Here and Now...What's Happening?

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
How can anyone who is shared in the village be deemed not a villager? Because ulli says it's so? I'm sorry, I really am, to be stirring stuff up. I'm not holding ulli to blame, we are all adults here, but from where I stand abob was a villager from the minute he first posted here, and the drama seems to have started with ulli's snappy response to jenci.

So what do you want to see done? As a next step. Give me a clue.
Be specific. I have no problem with forgiveness. There are others involved, though.
What about them?

PS first... It took me too long to write this post. I see there's a lot ahead of mine. I haven't read them for fear of not posting these suggestion:

The Village door is always open. It may take time to heal things. Everyone’s inner timing unfolds in it's proper sequence. Rushing it along will create knots. On some levels, they never left. I see them close by. Time. Patience. Healing. That’s what it’ll take.

I'm still working out the bugs between preachy, teachy, patronizing and helpful info, but I figure that each can make the decision to ignore my posts or even use the ignore button on me.

Lastly, Ulli give yourself permission to be a villager. It’s unfair for me to expect you to be the watch person. When you take on that role, it may cause laziness in me to stand up when it’s needed.

Respectfully,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Flash]

Posted by Sierra (here)

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Once, I ruined a hand loomed rainbow colored mohair throw rug (full size couch throwover). It's not like that you get to do that everyday.

Listening...

My mother had made it, and it was adorning her couch at her place.

That was the last time I drank and got drunk. (age 19) I drank tequila, you see.... Ruined the couch too.

Didn't even know where I was. that place, when drunk, that is beyond conscious comprehension. When I came to, as they say, it certainly wasn't any better. She was out of town and I was using her place to crash. In this case, literally.

Had a feeling it was a story like that. Glad your relationship with Mom survived that bump in the road.

Love,
Heather

Nah. I was visualizing the gorgeous rainbow mohair throw being thrown in the wash and coming out a dirty mauve color, about 2' X 2' shrunken down ... lol

Nah Nah... I was visualizing the mystical Carmody sitting on the beautiful rainbow mohaire throw that he had pitch on the floor, in deep meditation, so deep that his body started to emit intense heat and the mohair throw burned out. lol

[ulli]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I admit, I'm not 100% clear on the meaning of this....

*reaching for boxing gloves, just in case *

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Well, I'd like to see a place where anyone can post and share what they have, and take what they need. We are a helluvea a long way from gender wars, and that's a good thing, given what's transpired since, but so many have invested so much positive energy into this thread and into themselves that you can feel it, that should not be in danger, not even from you. I'm not making suggestions, today, just observations.

I want to make it clear to everyone who sees this thread that there is no enmity between me and ulli. *waves at all the guests*

A) not yet
B) PL and I go back a long way
C) oh really...you wish....rolling up her sleeves and putting on boxing gloves

Take your pick for an answer.

See everyone?? This is what I have to deal with, day after day, after day....

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Well, I'd like to see a place where anyone can post and share what they have, and take what they need. We are a helluvea a long way from gender wars, and that's a good thing, given what's transpired since, but so many have invested so much positive energy into this thread and into themselves that you can feel it, that should not be in danger, not even from you. I'm not making suggestions, today, just observations.

I want to make it clear to everyone who sees this thread that there is no enmity between me and ulli. *waves at all the guests*

A) not yet
B) PL and I go back a long way
C) oh really...you wish....rolling up her sleeves and putting on boxing gloves

Take your pick for an answer.

I've painted a big smiley face on my screen to sit where Ulli's picture used to be...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I admit, I'm not 100% clear on the meaning of this....

*reaching for boxing gloves, just in case *

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Well, I'd like to see a place where anyone can post and share what they have, and take what they need. We are a helluvea a long way from gender wars, and that's a good thing, given what's transpired since, but so many have invested so much positive energy into this thread and into themselves that you can feel it, that should not be in danger, not even from you. I'm not making suggestions, today, just observations.

I want to make it clear to everyone who sees this thread that there is no enmity between me and ulli. *waves at all the guests*

A) not yet
B) PL and I go back a long way
C) oh really...you wish....rolling up her sleeves and putting on boxing gloves

Take your pick for an answer.

