Alien Invasion planned for Oct 2010?

[Ontarioguy]

After listenning to Druanna in the vid above, I notice she makes reference to "Blossom Goodchild" and feels that with the prediction made by this Stanley Fulhim?, that perhaps Blossom only got the year wrong in her prediction for Oct. 2008. Out of curiousity I went to Blossom's site and low and behold her last channeling was on Sept 29th. Anddddd in it the GFOL state that it will be best to use the element of SURPRISE....and for the people of earth to be on RED ALERT!! at this time.....and contact will NOT happen in the way we think of it...but rather they (GFOL) intend to go with baby steps and only give a presence that cannot be denied whatsoever. And that our hearts will hear them coming before we see them coming. Hmmm??...interesting. It seems this prediction this time is being made by more than just one person .......so who knows.....eyes to the skies I guess!

[sjkted]

Posted by lightblue (here)


i don't think so... l



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Agreed. Having weapons is the only means of sovereignty. If we all drop our weapons and come together, it will be the most peaceful people who decide to do it first followed by the most violent who choose not to.

--sjkted

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Posted by viking (here)
Ok I see where you are coming from Jaybee ...

If we are all here to learn lessons, what will happen to the ones who haven't learnt their lessons??

viking

And what about those who choose not to learn their lessons in order to gain power? And, what if we're not here to "learn lessons"?

--sjkted

[bluestflame]

breaking the cycle of incarnations and "karma" which is an elabourite system of control that predates christianity

[jcocks]

Posted by bluestflame (here)
breaking the cycle of incarnations and "karma" which is an elabourite system of control that predates christianity

I'm not even sure anymore that "karma" actually exists in the way it's portrayed - ie "If you get it wrong you reincarnate again and again until you get it right"..... The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that puts a negative spin on things.

It's probably more a case of reincarnating on earth if your soul knows you need to finish things off or you make an agreement to help another being with their lessons.... ANd then, you only stay here as long as you need to, which is the reason why many people seem to die "way too young"...That's not the case at all - they're lessons are over and they just don't need nor want to stay here. In fact, their best interests are not served by them staying. It's not a condition imposed on your soul by another outside force more than it's a free-will choice made by your soul.

[Victoria Tintagel]

Thanks very much, Celine, for this "Truth is very young right now.. we need to be very careful with it". For me, this is truth....a very young Tintle one, indeed
I don't put much of my attention towards aliens and visits, by THEM out there. It's not important to me, because our sovereign nature can never be harmed or controlled. We are the guardians of our sovereign nature, not aliens ruling us under mind control or whatever game THEY choose to play. I am fond of Whitley Strieber's approach of ET's and he offers great insights in his books and You Tubbies, where he reads them. Google is your friend.

In the story "Ami, child of the Stars" I was happily surprised by the way Ami decides to make Contact with Earthlings. There's this Earthling boy, sitting with Ami in a spaceship, hearing Ami say "Oh, there's somebody I have to show my spaceship to" (the ship can be cloaked) The boy asks "What do you mean by that?" and Ami replies "Well, this man might, in a mission in his life, benefit from this experience: seeing my spacehip" To me, this part of the story shows how every individual here on Earth is unique. I think we are playing a game, but not in a way we just give away our responsibility. If Close Encounters is meaningful to us, it will happen I think. But most of ALL I believe we need Close Encounters with who we really are.
I don't need to add more words....... just a smile Tint.

[Victoria Tintagel]

Dear Avalonians, here's an article showing the conditions that fire all kinds of speculations and rumours, like the supposed planning of an Alien Invasion
in october 2010. This article reflects on the change in strict rules and laws that accompanied the GAME we play. I posted the 15.30 post double and decided to solve that in this way, by posting Julia Grffin's message, cheers and smile to yourself, Tint.

> MA'AT MAGAZINES > October, 2010 > Dancing With The New Energies

Table of Contents Ma'at Magazines Ma'at Shop News Archives Dancing With The New Energies
By Julia Griffin

The astrological weather has been challenging with oppositions, squares and unusual aspects. Think of it as an opportunity to use the skills that you have gained through the summer and past year, like graduating from skiing on two skis and now learning to slalom. The Universe impersonally reflects our energy to us, although our experience of it is subjective. The angles and movements of stars and planets can only show glimpses or slices of our consciousness from which we have previously hidden or refused to see. These unusual aspects are about seeing ourselves as in mirrors that reflect front and back and left and right simultaneously.

