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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    I finally had time to watch this clip. Only after the second time did I see it in the proper context, and understood what this was about. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply...a bit of sarcasm there...which in some countries is considered culturally ok, while in others it is not, but taken at face value.

    A SNL (Saturday Night Live) type of TV show, where they cut a clip from an interview with the candidate, then took his reply to the question 'why was he running for office' which was "ambition, vanity, recognition...just like the average viewer of this show" ...he had clearly said this as a joke, but then the show put the pieces together in a new way, and gave it the semi-serious angle when the guy on the plane says at the end..."How can he say that??? Its about the country, not the people!!!
    The context in this clip is a SNL type of show, of course, as you can tell by the scene in the 'airplane' and the subsequent laughter. But the excerpt from the interview was from a serious show and the candidate really did address the average viewers of that serious TV format. You could still call it tongue-in-cheek or sarcasm, but it's revealing anyways, I find.

    The original interviewed aired at "Farbe Bekennen" ---> "showing your true colors".
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    ....... After the divorce of my first wife, the awesome Lucifera (as I lovingly refer to her), I discovered how one can actually show love in the form of one single, simple two letter word - "No."
    We should introduce Lucifera to my second ex-husband, Satan in a Business Suit...and I mean that in the nicest way.
    Only if Lucifera is beyond child-bearing age!

    Dennis
    We have three sons - three of the coolest dudes around. She also has been a great Mom in her "special way." She has also been my greatest teacher too (without a doubt).

    She is also Queen Witch Incarnate of all the MultiVerse and Beyond. Gotta love her, Goddess Lucifera...

    "I always love you, Baby" - she knows that though and hates it too... hahaha I am sure she'll win the next round.
    Sorry to burst in with this question, but as a parent who has experienced divorce twice
    I'm now asking if there is such a thing as "win the next round" in the cooperate endeavor of raising children?

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    Quote Posted by christian (here)

    The context in this clip is a SNL type of show, of course, as you can tell by the scene in the 'airplane' and the subsequent laughter. But the excerpt from the interview was from a serious show and the candidate really did address the average viewers of that serious TV format. You could still call it tongue-in-cheek or sarcasm, but it's revealing anyways, I find.
    The more sensitive one is the more layers one can detect, and I agree that such an answer, even if said as a joke, is still revealing. In plain sight comes to mind.
    But then there is another layer, that of a human being trying to be transparent, and confessing their baser motives.
    Ambition and desire for recognition come from ego, and many people who have adopted eastern philosophies nowadays hold prejudices against ego.

    So that opens a whole new discussion about the practical value of such philosophies, and even should these be considered as absolute truth, or just put alongside others and evaluated independently by each individual personally.

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    Countries have been forming blocks, or trade-free regions, all over the globe.
    As well as the European Community you have Caricom....The Caribbean version.
    I know there are others, but I only know about how Caricom was formed,
    and the subsequent improvements as well as frustrations this brought to the Caribbean region.
    Avalon has had a similar process happen...people have started to form alliances, groups....some have even referred to the word " cliques" on my satirical thread which I had called The Daily Hammer, and which is now lost somewhere.
    They appeared to be quite upset that such cliques existed, perhaps they were feeling left out. I thought that maybe some were referring to the Village, but after a while realized I was being paranoid...they meant different groups. Anyway...I was not aware of this as I had focused more on the Village than elsewhere. Anyhow, the fact is, there are always processes going on. Nothing remains static. The fact that alliances come about cannot be denied...the question arises, what is the spirit identity of each such alliance. How can they be defined, and how do they differ from one another?
    It has became clear to me that some deal with processing ET reality, others process individual healing, while we here have been practicing with something more far out, namely weather control. And this had to have brought us some attention from high places and subsequently a whole new ball game. The old Village is dead. Long live the Village.
    I have a friend who visualized it as 'bowls'. That the world, regarding the basics of human grouping, ie small/medium/large (depends) groups are organized into groups of bowls. (mostly speaking about perception and idealization of human cliques, smaller groups) Some larger, some smaller. That one could be immersed in one, and see all the people around them..down at the bottom of this bowl. And then see some of the people on the slopes, if that given bowl had enough people in it to see them, those who where on the sloped part. Those at the bottom of the bowl could not see anything outside of the bowl. For the ones on the slopes..the height affords a better view at the same time the lip of the bowl is closer. To know the lip and the freedom- or stepping out..is there.

    Then then there are those who tend to traverse the edges of the bowls, looking into them and seeing the other bowls around, all over the place. She said that she'd try the bowls out, some times, to go down into them and join the group for a while, if they seemed interesting, but that she tended to walk around the lips of the bowls, simply looking in. And that walking around the edges gave her the chance or opportunity to see all the given bowls as the separate items and contrivances that they where. To look into the 'one way glass' houses, as it where, but to not go in.

