If you had cancer, what would you do?

[Eram]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
Many of us are cancer survivors, keep in mind that most people today 'live with cancer' rather than 'die from cancer'.

But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.
Am I wrong?

If I could offer some advice, do not reject mainstream medical treatment. Look at it as a possible option while you explore all the available options. Dismissing chemo or radiation out of hand may not be a very wise decision.

keep in mind that a positive attitude can aid the healing process far more than people understand!
Good luck

Hi rgray222,

Only problem with chemo is, that, in order for lots of alternative cures to be able to work, you need to have a functioning immune system. Chemo destroys the immune system and in that, also your chance of an alternative route to health.

So one can't walk both paths and needs to make a decision right from the start.

What would be a situation in which chemo and radiation would be preferable in your opinion?

[Watching from Cyprus]

Sodium Bicarbonate is THE BEST remedy to quickly bring the PH up if too low.... AND PLEASE do not recommend anybody to drink Apple Vinegar just like that since apple vinegar typically has a PH of 4.25... Sodium Bicarbonate has 12. Apple Vinegar is an excellent remedy for many things and i take it especially before i go to bed if unhealthy family dinner has been consumed, since it breaks down the fat in the digestion system before it resides on the side bones :-) ... Just if you have cancer and wish to bring your PH level up, Vinegar is not a good idea until you are finished with the 2 weeks Sodium Bicarbonate treatment... I HAVE CURED A FRIEND OF MINE FOR PROSTATE CANCER.. His biopsy is now clean .. he only took the treatment for 2 weeks, and he send his PH level readings to me via SMS every day.

Important for all to know since this happened during the treatment : PH went up to 8.5 after 1 week... stayed there for 4 days as is maximum.. on the second day of PH 8.5 my friend tested his PH in the evening since he didnt feel well.. it had fallen down to 6.5... After asking him out what he had been eating and/or drinking which he shouldnt have, he had only one 7UP.. So i hope you can understand that white sugar and carbonated drinks should not be consumed at all... NOT ONLY ONE... 7UP and the likes GIVES CANCER.

With Love
Peter

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

one of the best and easiest ways to get your PH level optimal is apple vinegar, WITH the mother (a acetic bacteria that develops on fermenting alcoholic liquids).

http://chrisbeatcancer.com/mmmm-vinegar/

[Eram]

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Sodium Bicarbonate is THE BEST remedy to quickly bring the PH up if too low.... AND PLEASE do not recommend anybody to drink Apple Vinegar just like that since apple vinegar typically has a PH of 4.25... Sodium Bicarbonate has 12. Apple Vinegar is an excellent remedy for many things and i take it especially before i go to bed if unhealthy family dinner has been consumed, since it breaks down the fat in the digestion system before it resides on the side bones :-) ... Just if you have cancer and wish to bring your PH level up, Vinegar is not a good idea until you are finished with the 2 weeks Sodium Bicarbonate treatment... I HAVE CURED A FRIEND OF MINE FOR PROSTATE CANCER.. His biopsy is now clean .. he only took the treatment for 2 weeks, and he send his PH level readings to me via SMS every day.

Important for all to know since this happened during the treatment : PH went up to 8.5 after 1 week... stayed there for 4 days as is maximum.. on the second day of PH 8.5 my friend tested his PH in the evening since he didnt feel well.. it had fallen down to 6.5... After asking him out what he had been eating and/or drinking which he shouldnt have, he had only one 7UP.. So i hope you can understand that white sugar and carbonated drinks should not be consumed at all... NOT ONLY ONE... 7UP and the likes GIVES CANCER.

With Love
Peter

Hi Peter,

Good to hear that you cured you friend of prostate cancer. Not every cure has to damage or destroy other parts of the living organism in the process and you proofed it .

You say a few interesting things and I hope you can explain a bit more here and there.

When we started to use apple vinegar to lower the acidity in our body, we could just feel it's benefits in a couple of days, so imo the acidity of the apple vinegar and the amount that is to be ingested daily, doesn't influence the PH of the body in a bad way. Lots of food that DOES make the body acid aren't acidic to begin with, like proteins, coffee, sugar, nuts, wheat etc.
Why do so many people recommend apple vinegar (unfiltered) as a remedy for cancer if it isn't working that well?

About the Sodium Bicarbonate: I just bought it last week to brush our teeth with.
How can you use this to lower the acid in the body?
I presume that you don't want to have a PH of 8,5 when you don't have a cancer, so for normal use there is a different guide line I guess?

best wishes!

