Bible Topics and Questions

[kreagle]

Our 'indwelling God' is 'greater than your problem(s)!'

Hey guys & gals,....thought I'd share a 'victory song' with you!


Ashley Wicker - Greater is He

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=no5hpfGFLAY

1 John 4:4(KJV)

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.



Your brother, friend, and servant,......kreagle

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by kreagle (here)
Star Mariner,

I guess first of all we need to gain a perfectly rounded understanding of what ‘extra-dimensional’ actually is, and means. Even our best scientific understanding cannot define what it is, where it is, and how it fits into the construct of the Universe.

You are right, brother, about understanding the term 'extra-dimensional'. Besides the 3D world we live in, I understand there is suppose to be up to eleven 'dimensions' that we have yet to discover, or understand. Pretty wild if you ask me. It just seems, by definition of the word, ( ED, extra-dimensional), that this is 'exactly what they, ( fallen, and unfallen, angels), do and is how they 'pop in and out' of our 'dimension in which we live'.

Your understanding of their being 11 dimensions is about right, though I have heard of 12, the 12th actually being, well God himself.

However I would classify that phenomenon more with the term ‘frequency’, or band of vibration, along whose spectrum (towards Light) we are travelling, ever upwards (most of us), in a fractal spiral of learning, purification, and Gold/Self-discovery. Far out I know. But I don’t see anything about that idea which would conflict with your own understanding, it’s just expressed with different terminology.

Dimension however is something different. If you view frequency as the ‘paint’ (tone/colour) in which we manifest ourselves, Dimension would be the ‘canvas’ on which that energy is expressed. And I think their number is many. God’s universe has many mansions, my friend.

You didn't exactly elaborate on exactly what 'they' looked like and I wonder if you would care to do so, in that I am interested. Also, what 'types of conversations' did you carry on with them? Did the subject of 'God' ever come up?

No surprise to you I’m sure, but they looked like this:



Again, I do not believe these Grey beings are ‘evil’, just highly self-interested. But their methods, and the very nature of what they were doing, convinced me long ago that they do unto Human beings what Human beings do unto animals in a laboratory. I was ‘shown’ that in a very real, very disturbing way, and the image sticks fast in my mind, and will for the rest of my life. I saw ‘babies’, if that’s what you want to call them. Living beings that had been genetically created, and they were half us, half them.

It was my understanding that they were attempting to blend certain genetic attributes with their own, to create an offshoot race in effect. That is certainly true, I saw it with my own eyes. But is it for our benefit as well as theirs, such as they claim? I do not know. I have my doubts. For with them there is never a straight answer, and the very fact that they would take me against my will, with physical force implies to me that all they were doing was not for our benefit.

But there were not ‘demonic’ in the way mythology or theology would understand it. There were of biology, of physicality, and had technology.

The following might be an example of how and why there is confusion concerning a possible ‘extra-dimensional’ origin. Because they have the ability to completely circumvent physical matter, and simply phase in and out of what we can observe and perceive in our material surroundings. This is the most insane and uncanny thing I ever experienced, but I did experience this first hand. On one abduction I was lifted out of bed ‘somehow’ by three beings that had presented themselves at the foot of my bed. Next, a bright swirling light appeared in the wall next to me on my right side, almost like a vortex of coloured light turning around and around, and I was floated – directed – into that, and passed through. I literally went through the wall! as if I were a damn ghost of something. It was absolutely terrifying. My heart was like a jackhammer. What was on the other side? I don't remember. So much I don’t remember. As for the fragments of ‘conversation’ I do recall (telepathic in nature), there is nothing concrete that I can offer to answer your question. Nothing very useful anyway. Usually it was in the shape of ‘don't worry, we will not harm you… all is well,’ etc.

No they didn’t harm me. But only if you call being pulled out of bed against your will and whisked away to God knows where, ‘not harmful’. I was always returned safe and sound though. Sometimes I’d be sitting on my bed, as if I’d just ‘appeared’ there, having no recollection of what had just happened. Other times… well, I knew well enough. Their technology is not infallible, for in fact one of my clearest memories of these interactions came one night in ’96 when I ‘awoke’ right in the middle of the abduction process. This was not (and never is, I feel) their intention. They do not want you awake. But human Will… it is formidable.

So I woke up, paralysed, and on the verge of breaking that paralysis. The being who was conducting this, I saw him very plainly on the other side of the room. He panicked! Lol. Come on then you bastard what you gonna do now! I thought. I soon discovered. He produced a long metallic device, like a thick pen with a light at the end. He came over to me, right over the bed so he was looking down into my eyes. In fact I felt a discernible sense of concerned interest on his part, as if he were thinking: ‘Oh darn, he woke up, and he’ll remember this!’ Damn right I will, mate! Anyway next thing I know he put this device into my right ear. Blackout. Absolutely instantaneous light’s out. Next thing I know – the very next immediate thing I know, as if I had instantly travelled forward in time, like this was the next consecutive second – it was daylight, I’m sitting up in bed and it’s 8am and the birds are singing, and traffic is moving on the road outside.

I’ve had examinations and consultation with doctors, psychologists, counsellors, you name it. Clueless every one. No one in our society can help, support, understand (much less believe) any of these things except other people who have experienced them. I had doctors tell me that it was ‘sleep paralysis’ – a natural somnambulistic anomaly of the mind that can produce hallucinations etc etc. Bull….S**t! Sorry for the profanity but this ignorance gets to me. The doctor in question very swiftly shut up when I told him of another experience when, ‘hey, I wasn’t even in bed this time doc. I wasn’t even undressed yet. I was getting ready for bed but still wide awake, aware, and actually had just watched a movie on my TV – I went to the bathroom to brush my teeth and lo and behold, standing there on the upstairs landing was this ‘being’ (see picture, a close enough representation), just standing there plain as could be! – physical, real. Real.’

Guess what I did? I walked past it, a little alarmed, but also mildly interested. And I felt emanating from it a strange, pacifying force – not ‘love’ per se, but intense calm. That is all. And so I went about my business and brushed my teeth, continued with my nightly routine as if everything was normal! I didn’t think much more about it until the next day, when I had to take my dog to the vet because he was sick. He was paralysed in all of his limbs!! Couldn’t even move the poor thing, thought he was dying. Bam! Connection made. I myself had no recollection of what transpired during the night, even if anything did. But I considered my dog. If that being was swanning around my upstairs bathroom – an intruder – where was my dog?! Dogs hear, and intuitively sense, more than we give them credit for. So it stands to reason that when these beings come they incapacitate your pet poste-haste. Just so you know my dog was fine the day after, with no lingering effects. He was paralysed for one night only.

So Mr Doctor man, dream, hallucination, a figment of my sleeping mind? Hahaha!

