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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    The implications of such an event are so "BIG" that it is even hard to think
    about them. I really wonder if this has already happened some place else in our
    Universe (or Multiverse).
    Just call me on down from the old crazy tree Ilie, but I would suggest it's happened right here on our very own big blue marble, and well more than once.

    Quote Since the current name of the game on Earth is "how can I extract more
    energy to sustain myself", one has to wonder what would be the new game once
    energy availability becomes limitless... perhaps something along the lines:
    "What do You want to create today?"
    I think if our collective hearts and souls are not in the right place first, we would simply become the new Godzilla, and wake up every day asking: "What do you want to destroy today?"
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    Hi Ilie:

    Great post. Yes, FE has likely been done before, and like Fred stated, maybe on this planet, but if it was, it may not have been done in an enlightened or loving manner, and we had to start over. I personally think that mastering FE may be part of a society’s evolution, at least for species that can manipulate their environments (Level 18 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level18, which may be ahead for us).

    Yes, the “creation” part of what FE can bring can be the fun part. Bucky talked about it. Another way to look at it is humanity ascending Maslow’s Hierarchy a few levels:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%...archy_of_needs

    Yes, we are on the brink of self-annihilation or making the leap to abundance. There is probably not much middle ground, or if there is, I would rather not return to see George Bush the Eighth become president, or some new Chinese dynasty rule the planet (of course, Godzilla really will, but he lets the little guys play their games as long as they do not threaten the big game).

    To Fred’s post, I will get a little more specific on the kind of transition to FE that I am trying to help initiate. After many years in this milieu, I know that Joe Average is not going to wake up to FE and abundance unless it is delivered to his home, like Machiavelli said:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    But Joe Average is also not a sociopath. Sociopaths run the show on Earth because humanity is asleep. If sociopaths (AKA Dark Pathers http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving) keep running the show for much longer, it will be game over for humanity.

    There really is a “battle for souls” happening, IMO. The Dark Pathers want to drag everybody down to hell with them, and the Light Pathers want us to turn to corner, and have as many ascend to heaven as possible (and make heaven on Earth manifest). The fact is that the vast majority of people are currently in thrall to their false personalities, in the Michael jargon (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael), and fear is what keeps them locked into it. I have seen that phenomenon in spades in the USA since 9/11 (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#wtc), where Americans abdicated their collective sentience, allowing themselves to be herded by the social managers. Some of the stupidest things that I have ever heard have come from the mouths of some of the “smartest” people that I know. It took me many years to figure it out. That stupidity is a studied stupidity, because they believe that their stupidity will feed them. Those who think and talk so idiotically are actually the honest ones. If they really acknowledged the truth, their consciences would assail them, so those mindless imperial citizen beliefs are games to protect their consciences. One might ask if they really have a conscience, but I think that they do, and if they could see how it does not have to be a kill-or-be-killed world, where “I win, you lose” is the byword, I think that we could see an awakening like we have never had before, and the weaponization and strip mining fears of the Level 5s will not come to pass. We may still need a peacekeeping force of grandmothers for a while, until the delusional Young Warriors and the greedy finally get it, but I think that the lamb’s path to FE and abundance is at least worth trying.

    But the masses will not wake up until they can see it with their eyes. It is the Doubting Thomas dynamic, and I have written about aspects of this issue in many ways (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question). The mass awakening will not happen, IMO, until the means for it to happen are demonstrable. This is part of the conundrum, and why Godzilla sits on his throne and why every Level 10 effort that I ever saw went down in flames.

    I think that there is another way to get there, and I am trying it out. We will see how it goes. Time to go play husband.

    Best,

    Wade
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    ... but I think that the lamb’s path to FE and abundance is at least worth trying.

    Wade
    I agree - an FE future is at worst, the "least worst" and at best, the "most best" future for mankind.

    It appears to me that a non-FE future is plausibly sustainable but not without sacrificing/eradicating creativity and love from most of the human experience. This strikes me as a massively sub-optimal solution for humanity.

    An FE future is most definitely plausibly sustainable but only after boosting creativity and love among people. However, FE is not free of mortal perils for humanity. It strikes me that a transition to an FE future is likely to be problematic - lets not kid ourselves, there is no magic FE wand available to us to make such a transition occur in a blink of an eye and without teething problems. Once FE is recognised by Joe Average as real, nothing can be done to undo its release so we are dealing with a single shot matter here - get it right first time or not at all.

    Is it not the case though once released, FE development will be pretty much impossible to control. Not that I want to put restrictions on developments which are helpful to mankind but many exist which possibly may be very harmful, for example weaponisation of FE. I am convinced that humanity will over the long term adjust to FE by regulating itself in a much more loving, sharing and constructive way - this much is pretty clear from Wade's explanations so far.

    But ... what about the bumps, jolts and possible destruction of humanity in the wake of introducing FE. Can we regulate the introduction of FE in a way that early stage risks become insignificant?

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    Hi Ixopoborn:

    Great post, and the kind that I like seeing. Yes, FE is the one with potential like nothing else, which is exactly why Godzilla has the lid on it so tightly. Because of what I know of his global surveillance capabilities, nobody can do FE under the radar, and I’ll bet that the same would go for weaponizing it. The technical problems were solved long ago. The problem is in the collective heart and mind of humanity.

    If we got the right people in place to help, there would not be any weaponization of FE or using it to strip mine the planet. The tools to prevent it already exist. And it would not take long at all, after the initial awakening, to see how stupid and self-destructive such activities would be. Today, all of the fears/justifications for weaponization and ecosystems exploitation operate from the scarcity principle. It really does not take a genius-level IQ to understand the implications of FE. The resistance that I have seen in more than 99% of the population that hears about FE (Levels 1 to 3, and 5 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1) is not because FE is a difficult idea by itself, but because the implications threaten to end the world as we know it, and that is what makes people fearful (those dismissals are all fear-based responses). Love is the answer, in both obvious and subtle ways.

    The early stage risks and inertia of Joe Average, combined with the organized suppression and the masses being their own worst enemies, are what make this a conundrum, and there are no easy answers. I have put many ideas out there on how to get over the hump, and it comes down to what it always has come down to: finding enough people who care. That is the crux of the issue, and the primary lesson of my journey is how few truly do (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn). That is not a judgment, but a reality that I was beaten over the head with long enough until I finally understood. That is why I say that I am looking for needles in haystacks; I know how few are out there. I believe that those needles can lead the way and produce “harmonic” effects that will guide the trajectory of how FE manifests and is implemented. This is my great experiment that I have barely begun, and what I have never seen anybody try before. Until now, every single effort that I have seen or been a part of falls into those pitfalls below Level 12, or becomes a Level 13 casualty.

    I was just reading this morning about how the Caribbean coral reefs are nearly dead:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...se-environment

    The wake-up calls have been blaring for many years for those with ears to hear. But the environmentalists don’t get it, as they propose austerity “solutions” and other small-ball “answers.” People like Heinberg advocate getting rid of six billion excess humans:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

    and so on. Again, getting to FE and enlightenment is like walking the razor’s edge. Not many can do it, but I am looking for the few that can. To the extent that such people can be amassed and become active, the lower the probability of a bumpy ride to a world based on FE. The lamb’s path is not only one that could overcome the inertia and suppression, but it could also be the one that ensures a gentle transition.

    OK, back to the human journey. The Indus Valley Civilization seems to have perhaps been the least stratified of the early civilizations.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post550716

    Was it enlightened? The survivors of that civilization began to urbanize India, and the caste system emerged from those early days:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...orical_records

    If there was an enlightening influence from the Indus Valley Civilization, it did not prevent the subcontinent from becoming a pretty miserable place for the lower castes. Thousands of years later, the situation is relatively unchanged. I live next to Microsoft’s campus, and our community is dominated by migrants from India. They are all upper caste members, mainly Brahmin. They are the only people in India with any opportunity, and they get the heck out of India when they have the chance, like the nouveau riche Chinese who mainly want to move to North America.

    While we cannot yet decipher the Indus Valley Civilization script, we have deciphered that of their contemporary and neighbor, Sumer. The cuneiform tablets are among the earliest forms of writing, and as with all other early writing, it was primarily accounting to count up elite tribute:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing...ing_of_writing

    If the Indus script is ever deciphered, it will likely be primarily accounting, as with all the others. About the oldest example of laws from those days is the Code of Hammurabi:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

    The death penalty was liberally applied to all manner of offence.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post543906

    Those Bronze Age times were exceedingly brutal. They arguably became worse when the Iron Age came to the Fertile Crescent, with the Old Testament documenting unending genocidal slaughters. When the Romans invented murder as entertainment for the masses:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#gladiator

    it was not so much of an aberration. Life was nasty, brutal, and short in those ancient times. Even in a “refined” place such as Ancient Athens, the so-called birthplace of democracy, slaves outnumbered free people.

