Barack Obama 2012

[mountain_jim]

But Quinsey's SaLuSa again assures us, as recently as today, that

We already know which world Leaders can be trusted, and Barack Obama will lead the way. It seems we cannot say it enough times to convince some people, but he is a highly spiritual soul simply waiting his opportunity to begin his real mission. He will re-unite the world in peace, and set the scene for our coming.

[jimmer]

we are witnessing and impacted by the biggest political con job perpetrated on the american people in our history.
thanks democrats.
there will always be phony politicians. it's our job not to elect them.
the american press and an uninformed electorate has let the rest of we americans down.
and lots of us are really, really ticked off.

[mountain_jim]

there will always be phony politicians. it's our job not to elect them.

Which is why I am sitting this election out. Obama was quite the bait and switch, but Romney is funded and advised by some of the same neocon contingent I suspect were involved in the 9/11 false flag, plus a buddy of nutinyahoo who will almost certainly continue to do Israel's dirty work.

Believing the Dem's con jobs are worse than the Repugnicans is not the path to a better future, based on all the evidence since 9/11, in my view.

And voting is a joke anyways, at least for the last 3 US prez elections, in any place where the votes are electronic and no paper-trails for audits exist.

I did not know until today that Rabbi Dov Zakheim is a Romney advisor. I have been aware of his connections to many suspicious aspects of 9/11, including the mission Pentagon trillions announced on 9/10/01, and links to remote controlled aircraft guidance systems, among others, for some years.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10...mney-campaign/

According to Barrett, Romney's top foreign policy advisor Rabbi Dov Zakheim is “one of the leading suspected hands-on designers and controllers of the Israeli-instigated 9/11 false-flag operation.”

The analyst further added that Zakheim, who was appointed on May 4, 2001 as the Comptroller of the US Defense Department, was responsible for the loss of over USD 2.3 trillion in Pentagon funds - equivalent to five times its annual budget - which was announced by the then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on September 10, 2001, just a day before the 9/11 events.

The huge and mysterious loss of funds was actually estimated to be USD 9.1 trillion by CIA whistleblower Susan Lindauer, the article added.

“So what happened to the Pentagon's missing 2.3 trillion dollars (or 9.1 trillion dollars if you believe Susan Lindauer)?” Barrett asked. “The one thing we know for sure is that it has never been found...at least not officially. Lindauer says insiders know it was embezzled by agents of Israel. Interestingly, the Comptroller of the Pentagon - the man who was running the Pentagon's finances - was a known Israeli agent, Rabbi Dov Zakheim. (Yes, he really is a rabbi!)”

mainstream link indicating his connection with Romney camp:

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...ebate-in-Tempe

TEMPE, AZ - Advisors on national security to President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney debated foreign policy at Arizona State University in Tempe Wednesday night.

Obama's advisor, Janine Davidson, highlighted his foreign policy successes, namely the killing of Osama Bin Laden and pulling the troops out of Iraq.

Davidson also criticized Romney's tour abroad this summer, saying he insulted our allies.

Romney's advisor, Dov S. Zakheim, countered by criticizing the Obama administration for cutting nearly $500 billion from the defense budget which he said makes the United States look weak to our enemies.

One of the more spirited moments in the debate came on the topic of Iran and their quest to develop nuclear weapons.

"I believe the sanctions are starting to work," Davidson said. "If you bring Iran to the table and change their calculus so they can determine it's no longer in their best interest to have this weapon, that's a better, long-term outcome than the military option."

"If we say 'we're going to wait until they've just about got a bomb,' when the Israelis look at our intelligence record including our ability to predict all those riots the other week and say 'well, suppose you're wrong again,'" countered Zakheim.


Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...#ixzz28vIu1BLb

DOV ZAKHEIM ­ A brief resume'
Graduate of the prestigious London School of Economics (PhD), and the University of Oxford (National Science Foundation Graduate Fellow)
Former CEO of Systems Planning Corporation, a highly specialized defense technology company that manufactures a one-of-a-kind remote-piloting system for aircraft, including commercial airliners
Senior Fellow for Asian Studies of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
Member of the Task Force on Defense Reform (appointed by Secretary of Defense Cohen)
Senior Advisor at the Center for International and Strategic Studies
Former Under Secretary of Defense (appointed by George W. Bush)
Comptroller of the Pentagon
Pioneer and prime architect of Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the neo-con cabal that authored Rearming America's Defenses (RAD), the bible for American global domination
Author of "Flight Of The Lavi: Inside A US-Israeli Crisis" (Brassey's, 1996)
Long-time Bush associate, having served as a policy advisor to the governor during the 2000 campaign
Columnist for The Jerusalem Post
Editorial Board member of Israel Affairs
Ordained Rabbi
Citizen of the State of Israel - How a citizen of Israel can serve as Comptroller of America's central defense establishment is a question I shall leave to others for comment. While they ponder this perturbing oddity, perhaps they could also shed light on why every one of the following kingpins of the Bush administration are also Israeli citizens: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Michael Chertoff, Elliot Abrams, Donald Kagan, Richard Haas, Kenneth Adelman, Edward Luttwak, Robert Satloff, David Frum, David Wurmser, Steve Goldsmith, Phillip Zelikow, and Marc Grossman.

[Cidersomerset]

The Nobel peace committee should hang their heads in shame !!!

I know Nobel made his fortune inventing dynamite ! and they have sure
blown a hole in the concept of world peace !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kf1SLhNoUNY

Published on 9 Oct 2012 by RTAmerica


Three years ago, President Obama was the recipient of the highly prestigious Nobel Peace Prize. At the time, even the president was taken back by the award and he admitted himself that the decision was a controversial one, but since he won the award President Obama has continued to expand the drone program in countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan and under his watch over 1,300 civilians have been killed. Colonel Morris Davis joins us with more on whether Obama is really promoting peace.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lpGYeASez0g

Published on 9 Oct 2012 by RTAmerica


It seems as technology progresses devices get smaller and smaller and that goes for drones as well. According to Wired, mini-drones are being tested in Oklahoma in program known as Robotic Aircraft for Public Safety and it will be used for aerial surveillance. So what exactly is this program for? Amie Stepanovich, associate litigation counsel for EPIC, fills us in on what's really going on with aerial surveillance.
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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=u8nNfSJeiRA

Published on 10 Oct 2012 by RTAmerica


Mini-drones are being tested in Oklahoma withing the framework of a program called "Robotic Aircraft for Public Safety," indicating that small spy planes will be used to keep tabs on Americans in the near future. The drones are said to be used for ventures like "law enforcement operations, search and rescue, and fire and hazardous material spill response" and will fly for 30 minutes to two hours at a time, weighing around 25 pounds so they can be launched by hand. However those devices are reportedly set to spy on the public. Trevor Timm of the Electronic Frontier Foundation joins RT's Liz Wahl


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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJkMdemPs

Published on 10 Oct 2012 by RussiaToday


US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta has confirmed that US troops have been dispatched to the Jordan-Syrian border to help bolster the former's military capabilities in case violence escalates in the volatile region - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/lsjysb

[Cidersomerset]

For what its worth on last weeks cash flow Bob played a clip part of which Ion was asked where obama was born ? Ion said
he was born in Jakarta Indonesia and they have said this a few times over the last couple of years....I'll just mention it as I
thought of it looking at the tittle of the thread ! ....

Obama like all the last 5 or 6 Presidents are all Corporate puppets as we have discussed on many threads on here and the
Nobel article sums up what a farce politics is for 99% of the worls populace because who ever we vote for...TPTB stay in power!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kf1SLhNoUNY

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...a-kill-list---

Which is why I am sitting this election out. Obama was quite the bait and switch, but Romney is funded and advised by some of the same neocon contingent I suspect were involved in the 9/11 false flag, plus a buddy of nutinyahoo who will almost certainly continue to do Israel's dirty work.