But am I bitter about it, now, these many years later? No, not any more. For a long while I suffered a great deal (alone) with all these things that were happening. It almost sent me over the edge. Spent years sitting up awake at night until the light of dawn came in the window. Only then did I sleep.

Instinctively I believe I was not ultimately a ‘cooperative’ subject for them. I did not acquiesce. In fact, on one occasion I actually ‘hit one’, smacked him right in the chops. I am not proud of it, but when you’re dragged out of bed in the middle of the night by real, genuine, in-your-face, gosh-darn extra-terrestrial creatures, what the hell are you supposed to do!!?

Some form of intervention stopped it all, sent them packing. Call it ‘Spirit’, God, or positive ETs protecting me, I don’t know. But I have not seen them since 1997. But other things have happened, other experiences, other things shown to me. And they are from a ‘positive’ source, a spiritual one. But I don't know what, and I don’t know from where. But I am convinced that where there are negative ET influences on earth at this time, manipulating many things behind the scenes, there are positive ET influences working against them on our behalf. To what end, I don’t know. We shall see.

Note: as this kind of stuff will be interest to others who perhaps don’t check this bible thread, I’m gonna make a separate thread with the same story in the UFO section.

[kreagle]

Star Mariner,

You mention the frustration you encountered with the many 'specialists/professionals' you had examinations and consultations with, in them not understanding, (much less believing), your ordeal. Even though I don't know you, personally, ( other than what I've gathered and processed over this thread), I will state, once again, that I do believe your experience to have happened 'exactly' as you have stated it here. Not so much on yours, and my, 'limited relationship', but because of the 'recurring theme' that I see, and have heard, playing 'over and over',.....time after time. It's, eerily, pretty much the 'same story',....just with the 'names changed' and different locations.

I'm going to 'quote' a few of your comments and I ask you 'follow my line of thinking', here, my friend,......

Again, I do not believe these Grey beings are ‘evil’, just highly self-interested. But their methods, and the very nature of what they were doing, convinced me long ago that they do unto Human beings what Human beings do unto animals in a laboratory. I was ‘shown’ that in a very real, very disturbing way, and the image sticks fast in my mind, and will for the rest of my life. I saw ‘babies’, if that’s what you want to call them. Living beings that had been genetically created, and they were half us, half them.

It was my understanding that they were attempting to blend certain genetic attributes with their own, to create an offshoot race in effect. That is certainly true, I saw it with my own eyes. But is it for our benefit as well as theirs, such as they claim? I do not know. I have my doubts. For with them there is never a straight answer, and the very fact that they would take me against my will, with physical force implies to me that all they were doing was not for our benefit.

This is not the 'first time' I have heard a 'variation of this same story', brother! Too many 'others' have, essentially, related the same account of their experience, which virtually 'mirrors' yours, Star Mariner.

Other 'abductees', ( especially female abductees), have been led into large rooms where they were shown a 'variety of babies', and instructed to 'hold, feed, and bond with them'. Ultimately,....they were 'all' asked the same question,......."Can you see any difference between 'you' and 'us'?,...to which many of the 'human female abductees' would agree with the 'subtle directions' of their 'captors' by saying that they 'couldn't tell any difference'!

Star Mariner, let me take you to a 'point in the Scriptures' where it appears this all had 'it's beginning',....my friend.

Lucifer, ( now known as Satan), rebelled against God, and attempted to 'exalt himself' above God. ( Isaiah 14:12-15) In his 'attempted coup' Lucifer had managed to 'corrupt and influence' one-third of the angels, (referred to as 'stars'), and they, along with Lucifer were cast out, to the earth, and expelled from heaven. (Revelation 12:4, 9)

Isaiah 14:12-15 (KJV)

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.


and,.......


Revelation 12:4 (KJV)

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.



9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


And it's with this 'casting out' from heaven, that Satan, (and his minions), have embarked upon their ultimate, and total, agenda,....and that is precisely revealed to us in the latter portion of Revelation 12:9,....'which deceiveth the whole world',....

This 'massive deception plan', ( originally started in the Garden of Eden), seemingly 'kicked itself into high gear' with the implementation of a 'hybrid plan' involving the cross-breeding of humans with these 'fallen angels'.


Genesis 6: 1-8 (KJV)

6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.


While this 'unholy union' produced giants, ( Goliath, etc.), in this particular case, there have been other variations of results from this 'hybrid program' that they have forced upon mankind through their many abductions. Literally, it's through these 'variations of results', over the many, many years of abductions, and impregnating between humans/fallen angels, (ED's), that we find the results of what you accurately relay,.......

I saw ‘babies’, if that’s what you want to call them. Living beings that had been genetically created, and they were half us, half them.

It was my understanding that they were attempting to blend certain genetic attributes with their own, to create an offshoot race in effect. That is certainly true, I saw it with my own eyes.

To me, this easily explains the wide variety of 'results' they have encountered over the history of mankind. The 'Greys',....'Pleiadians',......'Reptilians',......'The Tall Whites',...(just to name a 'few',.....of their many 'hybrid experimentations', at our expense).


As I understand it, ( from a Scriptural point of view), there's at least a two-fold agenda, in what they are endeavoring to accomplish, here,....and 'both' of them are, of course, evil and satanic, by design. The 'first', being to simply pollute the pure 'human bloodline' of God's Creation, you and I, and to render the, 'half human/ half alien, ED', offspring incapable of being redeemed back to the Creator, God. The 'second' reason could possibly come down to a literal 'numbers game'. Perhaps they are desperately trying to 'increase their numbers' because,......let's face it,.....they faced a 'two-thirds deficit', to begin with, with God retaining two-thirds of the angels, ( who did not fall in the 'rebellion' from heaven), on that fateful day.

(Note: I would not begin to 'endorse' this 'second reason', and only mention it because it sounds very plausible. Fallen angels, ( even Satan himself), have no 'creating powers', so they are unable to 'create' their ranks, but have been forced to utilize alternative methods to 'increase their numbers.' Of course, even if the 'numbers' were in 'reverse', with God being on the 'minority side of the numbers game', it still wouldn't matter. 'Numbers don't trump the One who created the numbers, themselves!,......The creation will never be able to outdo the Creator. Of this, we can be sure of!)

Star Mariner, you seem to question and, basically deny, that they are 'demonic or evil', in one breath,.....but with the next breath,...you, quite candidly, acknowledge the opposite, my friend.

But is it for our benefit as well as theirs, such as they claim? I do not know. I have my doubts. For with them there is never a straight answer, and the very fact that they would take me against my will, with physical force implies to me that all they were doing was not for our benefit.

also,......