    All worked metals were originally used as elite prestige goods, usually in some form of art. That goes for the New World, too. There was only a little bronze smelting happening when the Spaniards came a conquering, and it originated in South America:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallu...umbian_America

    There is no evidence of any metal smelting in North America before the Europeans arrived. I have seen all manner of mystical explanation for why North America was such an unsullied paradise compared to Europe, and I can buy the idea that the Iroquois may have been an old soul culture:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#iroquois

    But bronze metallurgy eventually made its way to Mesoamerica from South America, and Mesoamerican maize eventually made its way to the Eastern Woodlands. Because the ancestors of the natives of the Western Hemisphere killed off all the candidates for draft animals:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleisto...#North_America

    the incentives for inventing wheels, roads, and plow agriculture were limited. North America saw the rise and decline of the Mississippian culture before Europeans arrived, with a city like Cahokia abandoned long before the Europeans arrived:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia...ia.27s_decline

    and environmental decline around the city is thought to be largely responsible, as well as perhaps Little Ice Age droughts. Many anthropologists generally think that it was probably only a matter of time before the Bronze Age and perhaps Iron Age made its way to North America, with its resultant deforestation and other effects of civilization.

    So, I will tend to focus on the Bronze Age and Iron Age peoples of the Old World, as they were “ahead” of the New World in their development. That is partly why the New World was so easily conquered. The Spanish understood the Native American mind well enough to set them against each other for easy conquests, while the Spanish mind was often inscrutable to the Native American mind. Todorov wrote about it in his classic study:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conques...n_of_the_Other

    But when a high-energy culture meets a low-energy culture, the high-energy one always “wins.” This is identical to the ecological principle that the life form with the highest carrying capacity always wins in a competition for resources:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post546922

    The interaction of “carrying capacity,” technology, ideology, and culture can be seen as complex, but scientists easily rank them in importance, or at least what influences everything else: the material wellbeing of the peoples studied, which is always rooted in the energy situation. Going back to Tainter and why civilizations collapse:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post550716

    when a civilization runs out of energy, it can no longer maintain the complexity that allows it to run, and the civilization will always collapse into smaller populations, simpler social organization, and lose the collective skills that the agricultural surplus afforded the civilization. There is no exception in world history to that dynamic. Time to run off to work, but future posts will trace the development of those early Old World civilizations, which looks into some of those Stone Age cultures from time to time.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Only time for a brief post this morning. As humans produced items of economic value, such as tools and shelter, they could exchange them (or steal them). Barter and giving gifts were early economic exchanges. Before people were sedentary, if a hunter made a big kill, it was shared with the rest of the band. The kill was too big to eat for an individual before it spoiled, and sharing it created reciprocity, where the hunter and his family could eat another hunter’s kill at another time. But when people became sedentary, and a farmer could not just leave an area of conflict like a hunter-gatherer theoretically could, thus began civilization. One of the earliest outcomes of civilization was possessions and the means to exchange them. The evidence of using money goes back before domestication, as obsidian was traded 14,000 years ago:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...gence_of_money

    11,000 years ago, grain and cattle were used as money. Until that time, money had intrinsic value. You could use the money, such as make a weapon from the obsidian or eat the grain and cattle. It is called commodity money:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_money

    The shekel was a unit of weight and money, which was first used about 5,000 years ago, in Mesopotamia. By 4,000 years ago, money was a standard part of the Fertile Crescent civilizations, with the Code of Hammurabi and other laws setting fine levels and interest rates.

    Gold was a coveted elite good from the very beginnings of civilization, and was traded, but did not get used as standardized money until about 2,600 years ago:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rdized_coinage

    Gold was a sacred metal, especially in sun-worshipping religions, such as Egypt’s and the Inca’s, where it was reserved for royalty. By the time of the invasion of Palestine by the Israelis more than 3,000 years ago, slaughtering the entire city of Jericho, and stealing all their gold and silver for “The Lord’s Treasury,”

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua

    was normal. King Solomon had his mines, the Jerusalem’s temple was gilt with gold. The Romans even had a goddess of money:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneta#Juno_Moneta

    But back in the days of Sumer, that earliest of civilizations, the political, religious and economic interests were united in their temples, which is where the gold was stored.

    Similar to the dual benefits of civilization - an increase in the standard of living for most who participated, and an opportunity for the most clever, violent and ruthless to become elites and skim the society’s economic cream (integrative versus conflict theory – see Tainter’s The Collapse of Complex Societies for a discussion of this issue) - money was both a medium of exchange but also a way of amassing economic and political control.

    The early religions all made the elites the representatives of divinity on Earth, further justifying their positions, and political dynasties were the norm. Religious and political indoctrination went hand-in-hand back then, to condition the masses to accept their status. There was little social mobility. There was not really enough agricultural surplus to fund freedom, as all hands were needed on deck to create the modest surplus that the elites disproportionately enjoyed.

    Slavery began when civilization did, and it has always been a strictly economic institution:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Economics

    Mystical material such as the Michael teachings:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

    provide soul-based frameworks to make those economic/political/social hierarchies comprehensible, but it certainly does not make them right. Kings rack up their largest negative karma when playing tyrant (“off with their heads”), and servers face their greatest fears when being compelled to serve. But those are on the scarcity/fear side of the coin. The abundance/love side of the coin is when “fragments” reach their potential and make “essence” contact (their souls come through).

    Sorry for the short post, but I have to run off to work. I have long work days ahead of me for the next two months.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    A slight break of stride here. This is a typical economist playing analyst:

    http://www.voxeu.org/article/us-economic-growth-over

    The cause of the vastly increasing standard of living during the Industrial Revolution is the same one that led to the hunter-gather Golden Age and the Domestication Revolution.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct

    But the importance of energy, indeed its supreme position, is hard to find in those kinds of economic analyses, which is partly why physical scientists rarely have much respect for economists.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I only have time for another brief post today. Those early days of civilization were the beginnings of ideological indoctrination, and those days established a pattern that continues today. The pattern was creating a religion (or corrupting existing religious beliefs) that exalted the elites as the representatives of divinity on Earth (the secular versions today are the lies told about Columbus and Washington (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint), for instance, and in the case of Serra, it is literally making a genocidal priest into a saint (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#saint)).

    Lavish temples and other monumental architecture were erected by the surplus labor that the agricultural surplus afforded, which further aggrandized the elites. Religious indoctrination further enforced the political/economic/social order. The elites always engaged in conspicuous economic consumption as a mark of their status (including harems). Those who played along got to eat, and had a chance to move up a notch in the hierarchy. Those at the hierarchy’s bottom were supposed to know their place, and slavery made its appearance with civilization. Breeding slaves was better than capturing them, because people who have known freedom will always seek it, while those who have only known slavery are less likely to desire freedom.

    In the life of bands and villages, everybody knew everybody else, more or less (and gossip largely replaced grooming as the social “glue”). That was not possible in urban living. Indoctrination and the development of cultural identity was partly to form social “cohesion.” As Albert Einstein said, that kind of conditioning is about controlling the semi-sentient herd:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#sentience

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#einstein

    As the domestication of the silver fox made very clear:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

    domestication results in the retention of juvenile traits in adults. This is typical in domesticated animals, and the silver fox domestication shows how quickly it can happen.

    That juvenilization is also called neoteny:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

    and humans are essentially juvenile chimps, as far as our morphology goes:

    http://www.gmilburn.ca/2009/03/30/ch...s-and-neoteny/

    Research is pointing to neoteny being partly responsible for our large brains:

    http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketsci...man-brains-fr/

    That lactose tolerance that was such a boon to herders:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post543124

    is a form of neoteny. Humans are the only animals that can digest lactose past infancy. This interplay of genetics, diet, and civilization is thought to have been at work in the domestication of humans. Certain aggressive traits may have been bred out of humanity,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-do...tion#In_humans

    http://wonderquest.com/human-domestication.htm

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2082022/

    and we aren’t the only the only primate who may have done this:

    http://www.nextnature.net/2012/02/bo...ed-themselves/

    How much of that was a culling by elites to make a more manageable herd?

    Tellingly, while the forebrains of humans have expanded enormously (the most dramatic evolutionary change in the history of life on Earth), the seat of our emotions, our limbic system:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system

    is not larger in humans than the other great apes. This is a big part of our problem. If we turn the corner, this will likely change, perhaps as dramatically as our forebrains did.

    And this plays right into the FE conundrum. Those who think that the mass of humanity can “get it,” without the physical means to accomplish it, have a very tall task ahead of them. I have been part of some of the greatest Level 10 attempts yet made (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level10), and they did not have a prayer. More than 99% of humanity is not going to “get it” until they can see and touch it. And when they do, there will be material and eventually genetic reinforcement of love and abundance. Watching people being forced to murder each other was entertainment in that largest ancient civilization. Those days are over, I hope, although vestiges of them can still be seen in beer-swilling American “sports” culture, and how violent Hollywood movies always do well overseas.