I understand your frustration and TPTB don't care if you vote or not as their man will still get in.
I feel the same over here but I will vote for the sacrafices of my working class fore bearers..

i will vote for one of the minor parties, I know it may not make a difference but it keeps to the
principle of one man one vote! even if the system is corrupt.....

[Kryztian]

He mentions Mandela, Marshall and and King as his predecessors. He seems to be following more in the footsteps of Kissinger.

[sdv]

So what exactly is this program for?

Continue the US (government and nation as a whole and not individuals, who are some of the most inspirational and creative that we have in the world) aggressive actions for world dominance for its own interests (might is right), but with decreasing risks for the people of the USA (these drones kill without having to risk US soldiers on the ground).

PS No great person is without flaws. Consider Nelson Mandela. Under his government thousands of teachers were retrenched and all teaching colleges were closed down. Eighteen years after liberation, unemployment is above 25%, corruption, incompetence and giving jobs to pals for government is rampant (no need to have qualifications or experience or even a clean criminal record), and the poor and uneducated and ignorant are using violence and destruction to demand rather than earn. As the leader of the liberated South Africa he was inspirational, but the country is being destroyed because of the failure to invest wisely in education. Don't expect anyone to be perfect, but never sell out your values for the sake of politics and what you expect to gain from such politics.

[sdv]

Please guys, look at the more substantial stuff to hang someone, such as policies if you want, response to lobbyist, embezlement if you can find, not petty stories.

Contrary to our protestations, a country gets the leader and government that it chooses! You can play the game of petty mud slinging or you can find out what your true values are and live in a way that upholds those values. To do so means that even when we are powerless we must act. When another drone terrorises and kills people in Pakistan, or wherever, we must stand up and name and acknowledge and name those who have been terrorised and killed and speak out our outrage and rejection about what has been done on our behalf so that we can be the greatest and the best and be protected in all ways. Not so?

[EsmaEverheart]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

Published on 9 Oct 2012 by RTAmerica


It seems as technology progresses devices get smaller and smaller and that goes for drones as well. According to Wired, mini-drones are being tested in Oklahoma in program known as Robotic Aircraft for Public Safety and it will be used for aerial surveillance. So what exactly is this program for? Amie Stepanovich, associate litigation counsel for EPIC, fills us in on what's really going on with aerial surveillance.
=======================================================

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=u8nNfSJeiRA

Published on 10 Oct 2012 by RTAmerica


Mini-drones are being tested in Oklahoma withing the framework of a program called "Robotic Aircraft for Public Safety," indicating that small spy planes will be used to keep tabs on Americans in the near future. The drones are said to be used for ventures like "law enforcement operations, search and rescue, and fire and hazardous material spill response" and will fly for 30 minutes to two hours at a time, weighing around 25 pounds so they can be launched by hand. However those devices are reportedly set to spy on the public. Trevor Timm of the Electronic Frontier Foundation joins RT's Liz Wahl

I live in Oklahoma. While I am far away from Ft. Sill, my husband and I have seen drones flying over our house on 2 separate occasions.

[ghostrider]

the ptb have to build Obama up, he has no job experience, wasnt born stateside, two years a senator then boom running for president , gets elected , gets peace prize for doing nothing but breathing, then gets osama , sound like a movie script. the drones, hmmm better hope no one hacks the program and sends one over where your loved ones are. I sick of MY government spying on me everywhere I freakin turn. I will not fly. I puposely say wild things cause I know they are listening. you spies, you've lost your true loyalty to the constitutioin and freedom and the american people , shame on you, karma gonna get cha. you betcha...... take your drone and fly it where the sun don't shine. oops hope the kids are asleep. sorry I'm venting.