The stars hint that it is time to leave behind the undesirable parts of "our reality" to create a new life or reality that is a more fulfilling expression of our higher nature. It is the nature of the Universe to allow opportunity for expression of mastery. What is mastery? It is the understanding that our conflicts allow for insight, greater compassion and inner love for self while moving into the auspices of greater co-creation.

Grasping our ability for co-creation is only possible by witnessing the dance between the shadow and soul. The soul longs for greater opportunity and dreams of frontiers for experience. The un-integrated ego finds the sofa and television appealing with a sigh of "Oh, I'll do that later." The dreams of the soul are elusive until we learn how to put the two voices together. The soul speaks through intuition, a repetitive voice that sings in the heart, while the ego speaks of past pain, hurt and protection with patterns of victim, perpetrator and hero.

While the dreams of the past ages are being surrendered, new dreams of love, compassion and enlightenment are being born, but alchemical birth only comes through the marriage of opposites. Opposites are light and darkness, soft and hard, yin and yang. The opposite sides of our nature are the shadow and soul. Every desire is born of both, the hidden vulnerability of gifts that lie beneath the shadow and the brave courageous inspiration of the forward-moving soul.

The Alchemical Process

A dream or desire is born from the heart and is illuminated by the fire of the soul. It forms an intention, a blazing star that our heart follows with sharp visual images and is shaped by emotion. The body follows, for it must follow it with action for it to take form in matter. In the moment that the image is formed, the aspirant discovers an odd conundrum — now the mind argues with the form with the strange talk to self that is called the monkey mind or inner dialog. Strange situations and upsets follow that cause disturbing emotions and often shut-down with a desire to do nothing but experience this state.

Through meditation, it is possible to discover that our reactions and upsets are caused by deep childhood or past life beliefs. Ultimately, life responds to our inner being. What we refuse to see, the Universe must mirror. Many of us are passing through this fire of inner discovery. As Frankl said, "That which is to give light must endure burning." As we move into enlightenment as a group, we surrender and sacrifice the old patterns that cause discomfort and pain — the odd part is that our patterns form the experience of opposition and squares as reflected by the heavens.

In an opposition, two planets or forces face one another at 180 degree angles, and the two forces are not in agreement. For the sake of expression, they could be said to be in disagreement. In squares with 90 degree angles, there is an element of force. Two energies must come together in an expression of matter. We could say that the soul's desire for expression in the material and the ego with its karmic patterns of self-protection and neediness are in opposition. By learning to combine two opposing forces, we step into the operation of the marriage of opposites — the only known formula of creating consciously in matter. As the two opposites (imagine 2 circles overlying one another as in the Flower of Life) merge, a third thing or child is formed. Right angles of a square are formed as the offspring of the two opposing forces takes shape in matter.

The "Hastened Path" is the name given by Robert Wilkinson (Aquarius Papers) to the path of the enlightenment or light seekers. The Hastened Path means that the commitment to awakening begins a journey of experiencing karma, gifts and wisdom more quickly. It is said that astrological aspects that we find so challenging are but the heavens beckoning this group into the awakening of mastery. The planets and stars are amplifying the alchemical process that must take place within those who are awakening so that the co-creation of reality is better understood throughout this process of attaining higher frequency.

Patterns

Patterns begin usually in childhood, adolescence or early adulthood. They are based on a belief that involves acceptance, approval and love from others. We measure our value by the gift of these qualities as children as they are necessities for survival. Imagine a child who only knows how to give love and encounters a parent who is angry or upset. The parent may tell the child that they are too social or solitary or that reading or playing with friends is inappropriate. The parent may say that the child is too loud or quiet, too different or a conformist. At this point, damage is incurred. The child begins to change his or her behavior for approval, acceptance and love — it seems responsible to reflect that these episodes likely occur because of accumulated karma brought into this existence.

Regardless, a pattern is formed. Whenever the child experiences the same situation, a false behavior is exhibited so that the pain from the initial situation is not again caused. This behavior is known as the protective part of the ego — the false behavior hides the true self. The odd part of the pattern is that the protection eventually causes pain because it hides the gift of true expression, and it causes our being to move out of balance.