No they didn’t harm me. But only if you call being pulled out of bed against your will and whisked away to God knows where, ‘not harmful’.

Perhaps your 'definition of demonic and evil' are different from mine,.....but, quite frankly, I doubt it very much, for interwoven in your overall post, here, you really do answer that, don't you?


In response to my question, to you, about the contents of your communications with them, you write,.......

As for the fragments of ‘conversation’ I do recall (telepathic in nature), there is nothing concrete that I can offer to answer your question. Nothing very useful anyway. Usually it was in the shape of ‘don't worry, we will not harm you… all is well,’ etc.

Brother, I think that 'if' you will look within your post, you will find the 'answer' to the question that is 'alluding you, here',.....for it is, indeed, woven into your message, once again! To me it is 'very useful' for it further highlights their 'true nature',....

For with them there is never a straight answer,......

There's a very easy, explainable reason for 'this', my dear friend.

my quote, to you, earlier,......

And it's with this 'casting out' from heaven, that Satan, (and his minions), have embarked upon their ultimate, and total, agenda,....and that is precisely revealed to us in the latter portion of Revelation 12:9,....'which deceiveth the whole world',....

We don't have to fall prey to 'this deception', brother! We have 'all' been adequately warned, in the Scriptures, what we are 'wrestling with',....and who 'our opponent' actually is!


Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

It's not a 'carnal war', brother, (nor a 'extraterrestrial one').....it's a 'spiritual one', my dear friend!


(note: I would like to 'also' post this to the 'thread you began', ( Cometh the little Grey men), for a reference point, ( and benefit), for 'all',....but not without your knowledge, and permission, first, brother!)


Your brother, friend, and servant,......kreagle

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Star Mariner

Have you found any implants? Typically a lump near or around the jaw line or around the middle upper section of the fore arm?

Were you harmed in any way? Did you feel fine and refreshed when you came to?

When you were concious di you hear a whooshing sound behind the left ear, like a little cooling fan speeding up and slowing down rapidly?

N

[kreagle]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Star Mariner

Have you found any implants? Typically a lump near or around the jaw line or around the middle upper section of the fore arm?

Were you harmed in any way? Did you feel fine and refreshed when you came to?

When you were concious di you hear a whooshing sound behind the left ear, like a little cooling fan speeding up and slowing down rapidly?

N

Nanoo Nanoo,

Welcome, brother! With your question about the 'implants', I was just wondering if you've seen any of the 'video clips' of Dr. Roger Leir, who has performed many operations to remove such 'implants' from a great deal of these abductees? Pretty fascinating, if you ask me. Of course, this doesn't alter any of the 'views' that I've expressed, earlier, but rather enhances their 'deceptive agenda' that they have bombarded humanity with.

Thanks for the added input, and please add more, as you see fit, my friend!


Your friend, brother, and servant,........kreagle

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by kreagle (here)

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Star Mariner

Have you found any implants? Typically a lump near or around the jaw line or around the middle upper section of the fore arm?

Were you harmed in any way? Did you feel fine and refreshed when you came to?

When you were concious di you hear a whooshing sound behind the left ear, like a little cooling fan speeding up and slowing down rapidly?

N

Nanoo Nanoo,

Welcome, brother! With your question about the 'implants', I was just wondering if you've seen any of the 'video clips' of Dr. Roger Leir, who has performed many operations to remove such 'implants' from a great deal of these abductees? Pretty fascinating, if you ask me. Of course, this doesn't alter any of the 'views' that I've expressed, earlier, but rather enhances their 'deceptive agenda' that they have bombarded humanity with.

Thanks for the added input, and please add more, as you see fit, my friend!


Your friend, brother, and servant,........kreagle

No i havent seen the videos But i have had several removed. I removed one from my jaw by my self once. It was the size of a poppy seed. It was grey in colour and harder than a diamond. I removed it and put it on the tip of my right index finger to examine it and it seemed to jump off my finger and fall in the drain.

I was shocked and laughed. I have actually had alien surgeons remove my implants for me.

I still have one i believe in my right eye but thats genetically passed on. So my guess is i may have had hybriid ancestors? Who knows, but im actually getting a lot out of my contact.

N

[kreagle]

Nanoo Nanoo,

No i havent seen the videos But i have had several removed. I removed one from my jaw by my self once. It was the size of a poppy seed. It was grey in colour and harder than a diamond. I removed it and put it on the tip of my right index finger to examine it and it seemed to jump off my finger and fall in the drain.

I was shocked and laughed. I have actually had alien surgeons remove my implants for me.

I still have one i believe in my right eye but thats genetically passed on. So my guess is i may have had hybriid ancestors? Who knows, but im actually getting a lot out of my contact.

Of the 'several' that you say you've had removed,....what purpose(s) do you think they served. Has anybody ever really investigated this to see? Other than the obvious intentions to 'monitor' a person,....I wonder what these 'devilish imps' are up to?

Love and Peace,.......kreagle

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by kreagle (here)
Nanoo Nanoo,

No i havent seen the videos But i have had several removed. I removed one from my jaw by my self once. It was the size of a poppy seed. It was grey in colour and harder than a diamond. I removed it and put it on the tip of my right index finger to examine it and it seemed to jump off my finger and fall in the drain.

I was shocked and laughed. I have actually had alien surgeons remove my implants for me.

I still have one i believe in my right eye but thats genetically passed on. So my guess is i may have had hybriid ancestors? Who knows, but im actually getting a lot out of my contact.

Of the 'several' that you say you've had removed,....what purpose(s) do you think they served. Has anybody ever really investigated this to see? Other than the obvious intentions to 'monitor' a person,....I wonder what these 'devilish imps' are up to?

Love and Peace,.......kreagle

Hey Kreagle

Well i cant nor really nobody can confirm what they do unless they have sucessfully managed to reverse engineer one so i cannot judge.

However! I can make an educated guess. Even when they were in i never suffered any problems. I was a well balanced person, always positive, caring and studious. I never strayee from the law so to speak and ive always had a healthy interest in religions. I do believe in a god of sorts.

So do i think the implants were used to make me do evil deeds etc? No. But id think they are monitoring devices. And to monitor an individual can be for many reasons. Anything from medical monitoring, to mange the individuals health, which i did have troubles with here and there. To manage or monitor ones emotional state.

It was mentioned in another thread that ETs have lost the ability for emotion so they may be trying to re learn emotion. This is a theory however i dont think it applies to the ETs i am in touch with, on the contrary i find them very caring an concerned with me and us and whats happening on earth.

They may also be tracking devices to find you when needed. I often pray or meditate and it seems that they facilitate my prayers. Its a strange one to swallow. One thing is a lot of my interaction is so complex and in order to make an aprasil thats conclusive as to whats going on then i cannot in all faith derive one. However their interaction with me has always been respectful and beneficial to me. So id have to say the faction of ET i am in contact with seem to be extremely benevolent and caring.

