Are You 'Starseed' ? Ancient (Alien?) Soul with Temporary Amnesia? Remember Atlantis?

[deridan]

i have the very strong feeling my dad was a starseed. hee created such a strong feeling of stability and aura, that when it was gone, our tender and defended souls REELED in this world....mcuh prayers of anger flowed in my soul, the directions on which i am hopefully treading the path to becoming.

ww, don't be offended at these,
these are merely the early commentaries, which always arrive some time on the bus,
they are merely warning of the things which happen when a full trend is made,

seee perhaps we have to be as the initiated,...spiritually weak souls who rely on this , well it blows [blows dust [into ones eyes, ..being an outsider to a click, and all star seeds especially the one so virulent was there perhaps once too]],
be as the initiated in that access to strong things are only given to the strong,...these are my thoughts, i am not illuminati,i laugh at childlingsteps

[we-R-one]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
Thank you for this post, I can most certainly relate in some ways due to my own experiences, but I like to keep them to myself until I can properly assess what’s really going on. Anytime you put yourself out in public with this kind of material you have to have a clear understanding of what you speak about, and process something of substance to back up your claims. If you don’t… then you will more than likely attract ridicule due to others not having those same experiences as you. I always caution people when doing this, be creative when presenting your beliefs if you can’t readily provide proof. If I can’t authenticate, I don’t bother, why should I unless I was seeking attention? Obviously there is more to lose than to gain when doing it in this fashion. In the end all I’ll be doing is making it that much harder for those that can actually present the facts.

Peace

Here's the deal....the days of being politically correct are over for me...I'm no longer accessing that time-line. We need to be as open as possible about discussing our experiences. If fellow star seeds don't start talking, how are we ever going to know? How can we compare notes if we don't talk? Cause we all know we're not going to get the truth from the PTB, so what are we waiting for?

I cannot help if someone wants to think that by identifying one-self as a star seed, in their mind, they perceive that we think we're better than anyone else or they think we're in need of some attention. That says to me, the person who thinks that might have some insecurity issues. I do feel that star seeds are more advanced in some ways compared to others. I do not think it makes us better.....the reason we are more advanced is because we're older souls who have experience. You cannot have all souls at the same level, it wouldn't work in the environment of duality. The only way the game works is if you have people at varying levels. It's not about being superior to others because when you truly understand the big picture, we are all one in the same anyways, a worthy point to mention, but that's another whole story.

In my mind the varying levels of souls is possibly part of the real evolution process. All of us have the potential to utilize what currently is recognized as metaphysical abilities, but I believe, based on what I have observed and read, that the only reason star seeds seem to have stronger skill sets is because they are more advanced and further along in the evolution process. We are here to carve the way for those who do not "believe".

Your comments above fit the parameters of someone who thinks with a 3D mind; that being, if you can't see it, touch it, feel it, taste it, it doesn't exist. If we are to explore other realities we have to get away from this thought process as it does not apply outside the matrix, otherwise you are supporting the belief system of the very matrix you want to remove yourself from. The perfect example of something that exists, but you can't necessarily see, is energy; but you believe in it and you know it's real. Metaphysical abilities are dealing with that energy, and just because you can't see them, doesn't mean their existence isn't real. You see what I mean? When I have a telepathic experience I am utilizing something that cannot be seen and yet the experience is very real to me because I can "feel" the results. I don't have to necessarily see anything to know it's true. Now a younger soul which is less advanced would not understand that.

I have no way to prove what I can do, because most of the results happen internally. To ignore my experiences and those of others based on the fact that they don't fit into the belief system of a 3D world would be a mistake. So let me ask you....who are we waiting for to authenticate what many of us all ready know is real? Are we waiting for the thought police to tell us what is real and what is not? And who is the "chosen one" which will present the facts? If you want out of 3D this is what you have to be thinking. There is nothing to loose and everything to gain.

I'm not making fun of you, but your comments above sound like a typical stereotype response that people are use to saying and believing. This is what we need to get away from.....Your decision above states that you are still in fear mode, and you are not comfortable stepping outside of the parameters of "preconceived misconceptions", based on what the collective masses would approve of according to the laws of a 3D society. If we keep with this mind-set we will never advance. Just to be clear, there is no tone in my post or intentions of superiority. My goal is to share what I have learned with others so that we may all grow and understand together by learning from each others experiences and the Avalon forum is the appropriate place this very topic should be discussed without ridicule and judgment.