Waky

[Watching from Cyprus]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Sodium Bicarbonate is THE BEST remedy to quickly bring the PH up if too low.... AND PLEASE do not recommend anybody to drink Apple Vinegar just like that since apple vinegar typically has a PH of 4.25... Sodium Bicarbonate has 12. Apple Vinegar is an excellent remedy for many things and i take it especially before i go to bed if unhealthy family dinner has been consumed, since it breaks down the fat in the digestion system before it resides on the side bones :-) ... Just if you have cancer and wish to bring your PH level up, Vinegar is not a good idea until you are finished with the 2 weeks Sodium Bicarbonate treatment... I HAVE CURED A FRIEND OF MINE FOR PROSTATE CANCER.. His biopsy is now clean .. he only took the treatment for 2 weeks, and he send his PH level readings to me via SMS every day.

Important for all to know since this happened during the treatment : PH went up to 8.5 after 1 week... stayed there for 4 days as is maximum.. on the second day of PH 8.5 my friend tested his PH in the evening since he didnt feel well.. it had fallen down to 6.5... After asking him out what he had been eating and/or drinking which he shouldnt have, he had only one 7UP.. So i hope you can understand that white sugar and carbonated drinks should not be consumed at all... NOT ONLY ONE... 7UP and the likes GIVES CANCER.

With Love
Peter

Hi Peter,

Good to hear that you cured you friend of prostate cancer. Not every cure has to damage or destroy other parts of the living organism in the process and you proofed it .

You say a few interesting things and I hope you can explain a bit more here and there.

When we started to use apple vinegar to lower the acidity in our body, we could just feel it's benefits in a couple of days, so imo the acidity of the apple vinegar and the amount that is to be ingested daily, doesn't influence the PH of the body in a bad way. Lots of food that DOES make the body acid aren't acidic to begin with, like proteins, coffee, sugar, nuts, wheat etc.
Why do so many people recommend apple vinegar (unfiltered) as a remedy for cancer if it isn't working that well?

About the Sodium Bicarbonate: I just bought it last week to brush our teeth with.
How can you use this to lower the acid in the body?
I presume that you don't want to have a PH of 8,5 when you don't have a cancer, so for normal use there is a different guide line I guess?

best wishes!

Waky

Hey Waky, Simply test your urine and if too low, take a teaspoon of Sodium Bicarbonate in a mug of boiled water together with a teaspoon of molasses, morning and evening till you are on the 7.3 PH level.. Vinegar is fantastic, but but... if you eat red meats or animal fats only.. since as i mentioned it breaks down these non wanted fats which is good. When on Sodium Bicarbonate.. YOU DON'T EAT MEAT AT ALL.

The human intestines are 7-9 meters long. Why do you think that carnivores have have short intestines and vegans have long intestines.... think about it...

Humans are not meant to eat meat.. And i write this being a part meat eater myself .. I eat chicken + its liver and fish...

You want to have a alkaline body which is PH 7.3 as my wife has :-) My wife has lactose allergy so she does not eat or drink any lactose such as milk cheese etc.

So again, of meat you can have is only boiled or grilled chicken or fish (no frying of any kind,,, not fried vegetables either).

My PH is 6.5 and i am working to move it up to 7ish :-)

Love you all.

Peter

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

N

Im sorry your relative did not do well, and certainly some chemo is very detrimental and the treatments are cruel

But I have a sister in law who took chemo for pancreatic cancer with a life expectancy of 3 to 6 months. It is now 9 months later and she is doing will with her tumors mostly gone. She had very little poor reaction to the drug.. it was called Gemstar. I also have a another sister in law who is in year 8 of her chemo for breast cancer. She appears extremely healthy and actually, I cant keep up with her on a hike.

We shouldn't throw the baby out witht he bath water. Many people are not equiped to accept such drastic life style changes in diet etc and many will not accept that meditation and visualization is a viable option. So what benefit is is to try to disuade them conventional options? Their lives are equally worth fighting for within whatever medical paradigm they choose and believe in.

and we should not let erroneous beliefs disuade us from looking at the facts objectively

[Connecting with Sauce]

I can highly recommend listening to this link >>>
Cancer is not a disease it is a survival mechanism...

What I would do if...

1. I'd liver flush 5-6 times or more... My original PA1 thread on the topic here

2. I'd fast...

3. I'd do some Urine therapy...

4. I'd sort the gut out with fermented foods (1. is essential for good gut health)

5. I'd drink distilled water. I can recommend the MegaHome distiller very good.

6. I'd get rid of pesticides and fluoride out of my food (organic) and water (see 5. distilling is one of the only ways to get this toxin out)

7. I'd do a heavy metal detox especially mercury and remove amalgams safely if I had any with a rubber dam... FIR saunaing would REALLY help with this releasing toxins through the skin and bypass the liver/kidneys which are already toxic right now...

8. I'd look into releasing ANY trapped emotions from my energy body and investigate this...

9. I'd relax and not worry about having cancer just know your body with the measure here will heal itself... You just need to help it.

10. I'd find a really good healer who may be able to help you out... pm me I may know one who may be able to help you FOC.