This protection from the ego is the device that causes so much trauma in life itself. It is the software in the computer of the self that brings about harsh words, unkindness and repetitive situations in life. The truth is that if a situation is repetitive then it is "us" who is causing it, not an outer force or difficult universe. In fact, the universe is presently delivering perfect aspects to see our internal mirrors and the beliefs that lie behind them.

When I work with students, I've found that our darkest feelings and thoughts travel back almost as long as we can remember. For example, the topic may be love, money or health but our feelings and thoughts tend to stay the same whenever faced with difficult situations. One person may feel overwhelming anxiety about career or money; another person feels tragically abandoned or abused in relationships. Through intuitive probing and gentle conversation, I usually find that the same circumstances have followed the person throughout his or her life. Their dream is often the exact or polar opposite of the situation.

The experience of patterns occurs because of our resonance with illusion or lower vibration. Also, we accumulate karma or a particular vibratory rate through the energy of the repetitive experience. We can begin with the admission that it is our pattern — not someone else — that causes the frequency. By accepting the frequency, pattern and situation, we immediately begin to observe it. And everything changes when an observer is added to an equation. When we move into acceptance of a pattern, then compassion is gained for the characters in our play of life that are mirroring our deepest pain. It is helpful to entertain the idea that our experience eventually frees us from our pain body.

Listed below are a few of the steps that I use in counseling. They can be applied by anyone who is willing to practice. The application of the alchemical elements is also useful.

Exercise:

Begin with the feeling and stay with the negative feeling or state for a few minutes. Initially it will deepen, but in a few minutes or hours it will lessen. Notice that you have always felt this way (or at least for years) and remind yourself that observation changes it. Only the "inner you" or "real you" can observe. When the feeling lessens, visualize the opposite state; meditate; or exercise. Any of these three acts builds the frequency for the desired change, and the three acts differ from the usual response, thus changing the pattern. When your energy changes, notice that everyone involved is simply acting as a mirror. Try to feel compassion for their involvement and extend forgiveness. Now ask, "What would I do if I was free of reaction?" Simply imagining it or asking the question changes the pattern.

1) Meditation — Devotion to spiritual life is always helpful when moving through difficulty. We find new insights and learn to apply them. The connection with spirituality is comforting and provides love and nurturing. (Akasha — connection to the Field)

2) Spirituality — Inspiration is the expression of spirituality in physical form. Ask what the Universe wants from you and act on it. Notice the actions that cause fear and visualize that you begin them. (Fire — inspiration)

3) Images — Create new images of life that move in the opposite direction. Whatever you are not receiving, imagine it in abundance. Whatever you needed as a child, imagine that life now imparts it. Observe any negative images or projections. Remember how often you have been successful with similar situations even when they seemed overwhelming. (Air — mental image)

4) Feelings — Notice that feelings change sometimes hourly. Stay with negative feelings until they lessen. When the change comes, breathe through heart and feel love flow through the heart chakra. Express gratitude for all that is good. (Water — emotions)

5) Body — Notice that tension or contraction occurs in the body when working with a pattern. The same energy is in the body as well as outside of it. Breathe through tight points, practice yoga or walk. Whenever possible, eat well and drink plenty of water. Remember too that your home, body and life are expressions of your being in the physical realm. Love every molecule whenever possible. (Earth — physical surroundings, sensations and body)

The Light of the Stars

The real reason for hesitancy is that movement forward in the light brings change and chaos. Sometimes, we lose the sense of our identity. People react differently to us, and their reactions may cause feelings of instability or negative emotions. But like two people in a dance, if one steps away, then the other will step forward or find another dancer. The people in our lives will either step up to match our frequency or fall away, as will the events in our lives.

The illumination of the light is known to bring change, initially chaos. But we survive it and create again. The garden is plowed before it is brought to life; the house is most disorderly as it is cleaned. We also learn balance by bringing the forces of the self together. We learn to rephrase words, to alter reactions or to exercise and meditate first instead of last. We understand that everyone acts in a certain way because of our underlying beliefs — not the people themselves. As we understand our involvement, we eventually surrender and let go. We end our movement between the low and high point of a desire by staying fixed on its course like the North Star. We do this not because of the end result, but because Spirit leads us.