[deridan]

i was once at a stage the mediator of myself. did not chuck away any of my thoughts. saw that output behaviours were based on logic,..so for any aberances in myself i would always chase these down,..ask myself my beliefs and sort myself out.{some people would say there is a negative self and positive self, to me i was all the same and regarded with equal respect all my thoughts} (as much of my internal process in that i saw in mayan dreamspell would be mine... i.e. 'regulate universal fire of integrity'). anycase, that phase of my life ended. after some very major crisis's in my life, and gaining the ability to silence my thoughts, and become centred in other, should we say..chakra movements,
i realized that thoughts i had were and could come from others in my near environment. take a funny one,..coming out of a shop yesterday having bought take-aways, walking to my car, i hear thoughts of evaluation and judgement of character,..walk to my car, and so waar ok, look back and i see the other battle horse against me at work passing by.....gee, that person really hates me....but i am offended at the thought, that the specialists of this world really work for the stupid. life is easier for you if u don't go against the grain

[Peace of Mind]

hmm... thanks for taking the time to write this, we-r-one.

"Here's the deal....the days of being politically correct are over for me...I'm no longer accessing that time-line. We need to be as open as possible about discussing our experiences. If fellow star seeds don't start talking, how are we ever going to know? How can we compare notes if we don't talk? Cause we all know we're not going to get the truth from the PTB, so what are we waiting for?"

I cannot help if someone wants to think that by identifying one-self as a star seed, in their mind, they perceive that we think we're better than anyone else or they think we're in need of some attention. That says to me, the person who thinks that might have some insecurity issues. I do feel that star seeds are more advanced in some ways compared to others. I do not think it makes us better.....the reason we are more advanced is because we're older souls who have experience. You cannot have all souls at the same level, it wouldn't work in the environment of duality. The only way the game works is if you have people at varying levels. It's not about being superior to others because when you truly understand the big picture, we are all one in the same anyways, a worthy point to mention, but that's another whole story.

Its not about insecurity issues, is about making claims and not displaying the attributes of those claims nor presenting anything of substance to link to the claims. Anybody can claim to be anything but we/society are accustomed to seeing such claims in action. Many people are starting to get really tired of the smoke screens and how it always seems to masks and create inactivity. We are getting tired of fear mongers, tired of hype that never meets it's expectations, tired of failed predictions, tired of seeing acts of division in motion. We want walkers not talkers. I suspect such entities have a master plan to put into effect, no?

In my mind the varying levels of souls is possibly part of the real evolution process. All of us have the potential to utilize what currently is recognized as metaphysical abilities, but I believe, based on what I have observed and read, that the only reason star seeds seem to have stronger skill sets is because they are more advanced and further along in the evolution process. We are here to carve the way for those who do not "believe".

How do you make believers out of people who are fixed in 3D?

Your comments above fit the parameters of someone who thinks with a 3D mind; that being, if you can't see it, touch it, feel it, taste it, it doesn't exist. If we are to explore other realities we have to get away from this thought process as it does not apply outside the matrix, otherwise you are supporting the belief system of the very matrix you want to remove yourself from. The perfect example of something that exists, but you can't necessarily see, is energy; but you believe in it and you know it's real. Metaphysical abilities are dealing with that energy, and just because you can't see them, doesn't mean their existence isn't real. You see what I mean? When I have a telepathic experience I am utilizing something that cannot be seen and yet the experience is very real to me because I can "feel" the results. I don't have to necessarily see anything to know it's true. Now a younger soul which is less advanced would not understand that.

Are you speaking from a 4D/5D perspective? I didn’t realize someone could do this, especially when they still reside in 3D. What’s it like in the realm you’re speaking from? I’m curious because I really don’t follow the unconfirmed teachings of others. Instead, I rather go through life dealing with reality and expand my awareness by handling actual issues. How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that exist in 3D?

I have no way to prove what I can do, because most of the results happen internally. To ignore my experiences and those of others based on the fact that they don't fit into the belief system of a 3D world would be a mistake. So let me ask you....who are we waiting for to authenticate what many of us all ready know is real? Are we waiting for the thought police to tell us what is real and what is not? And who is the "chosen one" which will present the facts? If you want out of 3D this is what you have to be thinking. There is nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Yes, who are we waiting for?

