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    Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
    I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
    One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
    She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


    Blessings,
    Annette


    Hello Annette,


    I think it's actually really nice of you, being so open minded and trying to see your daughter as spiritual being .

    I think that terms like 'star seed' are but attempts to name something we actually don't have exact name for , in these times and human society ,
    being a 'star seed' , no matter what you say ..rises more questions than answers,

    and those who came here to search for the bigger answers and to assist mankind in his progress have to do so on their own .

    I'd say to people 'being a starseed and so what you do '. Serve others no matter who you are , if you are different or special you'll have to work twice more .
    We all know it's the case ..

    So I think, ordinary people ( meant in jest ) have much less problems with Life , or lets say human life than so called 'star seeds' .

    They can be 'star nuts' . Or 'fallen angels' . Being different does not make your human life easier , it does not rob you of the necessity to confront strangeness of human experience, quite vice versa..


    The answer is not of course, can not be found in questionaries .. If you are something or someone , you're subconsciously aware of your identity . Do not need others to tell you ,
    unless the time for you is ready to open up ..and that comes much much later in life usually .

    I think that the adverts for star seeds are misguiding many ways or may -be . It's not something to attain, not anything to envy either . Basically , you can't even find out unless through your self .



    On the other hand ...what do I know about rising human child.. i'm sure it's being a challenging experience ..


    Peace & Love ..and Freedom




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    Quote Posted by 4evrneo (here)
    Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
    I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
    One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
    She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


    Blessings,
    Annette
    Hi Annette,

    Your daughter is beautiful!

    Although my children are alot younger, I can relate somewhat to what you are going through. My children seem both to be "different", and sometimes I worry so much about how much pain this might cause them.

    Anyway, this is what I find helpful:

    From Abraham/Hicks I learnt the importance of holding the vibration of the desired outcome. For example; I used to worry about my son not making friends. So I tried to find within a vision of him; selfassured, with good friends, playing in his room. And then hold this vision in my heart area. Feeling it.
    I should add that I could only do this when I was feeling relaxed and happy. When I was in fear it was too big a step to visualize the desired outcome.
    I must say, it worked. Not instantly, but a while later there he was, in his room, playing with good friends.

    I´m not suggesting this is THE answer, but it might help.

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    I'm not a fan of labels and I'm not a great fan of the term "Starseed" - I wish there was a better term.

    I've been "different" my wholelife, especially when I was younger, I just knew things about really big things, had an uncanny connection to nature and animals and certain other people could always see things in me and would tell my mom that I was "special". I hated it. I hated being "special". In fact I spent much energy sabotaging myself so that I was NOT "special". I taught myself how to forget (had photographic memory), I decided I would need a handicap -- glasses would do -- less than a year later my eyes deteriorated and I needed glasses. I taught myself to lie -- something that went (and still does) go against every particle of my being. I even downplayed all my talents. I did these things to try to be more "normal" and to this day I still live with all these effects.

    My point? Life is hard when you're different - it doesn't matter even what that difference is.

    The upside? My "different-ness" has allowed me to help the overall project move forward. I now understand what I am to be doing, and I also now understand exactly what the differences between me and "ordinary folk" are - which honestly isn't much. Besides my clearly pretty good set of genes, the main difference between what humans are and what they need to be is almost psychological - just a difference in perspective. I had been able to access certain views as a child that gave me an advantage in moving toward this direction, but really I think there's not a whole lot more. Therefore I tend to think of "Starseeds" as the pioneers of new ways of human "Being" to address the "Beingness" factor of humanity and to help shift the course from perpetual darkness into enlightenment - as is the natural course of our evolution.

    Am I an alien or did I get seeded from the stars? Who knows and I don't really care, I am human now and I'm having a great time with it (it hasn't always been this way - I nearly snuffed myself on more than one occasion), besides it was never me who was "different" anyway -- it was everyone else

    Just some rambling 2 cent thoughts. Happy Friday!

    (Didn't see the vid yet but will check it later)
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    Quote Posted by Peace of Mind (here)

    I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there.