    I found that it was a good alternative visualization of the human issue or herd problem, as when one is at the bottom and fully immersed, vision outside of the bowl...for the larger part...ends. Standard 'center of the herd' issues.

    The thing is that nothing 'happens' at the center of the herd. Nothing. Only that which has been aided in capacity for formation can occur in the center of the herd.

    Anything that happens there is brought into existence, or given the capacity to form, by what has come from the edge of the herd. some might say yes,and no. But in my experience, the real 'control' comes from the edge of the herd. That in the dynamics of human or earth type herding, that all is filtered or allowed to reach core, via the edge or boundary conditions. Thus all new, all change, all control, all allowance of anything, all creation of any condition or precondition, occurs at the edge. Politicians, for example, and even corporations or military.....are merely change markers that are brought into the center of the herd and then are tasked to begin moments of sync or crystallization, nothing more.

    Thus, trying to control or ride the core, with regard to being 'change' or trying to fix the core, it means almost nothing and will likely never work. In that case, one is trying to use an energetic precondition that someone/something else has created. Thus, the idea of 'seizing the day' from a moment realized, realized at and from within the center of the herd, can be seen as being the near impossible wall to climb, that it really is.

    Everything is a cascade or motion that can ultimately be found to source from the edge.

    Thus a saying of mine, when people say to me that I'm a bit too far out. 'Normal....is for average', I tell them.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Countries have been forming blocks, or trade-free regions, all over the globe.
    As well as the European Community you have Caricom....The Caribbean version.
    I know there are others, but I only know about how Caricom was formed,
    and the subsequent improvements as well as frustrations this brought to the Caribbean region.
    Avalon has had a similar process happen...people have started to form alliances, groups....some have even referred to the word " cliques" on my satirical thread which I had called The Daily Hammer, and which is now lost somewhere.
    They appeared to be quite upset that such cliques existed, perhaps they were feeling left out. I thought that maybe some were referring to the Village, but after a while realized I was being paranoid...they meant different groups. Anyway...I was not aware of this as I had focused more on the Village than elsewhere. Anyhow, the fact is, there are always processes going on. Nothing remains static. The fact that alliances come about cannot be denied...the question arises, what is the spirit identity of each such alliance. How can they be defined, and how do they differ from one another?
    It has became clear to me that some deal with processing ET reality, others process individual healing, while we here have been practicing with something more far out, namely weather control. And this had to have brought us some attention from high places and subsequently a whole new ball game. The old Village is dead. Long live the Village.
    I have a friend who visualized it as 'bowls'. That the world, regarding the basics of human grouping, ie small/medium/large (depends) groups are organized into groups of bowls. (mostly speaking about perception and idealization of human cliques, smaller groups) Some larger, some smaller. That one could be immersed in one, and see all the people around them..down at the bottom of this bowl. And then see some of the people on the slopes, if that given bowl had enough people in it to see them, those who where on the sloped part. Those at the bottom of the bowl could not see anything outside of the bowl. For the ones on the slopes..the height affords a better view at the same time the lip of the bowl is closer. To know the lip and the freedom- or stepping out..is there.

    Then then there are those who tend to traverse the edges of the bowls, looking into them and seeing the other bowls around, all over the place. She said that she'd try the bowls out, some times, to go down into them and join the group for a while, if they seemed interesting, but that she tended to walk around the lips of the bowls, simply looking in. And that walking around the edges gave her the chance or opportunity to see all the given bowls as the separate items and contrivances that they where. To look into the 'one way glass' houses, as it where, but to not go in.

    I found that it was a good alternative visualization of the human issue or herd problem, as when one is at the bottom and fully immersed, vision outside of the bowl...for the larger part...ends. Standard 'center of the herd' issues.

    The thing is that nothing 'happens' at the center of the herd. Nothing. Only that which has been aided in capacity for formation can occur in the center of the herd.

    Anything that happens there is brought into existence, or given the capacity to form, by what has come from the edge of the herd. some might say yes,and no. But in my experience, the real 'control' comes from the edge of the herd. That in the dynamics of human or earth type herding, that all is filtered or allowed to reach core, via the edge or boundary conditions. Thus all new, all change, all control, all allowance of anything, all creation of any condition or precondition, occurs at the edge. Politicians, for example, and even corporations or military.....are merely change markers that are brought into the center of the herd and then are tasked to begin moments of sync or crystallization, nothing more.

    Thus, trying to control or ride the core, with regard to being 'change' or trying to fix the core, it means nothing and will never work. Everything is a cascade or motion that can ultimately be found to source from the edge.

    Thus a saying of mine, when people say to me that I'm a bit too far out. 'Normal....is for average', I tell them.
    I used to be at the bottom of such a bowl, but after a while sat on the upper rim, from where I discerned that all those bowls were actually disintegrating, at an increasing rate, and beneath them there appeared a Super Bowl....excuse the rather sporty metaphor....question is who is really in charge of that one, and if at all....