Since I’ve been on this site people have come and gone making similar claims but never stated any plans/measures/or ideas that will fix our dire situation. They just come in saying they are this and that, waste great time by using the place as a hangout then disappear once their theories/ideas are met with rationality. The world is crumbling everyday, people are suffering everyday and the more people ignore this the more I feel there's some hidden devious force controlling those that can actually help by keeping them preoccupied with indefinable material. Imo, I think a few agents come in to make these claims just to stir up the nest, disempowering some people by stating empty claims (knowingly or not). In actuality, I really don’t mind, I just want to see/know when these beings are going to roll up their sleeves and start doing what they say they can do. As I stated earlier, I don’t really see any evidence of such beings, I just see more humans becoming aware of self and their suppressed abilities, and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest otherwise. Perhaps the awakening to self makes some people feel that way.

I'm not making fun of you, but your comments above sound like a typical stereotype response that people are use to saying and believing. This is what we need to get away from.....Your decision above states that you are still in fear mode, and you are not comfortable stepping outside of the parameters of "preconceived misconceptions", based on what the collective masses would approve of according to the laws of a 3D society. If we keep with this mind-set we will never advance. Just to be clear, there is no tone in my post or intentions of superiority. My goal is to share what I have learned with others so that we may all grow and understand together by learning from each others experiences and the Avalon forum is the appropriate place this very topic should be discussed without ridicule and judgment.

I’m not sure what your definition of fear is, but here are some of mines. Fear is when you are too afraid to stand up to the small handful of oppressors in this world. Fear is when you are afraid to look at the world in its current state and pretend it’s suppose to be that way. Fear is hesitating to walk up to the police/military and tell them who their real enemies are. Fear is when you ignore reality and force yourself to believe in another one that you nor anyone else can prove exist. Fear is knowing/pretending life is an illusion but still hesitate to partake and change the illusion. Fear is looking for excuses before remedies. Fear is nothing but dealing with the unknown, but when you face fear it vanishes.

To be clear on my stance on this...
I protest/attend demonstrations/help organize think tanks and local neighborhood summits/ feed the needy/ and talk to thugs, misfits, gangsters, drug dealers, and prostitutes about responsibility, real empowerment and our future….amongst other things. It's hard doing this alone and/or with few people. You'll be surprise how many "unaware" people put their lives on the line everyday for the well being of all of us (including the self proclaim starseeds). It'll be cool to see a few of these advance beings out there in the fray with us. It's the least they can do, imo.

This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

[Jake]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
Where’s the proof? All I see/hear/read is claims. Better yet, where’s your proof?

tsk, tsk, tsk... Where is YOUR proof that these are just claims??? I have memories of being on a craft. And they are not of this lifetime.

It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend.

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
If I can’t authenticate, I don’t bother, why should I unless I was seeking attention?

Have you ever loved someone? Can you PROVE IT??? Strange and silly argument, no? These are peoples experiences that we are talking about here. Experiences and memories,,, kinda silly to ask one to prove it, meethinks.

I can hold your hand and walk through it with you, but I cannot prove it... And I do not think that you are seeking attention.

I highly doubt that ANY of us are from here. We are not human bodies,,, we HAVE human bodies, but our soul/essence is NOT from around here.
You will have your proof, if you truly want it... I know that from experience,,,

Cheers, Jake.

[Peace of Mind]

My proof is presented when the proof in the claims are not presented. When a person claims to be of a higher power/knowledge/focus/position/etc…but display doing less than the ones they claim to be more advance than…. that is more than subtle proof for me.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone state “ I don’t have to prove anything” there would be no more poverty in the world. That line always strikes me as a cop out. It’s always used when feeling defensive and when the person can’t showcase their claim.

You can prove you love someone by the deeds you perform…it’s not hard to display love at all. In fact I’m doing it right now. As I’m spending time making attempts to get everyone to see from various perspectives that will ultimately get us all on the same page, and hopefully create some urgency.

I believe we are here for the experience, here to be tested in every way, to learn and grow through adversity. To tackle our problems and clean up the mess we created over lifetimes. We are only here for a minute, so why will something as phenomenal as the human come and go just to archive nothing other than being a good slave and a contributor to killing the planet?

Peace

[Jake]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
My proof is presented when the proof in the claims are not presented. When a person claims to be of a higher power/knowledge/focus/position/etc…but display doing less than the ones they claim to be more advance than…. that is more than subtle proof for me.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone state “ I don’t have to prove anything” there would be no more poverty in the world. That line always strikes me as a cop out. It’s always used when feeling defensive and when the person can’t showcase their claim.