    Have you had the opportunity to explore the NDE (Near Death Experience) or reincarnation? I think these concepts are worthy to point out as it explains part of the truth we are seeking. The reality is we're all from somewhere else. How do we know this? Because if you study NDE and even reincarnation, you begin to understand that you are consciousnessness and that is huge! You can't see consciousness! But to say it doesn't exist...well we all know that's not true....see what I mean?

    So once you grasp that you're consciousness what does that mean? It means you can go anywhere you want! You are immortal! So I'm glad you asked in the first paragraph above, because this is part of the truth. When you read stories of people's NDE or even reincarnation- how could they know some of the things that they know if they weren't there? How can someone die and then be able to describe to the doctors after they come back to life- the very conversations taking place in the room after they supposedly had died....and not only the conversations, but they can tell you detail things as to who's in the room and what they're wearing, etc.....This cannot be ignored- there is so much documented on this, but one might find this difficult to believe because it does not fit into the 3D belief systems that most people expect it to fit into. Which is why I say, in order to get out of the matrix, you have to realize you're in it, the belief system that supports it, and then recognize how to get out of it.

    I am hopeful through our dialogue that maybe I offer pieces of the puzzle that you haven't come across yet that will help you come to the same conclusion that many of us have, or at least understand why some of us say the things we do.

    I do a lot of research as far as the cosmos are concern and I can poke many holes in what NASA and our history books teach us. In fact, much of the teachings are on the verge of being change which suggest to me the cosmos is nothing like we think it is. Which sought of explains why I hold doubt whenever someone makes claims about Stars, etc...

    At least one clear demonstration of being a starseed would be enough, a million demonstrations is not needed…at least not for me. I believe this discussion is more about verifying a starseed not so much about PLR. How can we properly determine the origins of man and/or speak about the realms of space if we can’t even trust the information/references giving to us by the very people we don’t trust?

    Let me ask this.....Who would you trust to give you proper information? What will satisfy you as being a proper source and why should it be a proper source for everyone to believe? I ask this because we all know how twisted the truth has become thanks to the PTB. So you have definitely come to the right conclusion based on some of your research, just like the rest of us. I think this is all the more reason to take seriously the things I say and the things that others say and then compare notes. You will probably get more truth from personal experiences than someone from above who claims they are the moral authority on the very topics we are discussing. It could be you just haven't come across the right piece of material that reinforces enough in a manner that satisfies your individual expectations.

    So when I read your last sentence above...this is why you look for the truth within and not necessarily wait to hear it come from someone above. My answers to you are based on lots of reading and my own personal experiences of truth coming from within. And though my experiences may be different from others, it does not make anyone's truth necessarily obsolete or superior over anothers.

    I'm not sure what kind of demonstration you need for a star seed to prove oneself? As mentioned before, lots of times my skills are random and do not necessarily happen on command. I will however in a later post share something that I did, that I think validates even more why I fall under the star seed classification and gives some credence to our existence. Again, I can't physically prove it to you, because it happened a long time ago, but I can give you the thought process that created the outcome. Additionally the effects of what I did, happened internally so I have nothing tangible to give you other than the thought process and why I believe it was key to the solution that we all have been searching for...and it's the very reason I believe I'm here;..... so that I may share that experience on a mass scale with others, so they too can contribute to the solution using the concept I discovered in order to shift our reality to the higher frequencies of love and compassion rather than remaining in the lower frequencies of duality.




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    Hi Peace,

    My answers are in blue; thanks for the nice dialogue from you and all who have been participating on this thread.

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    Quote Posted by 4evrneo (here)
    Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
    I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
    One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
    She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


    Blessings,
    Annette
    Hi Annette,

    Your daughter is beautiful!

    Although my children are alot younger, I can relate somewhat to what you are going through. My children seem both to be "different", and sometimes I worry so much about how much pain this might cause them.

    Anyway, this is what I find helpful:

    From Abraham/Hicks I learnt the importance of holding the vibration of the desired outcome. For example; I used to worry about my son not making friends. So I tried to find within a vision of him; selfassured, with good friends, playing in his room. And then hold this vision in my heart area. Feeling it.
    I should add that I could only do this when I was feeling relaxed and happy. When I was in fear it was too big a step to visualize the desired outcome.
    I must say, it worked. Not instantly, but a while later there he was, in his room, playing with good friends.

