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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    "The Machine" never has, does not, and never will, be used to the detriment of it's own well being. Jesse would be chewed up and spit out just like he was in Minnesota, and just like we saw with Ron Paul much more recently. Not trying to be all dour and s**t, but that's just how it goes.

    It's like the old getting the monkey distracted vith various bright shiny objects, when the one thing the controllers actually tremble in fear over, is the true Spirit that resides within each of us.

    A Ventura run at the Presidency would be just another bright shiny object, and a fun one at that!
    So in effect, what you are really saying Fred is...

    Its (ALL-OVER) Red Rover, the American people have already lost and there is (NO-WAY OUT) of this mess...

    On the periphery that maybe the case, but 'Deep Down' that's a little bit too 'Pessimistic' and you don't really mean that - Do You Fred...

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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)

    So in effect, what you are really saying Fred is...

    Its (ALL-OVER) Red Rover, the American people have already lost and there is (NO-WAY OUT) of this mess...

    On the periphery that maybe the case, but 'Deep Down' that's a little bit too 'Pessimistic' and you don't really mean that - Do You Fred...
    Jack, how bout I highlight the one sentence I said that really mattered. You should know me better than that by now.

    Quote It's like the old getting the monkey distracted vith various bright shiny
    objects, when the one thing the controllers actually tremble in fear over, is
    the true Spirit that resides within each of us.
    Cheers Mate,
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

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    Not seen much of the video, but did not realise that it was Piers Morgan until seeing it. One of the UK's worst exports to US. He is just a showbiz icon, not really someone that should be involved in serious topics like that if you want a proper objective discussion, stars in their eyes and plenty of money in their pocket, so they don't really care, will dismiss anything, and return back to celebrity BS that they call reality.

    Its good Ventura go on there and the audience are not as dazzled or misled as P.Morgan was, though he needs a better platform which is not going to be controlled as much by producers, who only to fit their shows into the typical thinking, but he'll not likely get such an opportunity, no network or channel would really dare produce a show that questions too much official accounts or raises questions for the public.

    Has any show on US tv, or anywhere, actually paid genuine interest into the possible truths of 9/11, to any extent, on a widely available channel/network?
    Yep Piers Morgan real name is...

    Side-Show Bob (A.K.A - ASS-CLOWN)


    Feed Piers the $$$Dollars & He's Anyone's (MOUTHPIECE)...

    It just goes to show, just how deperate the PTW are for SPINMIESTER'S...

    His idea of pre-interview preparation is to Provoke & Prepare his CoIntelPro downgrade of anyone who dares to (Tell-the-TRUTH) like Jesse...

    Does anyone 'Honestly' in the US take this guy seriously...

    PS - The 'Ultimate-Insult' to the (1776'ers)...

    An 'Englishman' telling the Americans how to 'Think'..!!!!!!

    On the 'Contrary' jackovesk, nothing has really changed (Has It)...
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    that brit gentleman doesn't like americans or american ways. it's a shame he is on american TV.
    Gentlemen? Gentlemen tell the truth, no precedent for Piers ever doing that. And Brit no more we've exported (deported) him.

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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Just imagine how much more 'Truth & Knowledge' the general public would have gained by the time the 2016 US Presidential Election rolls around...

    It will an UNSTOPPABLE FORCE of real Grassroot support that WILL NOT be able to be Controlled &/or Co-Opted by the PTW/MSM..!

    The only problem is of just how much more DAMAGE the PTW can inflict upon us between now & then to counteract the groundswell of people Waking-Up..?

    PS - In reality even if the PTW start their 'Human-Culling' Eugenics Program, that will force the public to 'Wake-Up' even quicker..!

    The PTW/NWO, no matter any which way you look at it are...



    Long live the Republic - The Constitution & 2nd Amendment...
    @ jackovesk,

    It's funny you mention this because I had a discussion with my parents last night about the same topic.

    I have provided evidence of an "alternative (more accurate) reality" to family members, friends, neighbors, coworkers, and now even strangers (just like you do) over the past several years. I only ever provide info, and I never try to convince anyone. Now some of those individuals have developed a general understanding of what's going on, but still so many have their heads buried in the sand.

    I explained to my parents that so few people are aware of and react to the atrocities in our world because they have not had direct experience. Although the cabal has been enacting a NWO for at least many decades now, they still have yet to complete it. So, at some point they're going to have to make a strong push to do so.

    When there's a TSA agent ready to grope everyone who wishes to enter a mall or movie theater, when every person has to stop at a checkpoint on the way to work, when everyone, besides the cabal, faces the prospective of a poverty level salary, when every school district requires an RFID chip for each student, etc... then perhaps the masses will awaken as we have. Of course there is also the possibility of major natural or man-made disasters, CMEs that knock out the power grid, or other phenomena that will force people to change the way they live and what they focus on. Plus there are several things going on behind the scenes, that most people are not privy to, that may or may not be effective.

    The transition may not be as smooth as everyone would like, but if these type of events occur, then I believe it will be enough to spark the awareness of the masses. Once enough of humanity is "awake", then a true positive paradigm shift can ensue. One step would be for the citizens of the USA to support and vote for someone like Jesse Ventura. In time, it would be nice if humanity can get past the pyramidal hierarchical structure and even the need for a leader.
    You know, a Simple Human, I lived in Turkey from 99 to 2002 a good 6-8 months per year. Every shopping center I would go to, every seabus I would take, I had to pass through metal detector AND be searched (purse, bags, sometimes pockets, but no groping). Everyone submitted to it not saying a word because there were real (as opposed to fake-often US) terrorist threats because of the war with Kurds in the eastern part of the country. If parking with a car, it would be checked underneath with a miror and bombs detectors.