    Those that I foresee leading humanity to FE and abundance will be those who broke out of the herd, can think for themselves, and operate from the heart. I don’t like the word “faith,” especially how it is used by religious fundamentalists. Coming to an understanding that FE is here is not an act of blind faith. People can do their homework, do some investigation, and go far down the path to get satisfied, long before they run into Godzilla. The FE field is richly documented, but several thousand classified energy patents and the many thousands of people who took the quiet money can make it more difficult than other areas, as far as getting to the bottom of it. I am one of the few survivors of the FE wars with a public presence, but I have yet to ever hear from anybody who obtained Dennis’s books, the two most important of which were written from his cells. That situation is partly why this will be a long slog. Almost all people are lazy and want to be spoon-fed, without having to leave their easy chairs, having FE and enlightenment dropped in their laps. The people who will lead humanity to FE have a lot of work ahead of them, but I do not know of a worthier cause, not if you are a human. In the end, we all have to do the work, and those doing the heavy lifting will benefit the most, soul-wise, and it will give the rest of humanity a leg-up in getting over the hump. It is hard enough just being here, so nobody gets off easy.

    Time for work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Time for another brief one. I doubt that it can be stressed enough that early civilization was filled with ideological indoctrination via symbology. The monumental architecture was part of it, and could be seen as about the ultimate in elite luxury goods. Ornate burials, with the monumental architecture acting as tombs at times, was also part of the system. Potentates would be buried with “wives” and slaves, killed to order, and other elaborate grave goods. King Tut’s grave goods, bought with the lives of countless hapless souls in the gold mines, are still on tour, coming to Seattle soon.

    Attributing divine status to elites, with the religion, enforced by monumental architecture, luxury goods, harems and the like, was all about justifying their position atop the hierarchy. All early use of metal was as artistic, elite prestige goods. Practical use came later, but for gold and silver, practical use virtually never came in the ancient world. Those metals were too soft to use as tools, so their use was restricted to elite luxury art, and eventually money. But unlike cattle or grain, silver and gold had no intrinsic value. It was only used as money because it was scarce.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#smith

    In a world of scarcity, however, something that scarce became the focus of more obsessions over the millennia than for any other substances. Just yesterday, I was watching an economic debate:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/schiff...vs-anti-matter

    where gold was called real money, as opposed to paper money. Money is only accounting, not reality. Unless the money has value other than accounting use, it is merely a symbol, with no intrinsic value. Even today, the industrial uses of gold and silver are not major. Two-thirds of silver production today (which is an infinitesimal fraction of metal mining) goes into industrial use, but only about 10% of gold production makes its way into industry, primarily in electronics. The pharaohs did not have electronics.

    The gold situation is one of earliest examples of ideology trumping reality. Gold and silver were worthless metals, but people killed each other over them, millions were worked to death mining them, and even today, they hold an exalted status, even called the only “real” money. They are as real as paper is. About the only difference is that paper is easier to produce. Any discussion of real economics must dismiss “precious” metals as of very minor economic importance, whose value is chiefly due to how rare they are, not how useful they are. But in almost every “economic” discussion I have ever seen, the focus is on money, which is merely a symbol of reality, not the real thing.

    Gold and silver formed the early basis for what is known as the financial economy, where a layer of abstraction was laid over the real economy. And if people would accept the symbol as reality, then the manipulation of the symbol could manipulate reality, at least in the minds of the deceived. The abstraction of reality has reached new levels in the modern economy, where money is no longer based on something as useless but rare as “precious” metals, but on slick accounting games, where the manipulators can virtually make it up as they go.

    The reason why everybody focuses on the symbol of the economy and not the economy itself is because money is how we eat, put roofs over our heads, and buy our energy. But that only has a microeconomic meaning, and really does not mean much in the big picture. Economists have also lost sight of the real economy, homogenizing everything with market prices and producing their misleading analyses, one of which I recently presented:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post552107

    Physical scientists often call economics a wannabee science. If you ever read technical economic literature, it is all advanced math, and it is almost completely divorced from reality. Almost no prominent economists could see the crash of 2008-2009 coming, but it was easy to see for those with their eyes open.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#enron

    I have seen economists described as intellectual warriors of the elites, performing similar services as those ancient priests did that exalted the elites.

    Those draconian laws of Hammurabi, or the endless genocides in the Old Testament, to steal the gold and silver:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua

    were signs of the times. The Egyptians, and later the Romans, worked slaves to death in the gold mines. Explorations of the ancient Egyptian and Roman mines yielded mounds of bones of the miners that died in the mines. There were even instances of the skeleton having a collar that anchored the hapless miner to the rock wall, mining until death. In ancient Rome, “working” as a gladiator was usually preferable to working in the mines.

    The financial economy is not real and never has been, but because it is how participants typically interact and is how they get fed, I call the financial economy the egocentric economy, whose motto is, “What’s in it for me?” As long as the focus is on the meaningless financial economy, the elites have the game well in hand, and the herd is well tended.

    Scientists and groups such as the radical left tend to see the financial economy’s games for what they are, and they focus on the real economy, which is based on matter and energy and always has been. The real economy aligns with classical economic concept of economic production. The financial economy aligns with the classical economic concept of economic exchange. But without production there can be no exchange.

    I have been invited into “radical” economic forums, but when I peruse the topics, they are all about money and taxation, which is all about exchange. There is nothing radical about that. Under an abundance-based economy, which would necessarily be based on FE, money becomes meaningless. Government and taxes wither away to nothing. The idea of elites becomes obsolete, and that is exactly why Godzilla has the lid so tightly on FE, not due to some kind of benevolent concern that humanity will misuse FE and destroy the planet. Godzilla’s reign is well on the way to destroying the planet, and instead of letting FE out to the public, they have plans to terraform Mars and other insane strategies, in case Earth becomes uninhabitable. Fortunately, cooler heads may prevail:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    although I am not waiting for their collective “benevolence” to carry the day.

    American Indians could often see through the European obsession with money:

    http://www.quotes.net/quote/16519

    So, there were huge downsides to early Old World civilizations, as well as the slow development of technological means to wrench more energy from the environment. The Old World’s Bronze Age began around when the pastoralists began their disastrous invasions of the fertile river valleys of the Fertile Crescent. Those milk-digesting herders, with their paternalists, sky-god religions:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post543124

    eventually overthrew many of the sedentary, agricultural civilizations, and set themselves up as the new elite. Long before the Judeo-Christian religions appeared on the scene, religion was turned from the feminine deities of the agricultural religions to the masculine deities of the pastoral religions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#masculine

    The herders triumphed. Historians have often remarked on the cultural renaissance that followed the overthrow of the old order by the conquerors. A classic example is the court of Kublai Khan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kublai_Kahn

    the grandson of Genghis. Today, about sixteen million men can claim descent from Genghis:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan

    He was a busy man, with his harems and rapes.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...4_genghis.html

    Genghis was only one in a very long line of brutal warriors on horseback, invading the settled regions and establishing themselves as the new elites. The Mongol hordes were understandably the model for the Klingons.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon...ayal_over_time

    All civilizations are built on their energy footprints. The more energy that could be concentrated, the larger the civilization. That ability to concentrate energy was dependent on generating the energy in the first place. In early civilization, that meant the production of an agricultural surplus. Plow agriculture did that, which was dependent on draft animals and the metal that made the plows. I have already described the dynamics of deforestation, metal smelting, plow agriculture and the eventual desertification of the lands:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rus#post543474

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post547555

    so I won’t belabor it here, but it should suffice to say that it happened to all the Old World cultures, with the partial exception of Egypt. The silt (due to erosion, not all natural) from the Nile’s annual flood is what kept Egypt’s fields fertile, and Egypt had the Old World’s most reliable food supply, which was why it was so coveted, conquered time and again.

    Time to run to work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    In the Old World, the dynamics of their Bronze Age economies were all similar, with metal smelting, deforestation, plow agriculture, and domestic animals and crops suited to the various climates. In those days, the domesticates were raised not far from their place of origin where they were domesticated, and are still raised there today. That quintessential Chinese dish, chicken and rice, was made from life forms domesticated in China. The Chinese rice paddy system was the most sophisticated agricultural system in the Old World. The chinampa system of Mesoamerica:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinampa

    was a cousin. In Ruddiman’s Plows, Plagues and Petroleum, he presents data that supports his arguments that cattle grazing and the artificial wetlands of the paddy system began to increase the methane content of the atmosphere measurably about five thousand years ago. He also presents data that supports his arguments that the deforestation of the early Domestication Revolution began to increase the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere measurably about eight thousand years ago. Those trends have only become more extreme in the modern era. Contrary to what Rush Limbaugh and friends think (or are paid to think), humans have been altering Earth’s physical and ecological systems for thousands of years. The primary upshot of Ruddiman’s work is that all of these human activities that are altering the composition of Earth’s atmosphere have been having the effect of keeping Earth warmer than usual and pushing back the glacial interval that has been coming back like clockwork every hundred thousand years.