    I´m not suggesting this is THE answer, but it might help.
    Perfect example of how to be heart centered......this is where it's at!

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    I can agree with just about everything you said, i'm well aware of this, we-r-one . And yes I've had a few near death experiences in my younger (and naive) days. But i still don't see how this makes one a star seed. Do you care to give a brief description of a star seed...in your own words. I've read and heard from many sources....just would like to see it from your view.

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    Quote Posted by Swan (here)
    Quote Posted by 4evrneo (here)
    Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
    I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
    One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
    She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


    Blessings,
    Annette
    Hi Annette,

    Your daughter is beautiful!

    Although my children are alot younger, I can relate somewhat to what you are going through. My children seem both to be "different", and sometimes I worry so much about how much pain this might cause them.

    Anyway, this is what I find helpful:

    From Abraham/Hicks I learnt the importance of holding the vibration of the desired outcome. For example; I used to worry about my son not making friends. So I tried to find within a vision of him; selfassured, with good friends, playing in his room. And then hold this vision in my heart area. Feeling it.
    I should add that I could only do this when I was feeling relaxed and happy. When I was in fear it was too big a step to visualize the desired outcome.
    I must say, it worked. Not instantly, but a while later there he was, in his room, playing with good friends.

    I´m not suggesting this is THE answer, but it might help.
    Perfect example of how to be heart centered......this is where it's at!
    Thank you so much for responding swan, Love this idea !
    I will definitely start doing this daily ! I would do anything for both my children and this seems like it would be a very effective start.

    Blessings,
    Annette
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    we-R-one,
    Thank you for all your insight into this controversial topic and for taking the time to share your views and experience.
    This has been helpful to learn more about Starseeds. For my daughters sake, I want to learn as much as I can to help her.

    Blessings,
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    To be a bit more clear we-r-one.... I do not believe much of what is taught to us about the cosmos...simply because of the source of information . To explain would be a whole other topic. Just want to see your perspective, it would be more enlightening without using the knowledge we were thought about, concerning "out of space".


    PS. Please forgive the delays in my replies. Cellphones are not really made for such discussions.

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    I can agree with just about everything you said, i'm well aware of this, we-r-one . And yes I've had a few near death experiences in my younger (and naive) days. But i still don't see how this makes one a star seed. Do you care to give a brief description of a star seed...in your own words. I've read and heard from many sources....just would like to see it from your view.

    Peace
    ok, thanks Peace Yes I wanted to mention...I don't know where you're at in your discovery, so I just try and lay everything out, as I don't know what you know, so it helps when you give me feedback like this because then I understand if the concepts are familiar to you or not. The point of me discussing NDE and reincarnation does not necessarily have anything to do with making someone a star seed. The reason I wanted to cover those two areas is because you said this:

    "I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there."

    What I'm getting at is people do leave earth's atmosphere- and by understanding that you're consciousness, you can easily see there's a real possibility that you can go practically anywhere you want and most likely have, as you reincarnate. But to understand that, you have to believe in reincarnation, which does not particularly fall under the the belief system of someone who resides in the concepts of 3D.

    So if you weren't familiar with NDE or reincarnation, and you didn't believe in either topic, you would have a hard time understanding consciousness and the role it plays within this conversation. The supposed story about star seeds is that they come from higher dimensions, in order to help raise the frequencies on this planet which in turn is suppose to help shift the vibratory rate, which in turn is suppose to change the reality. Well if we're consciousness, than it is very likely that some could be coming from other places based on what we know about NDE and reincarnation. I hope that makes sense?

    I will layout characteristics of star seeds in another post. If I remember right, someone also posted a link at the start of this thread. I think whoever follows this conversation needs to start at the very beginning to understand and keep up, otherwise one might get lost or not fully understand the reason behind things being said and I'll be able to tell by the questions if you've been following along or not, lol.

