Dr. Steven Greer (2010 - 2012)

[mojo]

Dr Greer provides more insight on his research and shares a little on the upcoming movie Sirius. He introduces Paola Harris whom shares a little on the work she did for The Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS) and working for Dr. Allen Hyneck translating the Italian sighting reports.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j3XwatCk29w

Interesting what he shared about his Mt Shasta expedition. One of the craft that materialzed was fired on by our gov black ops and witnessed by 40 people...he mentioned that we (military)have the ability to detect them...

...he sounded sure it was the para-military and PLF's abducting people.

...the work he is doing in the area of releasing free energy technologies should be commended.
...good interview imho.
...Paola opens up a little more at the end and sounds so real and authentic.

[Star Tsar]

Hey Mojo whats your opinion on Dr Greer's view on ET races?
I mean possible danger posed.
Brilliant interview by the way...

[Abductee S]

It is speculated and probably true that Mt. Shasta has an underground ET base. Who they are is unknown, but most likely if they have been fired upon by the military, they are not who we want in our world. The agreements that were made in the past between our government and some ET races have been broken long ago by the ETs. Factions of the government who know much more than we, are doing what they see as appropriate - rid the planet of invaders.

The abductions of humans are being carried out by ET for the majority of cases. These are to convert some to their side, experiment on others to learn how we work, and in many cases keep the abductee for purposes that we would consider vial and unethical to us.

Dr. Greer, in my opinion, started out with a noble purpose of studying and learning about what was happening regarding the ET presence. Over time, he has been confused and wrongly directed by this ET presence into acting as one of their most vocal advocates. I feel he believes what he is doing is right and still has a good conscience. But the situation is getting more dire and serious and we can't keep thinking that it is good because I think it is not.

[mojo]

I'm not sure if SMC is a college but someone had their camera running and uploaded for viewing. It appears to be a recent event.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cSZZMf30yXE

...some interesting tidbits later in the vid...he mentions Marilyn Monroe's death and strange circumstances around it.
...he shows the ET corpse towards the end of the clip, the one that will be in the movie Sirius.
...in a round about way he mentioned my friend @34 minutes in whom was present at the lecture. Now I realize it was in Santa Monica. My friend showed me the ET corpse on his Ipad that Emery Smith filmed, he came to Oregon for a skywatching after this event in CA .

I thought it would be fun to add on the video of the person I mentioned that Dr Greer mentioned. This was his first visit to Oregon. The second time he visited a few weeks ago was after this event.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EQxPz3k1xlc

I'm surprised about the synchronicity of this whole thread. I didnt know it was the event at first in California...and then to realize it at the end.

[mojo]

As a follow-up, the person mentioned had possesion of the ET corpse and got to take it to the UK where a top forensic examiner of fetuses looked at the remains and you hear the rest in the movie....

[mojo]

Our forum has mixed feeling about Greer as well as myself (i.e. his charging for fieldtrips) but there's good information that nobody else is saying.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oTPcI2zl2gQ

[M0JFK]

Well lets be honnest field trips cant fund themselfs can they? You cant expect Greer to fund them. Sooner or later you have to put your hand in your pocket and fork out the cash for the trip. I like Greer. He didnt have to do what he does today and he as realy taken the movment forward and its a credit to him.

[Tommy]

Just have to add, "first contact courses" for a thousand bucks a day shows to me (among other things, anyone read his biography?) that he is not in this whole-heartedly for the good of humanity.

This does not mean you should discount his stuff completely by any means, but it does certainly mean nothing is black nor white.

[Rocky_Shorz]

he renting timeshare in a space ship for the course?

will he accept one of these hunks of gold they told me to buy before running to the hills...

[apollo41]

Greer is as crooked as they come?who does he really work for? erm let me think? could it be the the Rockefeller,s..
"no..no.. i hear you say" cant be?
check who funds him????????????