Thank you for your interest, i hope its been helpful :-)

N
N

[kreagle]

Telling on myself!


I'm sure most of us can relate to those situations in life that prove to be uncomfortable, and you'd just as soon to forget and certainly not share with anyone. I have shared, with many of you, my personal testimony which goes back 32 years ago, to February 22, 1981, when I first received the Spirit of God. I would like to have been able to report to all of you that my life has been 'clear sailing' from that moment until now, and that I 'continued steadfastly in my walk with God' from that moment until now, but that wouldn't be entirely true. Even with my 'new-found passion in life', (the glorious infilling of the Holy Ghost), I found out at a later date that I was still indeed a 'human being' after all. Consequently I acquired a 'skeleton in my closet' that I wish to 'bring out' and reveal to each of you, in hopes of genuinely helping each of you to better understand some of the things I have been endeavoring to share with you, here.

A 'series of events', ( which I won't go into, in depth), caused me to become 'disillusioned and disgruntled' with my 'consistent Church attendance' which resulted in me, and my entire family, to stop going to Church for a number of years. I spoke briefly on this in my OP, and somewhat revealed the 'hurt' that I, and my family, had undergone because of it. I thought, at the time, that we would be 'better off not going to Church' for the time being, but little did I realize that I was doing the 'worst thing possible!'

It was during this period of time, ( away from the Church), that I found myself growing, ( slowly, but surely), colder and colder in my walk with God. Oh, I still,......prayed to Him,.......worshipped Him in my own way,......loved Him, etc.,.....but there's no substitution for the privilege of being able to 'attend regular Church services' with your brothers and sisters! It's 'there' that we are able to 'recharge and replenish' our own 'spiritual batteries', so-to-speak, and to be able to successfully maintain our walk with God. Without Church attendance your 'batteries will run down',......take it from somebody who knows! It's no wonder the Scriptures warn us to not let down on 'assembling ourselves together', in reference to Church attendance.


Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.


This brings me to the point where I wish to share with each of you, exactly. what transpired in my life during a time when I had allowed my 'spiritual batteries' to become, alarmingly, too low.


This 'event' took place approximately ten years ago, when I found myself being, suddenly, awakened in the middle of the night. I want to make it clear, in that, I didn't 'see' anything, ( ie. Grey men, etc.), but 'words can't accurately describe' the horror, and the feeling, that I had when I suddenly realized that 'something/someone' was in my bedroom, with an evil agenda to carry out. My room was 'icy cold', ( not wintertime, or AC related, either), and the overwhelming feeling of 'evil' was absolutely saturating the entire room! On top of this, it's hard for me to fully explain the 'total helplessness' I felt, for I found myself to be 'totally petrified',.....I could not, literally, move a muscle,....I was 'stiff as a board',.....and totally at the 'mercy' of whatever this 'evil force' had in mind. It was there, and then, that I instinctively remembered and 'turned back to my spiritual training', and I remember telling myself,...."if I can just manage to say the name of 'JESUS',.....I'll be alright!" Panic seemed to suddenly intensify because I was finding that I was so paralyzed that I couldn't even speak! What was I to do now?! In one last 'desperate and determined' attempt, I literally had to force myself, ( with all my force), and was 'just barely able' to mouth out,....."Jjjj...eee...sss....uuu....sss!!!" ( Thank God, I still had 'enough' juice in my battery!)


Even though it was 'garbled and bordered on stuttering', that 'name' of JESUS, was readily recognized by the 'evil spirit', ( or was it an attempted ED abduction?), that had attempted to invade my home with it's wicked agenda. Immediately, upon hearing His name,....JESUS,......there was a complete reversal of 'evil presence' in the room, and a blissful presence of 'warmth and comfort' totally replaced what had just been a 'total hell hole' just a moment, earlier!

Even though I had been guilty of 'temporarily abandoning His Church', I had just learned, first hand, that He was still faithful to me, as His word points out,......


Psalm 9:10 (KJV)

10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, Lord, hast not forsaken them that seek thee

and,....


Hebrews 13:5 (KJV)

5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.


Needless to say, it was only a short period of time after that, that God led myself and my family back to a 'wonderful Church' where we have learned to 'maintain' our walk with Him, and our 'fellow believers in Him!'

I 'wince in spiritual agony' when I see the 'magnitude and multitude' of reports that are so 'similar to mine' but wind up in such an opposite direction as mine has! There is absolutely no reason for these 'abductions/possessions' to happen in the first place when we have access to His name, through the infilling of His Spirit. Now let me be clear, in saying that one will definitely need to be 'filled with His Spirit' in order to be fully able to accurately deploy the power behind His name. In connection to this, I ask you to notice this passage,......

Acts 19:13-17 (KJV)

13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth

14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.

15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.


I think it should be clear, from this Scriptural account, that one needs to be 'filled with His Spirit', like Paul was, ( and thankfully me, too!), to be fully recognized and heeded by these 'evil spirits/beings'. It's one thing to be able to 'utilize and deploy the power behind His name',.......and another thing 'entirely different' just to casually throw His name around because you've simply 'heard others use it',.....like these individuals did in the passage I have supplied for you.

Something 'evil and sadistic' tried its' best to 'possess/abduct' me on that night approximately ten years ago!


I sure am glad I knew,....'then',......how to use the 'name' of JESUS!!


So that I could tell you all about it,.....'now!'


Many people go to bed with a 'pistol' by the nightstand. In reality you can go to bed with a 'bazooka on one side of the bed and a Abram tank on the other side', and it won't matter one iota to 'these types of entities, my dear friends.' You still won't be safe from what they can do to you, and we both know it, don't we?

I go to bed with the comfort of the name, Jesus, nestled within my soul. It's no wonder why I sleep so soundly!

Proverbs 18:10 (KJV)

10 The name of the Lord is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.


'Arm yourself' accordingly, my brothers, and sisters!


Love and Peace,.....your friend,..........kreagle

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by kreagle (here)
Star Mariner,
You mention the frustration you encountered with the many 'specialists/professionals' you had examinations and consultations with, in them not understanding, (much less believing), your ordeal. Even though I don't know you, personally, ( other than what I've gathered and processed over this thread), I will state, once again, that I do believe your experience to have happened 'exactly' as you have stated it here. Not so much on yours, and my, 'limited relationship', but because of the 'recurring theme' that I see, and have heard, playing 'over and over',.....time after time. It's, eerily, pretty much the 'same story',....just with the 'names changed' and different locations.

Thanks my friend for listening. They were as absolutely real, as tangibly real as this very moment in which I am tapping away on my keyboard!