    40% of the population were at the poverty level salaries (if compared with US) and children in daycare or in private schools from the remaining 60% would not be RFID (it did not exist then) but would be closely watch and driven in private well equiped vans for fright of kidnap for ransom.

    Yet, everybody did whatever they had to do and nobody revolted. It may take more than that to have people wake up.
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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

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    You know, a Simple Human, I lived in Turkey from 99 to 2002 a good 6-8 months per year. Every shopping center I would go to, every seabus I would take, I had to pass through metal detector AND be searched (purse, bags, sometimes pockets, but no groping). Everyone submitted to it not saying a word because there were real (as opposed to fake-often US) terrorist threats because of the war with Kurds in the eastern part of the country. If parking with a car, it would be checked underneath with a miror and bombs detectors.

    40% of the population were at the poverty level salaries (if compared with US) and children in daycare or in private schools from the remaining 60% would not be RFID (it did not exist then) but would be closely watch and driven in private well equiped vans for fright of kidnap for ransom.

    Yet, everybody did whatever they had to do and nobody revolted. It may take more than that to have people wake up.
    @ Flash,

    Thank you for your insight. You may very well be right. The premise of my post is merely supposition on my part. I neither deal in prognostication, nor offer any guarantees.

    It has been my experience that humans generally take to causes that directly affect them. It is now ten years since you lived in Turkey. Alternative information has become much more publicly available around the world; hence, more individuals are becoming "aware" of an alternative reality than the one they have been accustomed to. There are even mainstream programs covering such topics like Ancient Aliens, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, and Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman.

    It has also been my experience, as a citizen of the USA my entire life, that the majority of USA citizens enjoy a relatively comfortable lifestyle with many amenities. Those considered middle class here could live like kings in some other countries. If these individuals were to be suddenly stripped of their comfortable lifestyle, then they'd certainly take notice.

    Now not everyone who has been informed of alternative information believes it or acts upon it. If however these individuals witness the NWO agenda rolled out in front of their own eyes and it directly affects them, perhaps they will be inclined to stand up and take their power back. That is essentially the premise to my original post.

    Perhaps, as you suggest, it may take much more than that for humanity to "wake up" and take action, and if that's the case, well...

    I've posited the following rhetorical questions previously on several other threads:

    Is existence on this planet so important to me that I am willing to give up my sovereignty, have my possessions taken from me, be forcefully removed from my home, watch my loved ones be physically, mentally, or emotionally abused, become enslaved by an uncompassionate group of sociopaths, be monitored against my will 24/7, and/or be frequently tortured, potentially to death?

    or

    Is my freedom so important to me that I am willing to positively change myself, sacrifice my time, energy, and desires by helping others, assist my family, neighbors, and local community if need be, protect another at the risk of losing my own life, lie, cheat, steal, kill, and/or die for it?

    I've already made my decision. Have you?

    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry (March 23, 1775), A.S.H. (April 5, 2012)

    Refusing to live in fear and contemplating noncompliance,

    A.S.H.
    I am A Simple Human being.

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    Default Re: Jesse Ventura on CNN: ‘Every War Starts With a False Flag’..!

    I have posted the video of the BBC report to Piers Morgans facebook page, i wonder if it will be deleted

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    Cool Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?


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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

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    Could Jesse Be Benjamin?
    Well, their hair style is similar ... but their body shape is sure quite different .
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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    lol that's funny.

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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    Is it just me? Could well be

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    Thumbs up Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    LMAO. Awhile back I thought Alex Collier may have been a reincarnated George.Washington. He had mentioned something pertaining to his close relationship with G.W. in a previous life, in of his interviews.

    Check this Out!

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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    Who knows? But I guess overall many historical figures are alive and kickin' right here right now

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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    I am with Christian on this. I have had it shared that almost all souls who have ever lived are here now so that this is a planatary decision on whatever "this is" is ?

    I have read alot of Franklin have an old leather book of his writings to farmers -- not an almanac. Jesse has a lot of common traits too. Franklin was quite the ladies man like Cary Grant right up until his 80s.
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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    Quote LMAO. Awhile back I thought Alex Collier may have been a reincarnated G.W. He had mentioned something pertaining to his close relationship with G.W. in a previous life, in of his interviews.

    sorry dude, the reincarnation of george washington has already been identified




    here are a few more reincarnated historical figures







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    Default Re: Could Jesse Ventura be Benjamin Franklin?

    Thank you bearcow... I was just thinking about lack of verifiable content on forums lately... you've just made my day, LOL!!! Perfect!

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    Here is on Rommney

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    Default Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: Season 3



    anyone find they make the show too dramatic?

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    Default Re: Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: Season 3

    I find it very "staged". The show often doesn't feel natural, it's like everyone is reading their lines. Apparently David Icke was not impressed by Jesse when he met him. He found him very arrogant
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    Default Re: Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: Season 3

    one question why they do on Reptilian anyway? there's no hard evidence to blow the lid it up. Jesse could do a show on Suppression of Free Energy...

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