See everyone?? This is what I have to deal with, day after day, after day....

This one felt like a joke to me, Ulli. My suggestion before was to use a simile because it's hard when tone and visual clues are missing.

PS In case, you haven't noticed, I've got a sh/t load of them. I'm a good sharer.

[PurpleLama]

Rocky, I must say, it's good to have you around.

Hahahaha!

You might start drawing fire there, buddy....

[PurpleLama]

B) anyone with the patience to read through twenty thousand posts knows the answer to this one

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Once, I ruined a hand loomed rainbow colored mohair throw rug (full size couch throwover). It's not like that you get to do that everyday.

Listening...

My mother had made it, and it was adorning her couch at her place.

That was the last time I drank and got drunk. (age 19) I drank tequila, you see.... Ruined the couch too.

Didn't even know where I was. that place, when drunk, that is beyond conscious comprehension. When I came to, as they say, it certainly wasn't any better. She was out of town and I was using her place to crash. In this case, literally.

Had a feeling it was a story like that. Glad your relationship with Mom survived that bump in the road.

Love,
Heather

Nah. I was visualizing the gorgeous rainbow mohair throw being thrown in the wash and coming out a dirty mauve color, about 2' X 2' shrunken down ... lol

Nah Nah... I was visualizing the mystical Carmody sitting on the beautiful rainbow mohaire throw that he had pitch on the floor, in deep meditation, so deep that his body started to emit intense heat and the mohair throw burned out. lol

as for what happened during the blackout, Carmody was running through the village wearing a rug and caught the attention of...





he dropped the rug and ran...

[1inMany]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Heather2012 (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Once, I ruined a hand loomed rainbow colored mohair throw rug (full size couch throwover). It's not like that you get to do that everyday.

Listening...

My mother had made it, and it was adorning her couch at her place.

That was the last time I drank and got drunk. (age 19) I drank tequila, you see.... Ruined the couch too.

Didn't even know where I was. that place, when drunk, that is beyond conscious comprehension. When I came to, as they say, it certainly wasn't any better. She was out of town and I was using her place to crash. In this case, literally.

Had a feeling it was a story like that. Glad your relationship with Mom survived that bump in the road.

Love,
Heather

Nah. I was visualizing the gorgeous rainbow mohair throw being thrown in the wash and coming out a dirty mauve color, about 2' X 2' shrunken down ... lol

Nah Nah... I was visualizing the mystical Carmody sitting on the beautiful rainbow mohaire throw that he had pitch on the floor, in deep meditation, so deep that his body started to emit intense heat and the mohair throw burned out. lol

Nah, nah, nah. I was visualizing the laid back Carmody falling asleep smokin' a fat one...which promtly caught it on fire. lol

PurpleLama, I'm backin' ya dude...

Much Love, Village

[Flash]

Purple lama, I understand half of what you want to mean, and it may have a mean biais, i am not sure. "Hoes and porno" saved you once, I decided to wait. Well, I waited and I am at the same place. Wondering if you are just kid ding around or lost your wizard under your name, remainng with the redneck.

If your deep will is to be be nice, loving, show it because I am confused.

[Belle]

Posted by ulli (here)
Each person must map their own next step.
It cannot be done by others.
The thing with forgiveness depends on dialogue between the parties involved.
Anyone who thinks that I ought to run after the two people in question
has not yet figured out that the are specific procedures.

So what if I were to ask bob to return? What about the others who felt that he had behaved wrong?
This is a process that must start with him. If he shows any consideration at all
and I still hold resentment then the burden is on me, isn't it?
Then we can really start talking about the injustice done to him.

Please people, try to understand and get above your own emotional levels
and sort the wheat from the chaff in your own thinking processes.
All calls for unity, especially if one party is constantly demanding more than can be given,
can only lead to more confusion and conflict.

Wow, I was calmed down and overlooking much for the sake of peace in the village....until this post.

You are absolutely right, ulli. I have never even considered that there may be "specific procedures" to forgiveness.