    I have seen estimates that humanity may be pushing back the next glacial interval by as much as 50,000 years. One thing is for sure: we are in uncharted territory with burning fossil fuels like we are. The venting of carbon dioxide by humanity is a hundred times greater than natural variation. Because we are in uncharted territory, some scientists have been coming up with frightening possibilities that are well within reason. One being promoted by Peter Ward these days is that the oceans have been absorbing most of the carbon dioxide of the industrial era. It is acidifying the oceans, and the extinction of shellfish is already being documented due to the acidifying oceans. It is very possible that the oceans will stop being such a handy sponge for humanity’s pollution, and we hit 1000 PPM carbon dioxide in a hundred years, which in turn precipitates Canfield Oceans and a hydrogen sulfide event and the resulting mass extinction as the ozone layer is wiped out.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eld#post532246

    It has happened before, and we are toying with events like that now, in our awesome short-sightedness. But back to early civilization. Copper melts at about the temperature of a good hearth fire, and was the first smelted metal, along with tin and other metals that made bronze. Iron, however, does not melt until getting about 500 degrees Celsius hotter than copper needs to. In order to melt iron, technology had to improve to get those hotter temperatures. The trick was getting more oxygen to the fire, and after thousands of years of Bronze Age smelting, Old World technicians learned how to smelt iron:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...d_the_Iron_Age

    Iron is a superior metal to bronze, when carbon is added to make steel, and about three thousand years ago, iron smelting displaced bronze smelting. Iron Age peoples had a technological advantage over Bronze Age peoples, and the Celtic people overran Western Europe with their superior iron technology, especially weaponry:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts#Origins

    Steel plows and axes were far superior to bronze ones, and the ability to wrench more energy from the land increased. By that time, the milk-drinking herders had successfully invaded the agricultural lands, and they brought their paternalistic religion and language with them, and half of the world speaks their daughter languages today. The Old World became an exceedingly violent place, as documented in the Old Testament and other early literary sources. Empires rose and fell, constantly, over thousands of years in that part of the world:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=MiGdF...eature=related

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=jpD01...eature=related

    If you have light skin or can digest milk, you are likely descended from those Old World ancestors.

    That Old World technological complex interacted, all over Eurasia and Africa. There were some natural barriers, such as the Sahara and the Tibetan Plateau, but various technologies eventually spread throughout them. None of those barriers were as formidable as the oceans that separated the Eastern and Western Hemispheres. While there is some evidence of interchange between the hemispheres before Columbus arrived, the effects were very minor.

    Time to run off to work.

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    Villages, towns and cities originally arose in Stone Age cultures, after agriculture was invented. The population densities afforded by agriculture were a necessary prerequisite for urban formation. Studies of cities always place their development within an economic context.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#Theories

    If the economic advantages of cities outweighed the disadvantages, a city might form. When sedentary populations formed due to the stationary energy source that agriculture provided (which some small exceptions, such as the Pacific Northwest culture http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#northwest ), people began to have possessions, primarily stored food. Farming tools and dwellings comprised the other primary possessions of those early sedentary civilizations. Because those early villages deforested the land and exhausted the soils rapidly, they were not permanent, but moved along riversides and lakeshores, finding new patches of forests and undisturbed soils. Villages formed before towns, and towns before cities.

    The reasons for urban formation vacillate between integrative and conflict theory:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ive#post551842

    Integrative theory best explains why average people were attracted to cites, while conflict theory best explains why elites appeared and took advantage of the situation.

    Eridu vies for the title of world’s first city:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

    It was founded by fisherman, farmers and herders, and is an example of why cities were also not sustainable, really for the same reasons why villages were not: they eventually lost their energy supply, often by the environmental degradation that results from civilized activities (deforestation, erosion, siltation, salination). Protecting possessions from theft was one of the earliest reasons for cities. Walled and fortified cities provided protection from thieves, especially the organized thievery and murder practiced by armies. Early cities were partly based on an economization of protection.

    Reduced transportation costs are one of the other primary reasons for cities to form. The exchange of goods, people, and ideas is made more energy efficient in cities. Cities allowed for people to develop specialized skills in a way that less dense forms could not achieve. Of course, the elites turned cities into showcases of the religions that exalted them, with the standard monumental architecture, and human sacrifice was common enough:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_s...on_and_context

    While there was enough energy to fund them, cities allowed for more complex social organization. When they ran out of energy, they collapsed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#tainter

    As with all human endeavors, it all rides on the foundation of how energy is acquired, preserved and used. Everything depends on that, just as all ecosystems do. Only after the energy situation is handled can the other aspects of civilization and human development happen, and energy availability shapes all of them. Other than some Stone Age civilizations that did not deforest and plow the land, no civilization has ever been sustainable. Today’s industrialized civilizations are burning though their primary resource (hydrocarbon fuels) about a million times as fast as they were created, and the geophysical processes that formed the hydrocarbon deposits that are being mined and burned today will not form any more for many millions of years. The process that led to the formation of coal beds will never happen again:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post527620

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post528765

    Coal was the first, and will be the last, fossil fuel, and when it is gone, there won’t be any more of note, ever again, on this planet. The oil deposits were originally laid down in anoxic conditions, the kind that accompany mass extinction events (Peter Ward discusses it in Under A Green Sky, and see how anoxic oceans are associated with mass extinction events http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoxic_event http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoxic_event#Background http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/End...tinction_event ),

    Burning through forests and soils was just a phase (a phase which continues, as a quarter of Earth’s topsoil has been destroyed by humanity since the 1940s). Burning through the megafauna preceded it. Burning through all the fossil fuels is simply the latest phase of unsustainability, and in few ways does it resemble abundance.

    City life enabled the rise of professions, where humanity’s skillset increased. A key invention was writing and literacy. While it was originally invented so that elites could keep track of their loot, as with many other elite inventions, it eventually tricked down to the masses. Writing and literacy freed up the human mind for something other than memorizing oral histories, and resulted in advances that eventually led to scientific and other revolutions. A lot is lost in reducing information and ideas to writing, which is partly why pre-literate cultures did not trust it. Some still don’t:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#iroquois

    Civilization also had many downsides, with crowding, filth, and disease being some of them. Even in Europe not too long ago, life expectancy was lower in the cities than the countryside, so the constant influx of the “surplus” population from the countryside is what kept the city populations from falling. While proportionally, violence decreased in civilization, as compared to hunter-gather societies, violence became an art form, with all manner of flowery and exalted justification for it, such are humanity’s delusions. To a great degree, the game is the same today. But history clearly shows the trends, going all the way back to the beginnings of life on Earth. When there was enough energy for everybody, all was in peace and plenty. But when there were more mouths to feed than the energy source provided, the mouths began to eat each other. The bonobos are a recent example of an energy subsidy changing the social organization, as they were the first ape to end male domination:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

    Humans are still working on it.

    Not only was Mesopotamia the site of the first cities; it was also the site of the first empires, first Sumer (arguably) and then Akkad:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire

    Empires are about elites concentrating more energy than a city can provide. As with city formation, empires also had their efficiencies, at least for a while. In an empire that was running on all cylinders, there was little internal division, so the energy wasted on warfare between city-states was saved. Commerce was an easier affair, which is again an energy concept. Along with commerce came standardization of goods, such as brands. Ancient Rome had trademarks:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark#History

    and brands go back as far as 10,000 years.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand#History

    Caveat Emptor is one of the world’s oldest aphorisms:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor

    The virtues and ills of civilization are big subjects, but they always come down to the energy issue, at their root. I have a busy weekend ahead of me, so signing off for now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    As I have written, the control of fire was both the first social act that separated humans from all other animals, and may have led to the appearance of humans.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking

    Controlling fire was also the most significant energy innovation ever, at least until we master FE. Burning wood was a huge boon to humanity, and a catastrophe for ecosystems. Wood also had another quality that made it such an epochal substance: it floated on water. Humans had to have made boats to migrate to Australia probably more than 50,000 years ago, which precipitated the first human-caused mass-extinction event:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

    The earliest boats were certainly dugout canoes. Moving people and goods by boat over water is vastly more energy efficient than carrying it overland. The earliest boats were powered by human muscles. But between five and six thousand years ago, in China and Egypt, the first tool to exploit non-photosynthetic energy was invented: the sailing ship:

    http://sailing.info4uabout.com/2009/...t-sailing.html

    http://www.airshow.com.cn/en/zhuhai/...-12/10898.html

    Wind is created by uneven heating of the atmosphere by the sun. Solar energy is what powers Earth’s weather systems, including precipitation and the wind. By inventing the sailing boat, humans for the first time harnessed energy that did not first flow through life forms. It became a huge energy boost. Transporting goods by boat took about 1% of the energy that it did to haul overland. None of the early civilizations would have been possible without the energy savings that boat traffic provided. All of them were situated on navigable waterways, with very few partial exceptions, such as Mecca and Jerusalem, and Mecca began its rise as a trading center for elite goods when the sea routes became too dangerous because of piracy:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca#History

    That situation lasted all the way to the Industrial Revolution.