I hope this helps...

PS knowing what I know I would not have chemotherapy, as the first link cover, cancer is not a disease... The immune system needs boosting and Chemo will just overload the system. I would not have it if I had cancer. I already do pretty most of the things on the list above so have a very slim chance of the cancer which is in my body (and everyone elses btw) getting out of balance and into a state where it causes concern...

PPS if you think you may have cancer DO A PREGNANCY TEST... If you are male and pregnant then you have cancer (HCG) which is at an elevated level and growing like a baby inside.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

N

Im sorry your relative did not do well, and certainly some chemo is very detrimental and the treatments are cruel

But I have a sister in law who took chemo for pancreatic cancer with a life expectancy of 3 to 6 months. It is now 9 months later and she is doing will with her tumors mostly gone. She had very little poor reaction to the drug.. it was called Gemstar. I also have a another sister in law who is in year 8 of her chemo for breast cancer. She appears extremely healthy and actually, I cant keep up with her on a hike.

We shouldn't throw the baby out witht he bath water. Many people are not equiped to accept such drastic life style changes in diet etc and many will not accept that meditation and visualization is a viable option. So what benefit is is to try to disuade them conventional options? Their lives are equally worth fighting for within whatever medical paradigm they choose and believe in.

and we should not let erroneous beliefs disuade us from looking at the facts objectively

Hello Arrowind :-) thank you for your post.

Im sorry i came of as trying to disuade people from chemo. It is my personal opinion, knowing its un nessesary to put someone that is sick through such extreme radiation poisoning. Having said that my mother went through mild chemo for breast cancer and after 5 years of taking drugs and treatment she is clear.

When she told me about it i naturally offered to help in tandem with her other treatment and i made no fuss about it. I saw her come out from treatment tired and listless. The doctors never prescribed eating fresh food and vitamins to restore health. They just gave her drugs. So i took it upon myself to boost her diet becuase a 75 year old woman needs good nutrition to re generate what the chemo takes out.

I also get called out to an intensive care unit in a major hospital in Sydney. Sometimes in hospice care. And not one doctor prescribes nutrition, which is THE most intelligent and effective way to heal a body. I am constantly appauled at our medical establishment. Its only through the love and care of some beautiful nursing staff and a dear friend who is an administrator in the hospice that im alowed to help.

I completely respect the decisions your relatives took and i m so very happy its working for them, bless them and i do hope they get back to normality nd live a beatiful long life :-)

The treatments i describe here are basic compared to full courses i teach but its just a small way to spread easy techniques that people can try if they so desire.

Thank you :-)
N
N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
I can highly recommend listening to this link >>>
Cancer is not a disease it is a survival mechanism...

What I would do if...

1. I'd liver flush 5-6 times or more... My original PA1 thread on the topic here

2. I'd fast...

3. I'd do some Urine therapy...

4. I'd sort the gut out with fermented foods (1. is essential for good gut health)

5. I'd drink distilled water. I can recommend the MegaHome distiller very good.

6. I'd get rid of pesticides and fluoride out of my food (organic) and water (see 5. distilling is one of the only ways to get this toxin out)

7. I'd do a heavy metal detox especially mercury and remove amalgams safely if I had any with a rubber dam... FIR saunaing would REALLY help with this releasing toxins through the skin and bypass the liver/kidneys which are already toxic right now...

8. I'd look into releasing ANY trapped emotions from my energy body and investigate this...

9. I'd relax and not worry about having cancer just know your body with the measure here will heal itself... You just need to help it.

10. I'd find a really good healer who may be able to help you out... pm me I may know one who may be able to help you FOC.

I hope this helps...

PS knowing what I know I would not have chemotherapy, as the first link cover, cancer is not a disease... The immune system needs boosting and Chemo will just overload the system. I would not have it if I had cancer. I already do pretty most of the things on the list above so have a very slim chance of the cancer which is in my body (and everyone elses btw) getting out of balance and into a state where it causes concern...

PPS if you think you may have cancer DO A PREGNANCY TEST... If you are male and pregnant then you have cancer (HCG) which is at an elevated level and growing like a baby inside.

Excellent Sauce of info :-) thank you

N

[Chris Gilbert]

If such was to occur, I would take time off and devote more hours to my neikung meditation practice, along with consulting skilled practitioners who follow the same method I do (or good healers from other systems).

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Actually i believe vinigar neutralises acidity.

Bi carb definitely netralises nitric acids.

When my tummy feels upset or acidic i drink some nice balsamic vinigar with water. It totally neutralises an upset stomach.
Typically 10 ml balsamic to 40 ml water.

Vinigar can be used to neutralise chemichal burns and sun burn.

So i think it has neutralising properties.

