who I don't know much about, but have heard lots of good things. In fact a friend just shared her paperwork with me from her Quantum Physics group that had some excerpts from some of Taggart's books.

So something isn't right here...it seems more like a case of miscommunication/misunderstanding. Anybody??

[Hervé]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

Let me ask you, why do you say he dismisses the Schumann Resonances? Is it because he often discusses about the frequencies rising/magnetics dropping and that does not coincide with the readings of the Schumann Resonances? I just want to understand your perception.

[...]

All I know and all I can say is that Gregg Braden has been preaching that the Schuman Resonance has been rising. Yet when one checks the Schumann Resonances' graph on that site one can't help but see that the fudamental resonance has been and remains steady at 7.8 Hz and therefore the same for the upper harmonics. Accordingly, the guy keeps on going with his preaching in spite of the blatant contradictory data.

That means he is in total disagreement with the recorded data and dismisses the latter to just keep going with his hobby horse. I am thankful to the crew in charge of the data acquisition for not being swayed by someone's idea of what "should be."

The main way to change the resonance is to change the thickness of the insulator between the ionosphere and earth's suface, i.e. the thickness of the air cover. This can be achieved locally by generating a bubble in the ionosphere via a HAARP beam but even that would be buffered at the planet scale.

The other way that insulator thickness can be changed would be because of a general weakening/strengthening of the earth's magnetic field which would generate an overall variation of the ionosphere altitude. That's what the Global Coherence project is measuring: the earth's magnetic field fluctuations and attempting to correlate those with the statistical behavior of populations.

[araucaria]

I seem to remember the 144/speed of light connection being in terms of degrees, using a base 666 instead of 360. A wave circling the globe at light speed, the Schuman resonance, will advance by 14.43 of these degrees per second, or by 144° every ten seconds. That’s the best I can do I’m afraid.

My main point however is on the possibility and desirability of a shift in the Schuman resonance. This is just a label for a particular frequency which people operate at along with many other frequencies, and which coincides with revs per sec at current light speed round a current sized earth. The interesting thing is what occurs at that frequency.

Summarizing, Braden says this:

For several thousand years, Earth has been functioning at a base resonant frequency of approximately eight cycles per second (7.8 Hz). In the study of human brain waves, this correlates to a deeply relaxed state of awareness. Earth has essentially been “asleep”. As predicted by the Fibonacci series, Earth appears to be moving toward a fundamental vibration of approximately 13 cycles per second, correlating to a waking state of the brain’s functioning. (Awakening to Zero Point, p.96.

There is one major imprecision here: the most we can say is that Earth has essentially been “asleep” with respect to human brain waves. With respect to Earth brain waves, Earth has likely been highly alert - aware. In other words, she needs no waking.

Planetary awakening is far too much for us to deal with. The best we can hope to do is on a personal level and on a human group level, which is the level on which Dr Valerie Hunt works. I shall quote from her Infinite Mind: Science of the Human Vibrations of Consciousness (2nd ed. 1996).

an experimental physicist, Bob Beck, believed that the mystical state of psychics and clairvoyants while they were at work somehow related to the brain waves. He developed sensitive instruments that he used to record the brain waves of proven mystics. When he processed these data, he found that their brain waves during their mystical work were 7.8 cycles per second, plus or minus 1/100th of a cycle. This particular frequency reminded him of the research about the Shumann (sic) resonance.

Shumann, a German living in the early 1930s, discovered a magnetic field that thrust upward from the earth rather than downward, as does the gravitational field. Beck reckoned that the great “hot spots”, the historical power areas of the world such as Stonehenge, the pyramids, Delphi, and others, probably had strong Shumann-type vibrations. Many people have had unusually profound experiences at these locations, which are revered as reservoirs of great truths. Mystics have attested to an increased power source radiating from the ground at these power spots. Shumann recorded this resonance as between seven and eight cycles per second. Beck found it to be 7.8 cycles within on-five-hundredth of a cycle, exactly the frequency he recorded from the brain waves of mystics. (p.63-4)

According to Hunt, healers also plug into this frequency. In which case, it sounds like we don’t want anyone messing around with the Shumann resonance This very low frequency provides the grounding we need, because:

Expanded consciousness encompasses a complete spectrum of vibrations with grounding in the lower frequencies combined with great power in the higher ones. Here any level of reality one desires is available. (p.112)

The difference between a concert grand and an upright piano is both the power of the high notes and the power of the bass notes, played on much longer strings. In other words, it works both ways, we need the lower vibrations as well:

The brain wave will drift into alpha, an idling state, and free the mind to soar. Some people use self-hypnosis ritually to calm the brain-talk so that the mind-field can think. And, as the mind-field is activated, telepathic knowing escalates, bringing in rich, unknown information from other fields. (p.157)

Grounding is absolutely crucial, because:

Cosmic awareness with a completely extended reality is rare. Pseudo-cosmic awareness is legion with ungrounded people. Cosmic awareness always is devoid of personal reference with a field so expanded, so large, that it literally flows into the universe. (p.118)

Beware of ungrounded consciousness, for:

Coma, believed to be a state of prolonged unconsciousness, is actually a state of high, ungrounded consciousness (p.119)

In other words, some people are asleep, while many who seek to be awake and aware are, with respect to the outside world,... completely comatose. “Earth is asleep” – yes, and we should do likewise

[RMorgan]

This whole thing is pretty funny in my opinion.

Thousands and thousands pages of discussions and mountains of speculations that will most probably lead to another deception.

All of this because of a calendar made by people who used to do barbaric human sacrifices and obviously couldn´t predict their own future.

It is just a calendar, but people found a way to use stupid logic to link it with DNA mutation, dimensional ascension and all sorts of completely flawed theories.

I know it´s very childish to say "I told you so". I´ve been in this position countless times here in this forum, but I never actually said it out loud.

However, when 2013 begins and nothing abnormal happens, I think I wont be able to control my inner child and I´ll make a brand new thread in bold capital letters, titled "I TOLD YOU SO".

It´s just a calender folks; nothing else.

Cheers,

Raf.

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[araucaria]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
This whole thing is pretty funny in my opinion.

Thousands and thousands pages of discussions and mountains of speculations that will most probably lead to another deception.

All of this because of a calendar made by people who used to do barbaric human sacrifices and obviously couldn´t predict their own future.

It is just a calendar, but people found a way to use stupid logic to link it with DNA mutation, dimensional ascension and all sorts of completely flawed theories.

I know it´s very childish to say "I told you so". I´ve been in this position countless times here in this forum, but I never actually said it out loud.

However, when 2013 begins and nothing abnormal happens, I think I wont be able to control my inner child and I´ll make a brand new thread in bold capital letters, titled "I TOLD YOU SO".

It´s just a calender folks; nothing else.

Cheers,

Raf.

Yes Raf, It would be childish if you said so in 2013, but to say so now is much more interesting

It is just a calendar, but what a calendar does is mark a before and an after. You mark on it that dreaded appointment with the doctor, and after he has told you there is nothing to worry about you feel much better.

People will be so much more relaxed in 2013 I'm sure you won't want to tell them I told you so

[Rantaak]

Despite the dissenting beliefs of many others who gather here, these predictions are in accordance to what I have been shown in the second attention, as well as the knowledge that I have held in my heart for many many lifetimes between now and pre-atlantis.

Thank you, viking. Let's all get off our butts and make this happen.