    After thousands of years of sailboats, wind was then harnessed to drive machines. The Ancient Greeks experimented with machines. The first practical windmills were used to pump water or move a mill wheel to grind grain. Wind power slowly replaced muscle power, where it was practical. The ancient Greeks also invented the first machines that took advantage of water power:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_w...co-Roman_world

    which began to have great impact all over the Old World:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermill#Western_world

    except for south of the Sahara.

    Wheeled vehicles were invented around the same time as the sailboat:

    http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/The_wheel#History

    Wheels were also a great energy innovation, greatly reducing friction, but without draft animals to pull them, wheeled vehicles did not make much sense. Some Mesoamerican cultures had wheels in children’s toys:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wheel#History

    but the wheel was never put into practical use in the Pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere, likely because they did not have draft animals of note. Llamas were mountain animals, and the Incan roads were designed for Llama traffic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_ro...em#Main_routes

    Boats, sails, wheels, beasts of burden, crops, mills – those were all innovations that increased the energy available to civilization. Metal smelting was an energy intensive activity which wiped out forests, but the benefits to civilization and humanity’s ability to wrench even more energy from the environment, and develop energy efficient technologies (such as making lumber, metal plows), were immense. All of those innovations over the millennia reached the stage where the medieval farmer was a thousand times as energy efficient as a Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherer was, as far as wrenching energy from the land, which meant that the land could host a thousand times as many people:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post547555

    That is the key dynamic of the pre-industrial early days of the human journey, with everything else of minor importance. All culture, religion, politics, and social activity was subservient to the energy dynamic. As Malthus would later note:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe

    populations expanded right at the level of taking advantage of the higher energy levels, so that no pre-industrial culture ever had true energy security - they were always subject to famine. All pre-industrial cultures were at the mercy of the weather, mostly by how much water the solar-powered hydrological cycle delivered. Also, deforestation, erosion, soil nutrient depletion, and salination affected all Bronze Age and Iron Age cultures, which hastened their collapses many times. The desertification of much of the Mediterranean and periphery,

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post543474

    including the Fertile Crescent and going all the way over to Afghanistan, was a process that took thousands of years, and would have rarely been a noticeable trend in any person’s lifetime, or even the oral histories of the peoples. That was the inevitable outcome of humanity’s “civilized” practices. When Europe began conquering the world, the places and peoples that they plundered witnessed greatly accelerated processes, which turned formerly verdant regions into semi-deserts in a person’s lifetime. It quickly happened on the islands of the East Atlantic:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#guanches

    in what became Mexico:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#_edn83

    and it happened with the British invasion of Australia. Ancient Rome had one of the most dramatic instances of deforestation and desertification.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defores...e_Roman_period

    The entire periphery of the Mediterranean was scoured for wood, continuing an ancient trend. The Classic Greeks were writing about how Greek deforestation and erosion had devastated the land. In 560 BC, a bounty was given to Greek farmers to plant olive trees, which was the only crop that could survive on land that had been eroded to the bedrock:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#olive

    Whales became extinct in the Mediterranean during the Roman Empire era:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

    Whales were another energy boon, for peoples with the technology to extract it. When Europeans developed the technology needed to sail the oceans, the whale holocaust began, which lasted for several centuries before whales were rendered nearly extinct.

    The entire human journey to this time has been defined by finding ways to wring solar energy from our environment for human benefit, and the energy was almost always originally captured by photosynthesis. Our prodigious burning of fossil fuels is merely the latest phase of the effort, where we first worked our way through sunlight that was captured in the current growing season, to sunlight that was captured in the lifetimes of trees, and we are now mining the energy of sunlight that was captured many millions of years ago, and hundreds of millions of years ago in most instances.

    I have a busy day ahead of me, so signing off for now. There is a lot more to come, as I work my way to the rise of Europe.

    Best,

    Wade
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    As an addendum to my previous post…

    The issue of ancient deforestation and desertification is a hot topic today. I see it as similar to the controversies over the megafaunal extinctions. I see a lot of the human ego in the controversies, which I suppose is to be expected. One point of my narrative that goes back to the beginnings of life on Earth is to show the dynamic nature of life on Earth, and life’s interaction with the physical systems. Microscopic life removed the iron from the oceans, oxygenated the atmosphere, and may have wiped out the oxygen-created ozone layer during events that created the Canfield Oceans.

    When plants migrated to land, they were the pioneers of an invasion from the oceans, but that invasion greatly increased Earth’s biomass, especially the biomass that sustains that smart ape called homo sapiens. Plant roots stabilized riverbanks, leading to what we call rivers today. Tree tops created a boundary layer between the atmosphere and the ground that created the environment necessary for land-based life to thrive and evolve. Life made Earth friendlier to life, while there were periodic “revenge of the microbe” events that wiped out most life in the mass extinction events.

    The rise of humans meant the ability to alter Earth’s physical and ecological systems in ways that no other life form ever had. In one of the earliest writings known, the Epic of Gilgamesh, who was one of the early kings of Uruk, he declares war on the cedar forest:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of...esh#Tablet_two

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of...sh#Tablet_five

    killing the forest guardian and commencing to rape the cedars. The flood story from the Bible almost certainly derives from the Epic of Gilgamesh:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of...nship_to_Bible

    John Perlin wrote in his A Forest Journey:

    “The writers of the Epic of Gilgamesh knew that once civilization gained access to the forests trees would be vulnerable. They also knew that droughts naturally follow deforestation, and so ended the tale, lamenting the soon-to-be-sorry state of Mesopotamia, as well as the many other civilizations bent on destroying their forests. Thus, the epic transcends time, foreshadowing events to come. Gilgamesh’s war against the forests has been repeated for generations in every corner of the globe in order to supply building and fuel stocks needed for each civilization’s continued material growth.”

    Perlin then recounted the deforestation orgy that succeeded Gilgamesh’s time, more than four thousand years ago, as the Mesopotamian city-states built their civilizations. Lagash, Uruk, Ur and others lavishly deforested the region,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruk

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagash

    and even imported wood from Turkey, the Arabian Peninsula and India, and the region's powers had wars over who could control and plunder the swifly declining forests, and controlling the "log lanes" of the Tigris, Euphrates, and Karun rivers was of paramount importance. All of that upland deforestation began to salinate the fields of Mesopotamia. That led to the decline and abandonment of all of those lower Mesopotamian cities. Wheat cultivation was abandoned for the more salt resistant barley, and the process kept moving northward, and southern cities declined and were eventually abandoned, and today are in deserts. The mountains that supplied Akkad were named for the useful trees on each mountain. The siltation from the upland deforestation was obvious to the rulers of the day, and in the Third Dynasy of Ur, dredging the silt from the fast-filling canals and harbors was a high priority. The siltation from that “progress” rendered the first city, Eridu:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

    originally a seashore community near the mouth of the Euphrates on the Persian Gulf, a deserted ruin (where scholars think that the Tower of Babel may have been built). Eridu today is nearly a hundred miles from the Persian Gulf (Ur was also once on the Persian Gulf, but is about 150 miles inland now). In the Near East, many settlements and cities that were founded on coastlines are far inland, from all of that upland deforestation and resultant siltation. Pella was a seaside community in Ancient Greece:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella

    that now sits about thirty miles from the Mediterranean. The ancient city of Troy was discovered under about thirty feet of silt.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy

    All over that part of the world the dynamic was repeated. I clearly recall my 1974 tour of the Greek isles, and seeing many isles that were barren rock. They weren’t always that way. That deforestation and siltation also had climactic effects, although their extent can be debated, but ancient cities that are in deserts and semi-deserts today, where we can read contemporary accounts of the robust deforestation and gradual environmental demise, should give every person who graduated from the Rush Limbaugh School of Environmentalism reason to pause.

