Kissinger, US intelligence community endorse “World Without Israel”

[ThePythonicCow]

From Iran's Press TV:

Henry Kissinger and sixteen American intelligence agencies agree that in the near future, Israel will no longer exist.

The New York Post quotes Kissinger “word for word”: In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.

Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified. He is not saying that Israel is in danger, but could be saved if we just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with our military. He is not saying that if we elect Netanyahu's old friend Mitt Romney, Israel could somehow be salvaged. He is not saying that if we bomb Iran, Israel might survive. He is not offering a way out. He is simply stating a fact: In 2022, Israel will no longer exist.

The US Intelligence Community agrees, though perhaps not on the precise 2022 expiration date. Sixteen US intelligence agencies with a combined budget over USD70 billion have issued an 82-page analysis titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East.”

More at Kissinger, US intelligence community endorse “World Without Israel” (Press TV; Sep 30, 2012)

[Rocky_Shorz]

with the way things are going for Iran, they'll finish the Nuke just in time for Israel to disappear... DOH!!!

might as well drop the attempt, and wait 10 more years without having to put up with Sanctions.

[Snoweagle]

Kissingers statement does not imply the eradication of the state of Israel in its self though could be construed as an indication of change. What kind of change should be of concern to us.
Afterall, we are still facing the prospect of world war, plague and pestilence purported to be inflicted on humanity by Zionist corporations from the industrial military complex, pharmaceutical and genetically modified food products driven by the financial overseer warlords of the Elite.

Until the Georgia Guidestones are demolished with grand global pomp and circumstance then I fail to see anything productive in this statement taken at face value.

We should review this statement merely as a desperate claim to the timescale put on the genocidal plans to come to fruition. In that, we can expect massive disruption in the western world of such calamity that all else in recorded history pales into insignificance.

Henry Kissinger is Jewish. His Phd extolled the Jewish deceit portraying the methodology of the Protocols of Zion to infiltrate all forms of governance, industry and commerce to maintain totalitarian control which we see all across the globe. The western governments, the UN, the EU and the like are heavily mentored by Zionist influence. And now it is common knowledge that the Rothschild are the main instigators to this madness. (you can bet the French Rothschilds leveraged the recent decision to reduce spending by 30bn on welfare benefits and increase war fund investment by 30bn, no doubt to the consternation of the French public).

Whatever happens within the next ten years is irrelevant as the Zionists will continue, for a thousand years if necessary, in their phucked up crusade for global dominance. What we are witnessing now, in my opinion, is just a taster for what is about to pass.

Lets be absolutely clear what Zionism is, all the Global Royal Elite and Freemasonry. Jewry are the secular slaves to the pardigm of elitism.

So all in all, Kissingers statement is an announcement that the time line has changed and will now be assaulted once again during the next ten years. We will never have any peace until we the people stand up and contest the vile statutory platforms that Zionism ensnares us.

[Cidersomerset]

Lets be absolutely clear what Zionism is, all the Global Royal Elite and Freemasonry. Jewry are the secular slaves to the pardigm of elitism.

I thought the idea was to re establish Israel, rebuild Solomons temple 'Zion' only to be destroyed in the rapture as per revolations,
and these Zionist elites were playing this out as a major drama to satify their blood/power lust at humanities expence !!

Or is that over simplifying it , and if the agenda is near what Kissinger is reffering to Israel and the middle east may have gone up
in flame in a nuclear armageddon by 2022..

Which is basically what you are reffering to I think. Snow eagle

[avid]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09...-mossad-psyop/

“Post Israel” 82 Page Report Bogus Mossad Psyop

from Veterans Today.
BTW - Henry Kissinger is a dual Israeli/USA passport holder.....

Since the debacle for Israel at the UN meeting, the “Wylie Coyote” Netanyahu presentation, the failed “walkout” during Ahmadinejahd’s speech and the Obama “thumbs down” on “red line” demands, Israel has turned to its long list of infiltrators to attempt to salvage World War III and Mitt Romney.
First of all, the stories about a secret 82 pages report on titled: Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East, is a false flag. There is only one format for such a document and that is a “National Intelligence Assessment.” No such request has been made, no assessment received by any source and there is no client for such a document. The answer is simple, this is a “con.”

much more on link....

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by avid (here)
First of all, the stories about a secret 82 pages report on titled: Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East, is a false flag. There is only one format for such a document and that is a “National Intelligence Assessment.” No such request has been made, no assessment received by any source and there is no client for such a document. The answer is simple, this is a “con.”

If true, and it may well be, the above is important.

It casts doubt on the reports of an 82-page analysis titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East”.

I have noticed that www.veteranstoday.com, the source of this analysis, is a fairly reliable supporter of Obama and opponent of the Zionists of Israel. I tend to want a "pox on both their houses", so trust veteranstoday for opposing Zionism, but doubt them for supporting Obama.