    Unfortunately since this is a complex topic, it's not easy covering all the basis in a few short paragraphs, because to understand, you have to be able to pull yourself out of 3D belief systems that you have been programmed to follow as the only underlying truth.

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    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)
    Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:

    New Information for me: "The souls of the Starchildren are the souls of highly advanced Extraterrestrials. Angelics. Ascended beings, and some are even the souls of the Elohim."

    "These Individuals recognize the law of ONE and the importance of spiritual connection to supreme source.
    Be they Indigo, crystal, rainbow or other …
    Their presence brings hope for all of Humanity.
    They are here to hold the light for the World.
    "

    A Thanks: This Indigo, thanks you, We-R-One, and all the other Starseeds, and "Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow or Other..." for holding the light for the World.

    Peace and Blessings,
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    PS Respectfully, if one asks me to prove I am an Indigo please know that I’m not here to convince you of anything. I'm fine if you don't believe, it doesn't change what is for me.

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    we-R-one,
    Thank you for all your insight into this controversial topic and for taking the time to share your views and experience.
    This has been helpful to learn more about Starseeds. For my daughters sake, I want to learn as much as I can to help her.

    Blessings,
    Annette
    I'm glad I can help. The fact that she cried when she read the information is very telling. I know when I first came across the info, it took me three weeks to absorb/accept what I was reading. It was mind blowing, over-whelming and well......I had no one to talk to....I couldn't believe what I was reading/discovering. So many emotions all at once. You're daughter is so lucky to have you at such an awakened state!

    This is an excerpt from my book I hope to put together some day about my star seed background and awakening experience, this is what it felt like at my moment upon discovering the star seed identity, this was the beginning of my awakening. I was writing this letter to a friend I had met within the patriot movement. The date of this letter was June 28, 2010:

    "... about two years ago I began to awake. I’ve always known I was different, but did not understand the purpose of these differences. Similar to a light switch, someone turned me on and like magic; I began to quickly connect the dots that soon led me to the purpose of my very existence. I never imagined that this existence would entail that of a lightworker enabling those to experience ascension in the hopes to help save humanity from the destruction of the dark….somebody please pinch me,…. no slap me, might be more fitting,…. cause at times I feel like I’m living in a movie and it all seems surreal. I’m not kidding when I tell you this recent discovery literally brought me to my knees in disbelief…..it has been a very humbling and emotional experience. I can’t even begin to explain what the weight of that kind of responsibility feels like, not to mention the fact that someone has entrusted in my soul to handle something of such a sacred magnitude. I’m not embarrassed to share that I have spent several nights drowning myself in endless glasses of wine attempting to “get a grip” .……. Have you ever seen those scenes in movies where they’re filming the character by spinning around them with the camera really fast? That’s exactly what it feels like……everything just started spinning around me when I began to grasp the true purpose of all the puzzle pieces coming together.………The years of unexplained abilities, past dealings with ascension(with no realization of the concept) and various other events that has lead me to believe there is no doubt to my role in this big picture. I am still amazed how I knew exactly what to do without any guidance, I just did it (thank you crystalline DNA). At the time I had no vocabulary to understand what it was that I was doing, but now it’s all making sense…."

    You have to take into consideration that my level of knowledge has grown since writing this portion, which was done about two weeks into my discovery. I see a little inaccuracy in my descripton, but I'm leaving it, because I want it to read exactly like it felt at the time. To finally be able to identify myself with certain traits and characteristics was a huge relief. I know I mentioned I wasn't a fan of labels, but they do serve a purpose as long as they're utilized correctly.

    Your daughter is probably overwhelmed by the information. I was in my mid 40's when I wrote this...your daughter is only 25. So I can tell you, internally when all the dots started connecting, the other thing I realized was that my world was not set up for the reasons I thought I always knew to be true. When you make the connection of being a star seed for the first time, you are realizing that you're not from here and that there's a high likely-hood that you are alien. That's a pretty overwhelming concept for someone to accept for the first time. Of course everyone's reaction is going to be different, it just depends on the source and how scary the information being presented is being laid out. When this happened to me, I was still somewhat in 3D mode, I had not completely stepped outside of the psychological matrix.