Lucifer, ( now known as Satan), rebelled against God, and attempted to 'exalt himself' above God. ( Isaiah 14:12-15) In his 'attempted coup' Lucifer had managed to 'corrupt and influence' one-third of the angels, (referred to as 'stars'), and they, along with Lucifer were cast out, to the earth, and expelled from heaven. (Revelation 12:4, 9)

Okay, I understand how and why you’ve reached your hypothesis, and what shapes your belief structure. But we just come from different schools of thought when it comes to the Old Testament origin of this myth, which defines that hypothesis. And that’s truly fine my friend, but like I said (and I think we both said it) we will simply have to agree to disagree. Again fine. But for further clarity, I’ll respond to the issues you raise with my hypothesis:

I comprehend the foundations of the tale of Lucifer/Satan, fallen angels etc – beings who presented themselves in a grand masquerade which ‘misled’ mankind. I think rather Mankind misled himself. And this is where our respective outlooks diverge. The revelation and visitation of these beings, who interacted with early mankind and bred with them, ultimately screwed it all up and were thrown down, (Atlantis), all of it, all of it were ETs, ETs, ETs. And all of it was recorded, written, rendered, and reduced by mankind’s pre-technological, pre-cosmological, understanding into folklore. ETs = Gods. Gods = ETs. (not the One God, you understand.)

But they would have seen it / perceived it, no other way. Thus these tales can only reach us today as they were written, and through their ancient eyes: in fable/myth-form. And we receive them in a way no different than any other fable/myth, such as the Arthurian stories, or Hercules etc. It ain’t how it actually happened though! The minds of primitive man condenses true events that he cannot possibly comprehend into a mythological constructs, (and most often with religious flavouring for good [controlling] measure). This is what mythology IS.

And myths have a tremendous impact on the cultures that inherit them. Fortunately, today, if we can withdraw from the traditions that hold us in intellectual bondage; we can discern, with freedom of thought. I think we can be quite certain that, for example, the Titan called Prometheus was not tied to rock as a punishment for stealing fire from Olympus, and an eagle did not every day tear out his liver. But a nation believed it once, believed it as part of their religion. But it was a myth. A story perhaps that had a real origin, but gathered moss, accumulated mass and dimension – became a thing of tradition… a thing of institutionalized religious belief. Even natural disaster, a flood, an earthquake, a plague, was the work of God, or of Zeus, or of Baal, or what the heck ever. Because our primitive ancestors could see it no other way. Of Prometheus for example again, you’d be shouted down by your fellow Greeks for speaking out against it, and calling it a myth, maybe even killed for blaspheming thus. But Prometheus was a myth. It always was a myth, and drawn more than likely from an actual (misunderstood) event/account.

So is all Genesis. Because, we can discern things today. And we can discern today ‘what is mythology’? And that is ancient stories written, rendered, and reduced by mankind’s pre-technological, pre-cosmological, understanding into folklore.

To see this relaised, we must first throw away tradition. Yes, the tradition that makes us feel comfortable, and sure-footed in our perspective. Because for generations we have known nothing else. We depend on it because it is bred into our very hearts and minds, and is oh so safe. But it deceives… because all myths do.

But Genesis has an actual origin, a true source that has been coloured, distorted, and extruded through those times to arrive, eventually, today, in a legendary story of how it all came into being. Gods, fallen angels, Adam and Eve, Satan, elohim, all of it had a source that surrounded extra-terrestrial shenanigans thtat sought to administer, create, and perfect the Human Experiment on earth – us, Humans, as a vessel to contain and transport newly incarnating souls, many from their own species. Humans are a conglomeration of species. Creation theory is, in fact, a little bit more correct than Evolution. But Creationism forgets that it draws its information from a myth-story about as empirically accurate as Prometheus, or for instance the Popol Vuh, the Mayan Creation Myth, which is no more or no less valid than the Judeo-Christian one. Because they are the same: ancient myth written by ancient people based on events they did not understand. But the kernel of the truth-reality is there in both…

All of Genesis creation story is seen through the Judiastic lens-colour of a myth-story. And you can view the same story through Maya lens-colours too, or that of the Sumerian or Babylonian flavour, or the Greek, Egyptian, and hell even an Aboriginal. And it’s all pretty much the same thing. Which proves pretty much that it did happen this way. But not in the exact literal way presented. Those lenses were crafted and carved by people who are thousands of years dead. People who interpreted that ‘Beings’ who came down from the sky must be deities. And that deities must be beings who came down from the sky. There could be no other account for such a thing in their primeval thought. Yet these beings were absolutely real. And they were ultimately responsible for ‘making’ homo sapiens what it is, and seeding the embryonic beginnings of ‘civilization’. They engineered us, using indigenous proto-hominids as a template; increased our brain-size, introduced tool-use, the grasp of language, agriculture, basic morality and so forth. That is the story of human kind, so blatantly to those who draw from, and see around, the colouring lenses of myth.

I am real sorry mate. We will always differ in our interpretation of this. I keep with the NT account of Jesus and his mission, but the other stuff is ancient mythology, and no more accurate than Prometheus/Hercules/Titans et al. Perhaps it would be better not to dwell on these issues because neither one of us will ‘convince’ the other no matter what is said.

As I understand it, ( from a Scriptural point of view), there's at least a two-fold agenda, in what they are endeavoring to accomplish, here,....and 'both' of them are, of course, evil and satanic, by design. The 'first', being to simply pollute the pure 'human bloodline' of God's Creation, you and I, and to render the, 'half human/ half alien, ED', offspring incapable of being redeemed back to the Creator, God. The 'second' reason could possibly come down to a literal 'numbers game'. Perhaps they are desperately trying to 'increase their numbers' because,......let's face it,.....they faced a 'two-thirds deficit', to begin with, with God retaining two-thirds of the angels, ( who did not fall in the 'rebellion' from heaven), on that fateful day.

It could well be both, if you forget the satanic thing – unless you read satanic as ‘alien interference in human affairs.’ But I don’t know to be honest. The maze-rat never learns what the experiment is exactly for.

(Note: I would not begin to 'endorse' this 'second reason', and only mention it because it sounds very plausible. Fallen angels, ( even Satan himself), have no 'creating powers', so they are unable to 'create' their ranks, but have been forced to utilize alternative methods to 'increase their numbers.' Of course, even if the 'numbers' were in 'reverse', with God being on the 'minority side of the numbers game', it still wouldn't matter. 'Numbers don't trump the One who created the numbers, themselves!,......The creation will never be able to outdo the Creator. Of this, we can be sure of!)