About the only thing that seems clear to me in this mess so far is that there is a major split over this, and that likely most of what we're being told either way is propaganda.

As to whether this pro vs anti Zionist conflict is yet another staged divide and conquer manipulation by some über elitists behind the scenes, or whether it represents a genuine division in those elitists (or both!) ... that I wish I knew, but I've no idea.

[sigma6]

In court cases there is a lot of communication by hidden signals, and eye contact and certain 'understandings'. The prosecutor is like the catcher in baseball, cuing the judge/magistrate (pitcher) But I have also seen in some cases where the party making an appearance is gaining an upper hand and the court is losing control, they will start to speak out to each other, out of desperation to keep up, and you will hear unbelievable things, which confirm many of the things that we study... for example I have heard the prosecutor state to a flabberghasted judge (she was speechless) "your honour your silence is agreement!..." (hint, hint...) or the judge said out loud to a clerk, "you have to put down 'Larry' (name provided, even though it wasn't on the Birth Certificate), etc, all kinds of things which exposed their hand if you had done any previous research on it...

Anyway my point is, everything is a sophisticated 'game' where public communication is but one level, but when things move too fast (like is happening today) they will fall back on just shouting out to each other, and this may be something like that... a 'shout out' saying "hey, if we don't get our act into gear, this is where it is heading... respond!..." So we are witnessing what appears to be a lot of unusual events, news, incidences that appear to make 'no sense'... consider these 'cracks' in their elaborate schemes, and look closer, with a discerning eye... it means we are getting to them, money isn't the solution to everything, speed of thought is what rules the day...

[Snoweagle]

The Global Elite are descendants of the Pharoahs.
The Phararonic Priests were the "secret government" which manifests today as Freemasonry on a global scale.
Judaism was created during the Exodus during which the twelve tribes "stole" the Ark of the Covenant.
This defines the relationship for the last 3000yrs

Solomons Temple was a copy of the temple built by Pharoah Akhenaten in the magnificent "new" city of Akhet-Aten established to satisfy those who chose to worship one god. It was from this city eventually the population were evicted on their "exodus". Judaism did not exist as we know it at that time. This started the Exodus. The Pharaoh agreed they could have their own land somewhere else but effectively not in Egypt of the time. This is the basis of the Jewish claim to promised land nonsense.

So off they go into the desert, the brother of Moses, Aaron who commanded one of the armies of Pharaoh escorted the hundreds of thousands on their journey but they had to wait around, as the land they wanted, belonged to someone else and the military of the Pharaoh was weak at that time to conquest it. Anyway the Pharaoh dies, so twelve tribes and a bunch of pharonic priests who were also on the exodus after "converting" went with them to pay forty days homage. During which, the 12 tribes stole the Ark of the Covenant (a very powerful super conductor that Khufu had removed during excavations into the pyramid a thousand years earlier) and ran back into the desert. The next forty years birthed Judaism and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It also birthed modern day Western written language, without which no contract would exist.

When Solomons temple was built in Jerusalem the Ark was hidden in its secret chambers later to be found by the Templars and returned to Europe and now resides in Switzerland. The Elites haven. So you can see how the circle of power and influence has come around to the events of today. And you can see the relationship and dependance on each other these three groups have which forms the background of our political global climate that impacts us today.

In 2016 is the super anniversary of Solomons temple. On secular Jewish websites you will find reference to "Coming out parties" celebrating something in the future. Personally have no idea to what that refers but speculation will be rife. You tube is full of crappy lies regarding this relationship and the history of Egypt all extolling Judaism as "Heaven sent". Which is the biggest LIE. This lie exists to keep Christians and Muslims fighting each other whilst the aforementioned triad claim ownership to EVERYTHING.

Kissinger is probably very correct in that statement. It may have been a global broadcast or secret message (just as the British did to the French resistance) advising current plans are being "rethought" and await new instructions covering the next ten years.

With regard rebuilding a new Solomons Temple. I believe would be testament to ALL of mankinds stupidity, especially Judaism.

Israel is a manifestation of a LIE purported by a mass murderer and his supporters and promulgated throughout history by enforced doctrine. The Elite know this, so why would they endorse such evil to thrive when they have always despised their very existence and what they have stood for. Israel has been a tool to distract the religious fervour away from the crimes the Elite. And even Jewry has fallen for it. The ULTIMATE BETRAYAL of all would be the Elites eradicating Israel.

Of course I will be considered a loon for this post so I recommend you read the following:
Book Title: Sabbah - Secrets of the Exodus - The Egyptian Origins of the Hebrew people
Authors: Messod and Roger Sabbah
Endorsed by: Rabbi marc Alain Ouaknim, interview in Evenement de France Soir, October 28, 2000

and also watch the following documentary of a great late researcher Laurence Gardner: Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark.