You can prove you love someone by the deeds you perform…it’s not hard to display love at all. In fact I’m doing it right now. As I’m spending time making attempts to get everyone to see from various perspectives that will ultimately get us all on the same page, and hopefully create some urgency.

I believe we are here for the experience, here to be tested in every way, to learn and grow through adversity. To tackle our problems and clean up the mess we created over lifetimes. We are only here for a minute, so why will something as phenomenal as the human come and go just to archive nothing other than being a good slave and a contributor to killing the planet?

Peace

Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience. How can you justify demanding proof, and then tell me that you can 'demonstrate' you proof,,, yet others cannot!!?? I am not trying to call you out, personally. Please understand this. "Prove it!" Might work for you. Doesn't work for me. I have had too many fully conscious and waking 'spiritual' experiences to ever have the need to prove it. If you have not, then you have some pretty cool experiences ahead of you.

You can demand proof in a court of law, or when doing mathematical eqations,,, But not with subjective human experience. It does not work like that.
I can demonstrate it in a million ways... that is not the PROOF that you are looking for, is it?

When talking about past lives and memories of past lives,,, of course these are all subjective experiences, Please, let's keep the door open for folks who may just have an experience or two to share. The reality of understanding our past life essence is not going to go away. There is a story unfolding.

Love to all,,, Jake.

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by Jake (here)
It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend

For me, it's quite the opposite: if there was truly no responsibility, anyone could say anything... The burden of proof is on the one making the claims - how could it be any other way? If I write that I have green hamster sitting on my head at this very moment and you question me about that, it's up to me to offer evidence of my claim.

So you have no regard for Russell's teapot?

Russell's teapot, sometimes called the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others, specifically in the case of religion. Russell wrote that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong. Russell's teapot is still referred to in discussions concerning the existence of God.

source: Wikipedia

As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

[Jake]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)

Posted by Jake (here)
It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend

For me, it's quite the opposite: if there was truly no responsibility, anyone could say anything... The burden of proof is on the one making the claims - how could it be any other way? If I write that I have green hamster sitting on my head at this very moment and you question me about that, it's up to me to offer evidence of my claim.

So you have no regard for Russell's teapot?

Russell's teapot, sometimes called the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others, specifically in the case of religion. Russell wrote that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong. Russell's teapot is still referred to in discussions concerning the existence of God.

source: Wikipedia

As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

For Pete's sake... I will say this and then be done with it.. I will take no further part in side-tracking this thread.

I have spent more time trying to prove the validity of my own personal experience than most!!!
Now I stand back and ask myself...

Who am I proving it to?? YOU??? Why do YOU not have the burden to prove it to YOURSELF?? Why does that fall into my hands??
Goodness gracious!! I have spent most of my life hoping to prove it to MYSELF. I have spent many years in turmoil over the truths that I have embraced. I have shed layers and I have learned a lot. I have had to do a lot of personal searching and personal discovery is the reward. Now, you want me to PROVE IT??? Look, if you don't get it,, then please do not sit in judgement. I will say it again...

"It is not my responsibility to prove anything to you!" It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.

I have green hamster sitting on my head at this very moment and you question me about that, it's up to me to offer evidence of my claim.

If you have a green hamster on your head,,, it is none of my business. Why would I demand proof of that??

That is it... My apologies to the OP ot this thread. Please,,, back on topic...

[4evrneo]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

[we-R-one]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)

To be clear on my stance on this...
I protest/attend demonstrations/help organize think tanks and local neighborhood summits/ feed the needy/ and talk to thugs, misfits, gangsters, drug dealers, and prostitutes about responsibility, real empowerment and our future….amongst other things. It's hard doing this alone and/or with few people. You'll be surprise how many "unaware" people put their lives on the line everyday for the well being of all of us (including the self proclaim starseeds). It'll be cool to see a few of these advance beings out there in the fray with us. It's the least they can do, imo.