‘Satanic’ is a religious sketch, a thought, a personification of evil, and not an actual organism, living with actual biology. So ‘it’ and ‘its’ fallen angels are not a group of highly advanced, technologically sophisticated Geneticists. These Greys are alien beings from elsewhere in space, and maybe time. And they can create, just like we can create. However, one can create anything one would wish to create… except ‘energy’. As ‘life’ is spirit, and spirit is energy, they cannot create energy: ergo, they cannot create life. Only the vehicle/means to carry life can be created. These Greys are doing what we now are learning to do (rightly or wrongly). We can create (clone) a lifeform in a laboratory. But this life by its very nature to be classified as ‘life’ has to be first imbued by God/The Universe or whatever to allow a spirit to enter in. Then it is life. But we cannot create the actual energy of that life-force. And neither can they.

Star Mariner, you seem to question and, basically deny, that they are 'demonic or evil', in one breath,.....but with the next breath,...you, quite candidly, acknowledge the opposite, my friend.

Being capable of deception, a lack of empathy, or even ill-treatment, does not make one evil. I am not evil and neither are you. But I promise you that at one time or another in our lives we’ve been quite capable, and even guilty, of these transgression. Even if we were children when we committed them. Yes I’ve never kidnapped anyone in the middle of the night. But like you yourself pointed out, it might be a numbers game for them. In many ways I think that’s true. So what we’re talking about is an extreme incentive for their modus operandi. And we see it on earth, extreme stakes that warrant extreme measures. Not that the ends justify the means, but if we consider the ultimate survival of their race might be at stake, we can see things more clearly from their point of view.

But no matter what they have done, they can redeem themselves. That is a voyage to God available to all sovereign Beings.

And I do very clearly see your own point of view mate, but the outlines of the vista before us blurs and diffuses when flushed with a scriptural lens. I wish you’d see that! My paradigm consists of a mountain of empirical evidence, some first-hand. Being of negative variety, or even just distinctly non-human looking would, in ancient times be branded devil/demons and such, and that myth is born. If want to look at the other type, recognized somewhat mystically as an ‘evil spirit, they are just fallen human beings that never advanced any further after death than the lower astral plane, and as such, roam the nether-world as a disembodied (and totally disenfranchised) entities. But the Greys are nothing like that. They don’t even belong to the terrestrial/earth spheres (physical or non-physical). They and their ilk are alien beings. They possess advanced technology. They have spaceships. Spaceships to fly in space, to go through space, and from the planet/system of origin to reach earth. I don’t know what else to tell you. But these two things are absolutely not the same.

I certainly don’t presume to know it all about these Grey aliens. But I know what they’re not, and I would certainly not tar them all with the same Evil brush. Then again just look at this word ‘evil’. I cannot say that ‘evil’ actually exists, not in the way many think, and that’s simply because they don’t understand what it actually is.

I’ve had ‘bad’ experiences with plenty of my own human compatriots. But that did not make them evil people. On one end of the spectrum of human condition we can find extreme hollowness – lack of love, extreme division from fellow beings, extreme estrangement from God. If you want to call that evil, that’s fine, it’s just a word. But it’s a distorted word that carries a heavy and dark connotation loaded with religious symbolism. Words do this all the time. We’ve talked about it before – words mislead, take on an energy all of their own to create a strong bias in discernment. Consider the word ‘love’, at the other end of the spectrum. Love gets similarly distorted in the English language, and others. “I love tea, I love the Beatles, I love my books, I love it when she wiggles her behind.. etc etc.” (Actually I ‘like’ all of these things but they are not ‘love’.) Many are very quick attribute ‘love’ to a thing, and very quick to call a reprehensible act they hear about on the news, ‘evil’, or that rapist or murderer ‘an evil person’. But that does not make them a demon, or the Devil’s son on earth. The word ‘evil’ creates an automatic religious prejudice in our thinking, and shapes our thought-process. In my opinion, ‘evil’ individuals such as these (like so many on our planet) exist in a state of spiritual separation and ignorance, and to a very high degree, and their psychology (maybe even neurology) has become extremely distorted/overthrown by negative energy/impulses etc. They become addicted to it – the Positive in them diminishes/atrophies, and conscience fails.

But evil? Call it what you will. I prefer the term: ignorance. All that is done contrary to God is merely in ignorance of God. (in varying degrees of severity).

I told you my hypothesis on the nature of fallen angels, but going back to the Greys as Devils, that is not them either. They are not the Christian adaptation of that thing they call ‘evil’. The Greys are… just extra-terrestrial entrepreneurs. You could perhaps brand them the same way as say, venture capitalists, a corporate conglomerate, an underground political movement… Ah, see a correlations here? In our current plight on this planet might we observe, behind the scenes, a force that is manipulating everything, ultimately, to their advantage?

If you want to call it evil as in ‘revolting’, or ‘immoral’, than I’m right with you. But not evil as in ‘satanic’.

If you’re ready to believe in UFOs and these kinds of non-terrestrial visitations, kreagle, I applaud you I really do. There are many religious folk who will not give any of this even the time of day! But, I hope you take a subjective stance over the whole subject matter. By that I mean take note of the many very positive (non-Grey) type encounters, landings, contactee reports and so forth. If you are ready to believe in the negative, but not the positive, there is an indication there that something isn’t right.

Anyway, observe the perspective of the positives. They give us a very clear picture as to what the Greys are, and represent. They are Alien, and if we think we are fighting a battle against them, well the positives have been fighting a war, and its been going on for millennia.

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

It's not a 'carnal war', brother, (nor a 'extraterrestrial one').....it's a 'spiritual one', my dear friend!

I wouldn’t disagree with that at all! It is a spiritual war, in ourselves, in order to overcome the darkness inside that separates ourselves from God – to overcome that ignorance. And there are ‘Powers’, as quoted in that passage, that would have us fail, and come under their yoke. If you want to see dark and satanic forces at work, look no further than them – our own species, and all the horrors that we see day in and day out taking place in our world.

And may I ask, just to wrap up this overlong post, what is your view of ‘extra-terrestrial’, kreagle, if not these Greys and all the other species visiting us? What of the millions of planets out there? What of the possibility of advanced civilizations out there? What, in your view, would constitute an actual ET/Alien lifeform?

cheers

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
Star Mariner

Have you found any implants? Typically a lump near or around the jaw line or around the middle upper section of the fore arm?

Were you harmed in any way? Did you feel fine and refreshed when you came to?

When you were concious di you hear a whooshing sound behind the left ear, like a little cooling fan speeding up and slowing down rapidly? N

Cheers Nanoo Nanoo. In 1995 I experienced profuse nosebleeds from my left nostril. As I understood it, the then fledgling investigative field of this type of phenomena, claimed that single-nostril nosebleeds were quite typical of the abduction scenario. When examined by a doctor he told me that he saw some deep and unusual scarring in the upper nasal cavity. No explanation was offered.

