The Perfect Storm

[sleepy]

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[araucaria]

Posted by sleepy (here)

Some storms converge and are absorbed by each other, becoming weaker, La Corte said. But if these two marry in the atmosphere, there would be widespread bad weather, a potentially historic storm, he said.
[B]"We can't find a time that this has happened before," he said.

The logic in these reports is all over the place, particularly in the above segment. It basically says, storms are known to cancel each other out. But if these two were to do the exact opposite, it would be pretty nasty. Well, true enough, pretty nasty is the opposite of pretty harmless. Then it says this worst-case scenario has not been seen before and so we're relying on models. Why not rely on experience and expect something pretty harmless as being the likelier scenario. The modeller admits to his model's "overdoing" things, but instead of compensating for that, he overdoes it himself. Having noted his weird use of the words "exciting" and "nicely", the reverse of common usage, I would tend to apply the same pinch of salt to his use of "something wicked". The healthy thing to do is to hope this turns out not too badly so that maybe it won't.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi sleepy. Living in Florida, every hurricane season we are deluged with dire predictions, and computer models. From much experience here, computer models are often times full of crap. (LOL) Even having said that, right now is the end of the traditional second peak of hurricane season. If there is going to be a threatening storm to the U.S. during this time, it will form either in the Caribbean, or Gulf of Mexico. These late season storms invariably interact with diving troughs of low pressure, which in layman's terms means cold fronts, as winter is coming on. They always then travel north, or northeast.

The main thoughts I've had about our new friend Sandy, living here on Florida's west coast, is that I'm relieved she didn't form a couple of hundred miles to the west, and then move north, which is actually more typical. Sometimes bad storms do happen, just like every other bad thing that can happen, but by and large stuff like this is just more of the same fear based mind control programming, that we have all come to know and love so much. (Sigh)

Cheers,
Fred

[Forevernyt]

Lucky for you Fred. I live in NJ.

There goes Halloween.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Forevernyt (here)
Lucky for you Fred. I live in NJ.

There goes Halloween.

Maybe.

[5thElement]

Three storms threaten to strike U.S. at once…. An "Arctic Express," a mass of cold air chugging south from Alaska and Canada, bringing frigid air and potentially heavy snow and ice to the usually mild-wintered Pacific Northwest.
• An unnamed warm, moist storm system from the Gulf of Mexico drenching the already-saturated Ohio, Tennessee and Mississippi valleys. Expect heavy river flooding and springlike tornadoes.
Meteorologists caution that their predictions are only as good as their computer models. And forecasts are less accurate the further into the future they attempt to predict. "The models tend to overdo the formation of these really exciting weather formations for us," said Mike Wallace, a University of Washington atmospheric scientist.
Yet the more Wallace studied the models, the more he became convinced that something wicked was coming this way.
"It all fits together nicely," he said. "There's going to be weather in the headlines this weekend, that's for sure." …The Seattle Times

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationw...2_storm05.html

Hi - just FYI the Seattle Times article is from 2005. Just about had a panic attack over snow falling here tomorrow

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[Sidney]

This one sentence stood out for me from the york dispatch link.

And with some trees still leafy and the potential for snow, power outages could last to Election Day, some meteorologists fear. They say it has all the earmarks of a billion-dollar storm.

Do I smell a motive???

[sleepy]

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[araucaria]

Posted by sleepy (here)

While I can’t speak for the logic of those reportring on the storms, similar storms have converged before and that is where the name the perfect storm comes from.

The weather man says he doesn't know of a precedent, but you do - this means he is even more incompetent than we perhaps thought. Why listen to anything he has to say?

I maintain that mass fear has a negative incidence on the weather, and vice versa. Let's just see how much we can do to help.

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[Forevernyt]

Alright, here's the latest article on Comcast's site, about the Utilities gearing up for the storm:

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/...edia_phillyitn

Now, a few days ago, Monday I believe, I was traveling down a highway, Rt 1 in Lawrenceville/Princeton area, and I passed a flatbed truck, which appeared to me, to be transporting at least over a dozen electrical transformers of various sizes. I was going to say something that day, but thought, nah, I don't want to cry wolf when there was no wolf. I'm no electrician and I wasn't even sure of what I was looking at. But now, with this oncoming, Stormageddon, it makes more sense that someone, somewhere is stocking up on transformers.