    What could be scaring your daughter is the walls of reality she once knew to be safe are crumbling down and it's making her feel very insecure, because now in her mind, she is probably questioning everything and not knowing what's real or not.

    I hope she chooses to research star seed information in more depth, as she might feel better once she has a better grasp on the whole topic. I laugh about my awakening moment above....but I wasn't laughing back then.
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    We-R-One, you demonstrate great restraint and patience in this thread and everywhere else for that matter. Thank you for the time and energy and vast knowledge base that you share with us.

    With heart,
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    PS.

    Now if I take the time to lay all this out, I would really appreciate some acknowledgment to my post. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but the amount of time it takes to answer all these questions is enormous. But I find it really annoying when I do this and then no one acknowledges my posts. So I'm more than happy to answer questions, believe me, I want the discussion, but I have grown tired of forum members blowing by posts after someone goes to great lengths to explain themselves. I do my best to type out a message that is clear, concise and orderly so that anyone can follow, so I know they're not being overlooked because I can't communicate. My post will be long in order to answer questions and make my case...

    So I have to ask you Peace of Mind, are you willing to read the whole thing through? Will you watch the l links I give? Because if you're not serious, than I would rather not waste my time, but I believe you are, because you took the time to write me a very detailed message so I was pleased about that. Click thanks on this post if you are willing and I will put the time in to answer everything.
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    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)
    Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:

    New Information for me: "The souls of the Starchildren are the souls of highly advanced Extraterrestrials. Angelics. Ascended beings, and some are even the souls of the Elohim."

    "These Individuals recognize the law of ONE and the importance of spiritual connection to supreme source.
    Be they Indigo, crystal, rainbow or other …
    Their presence brings hope for all of Humanity.
    They are here to hold the light for the World.
    "

    A Thanks: This Indigo, thanks you, We-R-One, and all the other Starseeds, and "Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow or Other..." for holding the light for the World.

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    I'm glad you brought that up WCBD...you know what's funny about that information....- when I had my past life reading done with Kevin Ryerson, he didn't know I was a star seed. I asked what soul group I was from and I was told I came from the soul group of Archangel Michael and Raphael. At the time I had not come across this video as of yet. But as you noted above, they mention star seeds coming from angelic realms. So I thought that was intriguing to come across that video and have it mention that. It was another dot connecting moment that made me think there could be truth to what's being said.

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    Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience.
    Jake, I'd say the same for you, as for We-R-One, your patience to share knowledge and the tolerance for opposing opinions just blows me away.

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    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)
    Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:

    New Information for me: "The souls of the Starchildren are the souls of highly advanced Extraterrestrials. Angelics. Ascended beings, and some are even the souls of the Elohim."

    "These Individuals recognize the law of ONE and the importance of spiritual connection to supreme source.
    Be they Indigo, crystal, rainbow or other …
    Their presence brings hope for all of Humanity.
    They are here to hold the light for the World.
    "

    A Thanks: This Indigo, thanks you, We-R-One, and all the other Starseeds, and "Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow or Other..." for holding the light for the World.

    Peace and Blessings,
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    I'm glad you brought that up WCBD...you know what's funny about that information....- when I had my past life reading done with Kevin Ryerson, he didn't know I was a star seed. I asked what soul group I was from and I was told I came from the soul group of Archangel Michael and Raphael. At the time I had not come across this video as of yet. But as you noted above, they mention star seeds coming from angelic realms. So I thought that was intriguing to come across that video and have it mention that. It was another dot connecting moment that made me think there could be truth to what's being said.
    Your post is the third major synchronistic marker in 24 hours from a personal question I put out there for my Angelic guys. I backed away from them because of all the bad rap on dark ones. This is a personal experience (one of many many) from a couple of months ago called: "Sword, Shield, Armor = Spirit, Knowledge, Power/Wisdom".

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    hmm... thanks for taking the time to write this, we-r-one.