[AMystic3434]

and if he looses the election that might be part of there defeat. I remember an interview with Andrew Basiago where he said he spent time as a child with Obama in a CIA program. What do you think of Andrew Basiago? He has some outragous claims, is he legit.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

We ALL are part of the NWO support network IMHO. 98.9999% of us unconsciously. 1% do it for life... And 0.0001% work hard to create heaven on earth. A world based on Love... Which part every one of us is of? Huh?

[Cidersomerset]

YES !!! & YES !!! ... I've been meaning to see what Andrew has to say about Curiosity !!


I have put several of Andys interviews up this one is interresting and Bill gives his view
on Andy at the time ...


I think Andy thinks it is 'True'....Whether he was involved in some of the 'MK Ultra' games
going on in 60's/70's & 80's is debatable....I do not think he is a 'crank' and some of his
claims maybe true .
Has he been deliberately put in the alternate community with a story to tell ?
To discredit any research against the real Mars bases and Jump rooms ? possibly..

Andy said recently he was going to run for the Presidency of the US in 2016..
Because it was predicted when he was a boy in the chrononaught service !

He cannot be any more deluded than George Bush Jnr..LOL..

Its another one to mull over imo ,....Steve

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-28th-Oct-2011...

For what its worth ...Ion says Obama was born in Jakarta Indonesia !!

[Dennis Leahy]

Obama part of the NWO?
Absolutely
9/11 cover-up alone would convince me. Add the total support of the war-for-profit machine, signing the Patriot Act and NDAA, fake "kill" of binLadin, murder of thousands of civilians by drone in phony war on terror, "bailouts" to bankers and no financial criminals even indicted ... how much more proof do we need?

If he loses, it is strategic to the NWO that he lose, nothing more. They have already selected the winner. The "election" is pure theater, simply a distraction for the masses.

I remain hopeful that the NWO is falling apart, but pragmatically, I have seen nothing *yet* to indicate that it is true. In martial arts, opponents are routinely drawn to make moves where they see perceived weakness, but the masters feign weakness to draw the opponent. The NWO is a formidable opponent with hundreds of years and probably hundreds of thousands or even millions of man-hours (and probably artificial intelligence computer applications) to set up the chess board and formulate their strategy. The announcement of their defeat is premature. Stay strong and pure and keep growing your compassion and identification with Source - I am convinced this is key to both our personal life's journey being (spiritually) successful, and any chance of us defeating the NWO being successful.

Andrew Basiago? I would bet a large sum he is a deliberate disinformation agent, and if I am wrong about the "deliberate", then I'd say he is a mind-controlled disinformation agent. Wild stories using pieces of other people's wild claims.

Was Obama CIA? I'd say, a strong possibility that is true. If not CIA, then some other alphabet agency. I believe that most of his whole life story is contrived. No one just rises from obscurity - on their own - to become president of the USA, Inc. in a few years.

Dennis

[Fred Steeves]

I actually have much compassion for Barry Barack Obama. Just look at his eyes and facial expressions as a child and young man, then compare that to what you see today. There's nothing left of his former self, they've taken it all.

I was shocked at how much this PBS documentary disclosed 2 nights ago, even though it also leaves a lot of holes. The main thing is, look at all the young footage of him early on, and you tell me just what happened that poor kid...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7MXOr3KELqE

[Kryztian]

As Robert says above, we are all part of the NWO at times. It really does depend how much we collaborate with their agenda or resist it, consciously or unconsciously. When we eat fast food, rely on big Pharma for our health care, buy into the consumerist philosophy, and take on xenophobic fears, we unconsciously support the NWO, we become the base for their pyramid of tyranny. When we make decisions of take responsibility for our selves and look out for the welfare of others, live courageously and make decisions that lead to wellness for all, without even knowing it, we are working to overthrow the NWO.

As for Obama, his complicity with the NWO might always be a mystery. How conscious is he that there is an NWO? Has he been "conditioned" for the job or brainwashed? Perhaps the NWO does possess the technology to discern certain details about the future and the name "Obama" came up, and so they came to be a guiding force in his life, preparing him, decades in advance, to be the figurehead leader of a nation which they want to control.