So Cidersomerset in answer to your question, yes, it is over simplifying things. The Elite now head the United Nations. The Copenhagen global climate contract failed and they are pissed. Israel still has a role to play to deflect attention away from the UN so maybe Israel has a stay of execution until WE are annihilated first. I do not know. The political chessboard will be redefined and maybe the ten years is its scope. Either way the background I have presented is by far the best representation of the truth which drives these BASTARDS than you will ever achieve reading the evil of the Bible, Koran or the Torah.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by avid (here)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09...-mossad-psyop/

“Post Israel” 82 Page Report Bogus Mossad Psyop

from Veterans Today.
BTW - Henry Kissinger is a dual Israeli/USA passport holder.....

Since the debacle for Israel at the UN meeting, the “Wylie Coyote” Netanyahu presentation, the failed “walkout” during Ahmadinejahd’s speech and the Obama “thumbs down” on “red line” demands, Israel has turned to its long list of infiltrators to attempt to salvage World War III and Mitt Romney.
First of all, the stories about a secret 82 pages report on titled: Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East, is a false flag. There is only one format for such a document and that is a “National Intelligence Assessment.” No such request has been made, no assessment received by any source and there is no client for such a document. The answer is simple, this is a “con.”

much more on link....

Thanks for this link. I missed this update, as it was at VT that I first heard of this supposed report.

I was unaware they had redefined it as a false-flag type operation. So many threads related to this scattered around that I have now contradicted myself a time or two as my awareness shifts with each new bit of info.

[Cidersomerset]

Of course I will be considered a loon for this post so I recommend you read the following:

No you won't alot of what you say i have come across from various sources , Its putting the final pieces of the puzzle together
which is difficult especially as they can change the picture/agenda/timescale as they go along.

What is being exposed is these geopoltitcal groups exist at all and have such ancient roots, possibly going further back
than the pharoahs .

[Snoweagle]

Yes I absolutely agree Cider. It does go back further; could tell you heaps more but wasted whilst we have these religious bigots and fundamentalists blocking good reason and understanding.

If only we could put down the religious scripts for five minutes and pay attention to truth, the hidden truth and broadcast this worldwide then we WILL make a difference. Gaia would be beautiful again.

Alas, peer fear prevents this so we have to keep pounding away with all the collateral damage that brings.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Thanks for this link. I missed this update, as it was at VT that I first heard of this supposed report.

I was unaware they had redefined it as a false-flag type operation. So many threads related to this scattered around that I have now contradicted myself a time or two as my awareness shifts with each new bit of info.

Veterans Today has redefined this 82 page report as a false flag operation by Mossad intended to scare up Jewish support for Romney ... that doesn't mean that Veterans Today is right in doing so ... or that they are wrong .

I think I had better abstain from final judgement on this "82 page World Without Israel report" for now. I can't tell yet which 90% of what I'm hearing is B.S.

[mountain_jim]

Yes Paul, VT publishes a very interesting and confounding set of information.

For me to try and get a handle on what's true (or possibly true) and just who's interests they are serving at various times is not possible at this point.

I do get that one of their main focuses is to counter the historically damaging Mossad/Israel/neocon influence over the US political system, media, and military.

[syrwong]

I remember LS said that Israel would be sacrificed in a future great war. That seemed so improbable, given that it has plenty of mighty arms in the arsenal, and the support of the superpower. Now with these unqualified words of Kissinger, this is becoming so probable!

[161803398]

I am usually the one to come out and say Obama is a complete puppet and probably a psychopath. But in the last month, I've been asking questions because he has been doing and saying things that I agree with and this is confusing. Of course, I don't read western news. For one thing, it was reported in the Syrian news, that Obama had promised to shut down Netan"yahoo"'s "noise" about Iran. While I don't actually believe much that Obama says, this comment seemed to be consistent with some of his actions. I see Obama as one who is trying very hard not to get his head blown off but he may be also trying to gather his forces together. The military establishment in the US, the CIA and the FBI have known since the beginning that the Zionazis were involved in 9/11 but no one can come out and say that. Everyone remembers what happened to Kennedy, of course.

[GrnEggsNHam]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
Everyone remembers what happened to Kennedy, of course.

The youth weren't(still aren't) given factual information about this event. I know because I was one of these youth(s)...

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
I am usually the one to come out and say Obama is a complete puppet and probably a psychopath. But in the last month, I've been asking questions because he has been doing and saying things that I agree with and this is confusing. Of course, I don't read western news. For one thing, it was reported in the Syrian news, that Obama had promised to shut down Netan"yahoo"'s "noise" about Iran. While I don't actually believe much that Obama says, this comment seemed to be consistent with some of his actions. I see Obama as one who is trying very hard not to get his head blown off but he may be also trying to gather his forces together. The military establishment in the US, the CIA and the FBI have known since the beginning that the Zionazis were involved in 9/11 but no one can come out and say that. Everyone remembers what happened to Kennedy, of course.