    "Here's the deal....the days of being politically correct are over for me...I'm no longer accessing that time-line. We need to be as open as possible about discussing our experiences. If fellow star seeds don't start talking, how are we ever going to know? How can we compare notes if we don't talk? Cause we all know we're not going to get the truth from the PTB, so what are we waiting for?"

    I cannot help if someone wants to think that by identifying one-self as a star seed, in their mind, they perceive that we think we're better than anyone else or they think we're in need of some attention. That says to me, the person who thinks that might have some insecurity issues. I do feel that star seeds are more advanced in some ways compared to others. I do not think it makes us better.....the reason we are more advanced is because we're older souls who have experience. You cannot have all souls at the same level, it wouldn't work in the environment of duality. The only way the game works is if you have people at varying levels. It's not about being superior to others because when you truly understand the big picture, we are all one in the same anyways, a worthy point to mention, but that's another whole story.

    Its not about insecurity issues, is about making claims and not displaying the attributes of those claims nor presenting anything of substance to link to the claims. Anybody can claim to be anything but we/society are accustomed to seeing such claims in action. Many people are starting to get really tired of the smoke screens and how it always seems to masks and create inactivity. We are getting tired of fear mongers, tired of hype that never meets it's expectations, tired of failed predictions, tired of seeing acts of division in motion. We want walkers not talkers. I suspect such entities have a master plan to put into effect, no?

    I think we covered most of this all ready in discussing not being able to show proof for subjective experiences. For some situations, it's impossible to give the physical proof that you may want, but that does not mean the experience does not exist. To me, part of thinking in 3D is constantly requiring a tangible item before believing something is true. As far as entities having a master plan...I have no idea, nor am I privy to any information in regards to that, so I really can't comment. I will tell you my concern is that it seems to go against the principles of learning to be the controller of your own reality. This shift that's taking place is suppose to be pulling us out of "messiah" mode. Well if the ET's show up with a message of being our saviors, that might concern me, because what makes that scenario any different than the one we're all ready in? I'm more of the belief that the ET's are all ready here, such as star seeds, with the job of laying down the foundation to a new reality so that others may walk over the path with greater ease. I think as you continue on with my posts, this will be come more apparent how this is happening based on the solution I plan on sharing.

    In my mind the varying levels of souls is possibly part of the real evolution process. All of us have the potential to utilize what currently is recognized as metaphysical abilities, but I believe, based on what I have observed and read, that the only reason star seeds seem to have stronger skill sets is because they are more advanced and further along in the evolution process. We are here to carve the way for those who do not "believe".

    How do you make believers out of people who are fixed in 3D?

    You don't. I don't necessarily think everyone is meant to be a believer. I am of the belief that you have souls down here on earth at various levels. I'm not convinced everyone is suppose to wake up....as frustrating as that has become for a lot of us. Those that are ready to awaken, will step forward and begin to ask questions. I know many people that are still walking around in a coma-like trance. They're not bad people, but for whatever reason, it's not their time to awaken...maybe it's not part of their life blueprint..or maybe they're playing a dark role for another soul to learn and part of that role means they stay asleep, or maybe while someone near and dear to them is allowed to explore and evolve, the other soul's job is to hold down the fort at home so to speak.

    People are going to wake up when they're ready; all you can do is plant seeds. Those that become drawn to you are who you want to work with. In time, as enough people awaken, those left who haven't, will- see 100th Monkey Syndrome study (I will post this definition later)


    Your comments above fit the parameters of someone who thinks with a 3D mind; that being, if you can't see it, touch it, feel it, taste it, it doesn't exist. If we are to explore other realities we have to get away from this thought process as it does not apply outside the matrix, otherwise you are supporting the belief system of the very matrix you want to remove yourself from. The perfect example of something that exists, but you can't necessarily see, is energy; but you believe in it and you know it's real. Metaphysical abilities are dealing with that energy, and just because you can't see them, doesn't mean their existence isn't real. You see what I mean? When I have a telepathic experience I am utilizing something that cannot be seen and yet the experience is very real to me because I can "feel" the results. I don't have to necessarily see anything to know it's true. Now a younger soul which is less advanced would not understand that.

