Barack Obama 2010

[Kulapops]

... Or they'lll WHAT ??

Give him a giant wedgie ????

Under what nature can you threaten the president of the US ? You must either have a very large army... or some very naughty pictures... and no... staring at a 16 year old's behind will not really stand up as blackmail...

Face it. There will be no disclosure. Not today.. not tomorrow and not on Monday either.

Neither in October.., November.. or even as a Christmas present in December.

Make that ditto for 2011... 2012... 2015... and maybe even 2020.

Double that for 2030.. erm... 2040... and possibly 2050.

By which time we might have little ships of our own.. and you just might be able to go out nights looking for yourself....

Meanwhile... doesn't your cat need feeding ? And how about that pile of dishes next to the sink ??

Going to give us disclosure on THAT one ???

K

[Etherios]

he say if not he will go to other countries to expose this...

[Lost Soul]

And some members here believe he is a light worker.

[irishspirit]

good find op.

Obama, in my view, has always shown himself to be an NWO puppet from day one.

I would truely hope that there are not many people here that see this man as a light worker.

[sjkted]

Posted by SaiCO (here)
Good observation.
If you dig into history, you'll see JFK was no saint. Adulterer for one (not that it bothers me much, but still, shows mentality). Drug addict for another, often zonked out on painkillers and amphetamines, even during important crisises. Sure , that is "black legend" but still, even if half of this was true, guy was serious problem, bordering on unpredictable. Add to that little to no real experience in foreign policy and you got explosive cocktail.
Yet, he got shot before he did any real damage.
And he is remembered as saint.
If something will happen to mr. O. his failures will be again diminished by "change" he tried to do, but had no time to finish. What we know now would be drowned in sea of hagiography.

So I say, better he'll be healthy and alive, cause his incompetence damages the system. It makes people ask question you'd never ask if you'd have saint as leader. Like : why the hell we need leaders in first place?

Also, think who would be mr.O's LBJ .....

I agree, JFK was no saint.

I've thought about this a bit and have come up with two possibilities:

(1) He knew they were going to try to assassinate him, so he decided to go public first, possibly even as an attempt to save his live by disclosing information so that everyone would know who was responsible.

(2) He had a change in his moral compass and decided he could no longer be part of the system.

--sjkted

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Posted by Lost Soul (here)
I don't want to see any physical harm come to him either, but he's done everything Wall Street wanted him to do and spent more money in his first year in office than the eight years of the previous drunken sailor. FYI - I am neither republican nor democrat and have been independent for over two decades. Jaybee - you're welcomed to my share of Kool-aid.

This is the part I don't get. Why would anyone assassinate him? He's done absolutely everything they've asked him to do and everything to subvert us the people. I'm a non-voter myself and aside from ideology, I would be willing to support anyone who simply had their heart in the right place.

--sjkted

[sjkted]

Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
Well, just look at the Tea Party and how they've managed to turned people even further against Obama.

Yes, I know, he's made a lot of missteps. We do not need to be reminded of this 24/7. However, the last thing I want to see (and I'm sure that others want to see) is genuine harm towards this man.

This is really the problem with the Tea Party. They've hit the tip of the iceburg on what's going on and have decided to go down the mad as hell and not going to take any more of it route. And while they're all doing that, they decide to support the system by voting in new candidates. And of course, the people who they vote in will absolutely, positively fulfill their campaign promises. They won't be able to make any progress until they get the full truth. A vote for a candidate is a vote for the system. It doesn't matter whether you vote democrat or republican, the results will be the same.

--sjkted

[sojorner]

Is it my imagination....in his speech he said wall street bailouts for Bush...then corrected it....

Did anyone catch that?

Soj

[sojorner]

between 1:10 and 1:20

Freudian slip....perhaps..

Soj

[sjkted]

That's funny. I couldn't get past the BS the first time to hear it. Thanks for pointing it out.

--sjkted

[shadowstalker]

Posted by jaybee (here)
Obama has to be careful that he himself doesn't get assassinated.....?

Think how easy it would be to set America on fire....by doing this.