This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

Peace of Mind,

I have a very good response for you, but it will take time to type it out and I just can't get to it right now, but will soon. I actually had it done yesterday, when my computer locked on me and I lost the whole thing...grrrrr....I have posted the "solution" several times on this forum with the science backing what I say and it hardly gets noticed. The impression I get from most people is they don't want the solution and for various reasons, but the one's listed below are what stand out in my mind the most.
1. They don't want to do the work
2. They're waiting for someone else to do it for them- i.e. Drake
3. If the results aren't fast enough there must be something wrong
4. Whoever is putting out the concept is never "messiah" enough or whatever else anyone can find wrong with the person instead of listening to the messge
5. People's focus seems to be concentrated on dark issues and anything that promotes fear

I too have gotten involved within my community so if you want to list credentials I can share that I'm the founder of two of the largest patriot groups in my state. I've also participated in supporting the "pro se" movement where these guys are fighting back in the court systems by representing themselves. So I assure you I am walking the walk and not just talking the talk. My next move will be assisting in cleaning up the mortgage mess in which the banksters have clouded just about every property title they could get their hands on in our country. So I hear your comments that no one seems to want to make the effort....trust me, I know too well and its probably my biggest complaint. I'm tired of the complacency myself.

Your responses to me show that you base your knowledge on a 3rd dimensional belief system and if you want to get out of 3D, you have to shift your set of beliefs. The difference between 3D and 5D is a belief system. I'll give you some definitions so you can understand why I say what I say. Lots of times it's difficult to interpret what someone is trying to convey because our words have so many different meanings.

Thanks for your detailed message, I will do my best to answer as much as I can. Please know that we may find differences in what we both may deem to be "proof". When you learn to look within, the proof doesn't always have to show itself in a tangible form. For those of us who understand this, based on our own experiences, we cannot always provide you with the kind of proof in the form that you think is substantial. So for instance, if I'm telling you about a dream I had, how am I to prove what happened in that dream? I have nothing physical to give you, only my memory as the recollection of what the dream was about, see what I mean? It's the same with the energy concept, you can't see it, but you know it exists. So keep in mind, just because you can't see something doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

[4evrneo]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
So keep in mind, just because you can't see something doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

Very well said. That is exactly how I feel about many things happening to alot of awake people right now. The people that know me think its strange that I can talk endlessly about astral projection but if they want proof, I have nothing to give. I tell them the same thing " Prove to ME its not true".

Blessings,
Annette

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by Jake (here)

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
My proof is presented when the proof in the claims are not presented. When a person claims to be of a higher power/knowledge/focus/position/etc…but display doing less than the ones they claim to be more advance than…. that is more than subtle proof for me.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone state “ I don’t have to prove anything” there would be no more poverty in the world. That line always strikes me as a cop out. It’s always used when feeling defensive and when the person can’t showcase their claim.

You can prove you love someone by the deeds you perform…it’s not hard to display love at all. In fact I’m doing it right now. As I’m spending time making attempts to get everyone to see from various perspectives that will ultimately get us all on the same page, and hopefully create some urgency.

I believe we are here for the experience, here to be tested in every way, to learn and grow through adversity. To tackle our problems and clean up the mess we created over lifetimes. We are only here for a minute, so why will something as phenomenal as the human come and go just to archive nothing other than being a good slave and a contributor to killing the planet?

Peace

Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience. How can you justify demanding proof, and then tell me that you can 'demonstrate' you proof,,, yet others cannot!!?? I am not trying to call you out, personally. Please understand this. "Prove it!" Might work for you. Doesn't work for me. I have had too many fully conscious and waking 'spiritual' experiences to ever have the need to prove it. If you have not, then you have some pretty cool experiences ahead of you.

You can demand proof in a court of law, or when doing mathematical eqations,,, But not with subjective human experience. It does not work like that.
I can demonstrate it in a million ways... that is not the PROOF that you are looking for, is it?

When talking about past lives and memories of past lives,,, of course these are all subjective experiences, Please, let's keep the door open for folks who may just have an experience or two to share. The reality of understanding our past life essence is not going to go away. There is a story unfolding.

Love to all,,, Jake.

I think we can agree that one’s belief of being a “special being” is subjective. I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there. I do a lot of research as far as the cosmos are concern and I can poke many holes in what NASA and our history books teach us. In fact, much of the teachings are on the verge of being change which suggest to me the cosmos is nothing like we think it is. Which sought of explains why I hold doubt whenever someone makes claims about Stars, etc...

At least one clear demonstration of being a starseed would be enough, a million demonstrations is not needed…at least not for me. I believe this discussion is more about verifying a starseed not so much about PLR. How can we properly determine the origins of man and/or speak about the realms of space if we can’t even trust the information/references giving to us by the very people we don’t trust?