Our desire becomes more profound as we move into the path prepared by Spirit or the creative forces of the Universe. Now our desire is more than "us"; it is path of sharing our light with many in whatever way that the Universe offers. No longer do we suffer through the creations of our patterns — we shed them to follow the light. Our lives begin to follow a new pattern, one that is based on the new person that we are becoming. We find new ways of action, new forms of expression, and as we do this, the light comes to meet us.

The presence of the light comes with its illuminating power — its love and majesty for every fiber of our being. Now we feel only that — and not the darkness through which we traveled. We express our gifts and talents. This is part of the path of the journey of the soul, and it is one of the paths of awakening.

There are many paths on the journey, as well a many different roads for travel. It may be that soon a transcendental leap will be made as we choose to learn from simple expansion and growth, as opposed to patterns. In the meanwhile, each time that one of us surrenders a pattern and transmutes the energy to create a higher vibration, all of us experiences a greater opportunity for change and to see the light within ourselves. At this moment, humanity is moving away from patterns of hiding the self into self-love, awareness and discovery. By bringing together the opposing parts of our nature, we move away from judgment and loss toward compassion, love and expansion. This is the gift of the illumination of the stars and planets.

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[Victoria Tintagel]

Quoting jcocks message: "I'm not even sure anymore that "karma" actually exists in the way it's portrayed - ie "If you get it wrong you reincarnate again and again until you get it right"..... The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that puts a negative spin on things".


I wholeheartedly agree with your words, jcocks, there is or should not be an outside force pushing you through the pipeline to lead a life on Earth, paying off guilty conscience that is put in you. And most interesting is.......in my nsho, the proceedings of our "cleaning of the slate".... are accelerating, simply because we cannot "enter the kingdom of Heaven unless you become one with the Father and me" Meaning we need to heal ourselves and start loving all aspects of ourselves.

Today I posted a message from Aluna Joy Yaxk'in "Cleaning the Slate" go see if you will, it's about a great shift in energies taking place NOW
We are powerful beyond measure, as human beings, and we better start acting that way.........Phoenix speaking...... in a fierce way .......
Just an invitation, don't be frightened Tint.

"It's probably more a case of reincarnating on earth if your soul knows you need to finish things off or you make an agreement to help another being with their lessons.... ANd then, you only stay here as long as you need to, which is the reason why many people seem to die "way too young"...That's not the case at all - they're lessons are over and they just don't need nor want to stay here. In fact, their best interests are not served by them staying. It's not a condition imposed on your soul by another outside force more than it's a free-will choice made by your soul".

[Fredkc]

Posted by jcocks (here)
I'm not even sure anymore that "karma" actually exists in the way it's portrayed - ie "If you get it wrong you reincarnate again and again until you get it right"..... The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that puts a negative spin on things.

It's probably more a case of reincarnating on earth if your soul knows you need to finish things off or you make an agreement to help another being with their lessons.... ANd then, you only stay here as long as you need to, which is the reason why many people seem to die "way too young"...That's not the case at all - they're lessons are over and they just don't need nor want to stay here. In fact, their best interests are not served by them staying. It's not a condition imposed on your soul by another outside force more than it's a free-will choice made by your soul.

99.5% agree here.
What brought this notion into focus, for me, was looking at it "beyond time".

Consider for a moment the idea that time is not a linear thing; that in essence you are all of your incarnations at once. Now it's possible to think, not in terms of incarnating "again", but "additionally".

This also resolves the puzzle about:

the reason why many people seem to die "way too young"...That's not the case at all - they're lessons are over and they just don't need nor want to stay here.

because the central soul/critter/what_have_you is even capable of resolving issues of one life, within another (again, think of this occurring all at once). That even, as issues are resolved, the ability to resolve them becomes even stronger making some incarnations superfluous.

Food fer thought, anyway
Fred

[lightblue]

tint

If Close Encounters is meaningful to us, it will happen I think. But most of ALL I believe we need Close Encounters with who we really are.
I don't need to add more words....... just a smile Tint.

who do you think we really are? thanks l





p.s. though interesting enough, the last few posts have gone well off topic..this thread is not about karmic cycles...



