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    Dear All:

    I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over.

    Like sailing at sea, storms are not to be feared -- just to be handled. If one wanted to avoid storms, one should not be at sea at all. Here we are all on this planet this lifetime, and it wasn't a mistake. You chose to be here. You have a mission to accomplish.

    If you have a good boat and a good crew, then it's simply an adventure ... and, as a spin-off, a test and learning experience for everyone.

    It can be a great deal of fun. Nothing trivial is intended by that statement. As spiritual beings, we're all fun-loving dolphins swimming in the universal sea... and sometimes we find ourselves trapped in nets which we have to get out of. That's part of the adventure, too.

    The only real problem is remembering your mission. Not easy with Jason-Bourne-amnesia. Look for clues all around you: people you know, people you meet, the things that "happen to you", the coincidences and synchronicities, and what energizes you and keeps capturing your attention.

    Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

    You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

    Ask yourself these two questions today:
    • Am I doing what I came here to do?
    • Am I doing enough?
    (Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


    My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill

    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

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    Serendipity! Logan, thank you for reinforcing post #220. What a synchronistic rush!!! Please read with an open mind.

    I'd be interested in hearing your specifics or general solutions or what you are here to do.

    Peace,
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    Quote People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
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    Dear All:

    I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over..."

    "...Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

    You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

    Ask yourself these two questions today:
    • Am I doing what I came here to do?
    • Am I doing enough?
    (Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


    My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill

    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
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    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
    careful about walking in and insulting our members in a discussion thread...

    find a thread you are interested in...

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    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-...onance-a139791

    "DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

    The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



    And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

    "Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

    Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

    However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



    The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

    We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.
    David Icke once pointed out that roughly 95% of the brain is not understood as to its function, that roughly 95% of DNA is not understood as to its function and 4.6% of the universe is atoms (thus 95% ish is not) - An interesting correlation, hey?

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    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
    What you perceive as 'generalities', I see as 'metaphor'....we all respond from our own perspectives to the original OP.

    No need to be rude...

    It's all good, Logan.
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    Quote Posted by Logan (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Dear All:

    I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over.

    Like sailing at sea, storms are not to be feared -- just to be handled. If one wanted to avoid storms, one should not be at sea at all. Here we are all on this planet this lifetime, and it wasn't a mistake. You chose to be here. You have a mission to accomplish.

    If you have a good boat and a good crew, then it's simply an adventure ... and, as a spin-off, a test and learning experience for everyone.

    It can be a great deal of fun. Nothing trivial is intended by that statement. As spiritual beings, we're all fun-loving dolphins swimming in the universal sea... and sometimes we find ourselves trapped in nets which we have to get out of. That's part of the adventure, too.

    The only real problem is remembering your mission. Not easy with Jason-Bourne-amnesia. Look for clues all around you: people you know, people you meet, the things that "happen to you", the coincidences and synchronicities, and what energizes you and keeps capturing your attention.

    Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

    You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

    Ask yourself these two questions today:
    • Am I doing what I came here to do?
    • Am I doing enough?
    (Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


    My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill

    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
    If you notice I have thanked Logan for this post for a reason...because it should teach us a lesson...it should show us that not all are in the same place and that the place each of us is at is just one of many we can find ourselves at. We should welcome him into the conversation and share what has made us contribute so eagerly to this thread. Logan is as much a brother of ours as our closest friend, but seeing him as a threat is just a way of pointing to our own weakness. Logan's post jumped out at me and reminded me of when we were kids and played games and we held little secrets among the buddies and when an outsider came along we would often be quite nasty to him/her completely unwise to the lesson we may learn by inviting him/her in, or the negative attitude we were displaying by rejecting him/her.

    You cannot see the good around you when you keep on looking for the bad.

    Each has a part to play and the real truth of the matter is that we cannot grow without some conflict in our lives. We should welcome the differences of opinion we see in others as apposed to our own way of thinking...it gives us a chance to assess our direction and our attitude.
    Quote Many people think that they will become good just by doing no harm -- but that's a lie.... That way lies stagnation, mediocrity.VINCENT VAN GOGH, letter to Theo van Gogh, Oct. 1884
    In this quote we should look at "harm" as been a catalyst for the benefit of good.