    Are you speaking from a 4D/5D perspective? I didn’t realize someone could do this, especially when they still reside in 3D. What’s it like in the realm you’re speaking from? I’m curious because I really don’t follow the unconfirmed teachings of others. Instead, I rather go through life dealing with reality and expand my awareness by handling actual issues. How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that exist in 3D?

    Let's define the word dimension as this will help explain my viewpoint more clearly. There is much confusion between dimension and density. Many who have studied the Law of One material utilize the word density. I interchange the two words as meaning the same thing. I'm personally not clear as which is the most accurate. I think what's important is that you know the context in which I'm using the meaning of the word.

    DIMENSION- A dimension is a state of consciousness. When you look at what we know about dimensions, what we find is that each is about a unique set of beliefs. Our current 3D consciousness was not established until enough people began to believe the same way. And the current 5D consciousness will not be established until enough of the people existing there figure out how to live in unity. So we see that when enough people live a set of beliefs they create a dimension.
    SOURCE: Jelaila Starr

    In this case, I'm referring the word dimension to mean a state of consciousness based on a set of beliefs, not necessarily a physical place that one occupies. This is why this can get confusing because words get interchanged and then you have several meanings for the same word! As if it's not confusing enough all ready! lol

    So you'll know when I'm discussing the shift from 3D to 4D/5D I'm basically saying your set of beliefs change from one parameter to another. Which is why I will also say, if you want to get out of the matrix of 3D, you have to be willing to shift your set of beliefs as new truths come forward.

    Your last question, "How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that exist in 3D?"
    Because it's a state of consciousness it's very easy to go in and out of dimensions. I can tell rather easy what dimension someone is in, based on what they say and where their belief system lies. When you begin to doing this, you're basically learning to live in multi-dimensionality. So once I assess where someone's at spiritually, I can then better decide which dimension they are coming from and speak to them appropriately. Right now this is easy, because most people are still in 3D, though I do see some going back and forth between 3D/5D. What's funny is because they don't fully understand, they're not even aware that they're switching back and forth or that they're really stepping outside of the matrix.

    The issues in 3D aren't being ignored, it's just that I have placed my attention in a higher dimension in order to help create the change within the 3rd Dimension, by utilizing the belief systems of that higher dimension in order to influence that of the 3rd dimension.


    I have no way to prove what I can do, because most of the results happen internally. To ignore my experiences and those of others based on the fact that they don't fit into the belief system of a 3D world would be a mistake. So let me ask you....who are we waiting for to authenticate what many of us all ready know is real? Are we waiting for the thought police to tell us what is real and what is not? And who is the "chosen one" which will present the facts? If you want out of 3D this is what you have to be thinking. There is nothing to loose and everything to gain.
    Who are we waiting for?


    Since I’ve been on this site people have come and gone making similar claims but never stated any plans/measures/or ideas that will fix our dire situation. They just come in saying they are this and that, waste great time by using the place as a hangout then disappear once their theories/ideas are met with rationality. The world is crumbling everyday, people are suffering everyday and the more people ignore this the more I feel there's some hidden devious force controlling those that can actually help by keeping them preoccupied with indefinable material. Imo, I think a few agents come in to make these claims just to stir up the nest, disempowering some people by stating empty claims (knowingly or not). In actuality, I really don’t mind, I just want to see/know when these beings are going to roll up their sleeves and start doing what they say they can do. As I stated earlier, I don’t really see any evidence of such beings, I just see more humans becoming aware of self and their suppressed abilities, and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest otherwise. Perhaps the awakening to self makes some people feel that way.

    Hopefully when I finish explaining my star seed story in conjunction with the solution, you will be more convinced that we do exist and some of us are making attempts to help. Part of the risk we take when we agree to come to Earth is that we are subjected to the same things you are...which means we can get caught up in Earthly experiences that pull us away from our true purpose for being here which is to help in the transition. I have no idea why some souls begin to punch through the veil of amnesia and some don't make it past the start line. But we don't seem to be given any favoritism compared to other souls that I can see or am aware of.