I have no recollection of a procedure which might be taken as an ‘implant’ being introduced to my body, nor have I found any such physical artefact that might be an ‘implant’. Except some markings. Quite often during those days, even after a night I couldn’t attribute to a visitation, I would discover, on waking, inexplicable markings/scars/patterns on my skin which I couldn’t account for. Once I awoke with a strange purple ‘tattoo’ like pattern on my shoulder (can’t remember which), and a circular pattern of red dots on the inside of a wrist. And many more. They usually always faded after about 1 day.

I don’t recall hearing the whooshing noise however. But I do get a lot of strange (and quite varying) tonal pitches in my ears. Similar to tinnitus I guess – high pitch noise. Comes and goes, moves up and down the scale…

[kreagle]

Star Mariner,

I am real sorry mate. We will always differ in our interpretation of this. I keep with the NT account of Jesus and his mission, but the other stuff is ancient mythology, and no more accurate than Prometheus/Hercules/Titans et al. Perhaps it would be better not to dwell on these issues because neither one of us will ‘convince’ the other no matter what is said.

Brother, there is absolutely no reason for you to apologize, in that I couldn't ask for a better discourse, even though we have differed as widely as we have on a number of points. You have been a 'gentleman' in every sense of the word, and true to your word, as you stated from the beginning. To that, I continue to tip my hat to you and express my deep gratitude! As I've said, earlier, and you, likewise,........"we'll just have to agree to disagree!"

I could not, and would not, begin to attempt to go to my Church, and continue my 'experience in God' with only a 'portion of His Word'. Believe it, or not, there are 'many' today, who do just that, because I've heard it with my own ears that they,....."don't believe this portion,......or.......don't believe this Prophet and/or Apostle, etc." Their Bibles have become so 'mutilated',.....with so many pages figuratively,.....missing, removed, eliminated,.....it blows my mind that they would even go to church to begin with. The Bible comes to a close, in Scripture, by solemnly warning each of us about the consequences of 'adding to,....or elimination from, His Word.' I take Him seriously on this, my dear friend. ( Revelation 22: 18-19)

If you’re ready to believe in UFOs and these kinds of non-terrestrial visitations, kreagle, I applaud you I really do. There are many religious folk who will not give any of this even the time of day! But, I hope you take a subjective stance over the whole subject matter. By that I mean take note of the many very positive (non-Grey) type encounters, landings, contactee reports and so forth. If you are ready to believe in the negative, but not the positive, there is an indication there that something isn’t right.

As I've stated, earlier, I am convinced that 'something' is out there,.....even though I've personally never seen them. There are too many sightings, events, stories, from a wide variety of knowledgeable, professional, military, and government officials for me to just 'flush this idea'. Couple that with my testimony of 'Telling on myself', indicates that I do have some 'first hand' experiences myself, also. Thank God I was 'equipped properly' to handle it,....' in JESUS name!'

In closing, here, I go back to one of your earlier comments that particularly stuck out to me,........

I saw ‘babies’, if that’s what you want to call them. Living beings that had been genetically created, and they were half us, half them.

While you and I don't have any problem with recognizing the 'us' part of the 'baby thing',........it's just the simple 'them' portion that we disagree on.


Your brother, friend, and servant,.......kreagle

[kreagle]

Star Mariner,

I hope you take a subjective stance over the whole subject matter. By that I mean take note of the many very positive (non-Grey) type encounters, landings, contactee reports and so forth.

I really believe if you'll just take a moment to think, you should easily be able to identify a number of situations that 'looked innocent, and harmless, enough from the onset',.....but in reality, turned out to be 'deadly, and disastrous, in the long run'. It happens all the time, and most 'victims' will readily admit, ( afterwards), that they were 'taken by complete surprise', and that 'it was the last thing that I expected!'

Proverbs 14:12(KJV)

12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

( note: Did you know that this 'exact same verse' is found, once again, two verses later in Proverbs 16:25? Do you think that God is being 'redundant', here, are do you think He is trying to 'tell, ( and warn), us about ourselves?')

If you are ready to believe in the negative, but not the positive, there is an indication there that something isn’t right

Brother, this is why the Word of God warns us 'all' to prove, ( put to test,.... check for authenticity), the many various scenarios of life that we are exposed to and then make the decision, ourselves, as to 'which category' that particular scenario belongs in. Literally, His Word is asking us,......"is it good,......or......is it evil?" Once His Spirit has enabled us to 'properly label' the particular scenario we being approached with, it is then 'our responsibility' to,......'accept and embrace the good',.....and......'reject and repel the evil!' His directions to us 'all' are very clear and concise regarding this.

1 Thessalonians 5:21-23 (KJV)

21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Now, I realize that there are those who will try to 'skirt around' this particular Scripture by stating,...."Hey, that's just the Apostle Paul speaking to the Church members in Thessalonica, and not necessarily to us!" Further examination of this should easily prove 'otherwise', for once this particular directive from Paul made It's way into the Holy Word of God, ( in Holy Writ), It became applicable for 'all',....'then.....and....now, also!'


2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


Hey, brother, I understand where you are coming from and respect your 'point of view'. We just seem to follow 'different handbooks', don't we? Of course, many of those OT Books and Biblical concepts that you have chosen to 'disallow' in your mind would come in pretty handy if they were allowed 'back into the picture', my dear friend!

God Bless you richly,.......your brother, friend, and servant,...........kreagle

[Beren]

I came to realization about what is a word of God.
Simply stated it's Christ. And it's power and it's Love.

Through human misunderstanding it came to be that people think that any written word is a word or the word of God.
I know for a fact that Bible is a word of God but cannot be THE word of God.
Simply because God is much bigger than Bible and cannot be contained in one book of any kind upon existence in whole universe.

(in even higher understanding everything is a word of God but depends of particular conscience who has or has not the ability to understand and see God's finger in everything)

Tendency of people with lower understanding thus conscience is to cut out any book with whom they are not acquainted. Also tendency is that as soon one grasps one literary work , the one starts to discard all other.

This is a symptom of the lower conscience. It's not bad per se .
Christ is a or the liberator.

He went completely against dogma and customs and religion. He explained by words and actions to people at that time what God is and not what what God WAS in their own eyes or creation.

We see this how actually Hebrews from humble beginnings created a God in their own image with vast system of rules & regulations of what God wants from people.
Reading through smaller books of prophets before the new testament it's clear that God sent messengers in the form of prophets to remind folks that he doesn't need their systems of worship.
He needs honesty, Love and understanding.

That's why immaterial Father- THE spirit - Creator has materialized in Christ to show the way and to walk the way.