    We are living with the stark reminders of how ancient and recent civilizations destroyed themselves, and the means to do it today are greater than they were before. My grandparents were driven from their home by a human-created environmental catastrophe:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

    that happened only a few generations after the whites invaded. We are on the brink of scenarios that make those disasters look like gentle warm-ups. FE can make all of those looming threats disappear almost overnight, and it is truly surreal to see how almost everybody who hears of FE denies it, and the most vociferous deniers are those who say that they are trying to avoid the meltdown:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#reactions

    with environmentalists literally treating FE as the enemy:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose...ironmentalists

    All of my fellow travelers found that out the hard way, and it was hard to believe at first, but it is all too true, I am sorry to say.

    Time to go to work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Briefly, before I go to bed, a post on some Americana. There has never been a working class press in the USA, as Britain once had. There is very little “left” in the USA, but the so-called left in the USA is largely a bunch of imperialists who pretend they are left, as they defend gay and abortion rights, while millions die under the imperial boot. Ed Herman called them the Cruise Missile Left (“CML”):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/links.htm#herman

    The CML cheered the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, invoking all manner of disgusting and false rationale. There was virtually no principled stand to be found in the American media in leading up to the invasions.

    Uncle Noam has been laying it bare for many years:

    http://www.fpif.org/articles/chomsky_on_world_ownership

    but it is hard to find him in the American press. The documentary on his life, Manufacturing Consent, is the most popular documentary in Canadian history, and it has yet to play on an American TV station.

    I bring this up because this week I read some investigative journalism pieces in Rolling Stone. Damn, it is a music magazine, but it is one of the few publications in the USA that even pretends to do investigative journalism. They did a couple of pieces on Mitt Romney and his corporate raider days, as he tries to become a raider of the public’s money in his run for the White House.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...k=mostpopular1

    and there are the standard, lame capitalist responses:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...omney-20120905

    Tiabbi’s article is timely, but just shows the business as usual nature of the Republican Party. It is either religious fanatics or rapacious capitalists, with the paleoconservatives nowhere in sight, except for the sporadic Ron Paul sighting.

    The other investigative article was on the “Cleveland Five,”

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...bi-s-cleveland

    and how the FBI is manufacturing “terrorists.” I saw provocateurs effortlessly manipulate genius technical professionals with transparently dishonest plays:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post305681

    during my days with Dennis, and those Occupy Cleveland “anarchists” were like lambs to the slaughter, and their stupidity got to tar the Occupy movement. I encountered those anarchist adolescents during my marching days, and they are the weak links that are exploited by FBI entrapment operations, etc. That is why I am staying far clear of all “all comers” efforts in my work. The Occupy movement draws a big bulls-eye on its forehead, and there will always be plenty of the deluded who will sign on and become the weak links where it can be torn down.

    But the sorry state of the American media is that if you want to read any investigative journalism, you are reduced to reading music magazines, or if anybody calls out people like Mitt Romney, it ends up being comedians like Jon Stewart. No criticism of note or worth comes from the places that it should. Just a sign of the times, and what grim times they are.

    Going to bed now.

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    Wade,

    Cheer up It is not so dark out there. It is true msm is complicit of perpetuating outright lies to manipulate people. But despite this and thanks to the internet creating a state of global consciousness the truth slowly leaks into the msm reality. When i chat with my peers in Poland and say something "weird" seldom i receive a telling silence or someone tapping his forehead. They even encurage me to tell more or tell "weird" things themselves. I don't know if it is law of attraction that bring likeminded people into my path or sign of the times changing. But it amazes me every day
    Best wishes and free energy to all
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    Hi Robert:

    Outside of the empire’s orbit, I am sure that the “crazy” stuff is not as “out there,” but here in the heart of the empire, it is a different story. Not long ago, somebody made a statement in a social setting at work where they said that they knew about my public work, and that it was fascinating. Well, all of those who heard that little speech kind of non-reacted, and I have not talked with any of them about it since, and nobody wants to. Some close to me at my work know a little about it, but it is not something that I talk about at work, except for an incident over this summer, where I was approached at a social function by somebody who worked at the same company with me for nearly ten years, and he introduced himself and then almost immediately began to talk politics with me. Retail politics in the USA is largely just parroting the propaganda, and I listened for a minute, and then just told him a little about my experiences. No theory, no rumors, but just the facts of what I have lived through and those in my circle. After a few minutes, he said that if anything I was saying was true, then America was full of naïve chumps. I did not respond to that, but just kept stating a few more facts. The guy then made an excuse, hurriedly left, and has actively avoided me ever since. I had not done that in many years, but was doing a little testing of the waters. Not much has changed over the years on that score.

    I have a long week ahead of me, will be gone the next week, and then have a long six weeks after that, so my progress on this human journey thread will be slow. However, this has been a great exercise for me. I have never done this before, where I sketch out an essay before I write it. Writing this is showing me where I need to do a little more work, is giving me new ideas, and when I finish this series of posts, it will be the outline for my upcoming essay, and I can tell that it will be a book-length essay.

    I hope that readers of this sketch will think about the subject matter. I not only find it all fascinating, but there is a purpose to it. If people do the work, they will begin to develop a comprehensive perspective of the journey of life on Earth, and particularly the human journey, the central importance of energy, and the mind-boggling potential of free energy will become embedded in their awareness to such a degree that they will never stop thinking about it. That is the entire purpose of what I am doing here. If enough people can develop that energy-centric, comprehensive awareness, and can keep their eye on the ball, then that choir will be on its way to forming. But, at the root we need to have a loving awareness. If people are not approaching the situation from a full heart, they can easily end up like the Cleveland Five and friends:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...bi-s-cleveland

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...k=mostpopular2

    Godzilla and his minions make the FBI, CIA, NSA and others look like children. The provocateurs and establishment goons that I encountered were usually good at what they did; they were true professionals. People thinking and acting like victims are the weak links in efforts like this one that I am trying to launch, and they will be exploited when the time is right. That is why conspiracists and structuralists do have not have the right stuff to pursue this, because they obsess about the bad ol’ elites, when they are merely a symptom, not a cause:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

    That is thinking like a victim. As I have repeatedly stated, not many are going to be able to take this walk, but it won’t take many, either. Looking for those needles…

    OK, back to the human journey. As you can tell, I am not discussing sub-Saharan Africa, China, Southeast Asia, Australia, or the New World much. I have, here and there, but as far as energy and the human journey goes, the “progress” really began in the Fertile Crescent, and while China led the way at times in its technological prowess, it was not really much of a different story than what we had in the Middle and Near East, and that great rise to world domination that was centered in Western Europe. That is the trail of how today’s industrial world came to be, and how I ended up living in Seattle.

    The Chinese story, or the Australian story, or the story of Bantu expansion in Africa, or how maize spread from New England to Chile, are all worthy tales, but from an energetic perspective, they were all variations on a theme. There really weren’t too many significant variations on the themes of pre-industrial peoples, or Stone Age peoples. If they were hunter-gatherers, they had similar social organization, similar subsistence technologies and techniques. They all fought each other with their hunting implements, and males did the hunting while women gathered if possible and tended the hearth while raising the children. Because of how humans are built and wired, there really is not much variation when humans are in similar economic dynamics, which, as always, is rooted in the available energy.

    If people domesticated plants and animals, a different social organization developed, and valuable possessions made their appearance, and stored food was the most important. Men fought and plotted their way to the top of the new hierarchies, founded or corrupted religions that made themselves divine representatives of the cosmos, and they all had their harems. When people began to smelt metals, their ability to alter the land grew by an order of magnitude, as felling trees and tearing the Earth, partly to grow crops better, became easier. With smelting metals and the ability to wrest more energy from the earth increased, civilizations could expand, and imperial dynamics appeared where the economies allowed it. But such activities always carried the seeds of their own destruction, because such activities wrecked the ecosystems and the soils. All smelting civilizations eventually wrecked their means of subsistence, and the civilizations collapsed. The lands recovered in the wake of the collapse, but they were damaged, as soils washed to the sea, the complex of life forms was altered, and such activities led to desertification often enough.

    The only exceptions to that dynamic are some Stone Age cultures, but they virtually all had the dubious distinction of being descended from peoples who exterminated the big animals. But the way that the Amazonian peoples terraformed thousands of square miles of land and created super-soils, and turned the Amazon into a big garden, or how the Plains Indians kept the plains burned so they would support hunt-able animals, or how the Eastern Woodlands peoples performed similar maintenance to encourage hunting, is worth studying, and there are lessons to be learned there. I will allow that the peoples of the New World seemed more spiritually advanced than those who invaded them, but how much of that was due to the political-economy of Stone Age peoples? Women’s status universally declined with the advent of urban civilization, and that was also evident with the Aztec and Incan civilizations, as well as their predecessor civilizations. So, while the Iroquois had a balance of power between the sexes that the West is still trying to achieve, how much of that was due to the political-economy of village life in the Stone Age? I think that it had plenty to do with it.