Another treatment you can try is drinking Hydrogen Peroxide in small doses. I often drink a mix of 15 ml of 6% by volume Hydrogen Peroxide and 50 ml water, before a bike ride. It gives my legs great power and oxygen. Its also helped clear pain i used to get in my medulla.

I used to get terrible head aches in the back of my head after a hard bike ride. When i started using HP it cleared up. Now it dosent happen anymore :-)

N

[Hervé]

Psssstttt... Nanoo...


Vinegar
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vinegar is a liquid substance consisting mainly of acetic acid (CH3CO2H) and water, the acetic acid being produced through the fermentation of ethanol by acetic acid bacteria.[1] It is today mainly used in the kitchen as a general cooking ingredient, but historically, as the most easily available mild acid, it had a great variety of industrial, medical, and domestic uses, some of which (such as a general household cleanser) are still promoted today. Commercial vinegar is produced either by fast or slow fermentation processes. In general, slow methods are used with traditional vinegars, and fermentation proceeds slowly over the course of weeks or months. The longer fermentation period allows for the accumulation of a nontoxic slime composed of acetic acid bacteria. Fast methods add mother of vinegar (i.e., bacterial culture) to the source liquid before adding air using a venturi pump system or a turbine to promote oxygenation to obtain the fastest fermentation. In fast production processes, vinegar may be produced in a period ranging from 20 hours to three days.

[Andreash94]

personaly i would use THC it kills cancer cells but have an 2nd efect euphoria (so called canabis/marijuana)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Psst Amzer Zo


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5020059AAn5FMM

Acids can neutralise each other. In this case the body reads the acid from the vinegar and tells the body to stop producing more acid. Because acetic acid is not a base it reacts with salts or sodium hydroxide to produce a watered down version of sodium acetate which is a salt.

Stomach acid s typically 6 molar hydrocloric acid. Vinegar is typically 1 molar acid. So the reaction of the vinegar telling the body to stop producing acid reduces the acidity down to a more accepatle level. Id say in the vicinity of about 2 - 3 moles.

Hence vinegar can be used to neutralise acidity :-)

N
N

[Hervé]

Psssstttt... Nanoo...

I guess the misunderstanding comes from the usage of the word "neutralize."

Acid and base neutralize each other whereas ingesting acid prevents the production of more acid by one's stomach; or else dilutes the gastric acids... but does not "neutralize" the oxidation.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Psssstttt... Nanoo...


Vinegar
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vinegar is a liquid substance consisting mainly of acetic acid (CH3CO2H) and water

Even though apple cider vinegar (ACV) is acidic, I have seen so many claims on the Internet that it ends up making the body less acidic that I'm not ready to just dismiss those claims.

Perhaps, once digested, ACV has an alkalizing affect?

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)
[...]

Perhaps, once digested, ACV has an alkalizing affect?

cf post above yours.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
... whereas ingesting acid prevents the production of more acid by one's stomach ...

If I understand correctly, the increased production of stomach acid is not a net acidic event for the body, because the other half of that reaction is increased production of (alkaline) bile in equal amounts.

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Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
cf post above yours.

If that post addresses my questions ... I don't know it yet .

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Psssssst psst psss ( i think i sprung a leak :-)


Amzer Zo


Hydrocloric acid s base is Sodium Hydroxide

Ref : http://m.everythingscience.co.za/gra...s-01.cnxmlplus

A neutralization reaction would take place because you are reacting an acid (vinegar = acetic acid) with a base (NaOH). The balanced equation looks like this: CH3COOH + NaOH ===> CH3COO-Na+ + HOH

Quoted. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5134934AAE3Bd4

Hope this helps :-)

N

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
... whereas ingesting acid prevents the production of more acid by one's stomach ...

If I understand correctly, the increased production of stomach acid is not a net acidic event for the body, because the other half of that reaction is increased production of (alkaline) bile in equal amounts.

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Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
cf post above yours.

If that post addresses my questions ... I don't know it yet .

It's only 1/2 the answer... the other 1/2 was posted by Nanoo with the difference in "strength" between apple cider vinegar (malic acid) and gastric chlorhydric acid.

Gastric acid production is halted by ingestion of vinegar acid which, being less strong, requires less production of bile and gives a break to one's liver (see the liver cleanse thread), as far as I can gather.

Nonetheless, it is still an "alkali producing" "food."

[Hervé]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Psssssst psst psss ( i think i sprung a leak :-)


Amzer Zo


Hydrocloric acid s base is Sodium Hydroxide

Ref : http://m.everythingscience.co.za/gra...s-01.cnxmlplus

A neutralization reaction would take place because you are reacting an acid (vinegar = acetic acid) with a base (NaOH). The balanced equation looks like this: CH3COOH + NaOH ===> CH3COO-Na+ + HOH

Quoted. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5134934AAE3Bd4

Hope this helps :-)

N

No contest about a base (NaOH) neutralizing acetic acid