It's difficult to know what's in Obama's heart, since he has such a checkered past, it would be easy for the PTB to keep him in control through threats to out some of it. And, he is a great campaigner. But remember how many of his campaign promises he broke last time. He actually broke two before he was even elected. (said he wasn't going to take any corporate $$ and he did (Goldeman Sachs was his 2nd biggest contributor, which in my mind explains why he immediately appointed Geitner as our Treasurer - Geitner was a Republican with Goldman Sachs and Fed Reserve ties ); also Obama said he would vote against the bill that gave AT&T and others the right to listen to our phone calls - and he didn't). Soooooo, why would we believe anything he said this time?

I'm not a Romney fan either and would never vote for him. IMO they're both puppets. That being said, one never knows when an elected official might 'see the light' and really begin to work for humanity. I try to keep space for a miracle. Unfortunately in so many of our elections we are only voting for the lessor of two evils. Many are abstaining for this reason.

As for Israel, IMO it was established for a reason (to keep unrest in the Middle East) and if and when it no longer is serving a purpose - or if it gets out of the control (which it seems to be) of TPTB, it will be either be diminished in power or removed. One of the main boulevards in Tel Aviv is named Rothchild Blvd - that should tell us something.

All this being said, let's not confuse the Israeli people with the government.

[avid]

Posted by GrnEggsNHam (here)

Posted by 161803398 (here)
Everyone remembers what happened to Kennedy, of course.

The youth weren't(still aren't) given factual information about this event. I know because I was one of these youth(s)...

Kennedy tried to stop the banksters, and the technological secrecy, and just after his speech on those subjects - he was murdered. He wanted to be open and honest, and to uphold the constitution.... his VP was delighted as he was a co-conspirator in Kennedy's demise. Jacqueline Kennedy was terrified of the 'opposing forces' and knew it was an 'inside job'. Long story - loads on Google...

[161803398]

Kennedy broke away from his masters. He was intended to be a puppet but he stopped bobbing up and down and started trying to solve real problems. He also demanded an inspection of Dimona: http://ironlight.wordpress.com/2010/...eadly-secrets/

The only reasons why I believe it might be true that the American government has taken this position on Israel is that in the past month I read in the Syrian news that Obama had promised to ignore Netan"yahoo"'s "noise". This seemed to be consistent because I know he dislikes Netan"yahoo". Its also consistent with what I understand to be some of his political beliefs and some of his actions.

Also, I know that there are people in the military, the CIA and the FBI who know perfectly well that Mossad was involved in 9/11. But who could say that at the time without getting their head blown off?

I also believe this because its logical. It is the answer to many problems in the US, right now. America cannot go on being led around by its nose by Zionazis who are, obviously to me anyway, trying to destroy it or take it over. If I can see that; certainly the US military and the US government can see that. Also, it has seemed to me, for some time now, that it is possible that Obama might be saying nice doggie until he could get a big stick.

I don't know what the big stick is but part of it might be public opinion. If anyone recalls, in Canada, at least, our Zionazi PM Harper, wouldn't tolerate anyone defending Palestine. Our ZioNazi news wouldn't publish a word about Palestine. Anyone who said anything positive about Palestine was "anti-semitic". People are a little more educated now.

I am not all that happy about the Moslem Brotherhood BUT I am advised by people in Egypt, at least, that they will deal with this themselves.

[avid]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10...d-for-release/

An investigation done by independent intelligence organizations made up of former CIA, Army Intelligence and FBI personnel as published on June 18, 2010, discovered a plot between Israel, Georgia, Turkey and Azerbaijan to attack Iran.
At that time, Israeli planes were training in Turkey on terrain meant to simulate Iran. Israel would send over 8 planes at a time and 6 would return. Sources report that two would fly to Azerbaijan where Israel now occupies two former Soviet fighter bases.
Israel was building a secret air force in Azerbaijan. That “secret air force” is now no longer secret, it is public knowledge but few know its history or the threat to world peace this irresponsible act represents.
The bases were supplied through the Georgian port of Poti with cluster and bunker-buster bombs being delivered beginning June 10, 2010. Units of the Russian Navy observed the deliveries and reported the incident to a world press that suppressed the story. The ship delivering the illegal arms were flagged American, the USS Grapple.
In consultation with intelligence operatives, it was found that the USS Grapple had been leased to Germany who had then allowed Israel to use it to deliver bombs to the Black Sea port under American naval identity.

much much more on link - eye-opening stuff!