    Off now to the ruins of Ujarras, where there is a small outdoor morning concert of indigenous music....all very spontaneous...
    Lets see where that venture leads...the lady we now have to give a lift to is the one who organized it and she also finances the travels of the Dalai Lama...Ulli always has lots of questions about all of that, being a notorious outsider.
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    When reading my last post, one might notice that all efforts to control humanity, all contrivances, ultimately, originate from the edges of human perception and knowing. All effort to maintain control, is centered in that area, the very finely feathered edge-limit of all things human connected. Some understand this, some do not, so I'm mentioning it again, in a different context and way. To me, it is a very important thing to understand, and to use in one's long term and daily analysis of human flow. If not, one is left floundering, not knowing where, how, or when the waves are coming from and thus, never finding the 'way' to gain 'sea legs'. The metaphysical version of the thousand yard stare/look.
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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Countries have been forming blocks, or trade-free regions, all over the globe.
    As well as the European Community you have Caricom....The Caribbean version.
    I know there are others, but I only know about how Caricom was formed,
    and the subsequent improvements as well as frustrations this brought to the Caribbean region.
    Avalon has had a similar process happen...people have started to form alliances, groups....some have even referred to the word " cliques" on my satirical thread which I had called The Daily Hammer, and which is now lost somewhere.
    They appeared to be quite upset that such cliques existed, perhaps they were feeling left out. I thought that maybe some were referring to the Village, but after a while realized I was being paranoid...they meant different groups. Anyway...I was not aware of this as I had focused more on the Village than elsewhere. Anyhow, the fact is, there are always processes going on. Nothing remains static. The fact that alliances come about cannot be denied...the question arises, what is the spirit identity of each such alliance. How can they be defined, and how do they differ from one another?
    It has became clear to me that some deal with processing ET reality, others process individual healing, while we here have been practicing with something more far out, namely weather control. And this had to have brought us some attention from high places and subsequently a whole new ball game. The old Village is dead. Long live the Village.
    I am discovering how everything boils down to a personal decision to be in relationship with others (and all life for that matter) or not. It has become that simple to me now. I either chose to be in relationship with other quantum beings and non-quantum beings... or not.

    I found I prefer to not be lonely more than I prefer to rule all material realms. I am glad I discovered this ultimate choice. I am glad I chose to be in relationship with all.

    Love to All and Enjoy the Day - justone

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    Here and now...what's happening?
    It is 6:40 am and inside my home it is incredibly peaceful. Husband in bed next to me, with his iPad, reading some Spanish language website on Freemasonry, and occasionally sharing what he is reading.
    While I'm trying to collect some thoughts I had earlier on the meaning of context and consequence...
    both of which are really important to me. I found that most clashes happen when either one of those two is not being considered.
    Context can be seen summed up in the question "where am I now, in relation of the greater whole?"
    And 'consequence' is about the flow and the direction of one's intent, like
    "What might happen if I were to choose this path rather than that one?" when faced with a fork in the road.
    If each of us were to ask ourselves either one of those two questions and contemplated an answer we could have a smoother ground for our relationships.
    Its funny... the other day I stumbled while walking down the outside steps of our home (this was not at this now moment... was a few days ago). I realized a brick had come loose. I used to just call a repair man when I encountered a problem like this but I have been broke lately. So I called the local masonic lodge and asked if they had any free masons free to come by and help repair the broken step. They didn't even laugh and all I heard was a click. What gives? justoneclown

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    I finally had time to watch this clip. Only after the second time did I see it in the proper context, and understood what this was about. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply...a bit of sarcasm there...which in some countries is considered culturally ok, while in others it is not, but taken at face value.

    A SNL (Saturday Night Live) type of TV show, where they cut a clip from an interview with the candidate, then took his reply to the question 'why was he running for office' which was "ambition, vanity, recognition...just like the average viewer of this show" ...he had clearly said this as a joke, but then the show put the pieces together in a new way, and gave it the semi-serious angle when the guy on the plane says at the end..."How can he say that??? Its about the country, not the people!!!
    The context in this clip is a SNL type of show, of course, as you can tell by the scene in the 'airplane' and the subsequent laughter. But the excerpt from the interview was from a serious show and the candidate really did address the average viewers of that serious TV format. You could still call it tongue-in-cheek or sarcasm, but it's revealing anyways, I find.