The question for me is not, if he is or isn't a member, but just how conscious is he of the NWO agenda? We know he probably went to Bilderberg in 2008, but how aware is he of the significance of Bilderberg and what it does and how they truly think? How far up the hierarchy is he in the NWO and does he even know how high up it goes, or does he think about it?

I don't think we can truly know that answer to the question and it would not be responsible to make conclusions we can't justify. All we can do is speculate on the parameters of possibility.

[Brodie75]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Obama part of the NWO?
Absolutely
9/11 cover-up alone would convince me. Add the total support of the war-for-profit machine, signing the Patriot Act and NDAA, fake "kill" of binLadin, murder of thousands of civilians by drone in phony war on terror, "bailouts" to bankers and no financial criminals even indicted ... how much more proof do we need?

If he loses, it is strategic to the NWO that he lose, nothing more. They have already selected the winner. The "election" is pure theater, simply a distraction for the masses.

I remain hopeful that the NWO is falling apart, but pragmatically, I have seen nothing *yet* to indicate that it is true. In martial arts, opponents are routinely drawn to make moves where they see perceived weakness, but the masters feign weakness to draw the opponent. The NWO is a formidable opponent with hundreds of years and probably hundreds of thousands or even millions of man-hours (and probably artificial intelligence computer applications) to set up the chess board and formulate their strategy. The announcement of their defeat is premature. Stay strong and pure and keep growing your compassion and identification with Source - I am convinced this is key to both our personal life's journey being (spiritually) successful, and any chance of us defeating the NWO being successful.

Andrew Basiago? I would bet a large sum he is a deliberate disinformation agent, and if I am wrong about the "deliberate", then I'd say he is a mind-controlled disinformation agent. Wild stories using pieces of other people's wild claims.

Was Obama CIA? I'd say, a strong possibility that is true. If not CIA, then some other alphabet agency. I believe that most of his whole life story is contrived. No one just rises from obscurity - on their own - to become president of the USA, Inc. in a few years.

Dennis

Have to agree with the obvious part. Yuor either part of the solution or part of the problem, and even in a fictious role of president he would be in a position to know the difference.

[Brodie75]

Am i understanding you correctly that your saying THEY messed with him and or groomed (mind controlled) him
and that is why he's gone along with the NWO agenda?
Or was he just too cowardly to stand up for his country?
Even if he was victom to or of a terrible childhood there's plenty of folks here on this forum who've
to hell and back and can still stand up amd counted.

Ps. Plenty of mk ultra victoms out there Cathy o"Brian, Brice Taylor, Duncon & Miranda who have
seem the light. Perhaps there's hope for him yet

[GoodETxSG]

Member of NWO = Eligible to hold office as puppet... NON Member of NWO = You are a third party candidate that has no chance of being voted in...
I cannot be convinced that to varying degree's ANYONE in a position of POWER in NWO/CABAL Sponsored Countries are puppets on some level of the NWO... When people are voted in and spend their first month on the "Hill" their eyes are opened to "how things are done" and if they rock the boat they learn quickly not to... so "Hope and Change" is a nice slogan, but they do not have the power to keep any of these promises. The NWO is elbow deep in their posteriors... sadly the way it is until the collapse and very hard times happen to let us start over.
Not just my humble opinion, what I have witnessed first hand (Not up my posterior) how things work in the Political, Military, Intelligence and Financial Power Structures... Feel free to dispute. I just have to go off of what I have seen... not hear say on the Internet that is mixed with opinions and disinfo...
TY...

[ghostrider]

of course he is part of the NWO , he was brought up and in to the white house by the ptb. hint his real name is not Barrak Hussen Obama, sounds like saddam hussen and osama binladen together coincidence ?? nope. dictator + terroist = Obama. Kill list , drones, NDAA law, border patrol agents killed , ambassadors killed, navy seals killed, no protesting where government types are speaking etc ...