This is why I am of the opinion... that..... thinking bad thoughts about him...lowers his protection.

Wasn't that one of the plans to happen, to ensue martial law, I heard that a while back

[sjkted]

If that were the case, what would be the case for a state of emergency? Certainly, he would be replaced by another puppet in prompt order. It's not like there would be rioting in the street or civil disorder.

--sjkted

[Bea]

I wonder how well the knockers & armchair critics of Barrack Obama would do if they were President.
How would they deal with the powerful interests that are firmly against making any headway for the people of the US, or the rest of the world for that matter?
Do they even glimpse how powerful those interests are? How would they, as one person against so many with so much, try to do some good?
How well would they do knowing that the precedent of threat to their life is there in what happened to JFK. He was prepared to take the PTB on, judging by the kinds, of things he spoke about before he was assassinated.
The rest of the world, it seems, see how great Obama is & that the forces arraigned against him are enormous, but not so much in the US. Lots of petty criticisms that show no appreciation of just how difficult his task is.
All those armchair critics would melt before the onslaught this courageous & good man faces.
One man against the elite of world power. A very clever man who has to do the best he can in very complex and difficult circumstances.
How well would the armchair critics do?
How brave would they be?


In Australia we have had a better public health care system since the early 1970's than Obama was able to achieve with all that fierce opposition.
Our 'Medicare' has been a boon, it is a blessing. Working class & middle class people don't have to beggar themselves to get medical treatment & care.
I can't imagine how awful it must be to live in a society where affordable health care is not available to all people.

[frank samuel]

I really don't know if you can give a white hat to Obama in Health care yet, the reality is Health care is big business and lobbyist usually play both sides . I give you an example which bothers me people in the US people receiving Social Security retirement benefits or disability have to pay $110 a month for health care benefits , by the time the lobbyist are done in the white house retirees and disable folks receiving Social Security benefits will wind up paying more for a health care plan than they can already afford.

To be a politician you have to dance with the devil in this case the devil would be the lobbyist who buy the politicians to favor the companies they work for.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/au...lobs-a05.shtml

[freespirit]

Posted by irishspirit (here)
Interesting video here.

Who is he talking about? Is it possible that he could be trying a JFK? and smash open and turn on his overlords?

Or, is he talking about the republicans?

Wow, thanks Irish that is one interesting remark and not a slip of the tongue.

[Bea]

frank samuel, I see what you point out as part of the enormous challenge Obama has on his hands, and I laud him for even trying to do something to help people on low incomes have affordable access to health care. Who else is doing it?

The amount the pharmaceutical companies rake in are staggering & it translates into power & influence.

Big pharma very much has it's tentacles here too (in Oz). One area it has major influence is our supposedly independent Therapeutic Goods Administration.
A few years ago the TGA shut down a thriving Australian owned business that manufactured most of the vitamins, minerals, herbal preparations etc sold by various companies here.
The reason was because a woman supposedly got sick (nothing permanent or life threatening ) from taking a 'travel calm' preparation for motion sickness. The TGA moved in swiftly & closed down the factory, & it was duly splashed all across the news in very dramatic, alarmist terms.There was never any legal action taken against the company.
I read an interview with the man who started the company a couple of years afterwards & he said the TGA's actions ruined the business & him financially.

Yet this year there have been cases of children under 5 having convulsions & in one case a death from this years' flu vaccine ( the death they won't admit is a direct result of the vaccination but it was broadly hinted at in the press coverage).
Some states here now have recommended that that particular vaccine not be given to under 5's. But there is hardly a murmur from the TGA who only seem to have anything to say about it in the press when they're specifically asked. They make non committal noises & cautious statements then.
But that company they closed down (Pan Pharmaceuticals..even though they weren't making regular pharmaceutical drugs) never reopened. We had shortages of vitamin etc supplements for weeks afterwards until alternative sources were established.