    The original interviewed aired at "Farbe Bekennen" ---> "showing your true colors".
    Well - at least we know the real truth... that he's in it to change the world for the better. Why do I know this is true? Because he's a politician and they only know how to lie. Thus he can't fool me he's in it for vanity and ambition and all the other stuff he stated.
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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    ....... After the divorce of my first wife, the awesome Lucifera (as I lovingly refer to her), I discovered how one can actually show love in the form of one single, simple two letter word - "No."
    We should introduce Lucifera to my second ex-husband, Satan in a Business Suit...and I mean that in the nicest way.
    Only if Lucifera is beyond child-bearing age!

    Dennis
    We have three sons - three of the coolest dudes around. She also has been a great Mom in her "special way." She has also been my greatest teacher too (without a doubt).

    She is also Queen Witch Incarnate of all the MultiVerse and Beyond. Gotta love her, Goddess Lucifera...

    "I always love you, Baby" - she knows that though and hates it too... hahaha I am sure she'll win the next round.
    Sorry to burst in with this question, but as a parent who has experienced divorce twice
    I'm now asking if there is such a thing as "win the next round" in the cooperate endeavor of raising children?
    Exactly my point - we all lose as long as one is at war... and I hope one day she sees its slightly selfish to conduct some silly war all the rest of us left long, long ago because she identified the last and only battleground available - our children. Fortunately though she is outnumbered 4 who love her against one, herself, that has yet to discover how to love herself. Smiles! Chester
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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Quote Posted by christian (here)

    The context in this clip is a SNL type of show, of course, as you can tell by the scene in the 'airplane' and the subsequent laughter. But the excerpt from the interview was from a serious show and the candidate really did address the average viewers of that serious TV format. You could still call it tongue-in-cheek or sarcasm, but it's revealing anyways, I find.
    The more sensitive one is the more layers one can detect, and I agree that such an answer, even if said as a joke, is still revealing. In plain sight comes to mind.
    But then there is another layer, that of a human being trying to be transparent, and confessing their baser motives.
    Ambition and desire for recognition come from ego, and many people who have adopted eastern philosophies nowadays hold prejudices against ego.

    So that opens a whole new discussion about the practical value of such philosophies, and even should these be considered as absolute truth, or just put alongside others and evaluated independently by each individual personally.

    The problem is the ego hides in the last place you’d ever look... within itself.

    Peter Fonagy

    I found this true for me - sneaky little bugger too.

    I just looked him up cause I was worried he might be eastern... and he is! He's from eastern europe - damn!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Fonagy

    just strolling through the village today - peaceful day it is! Way better than last Sunday for sure.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Countries have been forming blocks, or trade-free regions, all over the globe.
    As well as the European Community you have Caricom....The Caribbean version.
    I know there are others, but I only know about how Caricom was formed,
    and the subsequent improvements as well as frustrations this brought to the Caribbean region.
    Avalon has had a similar process happen...people have started to form alliances, groups....some have even referred to the word " cliques" on my satirical thread which I had called The Daily Hammer, and which is now lost somewhere.
    They appeared to be quite upset that such cliques existed, perhaps they were feeling left out. I thought that maybe some were referring to the Village, but after a while realized I was being paranoid...they meant different groups. Anyway...I was not aware of this as I had focused more on the Village than elsewhere. Anyhow, the fact is, there are always processes going on. Nothing remains static. The fact that alliances come about cannot be denied...the question arises, what is the spirit identity of each such alliance. How can they be defined, and how do they differ from one another?
    It has became clear to me that some deal with processing ET reality, others process individual healing, while we here have been practicing with something more far out, namely weather control. And this had to have brought us some attention from high places and subsequently a whole new ball game. The old Village is dead. Long live the Village.
    I have a friend who visualized it as 'bowls'. That the world, regarding the basics of human grouping, ie small/medium/large (depends) groups are organized into groups of bowls. (mostly speaking about perception and idealization of human cliques, smaller groups) Some larger, some smaller. That one could be immersed in one, and see all the people around them..down at the bottom of this bowl. And then see some of the people on the slopes, if that given bowl had enough people in it to see them, those who where on the sloped part. Those at the bottom of the bowl could not see anything outside of the bowl. For the ones on the slopes..the height affords a better view at the same time the lip of the bowl is closer. To know the lip and the freedom- or stepping out..is there.

    Then then there are those who tend to traverse the edges of the bowls, looking into them and seeing the other bowls around, all over the place. She said that she'd try the bowls out, some times, to go down into them and join the group for a while, if they seemed interesting, but that she tended to walk around the lips of the bowls, simply looking in. And that walking around the edges gave her the chance or opportunity to see all the given bowls as the separate items and contrivances that they where. To look into the 'one way glass' houses, as it where, but to not go in.

    I found that it was a good alternative visualization of the human issue or herd problem, as when one is at the bottom and fully immersed, vision outside of the bowl...for the larger part...ends. Standard 'center of the herd' issues.

    The thing is that nothing 'happens' at the center of the herd. Nothing. Only that which has been aided in capacity for formation can occur in the center of the herd.