    Love to All
    Ray

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    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-...onance-a139791

    "DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

    The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



    And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

    "Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

    Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

    However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



    The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

    We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.
    Belle thank you for your post...I have not read your links but the piece you quote makes a lot of sense, I try not to read too much.
    One thing I disagree with is that it talks about..."recovery of lost spirituality"...we have not lost anything, especially not spirituality. The current cycle of incarnating Beings are just younger and that is why they are here now...not to find their lost spirituality...but to gain more consciousness which would put them back into touch with their spirituality, which is and always will be there for ever. This may sound like a play on words but there is a big difference.

    We spend far too much time debating the pros and cons of DNA in our life...it is a scientific fact that DNA can be altered by though in the same way as it can be altered by sound and other vibration...remember everything is just vibration.
    Our DNA can be seen as good in the fact that we see such perfect examples of physical bodies on the earth, and in the same way, we also see distortion, in the form of birth defects which we find not only in the human species but also in the animal and plant kingdoms. So we could look at the physical side as 'normal' with small chances of some anomalies. We should also not forget that the brain as an organ is merely another physical organ and can also be subject to some defects, either from birth or from other self inflicted or external sources. With an abnormal brain we can have abnormal physical occurrences as well as possible consciousness issues. None of these brain defects, caused by any means, affects the real you, it only affects the current incarnation. It is like having a motorcar with a bad engine instead of one with a good engine. Your life will be restricted in accordance with the physical body condition in general.
    I know of many people who have physical problems but are still extremely plugged into the 'spiritual' life and the reason is that they have pushed aside this distraction and have risen above the physical defects of their body, they are doing a better job in a beat out old jalopy than most do in their million dollar limo.

    Now, the big question on peoples minds is - "who is preventing us from using the other 90% of our genes"...and the answer is... 'YOU'.
    Everything you ingest, and everything you listen to and everything you do in the form of your attitudes and your emotions and your mental thoughts are all playing a role in the 'unlocking' of your abilities to make use of the mystery part of the DNA. This part of the DNA is there waiting for each one to use it when they get the message.
    The reason why it is not 'activated' in general is because the collective mind of the human 'soul' is still young and inexperienced...but that does not mean it cannot be activated individually.
    The fact that science cannot understand this 'junk' DNA does not mean it cannot be activated or is not activated in some. The activation of this 'junk' DNA can be seen in the differences between a more advanced 'spiritual' person and a lessor 'spiritual' person. This should not make those more advanced than others think they are the chosen few, it only means that they are a little further down the road than most, and the position along this road is a result of all kinds of things...like...choice of purpose of an incarnation, age and experience of the 'soul'...In general, the more physical incarnations a Spiritual Being has been through the more experienced they would be in commanding the physical body, with some exceptions.

    The most important thing to keep in mind is that DNA is a multidimensional occurrence and apart from giving you your physical characteristics, it will be 'setup' and 'adjusted' specifically for each individual through the etheric body once the connection is made between the physical permanent atom of the body and the Spiritual Being who is about to incarnate into it. It is a complicated process which involves amongst other things your choices to do with your current life mission and here is the key to the amnesia people talk of...YOU have chosen your level of awareness based on your life's mission...there is no mystery or dark intention here.

    So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.

    Love to All
    Ray

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    Quote Posted by Logan (here)
    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
    Frustrating.

    Frustration - Not knowing, wondering if perhaps others know something but are not communicating it properly in a way you can relate too?

    Frustration - Worried that others may simply be wasting the time of yet others, or worse deliberately misinforming them?

    Frustration - that one is so clever they can see through all these tricks, but yet others remain gullible and fall for them?

    Frustration - that one is sane, yet others are acting as if they are mad/disturbed ?

    Its understandable.

    Its fixable.

    Ask questions... answer questions... teach or learn? Learn or teach? Which will it be today?

    Don't get upset.

    Keep going.
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    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-...onance-a139791

    "DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

    The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



    And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

    "Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

    Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

    However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



    The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

    We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.
    Belle thank you for your post...I have not read your links but the piece you quote makes a lot of sense, I try not to read too much.
    One thing I disagree with is that it talks about..."recovery of lost spirituality"...we have not lost anything, especially not spirituality. The current cycle of incarnating Beings are just younger and that is why they are here now...not to find their lost spirituality...but to gain more consciousness which would put them back into touch with their spirituality, which is and always will be there for ever. This may sound like a play on words but there is a big difference.