I work as a psychiatric nurse & hand out big pharma meds as a matter of routine to patients. I was staggered a while back when I noticed that the hospital pharmacy that dispensed the drug had printed the price on the dosing label they affix. One 50 ml bottle of an anti psychotic drug called Clopine cost $365. Depending on what dose the patient is prescribed one of those bottles can easily be used in or under a week.
From what I understand, when a drug company develops a new drug or a new form of that drug (eg in syrup or in depot form ie long acting injection) they get the rights to it for a period of time & can charge what they like, it seems, until those rights expire. They would claim they have research & development costs to recover, but b/c of the huge profits they make, I remain highly skeptical about their pricing. Basically I see the whole industry being about money, power & control.

[rgray222]

There are those that understand the true power structure and who is calling the shots and there are those that do not have a clue!

[Luke]

Posted by Bea (here)
From what I understand, when a drug company develops a new drug or a new form of that drug (eg in syrup or in depot form ie long acting injection) they get the rights to it for a period of time & can charge what they like, it seems, until those rights expire. They would claim they have research & development costs to recover, but b/c of the huge profits they make, I remain highly skeptical about their pricing. Basically I see the whole industry being about money, power & control.

It is effect of Patent Law. Given the patent office is prone to awards patents haphazardly (see recent patenting of "system shutdown icon"), they are cheap (for company) way to deny market to any concurrence. Sure patent proponents would give you tirade about "rewarding inventors for time spent in labs" and else... but truth is, it's simple arbitrary awarded monopoly for given good, stemming right from mercantilists agenda. But it is discussion for another place and time.

(funny)"Money" and control are just other faces of power.

Also, one need to note that remedies produced in chemical industry are often worse than diseases they supposedly cure, but on the other hand too many "alternative" practitioners have zero credibility.

Point is, as other facets of our reality, "medical care" is just another carefully designed control system - not for benefit those who supposedly it serves, but for those seting quotas and redirecting funds. Who cares about serving millions of individuals with good product, if you can have same financial effect by pleasing few bureaucrats?

It's self propelling system : politicians (all) - govt contractor companies, and it's always those without connections/pull that are presented with bill for actions of those groups, and those actions are always sold as "protecting the poor".

And too many people fall for pretty words.

[observer]

I can only lead you to the voices of reason....

I can't force you to listen to their words....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI

Disclaimer:
This video is being offered for exposure to the opinions expressed by John Pilger. There is no suggestion the viewer should associate Mr. Pilger's opinions with the promoters of the video.

[jaybee]

Posted by Bea (here)
I wonder how well the knockers & armchair critics of Barrack Obama would do if they were President.
How would they deal with the powerful interests that are firmly against making any headway for the people of the US, or the rest of the world for that matter?
Do they even glimpse how powerful those interests are? How would they, as one person against so many with so much, try to do some good?
How well would they do knowing that the precedent of threat to their life is there in what happened to JFK. He was prepared to take the PTB on, judging by the kinds, of things he spoke about before he was assassinated.
The rest of the world, it seems, see how great Obama is & that the forces arraigned against him are enormous, but not so much in the US. Lots of petty criticisms that show no appreciation of just how difficult his task is.
All those armchair critics would melt before the onslaught this courageous & good man faces.
One man against the elite of world power. A very clever man who has to do the best he can in very complex and difficult circumstances.
How well would the armchair critics do?
How brave would they be?
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THANKYOU.

I absolutely agree.

Sometimes I feel like I'm in The Truman Show...when I support Obama, here.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=GYj2m1yVpGU

[sjkted]

The problem is that most people act like the President is the guy in power who makes the decisions, who calls the shots, and leads the country. It is common sense, but it is faulty thinking. A great explanation of this would be the movie Liar, Liar with Jim Carrey. He gets put into the spokesman position too quickly to realize what he is a party to. And then when he finds out, it's hard to break loose because he's in on it and just as culpable as those who knew what was happening. The Presdient's role would be better explained as the Chief Spokesman of the country. He smiles, delivers speeches, "negotiates", explains why we need things like ObamaCare, etc. But, make big decisions? Absolutely not.

If I were President, the only thing ethical to do would be to make a JFK-style speech, say goodbye to everyone I care about, and wait for my physical demise.

--sjkted