    So, while there are lessons to be learned from the so-called primitive peoples, the fact is that today’s increasingly-global civilization is defined by its energy usage:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post546922

    as it always has been. If we go back to pre-industrial civilization, or hunter-gatherer, we have several billion excess people that we need to get rid of, as Heinberg and friends state:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#austerity

    The small-ball “solutions” that I see Heinberg and environmentalists put forth, such as windmills, are ludicrous in the face of FE. Believe me, even if windmills and direct solar could somehow prevent the need for several billion people to meet their makers before long, you do not want to live in that world. I see the mentalities of the Heinbergs, environmentalists, and assorted neo-Malthusians as being addicted to scarcity. You really have to see how deeply they have their heads buried into the sand on the FE issue to understand:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#misinformation

    At its root, they live in fear, and they don’t want to even imagine that abundance is possible. Is that due to memories of melting down Atlantis? I can’t say, but I do know that with FE can come something that looks a lot like heaven on Earth:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

    I have encountered people who have visited realities like this one:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    people who were highly accomplished psychonauts, and I have no doubt that they were visiting real places, and places where humanity can go, if enough of us we can get our hearts whole and align our heads with it. That is no easy feat, not in a world of scarcity and fear. But everybody who is reading this is a beneficiary of the energy levels that powered the Industrial Revolution, and for some of us, we can get glimpses of what abundance can look like. Because of my adventures and the experience of those close to me, I know that FE technology has been around for a long time, as well as antigravity and other mind-boggling technologies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    But Godzilla sits on his Golden Hoard, and we do not get any, not while we live in fear, with our minds trapped by our scarcity-based conditioning. I am looking for the tiny fraction of humanity that can wake up to these realities before somebody delivers FE to their homes. I know that there are not many of them, but I keep looking. I found a few at Avalon, and I will seek more in the future, and we will see how it goes.

    Off to work now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    In a world of scarcity, however, something that scarce became the focus of more obsessions over the millennia than for any other substances. Just yesterday, I was watching an economic debate:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/schiff...vs-anti-matter

    where gold was called real money, as opposed to paper money. Money is only accounting, not reality. Unless the money has value other than accounting use, it is merely a symbol, with no intrinsic value. Even today, the industrial uses of gold and silver are not major. Two-thirds of silver production today (which is an infinitesimal fraction of metal mining) goes into industrial use, but only about 10% of gold production makes its way into industry, primarily in electronics. The pharaohs did not have electronics.

    The gold situation is one of earliest examples of ideology trumping reality. Gold and silver were worthless metals, but people killed each other over them, millions were worked to death mining them, and even today, they hold an exalted status, even called the only “real” money. They are as real as paper is. About the only difference is that paper is easier to produce. Any discussion of real economics must dismiss “precious” metals as of very minor economic importance, whose value is chiefly due to how rare they are, not how useful they are. But in almost every “economic” discussion I have ever seen, the focus is on money, which is merely a symbol of reality, not the real thing.

    Gold and silver formed the early basis for what is known as the financial economy, where a layer of abstraction was laid over the real economy. And if people would accept the symbol as reality, then the manipulation of the symbol could manipulate reality, at least in the minds of the deceived. The abstraction of reality has reached new levels in the modern economy, where money is no longer based on something as useless but rare as “precious” metals, but on slick accounting games, where the manipulators can virtually make it up as they go.

    The reason why everybody focuses on the symbol of the economy and not the economy itself is because money is how we eat, put roofs over our heads, and buy our energy. But that only has a microeconomic meaning, and really does not mean much in the big picture. Economists have also lost sight of the real economy, homogenizing everything with market prices and producing their misleading analyses, one of which I recently presented:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post552107

    Physical scientists often call economics a wannabee science. If you ever read technical economic literature, it is all advanced math, and it is almost completely divorced from reality. Almost no prominent economists could see the crash of 2008-2009 coming, but it was easy to see for those with their eyes open.


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    The "gold and silver is REAL money" belief is one I adopted back when I listened more to Libertarian/Austrian Economist arguments, and eventually discarded.

    A system of "100% free market hard money banking" as many Austrian Economists argue for has never existed in reality, and thus has no realistic positive examples to base massive country wide policy changes on. In addition, the actual interest bearing gold standards that HAVE existed throughout history went through many periods of depressions and recessions, and thus aren't nearly as stable as the goldbug types portray them as.

    In the long run money is a chain no matter what form it appears in, but I do believe it would be better on a temporary, transitional basis if the authority to print money in the US was returned directly to Congress and made fully transparent, thus allowing for more voter oversight. In addition, usury should be fully abolished. The money could then be backed by the actual available labor, resources and potential for scientific innovation, thus allowing for the issuance of debt-free/interest-free money to fund much needed infrastructure changes without causing immediate inflation.

    Obviously it's not a perfect fix, and doesn't directly address FE, but given that the international banking system is one of Godzilla's major control mechanisms, it could certainly help move things along.
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    t would be better on a temporary, transitional basis if the authority to print money in the US was returned directly to Congress and made fully transparent,
    For that to work, it would require that Congress was transparent. It's not.

    I suspect that the problem is not so much that the power to print money is in the banksters hands instead of the governments hands, but rather that both the banksters and the government are in the hands of less obvious powers, aka Godzilla. The scandalous mismanagement of our economic, financial and monetary systems that we observe is just one symptom of this grand theft of life, humanity and civilization on this planet.

    Both the debt based currency and scarcity based energy policy imposed on us are manifestations of this theft. Healing the planet, our civilization, our monetary system, and our energy economics and physics are all entwined with removing the grip that Godzilla has on us.

    Realizing the possibilities if energy were no longer controlled and scarce, as Wade is doing, is one key element of this. One climbs mountains by first looking up, seeing the peak through the clouds, and then setting forth, step by step, to reach that peak.
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    ...If people do the work, they will begin to develop a comprehensive perspective of the journey of life on Earth, and particularly the human journey, the central importance of energy, and the mind-boggling potential of free energy will become embedded in their awareness to such a degree that they will never stop thinking about it...
    What you said there Wade, really struck a chord. I can't remember exactly when I started thinking about free-energy but I know that Brian O'Leary's Camelot interview in 2009 was a great inspiration. Like so many of us here, I haven't been able to stop thinking about free-energy for the longest-time. It's as if it isn't merely food for thought, but the thought of it is food in itself. Food for the soul. Free energy thoughts are nourishing thoughts, generating their own kind of light, filled with solutions, like seeds of light for a fundamentally more beautiful shared experience.

    I am not really sure if I get it. Sometimes I have this feeling, of what it feels like to spark the most effective kind of flame; one that shines in resonance with all those others lit within people's hearts and minds around the globe. An emanation infused with all the hopes and fears, frustrations and cures within the free-energy domain, brought together and transformed into one flame, one energetic imprint that pulses in the space of a moment, as if it contains the whole of our history and the visions of our most luminous future. A creative flame that already knows how it feels for our problems to be solved by new energy solutions, and can grasp the compassionate feeling of relief that comes with them. I have moments where I feel this. Moments that feel timeless. I'm very grateful for them.

    Reading Brian O'Leary's The Energy Solution Revolution, I was really struck by the passion, vision and hard-earned experience that permeate the text. A beautiful mission statement; a genuinely heart-felt invitation for others to join this new group, growing ourselves into solution seekers and emboldened torch-bearers. A brave advocate of harmony and a holistic thinker. There is an ocean of important writing out there (including your website Wade), and my read-speed is the equivalent of a small, hand-carved canoe. When I first bought the book it sat on my desk, being saved up, like a physical souvenir of the experience of hearing O 'Leary in interviews. But on eventually reading it, I felt like I was truly privileged to be in the company of his brightest dream.

    The many free-energy advocate 'groups' in the world, and the way in which they intersect and sometimes clash, feel to me like a macrocosmic reflection of one fragmented human mind, struggling to balance its inner contradictions and integrate all the parts of itself that jostle for dominance. As O'Leary elaborates on (see below) this process of integration is key to moving forward both in our own worlds and as a collective. Mainstream culture seems rife with examples of how we fragment ourselves, pitting spirituality against science, science against art, political left against right etc. Advertising and Marketing seem to fragment aspects of our personality in order to create a singular essence that speaks strongly enough to one part of us in the hope that part will doubt itself, and quiver in need of bolstering when isolated before our gaze. It reminds me of something the artist Tori Amos said in an interview... "We're not taught to be whole. Why? I'll tell you why. We would be powerful, and they can't have us being powerful. You see I'm not defining they. It's not important who they is. They're nameless and they're faceless. But it's a force, it's an energy force, and I believe this." Like the age-old, 'Machiavellian' strategy of an invasive enemy: Divide and Conquer.