    We spend far too much time debating the pros and cons of DNA in our life...it is a scientific fact that DNA can be altered by though in the same way as it can be altered by sound and other vibration...remember everything is just vibration.
    Our DNA can be seen as good in the fact that we see such perfect examples of physical bodies on the earth, and in the same way, we also see distortion, in the form of birth defects which we find not only in the human species but also in the animal and plant kingdoms. So we could look at the physical side as 'normal' with small chances of some anomalies. We should also not forget that the brain as an organ is merely another physical organ and can also be subject to some defects, either from birth or from other self inflicted or external sources. With an abnormal brain we can have abnormal physical occurrences as well as possible consciousness issues. None of these brain defects, caused by any means, affects the real you, it only affects the current incarnation. It is like having a motorcar with a bad engine instead of one with a good engine. Your life will be restricted in accordance with the physical body condition in general.
    I know of many people who have physical problems but are still extremely plugged into the 'spiritual' life and the reason is that they have pushed aside this distraction and have risen above the physical defects of their body, they are doing a better job in a beat out old jalopy than most do in their million dollar limo.

    Now, the big question on peoples minds is - "who is preventing us from using the other 90% of our genes"...and the answer is... 'YOU'.
    Everything you ingest, and everything you listen to and everything you do in the form of your attitudes and your emotions and your mental thoughts are all playing a role in the 'unlocking' of your abilities to make use of the mystery part of the DNA. This part of the DNA is there waiting for each one to use it when they get the message.
    The reason why it is not 'activated' in general is because the collective mind of the human 'soul' is still young and inexperienced...but that does not mean it cannot be activated individually.
    The fact that science cannot understand this 'junk' DNA does not mean it cannot be activated or is not activated in some. The activation of this 'junk' DNA can be seen in the differences between a more advanced 'spiritual' person and a lessor 'spiritual' person. This should not make those more advanced than others think they are the chosen few, it only means that they are a little further down the road than most, and the position along this road is a result of all kinds of things...like...choice of purpose of an incarnation, age and experience of the 'soul'...In general, the more physical incarnations a Spiritual Being has been through the more experienced they would be in commanding the physical body, with some exceptions.

    The most important thing to keep in mind is that DNA is a multidimensional occurrence and apart from giving you your physical characteristics, it will be 'setup' and 'adjusted' specifically for each individual through the etheric body once the connection is made between the physical permanent atom of the body and the Spiritual Being who is about to incarnate into it. It is a complicated process which involves amongst other things your choices to do with your current life mission and here is the key to the amnesia people talk of...YOU have chosen your level of awareness based on your life's mission...there is no mystery or dark intention here.

    So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.

    Love to All
    Ray
    That's powerful, Ray. Thank you. The responsibility begins and ends with me. That's all and only good news. I know this most of the time. When I give my power away by believing some of the stuff that is out there, I trip myself up.

    With love,
    Paula

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    Quote Posted by Logan (here)

    People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.
    careful about walking in and insulting our members in a discussion thread...

    find a thread you are interested in...
    all of you know I wasn't trying to be rude, I just saw the train firing up and hopped in before the flames started...

    we are all friends and talking of subjects in Avalon where we can speak of anything without ridicule.

    new members drawn here for ETs and Conspiracies might have zero interest in Spirituality.

    the fact he looked is a start, the fact he doesn't understand is known...

    questions are good if asked in kind terms.

    I don't like seeing our youngsters flamed out before they get started...

    why are we here?

    to teach the Logans there is much more to this existence than what can be seen in black and white...

    I have many unknowns that are very important...

    will my conscious cease to exist when our Spirits step forward in our being?

    I like me though I'm not perfect...

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    Rocky doing the train thing....phew....


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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    "..all of you know I wasn't trying to be rude,.."
    Not even for a nano-second did I think you were rude. There are other ways for Logan to express a point.
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    Rocky doing the train thing....phew....

    LOL!!!

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    .....new members drawn here for ETs and Conspiracies might have zero interest in Spirituality.

    the fact he looked is a start, the fact he doesn't understand is known...

    questions are good if asked in kind terms.

    I don't like seeing our youngsters flamed out before they get started...

    why are we here?

    to teach the Logans there is much more to this existence than what can be seen in black and white...

    I have many unknowns that are very important...

    will my conscious cease to exist when our Spirits step forward in our being?

    I like me though I'm not perfect...

    What I was trying to draw forth is a link between conspiracies, science and spirituality....