    I'm not making fun of you, but your comments above sound like a typical stereotype response that people are use to saying and believing. This is what we need to get away from.....Your decision above states that you are still in fear mode, and you are not comfortable stepping outside of the parameters of "preconceived misconceptions", based on what the collective masses would approve of according to the laws of a 3D society. If we keep with this mind-set we will never advance. Just to be clear, there is no tone in my post or intentions of superiority. My goal is to share what I have learned with others so that we may all grow and understand together by learning from each others experiences and the Avalon forum is the appropriate place this very topic should be discussed without ridicule and judgment.

    I’m not sure what your definition of fear is, but here are some of mines. Fear is when you are too afraid to stand up to the small handful of oppressors in this world. Fear is when you are afraid to look at the world in its current state and pretend it’s suppose to be that way. Fear is hesitating to walk up to the police/military and tell them who their real enemies are. Fear is when you ignore reality and force yourself to believe in another one that you nor anyone else can prove exist. Fear is knowing/pretending life is an illusion but still hesitate to partake and change the illusion. Fear is looking for excuses before remedies. Fear is nothing but dealing with the unknown, but when you face fear it vanishes.

    I bold-ed the two sentences that I don't agree with. The first sentence is not a form of fear, imo. Other realities do exist. Many scientists have come forward to show that several dimensions/realities are in existence. You have to take into consideration that we do not have full use of our eyes, which means....you're not necessarily seeing everything that's happening around you. I'm sure you can google and find the information that backs what I'm saying. This post is all ready pretty long. A perfect example is looking at video tapes that capture things that the eye was not capable of seeing. Other realities exist and are held together by a set of beliefs that the collective masses agree upon. I will give a longer definition of dimension in my next post that hopefully will clarify better what I'm trying to say.

    In order to change your reality you have to step outside the one you're currently in; to me that doesn't necessarily mean one is operating in fear..it's quite the contrary. If you want to change your environment, how do you do that if you stay within the confines of what I refer to as a matrix? The saying - "Be the change you want to see" exemplifies how one can change their reality by stepping out of the belief systems of the one their in.

    Sentence two...Life is an illusion. When you understand that you are consciousness and not your body, your job or your experiences here on earth, you begin to realize that what's happening on this planet is only an illusion. You are merely a soul who reincarnates down in this "illusion" for soul growth and learning, but it's not really who your are. So what's happening here isn't real! But you cannot come to this conclusion if you are not of the "belief" that NDE's or reincarnation even exists.


    To be clear on my stance on this...
    This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

    I will answer these questions in further posts especially the one which will cover "the solution". I have no idea what the future is going to look like a year from now. All I can do is focus on what I want it to look like through the utilization of intentions. Assume the role so to speak, rather than waiting for another to do it for me. For all I know we could split into two different realities that encompass two separate planets, one thinking the other perished believing such silly thoughts of ascension, higher frequencies of love and light, while the other arrives on a planet that's the very reality they had envisioned and strived to create via their work toward promoting a shift in consciousness. My focus will be on the assumption role as I know the science is there to back what I all ready believe to be true.

    I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

    Peace
    Combing back through this to make sure I addressed all your questions....The underlined comments are me, then you responded in black and then I answered in blue.

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    Description of star seeds and characteristics is coming up next.....

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    Jake at #39,,,! . congruent ,
    while i have not had time to note the faff bt p.o.mind & w.r.one,..cause i didn't have p.o.minds disagreement with principle of material
    (..though in one way p.o.m [didn't read everything, just one line i caught]..yes many theories,..the most fascinating i find to be astrology...my no.1 hypothesis about the state of this world is that it does not run like it must..instead following of status-quo takes place,misplaced solutions, but if astrology can be such a good indicator of what the person is, then kabalic opinion must be right, all this must be illusion..how else could planets preside so strongly over *characteristics {*source}.... yes so peace.o.m i've just chosen to stand back and see if this can justify my time or whether there is gold to mine from this area, so i am allowing the central characters like ww too to __ we say convince me {for what ever we are, still all of us share the experience of central conversation})

    yes jake, ...our character subsets .philosophically speaking, they are broader than the phase of this dimension

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