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[bashi]

Is it only the fear of the unknown?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5hc37Zf1oyU

[Etherios]

doesnt this go along the path that the X-Files had? That our governments are "Forced" to coop with aliens inorder to find a solution ??? Maybe its true maybe not... but i think that if they wanted to take over the planet - the human societies then what will they gain by making hybrids? Either subdue us and produce the hybrids after or kill all and leave a few selected ones....

Maybe its just wishful thinking from my part.

[bashi]

Interestingly, Rense has a new intro picture. Such a coincidence...

[lightblue]

etherios:

Default Re: Alien Invasion planned for Oct 2010?

doesnt this go along the path that the X-Files had? That our governments are "Forced" to coop with aliens inorder to find a solution ??? Maybe its true maybe not... but i think that if they wanted to take over the planet - the human societies then what will they gain by making hybrids? Either subdue us and produce the hybrids after or kill all and leave a few selected ones....

Maybe its just wishful thinking from my part.

etherios,what did you mean by the solution?

but i think that if they wanted to take over the planet - the human societies then what will they gain by making hybrids? Either subdue us and produce the hybrids after or kill all and leave a few selected ones

maybe, just maybe, there's just too many of us to tackle..or that there's something we have and they don't..like the depth of emotions, creativity (oher than technological),innate inpredictability of human nature ..which they, tptb, are so keen on subduing... l


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[Etherios]

in the x-files if you followed the UFO stories... the secret gov were coop with ETs in order to find a way "solution" to either make the ETs go away or save as many humans as possible. In the X-Files the humans we just like cattle to the greys...

[lightblue]

etherios:

n the x-files if you followed the UFO stories... the secret gov were coop with ETs in order to find a way "solution" to either make the ETs go away or save as many humans as possible. In the X-Files the humans we just like cattle to the greys...

thanks,tho i have only ever watched 3-4 episodes of the x-files at the time and i don't remember that story line...hope you meant the tv series and not the feature film if there is one...think there is..

the interpretation doesn't sound too far fetched...l


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[hyundisonata]

More than likely I will get shot down in flames this time. I just cannot comprehend why people listen to the same people all the time who are always wrong. The date set comes and goes. Nothing happens so they move the goal posts. It’s a bit like the church. When I was a child we were led to believe god lived in the clouds. But as science advance the church moved the goal posts to suit. This is what I see happening here .ok I am not into the spiritual stuff, yes such exists but as far as I am concerned from my own experience, it has nothing to do with ET. I have an entity in my own home been with us since 1972 and my kids grew up with it in their lives. Now that to me is a spirit and never once has it been connected to ET. Just now I am involved with what I call shadow people; it’s another species that shares this planet with us. If you ever get the chance to meet one you won’t ever forget it. We had several around us one night and they just seem like shadows that can move very fast. Anyway I told them I only had love and compassion in my heart and meant no harm. At that point one that was about four feet from us turned around slowly and her face came into view. It was the most beautiful elf like face you could ever image and her eyes were spectacular. But most of all was her smile; it just melted your heart. Then she was gone. Nothing said but to me that smile said it all. My point is even they are not spirits or ET. Aliens to me are solid just like us, I have met five different types and believe me if I punched one on the nose he would feel it. Ok they can play games with your mind so it would be difficult to punch one but you get the drift. The ET I know wouldn’t waste his time sending a telepathic message to one person. He has the ability to use your TV, yip he could transmit to every TV on the planet if he wished to do so. Everything I have had to do with ET has been solid and no doubt this is why I find it hard to swallow all the channelling stuff. But I could be wrong only time will tell the truth. My younger brother who I might add is a contactee believes such and claims ET takes him places and shows things to him such as earthquakes or military secrets ect. So you never know until it happens.

[Victoria Tintagel]

Quote from you,......lightblue.... "who do you think we really are? thanks"
Hey lightblue, we haven't "met" yet, how are you? And who are you, tell me? Show yourself!
Who do I think we really are?

I think in the question lies the answer.....lightblue.

Do I take your question as somewhat provocative? Or are you sirius?