    Anything that happens there is brought into existence, or given the capacity to form, by what has come from the edge of the herd. some might say yes,and no. But in my experience, the real 'control' comes from the edge of the herd. That in the dynamics of human or earth type herding, that all is filtered or allowed to reach core, via the edge or boundary conditions. Thus all new, all change, all control, all allowance of anything, all creation of any condition or precondition, occurs at the edge. Politicians, for example, and even corporations or military.....are merely change markers that are brought into the center of the herd and then are tasked to begin moments of sync or crystallization, nothing more.

    Thus, trying to control or ride the core, with regard to being 'change' or trying to fix the core, it means almost nothing and will likely never work. In that case, one is trying to use an energetic precondition that someone/something else has created. Thus, the idea of 'seizing the day' from a moment realized, realized at and from within the center of the herd, can be seen as being the near impossible wall to climb, that it really is.

    Everything is a cascade or motion that can ultimately be found to source from the edge.

    Thus a saying of mine, when people say to me that I'm a bit too far out. 'Normal....is for average', I tell them.
    Exceedingly well explained, that bowls view. It also gives if not the how, at least the where one has to work on. Funny this goes for inner finding as well as social, earth like etc. It applies pretty much everywhere. If you would not have mentioned a "she" I could have swear it was a "he" that I know who shared that with you. I had heard the same example used in the definition and comprehension of Karma.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
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    Countries have been forming blocks, or trade-free regions, all over the globe.
    As well as the European Community you have Caricom....The Caribbean version.
    I know there are others, but I only know about how Caricom was formed,
    and the subsequent improvements as well as frustrations this brought to the Caribbean region.
    Avalon has had a similar process happen...people have started to form alliances, groups....some have even referred to the word " cliques" on my satirical thread which I had called The Daily Hammer, and which is now lost somewhere.
    They appeared to be quite upset that such cliques existed, perhaps they were feeling left out. I thought that maybe some were referring to the Village, but after a while realized I was being paranoid...they meant different groups. Anyway...I was not aware of this as I had focused more on the Village than elsewhere. Anyhow, the fact is, there are always processes going on. Nothing remains static. The fact that alliances come about cannot be denied...the question arises, what is the spirit identity of each such alliance. How can they be defined, and how do they differ from one another?
    It has became clear to me that some deal with processing ET reality, others process individual healing, while we here have been practicing with something more far out, namely weather control. And this had to have brought us some attention from high places and subsequently a whole new ball game. The old Village is dead. Long live the Village.
    I have a friend who visualized it as 'bowls'. That the world, regarding the basics of human grouping, ie small/medium/large (depends) groups are organized into groups of bowls. (mostly speaking about perception and idealization of human cliques, smaller groups) Some larger, some smaller. That one could be immersed in one, and see all the people around them..down at the bottom of this bowl. And then see some of the people on the slopes, if that given bowl had enough people in it to see them, those who where on the sloped part. Those at the bottom of the bowl could not see anything outside of the bowl. For the ones on the slopes..the height affords a better view at the same time the lip of the bowl is closer. To know the lip and the freedom- or stepping out..is there.

    Then then there are those who tend to traverse the edges of the bowls, looking into them and seeing the other bowls around, all over the place. She said that she'd try the bowls out, some times, to go down into them and join the group for a while, if they seemed interesting, but that she tended to walk around the lips of the bowls, simply looking in. And that walking around the edges gave her the chance or opportunity to see all the given bowls as the separate items and contrivances that they where. To look into the 'one way glass' houses, as it where, but to not go in.

    I found that it was a good alternative visualization of the human issue or herd problem, as when one is at the bottom and fully immersed, vision outside of the bowl...for the larger part...ends. Standard 'center of the herd' issues.

    The thing is that nothing 'happens' at the center of the herd. Nothing. Only that which has been aided in capacity for formation can occur in the center of the herd.

    Anything that happens there is brought into existence, or given the capacity to form, by what has come from the edge of the herd. some might say yes,and no. But in my experience, the real 'control' comes from the edge of the herd. That in the dynamics of human or earth type herding, that all is filtered or allowed to reach core, via the edge or boundary conditions. Thus all new, all change, all control, all allowance of anything, all creation of any condition or precondition, occurs at the edge. Politicians, for example, and even corporations or military.....are merely change markers that are brought into the center of the herd and then are tasked to begin moments of sync or crystallization, nothing more.

    Thus, trying to control or ride the core, with regard to being 'change' or trying to fix the core, it means almost nothing and will likely never work. In that case, one is trying to use an energetic precondition that someone/something else has created. Thus, the idea of 'seizing the day' from a moment realized, realized at and from within the center of the herd, can be seen as being the near impossible wall to climb, that it really is.

    Everything is a cascade or motion that can ultimately be found to source from the edge.