And yes, by choice I, for one, am ruled by the heart (not emotion) much more than the mind...which is sharper than some may think (no need to go into IQ's now, is there?). Logic tells me that if the goal is reconciliation and forgiveness, then it doesn't matter who started what or who was right or wrong...it is more important to reach out than to allow some kind of false pride to stand in the way of the goal. Procedures be damned!

If the goal is to come out on top as tho' this was a competition, then by all means make them grovel...make them play by your rules. I wouldn't...but others might.

imo, you had an emotional, gut reaction to Jenci's post...feeling your position here was being threatened and going into defensive posture.... and are now trying to rationalize it all away. Fine. Do what you believe you must to protect your own self-image.

Having a hard time holding my Scorpio side back and needing to clear the bullsh!t. I'm amazed no one else has smelled it. Come on..."All calls for unity...can only lead to more confusion and conflict"? What kind of logic is that? Someone else could use sorting the "wheat from the chaff in your own thinking processes." I do not appreciate being patronized, especially by false logic.

If this post gets me banned from this thread, then so be it. One of my triggers has been pushed and I can no longer pretend the elephant in the room does not exist.

Sorry, Villagers...my inner bitch slipped out. I will put sweet, mundane Belle back on, blinders and all, and join others in pretending everything is fine.

The show is over. Please go back to your regularly scheduled program.

[Guest]

Posted by astrid (here)
My Mars is conj mars at my 3.33 today,
man, seriously if i have any more energy i think i will combust,
What with the moon and the sun, and now mars..
holy moly.

I'm totally there too Astrid.

Add in Uranus I feel like the Electric Light Orchestra



Love

Nora

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Flash (here)
Purple lama, I understand half of what you want to mean, and it may have a mean biais, i am not sure. "Hoes and porno" saved you once, I decided to wait. Well, I waited and I am at the same place. Wondering if you are just kid ding around or lost your wizard under your name, remainng with the redneck.

If your deep will is to be be nice, loving, show it because I am confused.

I had to use my dictionary on that one because I was surprised, too, Flash. I chalked it up to trying to break the ice and get the wheel of healing a-goin'.

Another example of a good time to use a smilie.

[1inMany]

Truth is, no one that is/was not involved does not know the extent of what happened. We have a few posts that are public. That's it. We do not know any private history or any private exchanges or the lack thereof. We do not know what/why each person said/did not say/reacted/did not react and/or what each of those involved emotionally brought to that exchange.

I am not pretending it didn't happen, whatever "it" was, but I do not have the magic wand in this as I'm effected but not a principal. The only thing I know to do is to share what I have, here.

I wish I did have the magic wand. Maybe some day...

Much Love,

[Rocky_Shorz]

Belle, when a healer is in pain, send love...

she is under a shield right now protected from further damage, we're all buds here and any attacks of negative energy will be rebounded, all of you be careful please...

I don't step into the fray often, well ok maybe I do...

but new and full moons, I'm drawn in more than I should be...

it has nothing to do with anyone in this thread, and words on a page should mean nothing between friends...

[PurpleLama]

Ok flash, long before this thread there was another thread, where I suggested to another member who is now unsuscribed that he offer forgiveness instead of demanding apology, and everyone took two things from that thread, timelines and ho'oponopono. I was at work soon after talking about what all I'd learned about ho'oponopono, and one of my coworkers who is more secular minded said it sounded like "hoes and porno" and one day I shared this with the village and we all had a laugh about it. Just a little irreverent fun, but when you see anyone around here say hoes and porno, it means ho'oponopono.

[ulli]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I admit, I'm not 100% clear on the meaning of this....

*reaching for boxing gloves, just in case *

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Well, I'd like to see a place where anyone can post and share what they have, and take what they need. We are a helluvea a long way from gender wars, and that's a good thing, given what's transpired since, but so many have invested so much positive energy into this thread and into themselves that you can feel it, that should not be in danger, not even from you. I'm not making suggestions, today, just observations.