The question itself implies a state of mind that chooses dependency above freedom, you see?
It's a deep seated human condition to deny sovereignty as from day one on this planet, we're manipulated and screwed up.....even technically..... as souls living in a physical body.
Learning to survive and being forced even, to survive.
Now the time has come to begin to know ourselves, in love, unconditionally, as we cannot bring our "stuff" to the other side. We've got to "clean the slate" and nobody knows you as well as yourself....if you dare to be honest....got it? Hmmmmmmm? Schoolteacher Tint.
"Know thyself" is a favorite line of a Greek philosopher, forgot his name. Aristoteles?

[Victoria Tintagel]

Quote from Fred: "What brought this notion into focus, for me, was looking at it "beyond time".

Consider for a moment the idea that time is not a linear thing; that in essence you are all of your incarnations at once. Now it's possible to think, not in terms of incarnating "again", but "additionally".

This also resolves the puzzle about:
the reason why many people seem to die "way too young"...That's not the case at all - they're lessons are over and they just don't need nor want to stay here.
because the central soul/critter/what_have_you is even capable of resolving issues of one life, within another (again, think of this occurring all at once). That even, as issues are resolved, the ability to resolve them becomes even stronger making some incarnations superfluous.

Food fer thought, anyway
Fred"

Thank you Fred, great post! Tint.

[bashi]

Posted by tintagelcave (here)
Quote from Fred: "

This also resolves the puzzle about:
the reason why many people seem to die "way too young"...That's not the case at all - they're lessons are over and they just don't need nor want to stay here.
because the central soul/critter/what_have_you is even capable of resolving issues of one life, within another (again, think of this occurring all at once). That even, as issues are resolved, the ability to resolve them becomes even stronger making some incarnations superfluous.

it seems we have some great experts in reincarnation here. may i ask how many lifes you remember in detail?

[lightblue]

hi tint

this is your post which got me so curious

Thanks very much, Celine, for this "Truth is very young right now.. we need to be very careful with it". For me, this is truth....a very young Tintle one, indeed
I don't put much of my attention towards aliens and visits, by THEM out there. It's not important to me, because our sovereign nature can never be harmed or controlled. We are the guardians of our sovereign nature, not aliens ruling us under mind control or whatever game THEY choose to play. I am fond of Whitley Strieber's approach of ET's and he offers great insights in his books and You Tubbies, where he reads them. Google is your friend.

In the story "Ami, child of the Stars" I was happily surprised by the way Ami decides to make Contact with Earthlings. There's this Earthling boy, sitting with Ami in a spaceship, hearing Ami say "Oh, there's somebody I have to show my spaceship to" (the ship can be cloaked) The boy asks "What do you mean by that?" and Ami replies "Well, this man might, in a mission in his life, benefit from this experience: seeing my spacehip" To me, this part of the story shows how every individual here on Earth is unique. I think we are playing a game, but not in a way we just give away our responsibility. If Close Encounters is meaningful to us, it will happen I think. But most of ALL I believe we need Close Encounters with who we really are.
I don't need to add more words....... just a smile Tint.

sounds you are still speaking in riddles when you put:

Quote from you,......lightblue.... "who do you think we really are? thanks"
Hey lightblue, we haven't "met" yet, how are you? And who are you, tell me? Show yourself!
Who do I think we really are?

I think in the question lies the answer.....lightblue.

Do I take your question as somewhat provocative? Or are you sirius?

The question itself implies a state of mind that chooses dependency above freedom, you see?
It's a deep seated human condition to deny sovereignty as from day one on this planet, we're manipulated and screwed up.....even technically..... as souls living in a physical body.
Learning to survive and being forced even, to survive.
Now the time has come to begin to know ourselves, in love, unconditionally, as we cannot bring our "stuff" to the other side. We've got to "clean the slate" and nobody knows you as well as yourself....if you dare to be honest....got it? Hmmmmmmm? Schoolteacher Tint.
"Know thyself" is a favorite line of a Greek philosopher, forgot his name. Aristoteles?

i did not want to provoke anything but your answer to my sincerest question..and it is a tough one i know, but just because it sounded you have an idea i did ask it....now, you are responding by throwing the same question back at me....i am who i am - is the best i can do ...we are on philosophical and poetic grounds here and that's fine, only you did speak of the encounters which i didn't understand mataphorically solely. ...but now i see you may have meant it that way...

i certainly was serious... l



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