    Thus a saying of mine, when people say to me that I'm a bit too far out. 'Normal....is for average', I tell them.
    The fringe areas on the rim are the site of the paranormal, which as Sheldrake explains, does not mean rare, simply unexplainable by the normal scientific paradigm. We are engaged in a process whereby the rim becomes more occupied by what was formerly at the bottom - something akin to beating egg whites.

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    Had a wonderful day.
    This is where we first met at 9:30 am...everyone getting to know one another.



    Musicians from Spain and Costa Rica...Celtic music as well as Sanscrit mantras, some indigenous...
    about thirty people, investigating our place for possible future venues, hanging out and chanting and playing.


    When we got to our house by the river a couple from the Boruca tribe conducted a ceremony...
    this gentleman was the first indigenous person ever to study at the Sorbonne in Paris...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boruca_people

    Then to lunch at the restaurant that now stands at the spot where Edmund Bordeaux Szekely lived at the end of his life and translated part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the part on peace.
    He was buried in our valley. One of the organizers of the local Essenes group gave a talk. There was also a Spanish priest who had brought his wife...unusual because the Catholic church never disrobed him after he married her. Things are truly changing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Bordeaux_Szekely

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    Quote Posted by justoneman
    Its funny... the other day I stumbled while walking down the outside steps of our home (this was not at this now moment... was a few days ago). I realized a brick had come loose. I used to just call a repair man when I encountered a problem like this but I have been broke lately. So I called the local masonic lodge and asked if they had any free masons free to come by and help repair the broken step. They didn't even laugh and all I heard was a click. What gives? justoneclown
    Thanks Justone for making me laugh out loud. I only have a moment before going off to hopefully dreamtime so I can work my last night of graveyard for the week. Woo Hoo. I just made the epic move from h*ll. Only across town but had unique challenges that lets me know I still have a few things to work on. It's always good to go to sleep with a smile though.
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    Carmody's bowl post this morning was quite prophetic.
    When we got there we had to wait for the others at the entrance gate, and I looked up to the steep hills all around us and realized that we were at the bottom of a perfect bowl.
    Then the first musicians arrived and after we were all introduced to each other three of them started to chant, and it was penetrating, the sound of a Tibetan singing bowl.
    Similar to this sound, but only human voices.


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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)

    I am discovering how everything boils down to a personal decision to be in relationship with others (and all life for that matter) or not. It has become that simple to me now. I either chose to be in relationship with other quantum beings and non-quantum beings... or not.

    I found I prefer to not be lonely more than I prefer to rule all material realms. I am glad I discovered this ultimate choice. I am glad I chose to be in relationship with all.

    Love to All and Enjoy the Day - justone
    Welcome, welcome, welcome. You have come home. Nothing matters, but this decision. Moment by moment.
    You don't have to be stuck in either one...life is rhythmic.
    Decide on the now that is in front of you, and then decide on your response, keeping in mind the consequences and future responses.
    A bit like chess.

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    Such beauty.


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    Hello All:

    It is 5:48am Est. Monday morning.

    The Planet Saturn moved into Scorpio from it's stay in Libra on Friday. Saturn was visiting Libra for the past 2 1/2 years. I felt the shift. I sensed a deeper connection with self. For me, it brought a sigh of relief, for the depth of understanding that I have moved into these past days.

    Interestingly, I have been moved to let go of so much of the 'confusion' of the information darting hither and thither these past few years.
    "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune" :{

    or,

    simply my soul's journey of growth...

    With this new feeling of rootedness...I found myself finally watching Inellia Benz and breathing a bit more easily.

    I finally 'exhalled'...

    For whatever reason, and for all reasons, it was that way for me.

    I then came across this bit of information.

    It took me further along on my journey of self-responsibility, maturity, awareness of who I really am, and pure joy.

    Fear is the only piece that holds me back.

    I now proclaim 'no fear' .....hehehe just for today.

    I do hope this information is found to be helpful to someone!

    Sincerely,
    Anastasia




    The UFO Seduction By Kelly La Sha and Perry Mills
    The PDF version of this article is available at this link here.


    The UFO Seduction
    By Kelly La Sha and Perry Mills


    The dark ones have been in control of our planet and our souls in order to feed off of our energy for thousands of years. They have intentionally severed our connection from: higher Self, Our Loving Creator, and the extraordinary power of Love. They have co-opted and wrapped lies around every saint that has ever incarnated here by creating religions that infested our minds with shame, guilt, repressed sensuality, and the fear of God itself. Their agenda is to further distract us from awakening to our soulful sovereignty and our real opportunity for Ascension by enticing us with “channeled misinformation”, UFO’s, ET’s, “full disclosure”, and divisively impressive 4D technologies.