Peace

[we-R-one]

Posted by 4evrneo (here)
The people that know me think its strange that I can talk endlessly about astral projection but if they want proof, I have nothing to give. I tell them the same thing " Prove to ME its not true".

Blessings,
Annette

EXACTLY! lol

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)

To be clear on my stance on this...
I protest/attend demonstrations/help organize think tanks and local neighborhood summits/ feed the needy/ and talk to thugs, misfits, gangsters, drug dealers, and prostitutes about responsibility, real empowerment and our future….amongst other things. It's hard doing this alone and/or with few people. You'll be surprise how many "unaware" people put their lives on the line everyday for the well being of all of us (including the self proclaim starseeds). It'll be cool to see a few of these advance beings out there in the fray with us. It's the least they can do, imo.

This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

Peace of Mind,

I have a very good response for you, but it will take time to type it out and I just can't get to it right now, but will soon. I actually had it done yesterday, when my computer locked on me and I lost the whole thing...grrrrr....I have posted the "solution" several times on this forum with the science backing what I say and it hardly gets noticed. The impression I get from most people is they don't want the solution and for various reasons, but the one's listed below are what stand out in my mind the most.
1. They don't want to do the work
2. They're waiting for someone else to do it for them- i.e. Drake
3. If the results aren't fast enough there must be something wrong
4. Whoever is putting out the concept is never "messiah" enough or whatever else anyone can find wrong with the person instead of listening to the messge
5. People's focus seems to be concentrated on dark issues and anything that promotes fear

I too have gotten involved within my community so if you want to list credentials I can share that I'm the founder of two of the largest patriot groups in my state. I've also participated in supporting the "pro se" movement where these guys are fighting back in the court systems by representing themselves. So I assure you I am walking the walk and not just talking the talk. My next move will be assisting in cleaning up the mortgage mess in which the banksters have clouded just about every property title they could get their hands on in our country. So I hear your comments that no one seems to want to make the effort....trust me, I know too well and its probably my biggest complaint. I'm tired of the complacency myself.

Your responses to me show that you base your knowledge on a 3rd dimensional belief system and if you want to get out of 3D, you have to shift your set of beliefs. The difference between 3D and 5D is a belief system. I'll give you some definitions so you can understand why I say what I say. Lots of times it's difficult to interpret what someone is trying to convey because our words have so many different meanings.

Thanks for your detailed message, I will do my best to answer as much as I can. Please know that we may find differences in what we both may deem to be "proof". When you learn to look within, the proof doesn't always have to show itself in a tangible form. For those of us who understand this, based on our own experiences, we cannot always provide you with the kind of proof in the form that you think is substantial. So for instance, if I'm telling you about a dream I had, how am I to prove what happened in that dream? I have nothing physical to give you, only my memory as the recollection of what the dream was about, see what I mean? It's the same with the energy concept, you can't see it, but you know it exists. So keep in mind, just because you can't see something doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

Words can’t express the gratitude flowing through my body when I read your contributions; it would be nice to collaborate our ideas and contributions (be it here, or elsewhere). I just want to take this show (Avalon) on the road, make it worldwide instead of just letting the potential here sit in a distant corner of the internet. The world can use more people like those that post in this forum. This place means more to me than some here may think. I’m just a no nonsense, direct, fair, but active being wanting to make the world exactly what we all to want it to be. We talk about it so much, so I feel we need to be more about it and less talking about it. But, that’s just my expectations and I can kind of understand why some rather go a different route. Not everyone is cut out to do what I do, and I’m fine with that. It would help to see more good news being circulated here as appose to seeing disempowering subjects that seem to make many of the members uneasy. We control this ride; we just need be mindful on the road we have chosen to travel on. I'm all about doing, and we can do whatever we put our minds to.

Peace

[we-R-one]

PS.

Now if I take the time to lay all this out, I would really appreciate some acknowledgment to my post. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but the amount of time it takes to answer all these questions is enormous. But I find it really annoying when I do this and then no one acknowledges my posts. So I'm more than happy to answer questions, believe me, I want the discussion, but I have grown tired of forum members blowing by posts after someone goes to great lengths to explain themselves. I do my best to type out a message that is clear, concise and orderly so that anyone can follow, so I know they're not being overlooked because I can't communicate. My post will be long in order to answer questions and make my case...

So I have to ask you Peace of Mind, are you willing to read the whole thing through? Will you watch the l links I give? Because if you're not serious, than I would rather not waste my time, but I believe you are, because you took the time to write me a very detailed message so I was pleased about that. Click thanks on this post if you are willing and I will put the time in to answer everything.