[AutumnW]

A very good friend of mine has spent a fortune going to Greer's extensive field trips, both in the US and abroad. She can afford it, no problem...so that's not an issue. She herself admits he's bat **** flaky, though highly intelligent....and she likes him and believes his theories, is constantly quoting him. Out in the desert, according to friend, anything and everything, is considered a "craft". This includes distant porch lights, planes, etc..etc.. Seeing as nobody has had to use their boarding pass or observe 'the protocols' yet, his understanding of the material nature of the et's has morphed. Now they are inter-dimensionsal and can't necessarily be seen but can be clearly 'felt' to be present. His ideas are shape shifting.

Plunk several suggestible individuals and a charismatic narcissist on the edge of some desert in the middle of the night and tell them they are feeling alien presences...and they will feel them. They are also very likely to see vague foggy patches, orbs and whispy sh** that we all see in total darkness. I can't help it. I just don't buy it. I really like the work he did on the Disclosure project, but I can't stomach the dog and pony show he's responsible for. He ends up neutralizing his best previous efforts. What a shame. And...of course it's about the money and the attention. He's a guru- wannabe.

He also has the VERY bad habit of condemning anybody who doesn't agree with his "the beings are all benevolent" idea as a member of the cabal Laughable. You can pretty much tell how wrong somebody is by such a strict fundamentalist approach. He's like Madame BlaFATsky on another forum which shall remain nameless.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi

Would like to add my "two cents" to the issue of paying for the spiritual or extraterestial experience.

I think that it is honest to ask the interested party for covering of some expenses. We live in the material world for the time being. Everything material has it's price tag. Bankers can spell money out of thin air but we can't. We can steel as they do so we would become them.

Back to Greer. If everything would be for free some wealthy figure would have to sponsor him. The wealthy figures can't help themselves but to stick their noses in every investment they make. If Greer would allow himself to be funded extensively he would loose control of Disclosure Project in no time. So he decided that participants will sponsor themselves with some commission added

If you ask why his friendly E.T.s can't materialize some gold, money, food or any other material objects for him i would answer that it would be an outside intervention/interference in earthly affairs and abusing free will of the rest of population. Not sounds good to me...

And i am aware the above is a perfect cover for the scam. I hope it is not...

[wobbegong]

Greer & Co is basically "packaging" groups of humans and handing them over to the Interventionist ET forces so that they can be mentally manipulated. The CE-5 protocol should make it all easier for his ET friends, and much cheaper than abductions...
Interesting he emphasizes the fact that each person should communicate his precise location.

[onawah]

If there is proof of these allegations against Greer, I would like to hear them.
Badmouthing someone with nothing to back up your claims is easy and cheap.
The CE-5 outings are not cheap to organize, and Greer has two daughters in college to finance.
I have never been on any of Greer's organized outings, but I belong to the extended international CE-5 group that Kosta started, and had an amazing sighting the first time I went out to make Contact.
The detailed reports that come in every month from the international group are inspiring, and nobody is getting paid for doing that.

[Chris Gilbert]

I don't have any problem with someone charging for their time and effort, I think that oftentimes people don't realize just how much work some put into their efforts to change the world, and their insistence that it should all be "free" is really an entitlement complex.

A more relevant question would be the accuracy, reliability and actual value of the service someone is providing relative to the price. I was impressed by Greer's work with the Disclosure Project, and greatly enjoyed his "Hidden Truth" book. I'm not so sure though about these current workshops of his, I suspect that the stress of his work lead to a "jumping the shark" moment. It's unfortunate, but he is only human.

[DNA]

Posted by onawah (here)
If there is proof of these allegations against Greer, I would like to hear them.
Badmouthing someone with nothing to back up your claims is easy and cheap.
The CE-5 outings are not cheap to organize, and Greer has two daughters in college to pay for.
I have never been on any of Greers organized outings, but I belong to the extended international CE-5 group that Kosta started, and had an amazing sighting the first time I went out to make Contact.
The detailed reports that come in every month from the international group are inspiring, and nobody is getting paid for doing that.