    As the questions rage across the Internet on whether we should embrace the interventions of extraterrestrial races, the attentions of innocent and concerned citizens of Earth are inadvertently being captivated. The conversation has gotten people more excited about “being saved from ourselves” than has it addressed their own sovereign soulful capacity to create the life they desire.


    As soul, where our attention lives, we are. If the sky turned red, and you were totally distracted watching the television, that real occurrence would be unknown to you. In like fashion, the world of real facts and possibilities has been masked by propaganda and the loud assertions of political, religious and scientific leaders. By their exaggerated influence in society, they have captivated the whole world population with their ability to steer public perceptions as to what life is, what their purpose in it might be, how to remain safe, and what the mere citizen can reasonably expect to achieve. Perception is real power, and where our attention is captivated defines what the quality and content of our awareness becomes. And where our awareness goes, so does our entire life experience.

    The first requirement for capturing the attention of people is to convince them that they are incapable of steering their own lives. The social engineers have succeeded in making the average person very unsure of their capacity or worthiness. And worse, they have caused us to doubt our divine heritage, our soul sovereignty, and our ability to connect directly to our Creator. When one is unsure and insecure, he gives away his power to those that claim to know better. This may be nothing new to the avid seeker of this age, but has the seeking soul just substituted ET’s into the role that the former leaders and pundits held. And worse, in so doing, have we jumped from the frying pan into the fire?


    It is time to ask, “What is the agenda behind full disclosure and UFO’s landing before December 21, 2012?” If we accumulate the information that is circulating throughout the Internet, we can dig a little deeper behind the agenda of each race that is suggesting that they are here to “help us”.




    Many of the messages from ETs come from channeled material. We seem to trust channelers and put them on a pedestal when we believe that we don’t have the same kind of special access… and then we never bother to ask the most pertinent questions that reveal the agendas behind their contact. Many of the you-tube videos, websites and blogs that post UFO footage pose a blanket presentation that all UFOs and ETs are benevolent and part of our Galactic Family that are only here to help us. There is no discernment made between metallic UFOs, mother ships, and orbs; when in reality, there is a vast difference between the malevolent agendas of certain 3D/4D beings (spacecraft) and the benevolent intentions behind 5D beings (orbs).


    So let’s review what we know of some of the alien contact that we know of already. Countless alien abductions have been perpetrated by beings that are bypassing the Universal agreement of the Law of One; that we do not impose on another’s free will. What is the agenda behind ET’s who are abducting humans against their will, fragmenting their souls with terror, and raping them of their genetic material, while severely damaging female reproductive organs in the process? I understand that they want to evolve their race, yet it is abusively overstepping their power and creating victims in the process… the DNA “donors” as well as the hybrid children that they have created. And now we are all looking up to the night sky in naive fascination to see UFO’s without using any discernment to see the agendas behind the various crafts. Our desperate view of our own stunted capacity has landed us on our knees in front of our new redeemers, when our only true hope is in awakening our relationship with our divine source.


    The Greys have openly communicated this to one channeler, “It is time for us to relieve the Earth from her inhabitants.“ Such a statement implies that we are lowly parasites on the earth and they intend to take us off of the planet to save her! And where do you think we will be taken? You might want to ask what their exact agenda is before boarding any spacecraft.


    There are several ET races with a similar agenda. They fall under the general category of malevolent 3D and 4D ETs. Their main project involves UFO’s landing impressively to advise us and entice us to revere them for their “higher technology”, then to board their ships to escape the Armageddon and thereby “save” the earth from us and “save” us from her. When in actuality they are harvesting souls as their slaves and their energetic food source. Their message is clear; that humans are a diseased race that cannot possibly help itself out of this mess without their superior technology and more evolved guidance. Will you abandon your sovereignty and lay it at the feet of another being?


    In the meantime, their intention is to distract us from the present event of the Ascension by wooing us with their spacecraft and speaking half truths embedded with lies that promise us technological assistance and “freedom”... if we just wait a little longer. Which of these contacts, if any, are speaking to the individual soul’s need for reconnection to their own innate sovereignty? A sovereign being takes its orders directly from its inner connection, how it feels, and what it hears from the whispers of its own intuition.


    Therefore, we must use our intuition to discern the information coming from various channelers who are supposedly representing 5D beings and innocently labeling them as: The Andromeda Council, Pleiadians, Galactic Federation of Light, and others who claim to come here to help us. So I suggest we all ask the question to these beings, “What is your intention? And specifically how do we as individual sovereign souls benefit from your intervention?”