    In The Energy Solution Revolution:
    On pages 159-161 O' Leary describes 4 "cultures":
    Truth-Seekers (AKA Conspiracy Theorists), Deep Ecologists (AKA Doomsayers), Consciousness-oriented 'generalists' (Spiritualists, New Scientists...), and Progressive Pragmatists.
    The first lines on page 163 read:
    "We need a greater blend of cultures that could lead to a higher degree of sentience to embrace free energy."
    Then in the last paragraph he writes:
    "It would seem that our next step might be to trust more the knowledge and wisdom of those of us who have toiled for decades on some of these larger questions, to listen more to those of us who have a long track record and motivation to share the rich expertise that can come from each culture, and to get beyond the frustration some of us may have felt at times about the duality between the fact that while we are equal as persons, some of us know more about some things than others. That would be the next step, I believe, and the foundation of trust is an important first step."

    It's as if we must integrate all these "cultures" within, these aspects of ourselves (something I personally have to be mindful of daily) and then integrate the aspect or aspects we most represent as an individual with those other aspects most embodied by others. Easier said than done, but more than possible. We are, in so many ways, like the million scattered pieces of a broken mould. It's as if the Zero-Point field represents that fusion, that original unity we seek. Sometimes I think that perhaps in all our struggles to integrate the various parts of ourselves, the biggest secret is that the blueprint, the thought-form that expresses unity, is distractingly simple to grasp in a world filled with complication.

    On Page 216, paragraph 2, O'Leary quotes a portion from his work Miracle in the Void, referring to the Zero-Point Field and articulating wonderfully the integration of the sentient mystical with the scientific approaches:
    "When we begin to resonate with the majestic and ubiquitous reservoir of pre-energy and pre-matter in the zero-point field, we will all become healers, clairvoyants, and magicians. We can at last have peace, harmony, love and joy. Science is telling us that clearly, based on irrefutable experimental, theoretical and personal evidence. I invite you to trust the process and walk with me through the visible into the invisible."
    [ There are some other interesting references to the mystical aspect of the ZPF in the GFC's 70% Plan, which was linked to on the thread by another member a while back, and which also mentions O 'Leary. I wandered through its text not long ago, but perhaps I'll save my ponderings on it for another post. ]

    Quote Post 2255, Wade Frazier: "...(I) was approached by somebody who worked at the same company... [portion missing] ...he said that if anything I was saying was true, then America was full of naïve chumps..."
    In his 'Universal appeal to Mr.Obama' on page 239, paragraph 2, O' Leary writes:
    "Do you truly know the depth of the crisis and the breadth of opportunities that lay outside the box of conventional thinking? I must admit that during my days of relative fame, I was largely oblivious of the deeper issues before us. The spotlight itself has a way of distorting our perceptions of reality."
    This really struck a chord when I read this. How many times have I heard someone say, 'Well if Conspiracies/UFOs/Free-Energy were real how come the President/Prime Minister doesn't know about it?'
    Aside from the (apparently) dozens of levels of Top Secret above the Presidential level of clearance, and the fact that government leaders are not happily poised to share all incoming gems of revelatory insider information with the general populace, it often doesn't occur to people that the very ambition and pressure to compromise that accompany a political career (more intensely the higher someone climbs) increasingly blind them to the obvious; to the ability to consider basic information without the ego distorting or censoring the simplest truths. The safeguarding of position/status, and the material rewards of power, money and recognition seem sadly to be a distraction for inventors (going by what I've read here) and politicians alike. It reminds me of something a Peruvian Medicine Woman once said: "You can accomplish anything, as long as you are willing to let others take credit for it." That one fills me with a warm laughter. Within its medicinal wisdom, all things seem possible. But its simple truth pushes against so many of the symbols and proofs of success we are programmed to function through. I believe though that it is a wonderful and humbling truth that flings open the doors of possibility. And it makes me think of certain free-energy casualties who were pure of heart, and persisted for all of us; paving the way for future solution-seekers, regardless of how thankless a task it seemed.

    Another lengthy post. Thank you, to all of you here, for your understanding. It really means a lot to me to have somewhere to help process some of what I think and feel about this topic.

    ( P.S. The Peruvian Shaman was Dona Laura, quoted in Shaman, Healer, Sage by Alberto Villoldo Ph.D, Bantam Press, 2001, Pg.37)

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    One climbs mountains by first looking up, seeing the peak through the clouds, and then setting forth, step by step, to reach that peak.
    Yes Paul. And over the past 3 weeks, I've realized something, triggered by AWP's post on my abundance thread ....

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post547930

    and reinforced by Wade's recent writings. Namely that we, as a whole need to start doing something which we've long forgotten - to think beyond our own lifetimes. I have for a long time held my own private vision of heaven on Earth, and have slowly worked toward it, but looking at the mess we're in now, I can see that heaven on Earth for ALL is a vision that we need to start focussing on, with the full awareness that it probably won't materialize while any of us are here (judging by where we are now, the trajectory we're on, and the momentum we have). So that's what I do on a daily basis, envisage the world as a place of true abundance for everyone.

    This has got me thinking .... Could collective focus be a force, not necessarily the only one, which drives evolution ? Do our genes mutate, not by chance, but by a collective will ? (There is evidence which is highly suggestive of this, pretty much in line with Sheldrake's theory of morphogenic fields.) Could our own aspirations for the future be the "intelligent design" we want to believe in but which science dismisses ? If so, then we truly are the creators of our future reality.

    Thanks everyone.

    WOW - There's a synchronicity, AWP posting at the same time as me !!!
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    Hi Enishi:

    Thanks. Gold and silver, in the financial system framework, are just forms of accounting, and the reason they were used as money is because they are hard to counterfeit. But that just led to gold rushes (genocidal gold rushes, if you could enslave a conquered population to dig it for you) and conquering your neighbors to steal the gold they already mined. On a macroeconomic basis, the lust for gold is one of the most mindless motivations on Earth:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#biggest

    I am an economics professional, and spent part of my professional life seeing through the game, and it is a dirty game, for sure. I tend to not focus on the money and banking system because it is only accounting, not reality. The problem is that money and banking represents the financial (AKA symbolic) economy, but it is the “economy” that everybody is familiar with, and the most infantile, mindless, and sickening behavior can come out when the money issue comes up (so it is, in a world of scarcity), which is partly why every FE effort I ever saw or was a part of was doomed. The financial economy is the tail, not the dog, and a focus on the dog will get the job done. If those so-called monetary activists devoted most of their time and energy to the real economy and real solutions, rather than trying to fix the accounting system (designing and running accounting systems is what I do for a living), I could get with their program, but the level of discussion that I see in alternative monetary discussions is pretty low, and it always attracts the egocentric and the scientifically-illiterate. Playing the money game is not really an answer. I am trying to get people focused on the answer, and stay away from the rabbit holes that so many disappear into. Yes, solutions that the Austrians advocate make some simplifying assumptions, let us say. The accounting system is definitely broken, but accounting systems are only important in a world of scarcity.

    That aside, sure, the financial system should be transparent but it isn’t, and it is greatly manipulated, and not just by Godzilla. I liken the situation to a football game. They don’t really know how to play football, but they are great at rigging the scoreboard, and if people can be made to think that the scoreboard is the game, then the manipulators can always win. As with all other areas like this, it comes down to personal integrity. If what I am doing ever comes down to an exchange of money, it will be completely transparent; everybody will be able to see where the money comes from and where it goes. No secrecy, no anonymity. We have to be the change we want to see. That is why the conversation that I plan to eventually mount will not have anonymous participants. Everybody will have a real name and face. My work is about the real world and real people.

    Almost every “economic” activist is trying to “fix” the symbolic economy, not the real one. Playing with symbols is easy. And even those who are trying to fix the real economy are proposing small-ball solutions or getting rid of six billion “excess” humans. I am trying to help fix the real economy, for all time, in a way that makes the symbolic economy meaningless and ends Godzilla’s reign, and he knows exactly what I am talking about, and he is listening, believe me (although probably with half an ear at best – I am down the “threat” scale a ways, I hope!). Fix the real economy, and the symbolic economy takes care of itself, but what may be the primary thrust of my work is helping people see through the illusions of their scarcity-based conditioning. Not many can do that. Not many even want to try, and instead prefer comforting fictions. I am looking for reality junkies.

    Hi Paul:

    I saw your post after writing the above, and we are singing the same song. Thanks for your astute perception. Yes, Congress is beholden to interests that have nothing to do with the public welfare, and Washington D.C. is anything but transparent. I try to ignore D.C. as much as I can. These issues are all related. I believe that some key banksters are in fact Godzilla’s minions, but it is likely that none of them are names we know, such as Bernanke, Geithner, Greenspan, etc. Those boys play their dirty games, but they are lower on the food chain than Godzilla and his minions are, and may not even aware of Godzilla’s existence themselves.

    Best,

    Wade

    P.S. I’ll get to the other posts soon.
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