I want to make it clear to everyone who sees this thread that there is no enmity between me and ulli. *waves at all the guests*

A) not yet
B) PL and I go back a long way
C) oh really...you wish....rolling up her sleeves and putting on boxing gloves

Take your pick for an answer.

See everyone?? This is what I have to deal with, day after day, after day....

This one felt like a joke to me, Ulli. My suggestion before was to use a simile because it's hard when tone and visual clues are missing.

No more smilies, I have decided just now.
This is the risk people take.
It is an exercise thread, remember? A totally new concept, and therefore we will all mess up at times.
People exchanging their energies...

But we learn to take responsibility for our own projections and attitudes towards other people.
No more like and dislike...just watch what you perceive in another. This now goes for all of us.

So people want me to accept all and everyone the way they are?
What if I start asking the same of them?
Can they still love me, even if they are uncertain whether I'm being serious or joking?

No more guarantees, not more clarifications, no more enabling nor mollycoddling.

Those who know me already also know that I have a dry sense of humor which they can then interpret in a variety of ways.
That interpretation will then tell them how they see me, not how I am.
And that judgement will then tell them who they are.

P.S. when I wrote that post that had everyone so furious at me I wasn't angry at all,
but wrote it in a teasing tone, and felt really sure she would not take offense. To take offense was then her choice.
People pinned onto it what they wished to see. This post was mild compared to what I see being sent at people on the forum every day, and even some of the things I had to swallow today.


Soon going to take a nap...brain is heating up from overwork...and there is smoke coming out of my ears.

[1inMany]

Ha!!!! PL!!!! I can spell hoes and porno without looking it up every time! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Rocky_Shorz]

points at the cabin on the seashore and smiles...

enjoy your nap...

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Belle (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Each person must map their own next step.
It cannot be done by others.
The thing with forgiveness depends on dialogue between the parties involved.
Anyone who thinks that I ought to run after the two people in question
has not yet figured out that the are specific procedures.

So what if I were to ask bob to return? What about the others who felt that he had behaved wrong?
This is a process that must start with him. If he shows any consideration at all
and I still hold resentment then the burden is on me, isn't it?
Then we can really start talking about the injustice done to him.

Please people, try to understand and get above your own emotional levels
and sort the wheat from the chaff in your own thinking processes.
All calls for unity, especially if one party is constantly demanding more than can be given,
can only lead to more confusion and conflict.

Wow, I was calmed down and overlooking much for the sake of peace in the village....until this post.

You are absolutely right, ulli. I have never even considered that there may be "specific procedures" to forgiveness.

And yes, by choice I, for one, am ruled by the heart (not emotion) much more than the mind...which is sharper than some may think (no need to go into IQ's now, is there?). Logic tells me that if the goal is reconciliation and forgiveness, then it doesn't matter who started what or who was right or wrong...it is more important to reach out than to allow some kind of false pride to stand in the way of the goal. Procedures be damned!

If the goal is to come out on top as tho' this was a competition, then by all means make them grovel...make them play by your rules. I wouldn't...but others might.

imo, you had an emotional, gut reaction to Jenci's post...feeling your position here was being threatened and going into defensive posture.... and are now trying to rationalize it all away. Fine. Do what you believe you must to protect your own self-image.

Having a hard time holding my Scorpio side back and needing to clear the bullsh!t. I'm amazed no one else has smelled it. Come on..."All calls for unity...can only lead to more confusion and conflict"? What kind of logic is that? Someone else could use sorting the "wheat from the chaff in your own thinking processes." I do not appreciate being patronized, especially by false logic.

If this post gets me banned from this thread, then so be it. One of my triggers has been pushed and I can no longer pretend the elephant in the room does not exist.

Sorry, Villagers...my inner bitch slipped out. I will put sweet, mundane Belle back on, blinders and all, and join others in pretending everything is fine.

The show is over. Please go back to your regularly scheduled program.

That's funny, and not shot at you Belle, but I find when my blinders are on is the problem, because then I get caught up in what I can't see, which usually causes misunderstandings and having to fill in the view with the things I cannot see, and that is what starts the problems. Just my 2 cents