    As we gain more understanding of our personal Ascension, we are realizing that souls that are incarnate at this time are already benefiting from this opportune time of the planetary Ascension. The planetary Ascension is only an “event” in the sense that it is a phase of time before and after our galactic alignment with Hunab Ku, our Galactic Center. But concurrently, we as individual souls, are in the midst of this accelerated frequency shift as well. We must not forget that Ascension is an organic process that each soul engages by its own volition. In a personal way, each soul reaches inwardly by the use of intention and reverence to make contact with its creator. With the purpose of awakening to its own divine identity, it thereby sheds the lies that it had been formerly indoctrinated to believe. If we can realize that we are at the end of a dark patriarchal cycle, and have the full capacity to claim back what has been taken from us, then we can realize the point of it all. The soul gains from this experience NOW, stretching itself to heal and awaken inside of the belly of the beast. All souls and universes change in just this fashion, from the inside out.


    So, it is our assertion that the prime directive of each and every sovereign soul, is to be in direct relationship with their creator, personally, internally, reverently, sacredly, and energetically, in order to participate in the creative work of God. Any person, entity, deity, or pseudo-authority, who decided for you that you need them to know your God, are misleading, disabling, vampiring you and using your energy while asking you to wait and wait for some “reward day.” And while you wait, they have succeeded in distracting you from your precious attention while they are sucking from you your vital sovereignty.


    So, what is the alternative to the popular fascination with these potentially disempowering ET/channelled influences? As long as everyone is comfortable with hypotheticals, let’s try this one on for size:


    You are already a 5th dimensional soul who incarnated in 3D and 4D forms. In alignment with your divine creator, you made a clear choice to imbue 5th dimensional virtues in the most remote regions of time and space. You come from Love and your gift to the worlds of 3D and 4D is love. In the unique challenge that you have chosen, you have been fitted with 4D bodies and then 3D forms. As this is the only way that 5D souls can engage these regions, you made contracts to work within the nature of your borrowed forms, and many have lost their memories in the process. As you awaken to your true heritage as 5D, you are checking your work to see if you have finished with your original intentions. In the process of that awakening, you find many opportunities to understand and forgive the antics of the corrupted and amnesiatic souls who are working unconsciously as gears for the 4d matrix. Your gift to them and all of the worlds is to carry the memory for all who are lapsed in their comas. Your awakened identity becomes the mirror to everyone you contact. Your direct contact with the source of love makes you the agency through which God’s love flows to the darkened masses. It may be the most honored role ever conceived. Can you hold that privilege?
    Posted by enerchi at 10/06/2012 11:56:00 PM

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    My first mind blowing encounter with ET was in 1994...
    Until then I had only believed in their existence because the alternative (non existence) seemed even more unlikely...
    But I have to admit that after it happened I was in a state of dread and fear. I had already been primed for some earth shattering event around the turn of the century, then only 6 years away, so I was in apocalyptic mode.
    Then I found out that one of my closer Bahai friends who had just come to Costa Rica from Oregon, was also already believer, but was an abductee, and had a collection of tapes, mostly about Billy Meyer...and the Nordics, and after she showed me those my fears abated.

    There were other events which helped me calm down...stories too long to tell, but apparently ET had communicated to one man who went on National TV that they were here to help and that the next day there could be a massive earth tremor and they would somehow use their technology to suck or drain excess energy out of the earth's crust.
    And sure enough, there was a whole swarm of them...this was also on national TV, on a different channel, and not everyone had seen the other program, and made the connection.
    But I was by then completely reassured that all would be well. I had seen the friendly kind. I must say fortunately the other kind never bothered me.
    I had only read about them, and abductions and Linda Molten Howe's scary Earth Filles site. But no direct experience.

    Around the year 2000 Neptune crossed the point opposite my Ascendant, and I had nearly nightly visions and hallucinations for a number of months...typical Neptune effect. People born with strong Neptune are often locked up as their relatives think they suffer from delusions...well those vision were very real, and I could even feel and see the presences that had come into my bedroom through the walls. Then I learnt about the fact that they respect an order and so I told them to stop visiting me at night time, but please ring my door bell at noon. They showed respect.

    Had a call coming in, so there was no time to edit this, nor finish what I wanted to say.
    The whole process of going through fear and relief, back and forth between the two, led to to a new discovery.
    That whenever I was in a state of fear, the outer conditions of my life worsened, and when I had a sudden spike in consciousness the outer conditions of my life improved.
    The discovery of such a relationship between the inner and outer was probably my biggest breakthrough of all, far greater than all the other awakenings I had experienced since 1977.

    Since then I think more in terms of what I want to direct my creativity towards...and this took me to a full circle conversation with my maker...the question of 'what is the highest plan? Is it to do with earth being just a soul machine, which spits out the "chaff" to create a biosphere on the moon, (one of Gurdjieff's analogies) and the "wheat" which moves up to the power level of the suns, or is it even more than that?
    Which would bring us to John Lash and the Gaia myth, ( which is only slightly different from the Bahai idea of "the earth is but one country, and mankind it's citizens"...)
    that we are all cells of her body, and need to find our function within that body.
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