People thought they killed him but again people do not understand that they cannot kill the spirit which can take any form and be anywhere it likes.

By learning deeper through Bible we see the higher realms of existence.
People get stuck in what religions do but message which goes though Bible is multidimensional.

Its about who we are - God's kids. And who we can become - God fulfilled.

It's multidimensional - never forget that.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Excellent thread, lots of good info.

N

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks for your reply kreagle, but regarding the positive encounters I briefly related, they are important to take heed of:

Posted by kreagle (here)
I really believe if you'll just take a moment to think, you should easily be able to identify a number of situations that 'looked innocent, and harmless, enough from the onset',.....but in reality, turned out to be 'deadly, and disastrous, in the long run'.

There are reams of material out there citing reports that were completely positive, completely inspiring, uplifting, and not one iota negative, or deadly or any such thing. There are so many that are absolutely, quintessentially good, in nature and in quality. And yes, experienced by religious and non-religious people alike. Just note of the testimony of the Christian who spoke in the video on the previous page! These are nothing at all like our Grey friends I can assure you…

And regarding your own tale in the post ‘Telling on Myself’, very interesting report mate. I think it highly likely that some ET presence or other was testing the water with you, assessing the nature of your spirit and resolve – and you won hands down! I don't know if you could see the whole room from where you were lying in bed, but they were there even if you couldn’t see them. Or at least they were very near...

I theorize that it is something to do with the inner Will, the fortitude of the Human Spirit, that draws them in the first place – our spiritual light. We have a powerful and admirable capacity for it, and it is something maybe they desire to incorporate in their genetic engineering experiments. And you’re absolutely right, even if we went to bed all pumped up, and loaded for bear, it would do no good against them at all. They may have advanced technology, but it is we who have advanced Spirits. Only from within can they be defeated.

I just want to clarify one thing regarding the old Testament:

Posted by kreagle (here)
Star Mariner,
Believe it, or not, there are 'many' today, who do just that, because I've heard it with my own ears that they,....."don't believe this portion,......or.......don't believe this Prophet and/or Apostle, etc." There Bibles have become so 'mutilated',.....with so many pages figuratively,.....missing, removed, eliminated,.....it blows my mind that they would even go to church to begin with.

I do not doubt it mate, but I wouldn’t be too harsh with them. Their disavowal of the OT (and my own) is mostly down to the ancient myth-stories, not the parables and wise words of the various Prophets and Apostles. My perception and revelation of God/Spirituality is not diminished by my releasing the arcane legends from which it all sprung. It’s the words of wisdom my friend, that is what I choose to take from it. The symbolic shapes and colours in the backdrop concerns me not at all.

There Bibles have become so 'mutilated',.....with so many pages figuratively,.....missing, removed, eliminated,.....it blows my mind that they would even go to church to begin with.

Aw matey… Judge not… etc etc… hehe. They go to church to be with God in their own manner, because after all it is their own heart and spirit here, so who are we, who is anyone, to question their personal relationship with God? Acknowledge all, love all, and be at peace with all.

But I know every bit this sensation of having the mind blown this way. We all feel it, when we look out on this world and wonder why on earth people don’t see it the way we can! Or understand/believe what we do! But kreagle my friend, we are all traveling the road of life in our own way, and at our own pace. And who are we to judge those who walk behind? We would be no better than those farther ahead who would turn to judge us…

[kreagle]

Their Bibles have become so 'mutilated',.....with so many pages figuratively,.....missing, removed, eliminated,.....it blows my mind that they would even go to church to begin with.


(your quote)
Aw matey… Judge not… etc etc… hehe. They go to church to be with God in their own manner, because after all it is their own heart and spirit here, so who are we, who is anyone, to question their personal relationship with God? Acknowledge all, love all, and be at peace with all.

But I know every bit this sensation of having the mind blown this way. We all feel it, when we look out on this world and wonder why on earth people don’t see it the way we can! Or understand/believe what we do! But kreagle my friend, we are all traveling the road of life in our own way, and at our own pace. And who are we to judge those who walk behind? We would be no better than those farther ahead who would turn to judge us…

Hey brother,

As always, thanks for your reply. What may appear to you as 'judging someones' walk with God' is more accurately meant to be a 'great concern' for my fellow 'classmates!' While there are plenty of 'religious students' today who are only concerned with their 'own personal grades/scores', and are seemingly indifferent to their 'fellow classmates' and the grades/scores they make,....I can assure you that I am not that type of individual, nor do I think you are, either. I care, very deeply, and I really endeavor to 'root for everyone',....and to readily avail myself for 'tutoring purposes'. The popular 'school theme' that we've all heard, as of late, states plainly,.......'leave no child behind',....indicating the responsibility that we, as a society, have to see to it that every child makes 'passing grades'. How much more should this 'theme' be equally adopted, and embraced, by the 'sincere religious student/teacher',.....with the obvious modification,.....'leave no soul behind?'

I'm sure you are in agreement with me, to this point, but my next statement may prove to be problematic to you, in that,....."how shall they pass if their 'textbook' has 'missing, removed, eliminated' pages from it?" The 'Christian of today', (that I spoke of in my quote), who has removed/eliminated these 'vital pages' from their 'textbook, the Bible' are going to desperately need them come 'test time', my friend. The 'Christian of today' may attempt to tell the Teacher,...."no thanks, this particular lesson, you are endeavoring to teach me, doesn't 'resonate with me',...so, if you don't mind,....I'll just 'sit this one out!' " While 'sitting these lessons out' may seem like the 'popular route' that many are employing today,....I will candidly tell you that this 'misguided system' won't 'grade out very well, in the end.'


2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Let me make it clear, that in no way am I trying to imply that I'm a A+ student, for I have to work, daily, to improve my walk with God. While there are days when I hoover around a B-, there are other days when I wonder if I'm passing 'at all!' It's then that I find that His Mercy and Grace allows me to 'find that special place of repentance' and I then find myself soaring back to the 'A range', where I need to be. I'd hate to think where I might be, with only a 'partial textbook',....but thankfully I don't have to worry about that!


Love and peace,......your brother, friend, and servant,........kreagle

[kreagle]

When I speak your Name

Another 'great song' for you about the 'power' that's behind the Name of Jesus! Hope you enjoy!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eygJlLn3vwc

Colossians 3:17 (KJV)

17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.


Love and Peace, to all,..........kreagle

[kreagle]

Grace of God


The 'precious' Grace of God. What does that mean to you?,.....and is there a 'lesson to be learned from it?'


Thoughts,.....anyone?



Your brother, friend, and servant,.........kreagle

[kreagle]

We Need You


Wonderfully 'soul stirring' with an extra bonus of 'spectacular scenery!'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-gi4aw989Xo