I listened to the interview and found myself amazed with how much i agreed. I'm looking forward to finding this group and checking out the experiences folks are sharing. I have a thread I discuss technologically interdimensional folks that are spot on to what Greer is describing. I'll cut and paste the thread tonight on my home computer. I'm on my phone now and such is not possible.

[wobbegong]

Perhaps some opinions above have been expressed in a lighthearted fashion, which is inappropriate for something as serious as this, but they still are genuine and potentially valid opinions, so please let’s withhold offensive judgements such as “easy and cheap” and continue the discussion in a constructive manner.
Proof of things in the alternative arena is often a very relative concept – not that we shouldn’t look for it, but let’s, for example, look at the proof that Greer brings. He says that “the mind is an omnipresent field”…omnipresent is a very, very big word, theories could be formulated on this, but defining them as “proof” would be amusing to say the least.
He also mentions that this initiative is for cosmic awareness and universal peace. Impossible to prove, just like most intentions, and pretty far fetched considering the vastness of the universe and the limited knowledge of it that we have. Isn’t it naïve to think that there is so much goodness waiting for us out there?
He says that “we need to be in touch with ALL ET civilizations”, IMO it is more than legitimate to disagree with this! Actually it’s not just me, a browse through some Avalon threads shows members’ contributions that bring ample evidence of malevolent interactions carried out by ET presence.
In light of that assumption it is absolutely reasonable to think that in spite of any good intention, this initiative is dangerous. He is assuming that giving these candidate contactees some training and a “protocol” will prepare them to have a safe interaction with any, yes, any ET entity. That is dangerous and apart from the impossibility to choose the benevolents over the malevolents for these encounters, on this planet there is absolutely no comprehensive enough study of the ET mind that would safeguard anybody from the potential danger of hostile ET manipulation. The fact that these encounters will supposedly take place in a mental environment does not mean that everything will be benevolent.
Another exposure is the fact that humanity is still too divided (for this we do have proof) therefore not ready to safely open its doors to foreign visitors.

[onawah]

That's not really the case; the meditations and protocols that the CE-5 people use are very grounded and positively oriented and would not attract negative entities.
Working in groups with experienced people in leadership is part of the protocol.

[DNA]

Posted by onawah (here)
That's not really the case; the meditations and protocols that the CE-5 people use are very grounded and positively oriented and would not attract negative entities.
Working in groups with experienced people in leadership is part of the protocol.

I don't know what the protocols are, and I"ve never taken part in anything Steven Greer, but from what I've gleaned from this specific interview, I've had some experiences that are very much in line with what he is talking about.

Even down to the idea of a multidimensional aspect being projected through a technological method, I've personaly called it halographic projection because that is what it seems like to me. I find it pretty correlative as well that these interactions require an activation of your third eye.
From what I'm hearing from Greer, they are invisible but you can intuite they are there, but from my vantage they are in fact visible if you activate your third eye through meditation.
As for myself, my third eye isn't activated all the time, it takes a meditation, ussually three or four minutes.

Here is the thread I've posted outlining some of the events, Holographically Projected Human/Alien Healers
Here is another thread where I mention my interactions with them as well. My Interactions With A Shadow Being.

[MBerger47]

Posted by onawah (here)
That's not really the case; the meditations and protocols that the CE-5 people use are very grounded and positively oriented and would not attract negative entities.
Working in groups with experienced people in leadership is part of the protocol.

You are so terribly naive and I hope that you never experience negative ETs that have terrorized thousands (maybe millions) on this planet alone. You are the proverbial baby in the expression "stealing candy from a baby". In this case, however, you have much, much more to lose than just candy. You are jeopardizing your life, your eternal soul and the freedom of humanity on this planet as you engage in such a reckless practice of inviting ETs into your mind, your heart, your home, your planet.