Weird...

[KiwiElf]

AAP October 26, 2012, 11:12 am

(video at link)

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/1...-frankenstorm/

US forecasters are predicting a "frankenstorm", a monster combination of high wind, heavy rain, extreme tides and maybe snow that could cause havoc along the East Coast just before Halloween.

Hurricane Sandy, having blown through Haiti and Cuba on Thursday, continues to barrel north. A wintry storm is chugging across from the west. And frigid air is streaming south from Canada.

And if they meet on Tuesday morning around New York or New Jersey, as forecasters predict, they could create a big wet mess that settles over the nation's most heavily populated corridor, reaching as far inland as Ohio.

With experts expecting at least $US1 billion ($A970.45 million) in damage, the people who will have to clean it up are not waiting.

Utilities are lining up out-of-state work crews and cancelling employees' days off. From county disaster chiefs to the federal government, emergency officials are warning the public to be prepared. And President Barack Obama was briefed aboard Air Force One.

"It's looking like a very serious storm that could be historic," said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the forecasting service Weather Underground. "Mother Nature is not saying trick-or-treat. It's just going to give tricks."

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecaster Jim Cisco, who coined the nickname "Frankenstorm", said: "We don't have many modern precedents for what the models are suggesting."

Government forecasters said there was a 90 per cent chance - up from 60 per cent two days earlier - that the east would get pounded from Sunday to Wednesday. Things are expected to get messier once Sandy, a late hurricane in what has been a remarkably quiet season, comes ashore, probably in New Jersey.

Coastal areas from Florida to Maine will feel some effects, but the storm is expected to vent the worst of its fury on New Jersey and the New York City area, which could see around 12 centimetres of rain and gale-force winds close to 65km/h. Eastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, western Virginia and the Shenandoah Mountains could get snow.

Some have compared the tempest to the so-called perfect storm that struck off the coast of New England in 1991, but that one didn't hit as populated an area. Nor is this one like last year's Halloween storm, which was merely an early snowfall.

"The perfect storm only did $US200 million of damage and I'm thinking a billion," Masters said. "Yeah, it will be worse."

As it made its way across the Caribbean, Sandy was blamed for at least four deaths in Haiti and Jamaica. The 18th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season hit the Bahamas after cutting across Cuba, where it tore roofs off homes and damaged fragile coffee and tomato crops.

[KiwiElf]

EDIT: Frak I've done it again! Mods please merge with "Perfect Storm" thread (sowwy - having senior moment!!!)

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
EDIT: Frak I've done it again! Mods please merge with "Perfect Storm" thread (sowwy - having senior moment!!!)

Merge done

[ghostrider]

the reason the weather forcasters never get it right, the weather is controlled, not naturally occuring. Notice hurricanes for years take basically the same track on a globe that is tilted and spins and has a jet stream with moisture and sun rays heating and expanding land not to mention smog from factories, cars, and such, still the big storms always go right down the alley knocking down the same pins.

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[Kryztian]

I just finished telling someone about how hurricanes rarely come ashore in New Jersey. Now this news! I live one mile from the shore.

I should take comfort in the fact the anything can happen in the next week.

[sleepy]

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[observer]

I only add this link as a point-of-reference for all those members who have deluded themselves into believing their positive thinking is winning the war against abject evil:

http://www.haarpstatus.com/haarpstatus/haarpmap.html

The H.A.A.R.P. project is heating-up the atmosphere directly over the tri-state area where this 'Perfect Storm' is forecast to hit.

Does this appear to be a coincidence to any of the members?

Please Note:

This link takes you to a 'real time' monitor. At the time of this writing, the entire tri-state area of the Northeast Corridor was the darkest color red. This condition may change as time goes-on. If, when you view the monitor, there is a difference, it is because the conditions have changed.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by observer (here)
The H.A.A.R.P. project is heating-up the atmosphere directly over the tri-state area where this 'Perfect Storm' is forecast to hit.

Here's a screen shot for the record. I don't recall seeing Haarpstatus.com with a max color 10 before.