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
PS.

Now if I take the time to lay all this out, I would really appreciate some acknowledgment to my post. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but the amount of time it takes to answer all these questions is enormous. But I find it really annoying when I do this and then no one acknowledges my posts. So I'm more than happy to answer questions, believe me, I want the discussion, but I have grown tired of forum members blowing by posts after someone goes to great lengths to explain themselves. I do my best to type out a message that is clear, concise and orderly so that anyone can follow, so I know they're not being overlooked because I can't communicate. My post will be long in order to answer questions and make my case...

So I have to ask you Peace of Mind, are you willing to read the whole thing through? Will you watch the l links I give? Because if you're not serious, than I would rather not waste my time, but I believe you are, because you took the time to write me a very detailed message so I was pleased about that. Click thanks on this post if you are willing and I will put the time in to answer everything.

I most certainly will acknowledge your post, and I'm sure others will too. That said, only do it if it comes from the heart, because there are many lurkers (non members) who can not give you the acknowledgement you're asking for.

Peace

[we-R-one]

ok thanks, and yes, always from the heart and that is the key component to the solution I will present.

[Jake]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)

Posted by Jake (here)
Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience. How can you justify demanding proof, and then tell me that you can 'demonstrate' you proof,,, yet others cannot!!?? I am not trying to call you out, personally. Please understand this. "Prove it!" Might work for you. Doesn't work for me. I have had too many fully conscious and waking 'spiritual' experiences to ever have the need to prove it. If you have not, then you have some pretty cool experiences ahead of you.

You can demand proof in a court of law, or when doing mathematical eqations,,, But not with subjective human experience. It does not work like that.
I can demonstrate it in a million ways... that is not the PROOF that you are looking for, is it?

When talking about past lives and memories of past lives,,, of course these are all subjective experiences, Please, let's keep the door open for folks who may just have an experience or two to share. The reality of understanding our past life essence is not going to go away. There is a story unfolding.

Love to all,,, Jake.

I think we can agree that one’s belief of being a “special being” is subjective. I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there. I do a lot of research as far as the cosmos are concern and I can poke many holes in what NASA and our history books teach us. In fact, much of the teachings are on the verge of being change which suggest to me the cosmos is nothing like we think it is. Which sought of explains why I hold doubt whenever someone makes claims about Stars, etc...

At least one clear demonstration of being a starseed would be enough, a million demonstrations is not needed…at least not for me. I believe this discussion is more about verifying a starseed not so much about PLR. How can we properly determine the origins of man and/or speak about the realms of space if we can’t even trust the information/references giving to us by the very people we don’t trust?

Peace

Indeed, thank you. Brother, if I could prove it to you, I would. I most definately would! I think that part of the issue with opening oneself up to this sort of information is the nonsensical belief that being a soul/essence from another reality, (physical or not) seems to be interperated as some sort of amazing or one-of-a-kind event. The truth is that it is more common than one would think. My perspective being that souls are immortal,,, they did not start here, and they do not end here. It is only logical (sort of ) to understand the essence of soul being more/bigger than the essence of any ONE physical lifetime. And why do phyisical lifetimes have to be human?? I went through much of the lonely depression that comes with denying my true nature. Delores Cannon's material resonates with me deeply. I do not want to go into to much detail from my own experience, but being a 'starseed' does not mean that we STARTED as an alien, either... It simply means that we know that we belong to a group that is not part of the human experience. We have to begin to understand that it is not only POSSIBLE... but it is more PROBABLE that we all have the experiences of many lifetimes, locked away. Amnesia is a good word, I guess.

Jake.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by 4evrneo (here)
Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

My heart goes out to her, it really does, because clearly she is sad or depressed about something profound, either for something she has that she doesn’t want, or something she wants but doesn’t have. This is pretty much the root of all problems, and the only way out, effectively, is to ask which one it is. Only in asking can you even begin to work on answering…

It very much depends if she has any desire to seek for an answer – a way up and out of that spiral. That she burst into tears when you showed her the Starseed information is telling enough. She may well be. If that is the case then she must know, above all else, that she is not alone.

The worst part for anyone who is lost in the darkness of sorrow, whatever it is that one is going through, is believing that they walk alone. They do not. If only you could have her acknowledge that, knowthat, then it would be a big first step.