    Yes, we all have 'spirituality genes' in our junk DNA available should we choose to activate it....tptb are spending a lot of time and money, almost manically, deciphering our DNA and experimenting with it, for what purpose, do you suppose?

    AriG in particular, and others, are concerned tptb are working on a way to turn portions of our DNA on and off to their benefit...to the point of AriG trying to set us on the path of some of the information she and the group she is with have proving tptb are trying to 'steal' or 'eliminate' our souls.

    Knowing they have spent thousands of years hiding true spirituality, I am led to believe there is something very important to us that they fear....could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...something hidden in our junk DNA? Could their focus on DNA be to find a way to turn off that portion of our junk DNA? Could there be a race for us to fully activate our junk DNA before tptb figure out how to turn it off?

    What better place to discuss such things than PA...where science and spirituality meet.

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    well just so eveyrone understands, your Spirit can not be turned off, once in communication with your conscious...

    you don't need to eat fruits and nuts to have gifts, meat is an important part of our diet.

    there are farmers producing food in areas it is not possible with normal seeds...

    what I am told is they don't want us all living for 200 years on social Security, so it might affect length of life...

    but then again starvation does it quicker...

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    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    ...could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...
    "True spirituality" is not a weapon. True spirituality emerges when the dependence on weapons to resolve conflict has become obsolete, along with the conditioned concept or belief in "Us vs Them".

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    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    ...could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...
    "True spirituality" is not a weapon. True spirituality emerges when the dependence on weapons to resolve conflict has become obsolete, along with the conditioned concept or belief in "Us vs Them".
    True, very true.
    Though in the mind of the negative polarized entity it`s THE weapon against it...



    hah , I never guessed that a single flower holds more energy within than all negative existence combined...

    Almost everybody doesn`t believe this but again how many knew or reached this true power?

    All of a sudden this gets new meaning: "Many are called but few are chosen."
    Or "broad is the road to destruction and narrow is the one for salvation..."

    Makes you think about the essence of the message.
    How many will trust this flower?
    How many will see its truth?
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Quote Posted by Belle (here)
    ...could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...
    "True spirituality" is not a weapon. True spirituality emerges when the dependence on weapons to resolve conflict has become obsolete, along with the conditioned concept or belief in "Us vs Them".
    True, very true.
    Though in the mind of the negative polarized entity it`s THE weapon against it...
    "True spirituality" includes the recognition that the only one we are wounding with our weapons is ourself.


    I have come into this world to see this:
    the sword drop from men's hands even at the height
    of their arc of anger
    because we have finally realized there is just one flesh to wound…

    I have come into this world to see this: all creatures hold hands as
    we pass through this miraculous existence we share on the way
    to even a greater being of soul,
    a being of just ecstatic light, forever entwined and at play
    with Him.

    I have come into this world to hear this:
    every song the earth has sung since it was conceived in
    the Divine's womb and began spinning from
    His wish,
    every song by wing and fin and hoof,
    every song by hill and field and tree and woman and child,
    every song of stream and rock,
    every song of tool and lyre and flute,
    every song of gold and emerald
    and fire,
    every song the heart should cry with magnificent dignity
    to know itself as
    God:

    for all other knowledge will leave us again in want and aching –
    only imbibing the glorious Sun
    will complete us.

    I have come into this world to experience this:
    men so true to love
    they would rather die before speaking
    an unkind word,
    men so true their lives are His covenant –
    the promise of hope.

    I have come into this world to see this:
    the sword drop from men's hands
    even at the height of
    their arc of rage
    because we have finally realized
    there is just one flesh
    we can wound.


    ~Hafiz

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    I clearly understand what you are saying abob, and agree...to a point.

    Have you ever had someone very upset with you...so upset their anger boils over and they want to start a fight...speaking normally at first and getting progressively louder. My initial reaction is to find my center, my calm and quiet place, and try to discuss the situation with them. It seems to inflame them and they get louder still....the more angry they get, the calmer I get. I cannot help it...when anger is present, I choose peace... I choose not to fight, but rather listen closely to their grievance and seek reconciliation of our differences.

    Is my lack of anger, my inner peace, a weapon? Their reaction would say yes. In my heart, I say no. What say you?
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    Quote Posted by christian (here)

    When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
    When goodness is lost, there is morality.
    When morality is lost, there is ritual.
    Ritual is the husk of true faith,
    the beginning of chaos.
    Thanks, Christian. Now I understand what "ritual" is.

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