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    My awakening started in 2008 and I feel as though I'm a "quick study" on information. So I pick up information and put it in my head and try to sort it all out as I'm sure all of us do. I've seen so many great interviews from people along the line. There is no manual for us to go by in this awakening we all here are undertaking so as the saying goes "jump in and get your feet wet". Well that water is starting to get pretty high up on me that's for sure. For whatever reason the last week or so I've been drawn to the Saturn/Moon information from interviews with Jay Weidner and David Icke and his great Wembley arena show last week. Now I've read about John Lear's soul catcher theory but today I listened to Art Bell's 3-21-04 show with John Lear and it has blown me away for the dots are truly starting to connect in this "one big line to dot" puzzle called the awakening.

    For those who are just starting to get your feet well I recommend listening to this interview with John Lear from coast to coast with Art Bell from March of 2004. I like John Lear and my gut and HEART tells me he is sencere with his intent on the information he gives us. Like him or not Lear's information has been and still is an impact on the alternative media community. The moon information starts around the 18 minute mark or so......

    archive.org/details/ArtBell-CoastToCoastAm-03.21.04-JohnLear-Revelations

    The secret government hijacking the experiment?......seems so


    EDIT: Now we can all change our minds IF we find something that disproves what we believe. At the 123:00 - 124:00 mark on the above interview Lear states that we went to the moon and landed there and seen things etc;.....now on the video below at the 29:00 he states we NEVER went to the moon it was all a hoax and I'm taking that he changed his mind AFTER viewing Jay Weidner's film about how Stanley Kubrick made the fake moon landing video yet as always YOU decide....
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    yesterday i stumbled on this interview, for me its one of the best john lear interviews out there ->

    " Loka samasta sukhino bhavantu / May all beings in all worlds be happy and free and may the thoughts, words and actions of my own life contribute in some way to that happiness and to that freedom for all "


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    Quote Posted by seehas (here)
    yesterday i stumbled on this interview, for me its one of the best john lear interviews out there ->

    Excellent video ! check up on the moon at 3,7,13 yes....yes indeed. The truth of all truths begins at the 24:40 to 26:00 mark. John Lear I used to wonder but I wonder no more........another piece of the big line to dot puzzle. Now if what Lear is saying about us not going to the moon is true ,after studying Jay Wiedner's work on Stanley Kubricks moon hoax I tend to agree with Lear, then a serious big time amount of disinformation is being put out by ALL governments who claim to be putting people into space. The Van Allen radiation belt would stop anything on earth in 3-D from going into space. Now I have no idea how beings in other dimensions deal with the belt then again it could be just for 3-D earth to ensure we do not escape the prison or "playing hooky" from our school.... or one of the reasons was who ever seeded the planet chose earth was they knew the belt was in place and it would stop things in 3-D form because of the radiation......
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    I like John Lear and when i found Project Camelot his was one of the first interviews I watched.At the time I was not sure what to make of him.
    Sure he was charismatic,witty, knowledgeable and very well qualified in aviation and alternate knowledge.....But some of his views were way out
    there. Like has been said, the more we are learning from other researchers , the more Johns view of 'wonderland is becoming reality' !!

    Anybody seen that darn white rabbit !!



    A thread I put up a couple weeks ago...

    John Lear - 9/11, Moon Conspiracy, Secret Space Program and Extras -Bases 14=Sept2012
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...es-14-Sept2012

    John Lear.." A Day With A Extraterrestial" BY Lou Baldwin...
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...BY-Lou-Baldwin...

    Seehas video has not come up, over here ??
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    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    Click-on the 'forwarding icon' to see the text of truth4me's comment #1.
    It was only synchronous that I ran across this same interview from a different source, truth4me.

    Listen with care around the 30 minute mark to what John Lear is saying.

    I draw the member's attention to a comment made in a different thread on this same subject:

    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    Thank you Houman for posting this extremely relevant James Bartley interview.

    From the earliest records of antiquity, to the present time, reptiles have been externally controlling this planet. The entire Archon Phenomenon can be summarized in one word: "Reptilian ".

    There are members who have been telepathically influenced into believing there is no control mechanism.... that each human being is a sovereign soul.... that only within the construct of an individual's mind are these external controlling factors possible.... that we are a 'self-imprisoning' species.

    Well the evidence - from antiquity to the present - doesn't support that fantasy. The evidence supports an external controlling mechanism, and this James Bartley interview goes further to support that evidence.

    Research Material:

    Art Bell/John Lear interview - "Revelations"
    http://archive.org/details/ArtBell-C...ar-Revelations
    (Listen carefully at around the thirty minute mark)

    John Lear Disclosure -
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=XTRFhrAr8us
    Note:
    • The gray aliens, John points-out, are biological robotoids.
    • The aliens "we" never met are Reptilian.

    David Icke - a very good source for foundational understanding of the Reptilian presence - "The Biggest Secret" -
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...t.htm#contents

    Only through an understanding of how the control mechanism is imposed, can the Mass of Humanity free itself from this Archonic Obscenity.

    No single individual can tell you the nature of reality. It is only possible to gain understanding into this subject of the Archons by doing the research for yourself.

    They are very clever at what they do....
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    Very good observer! This is what I mean by jumping in the water. I had heard the Greys were robotoid workers of the Reptilians and by back tracking of the puzzle it seems to make sense. You find a piece that doesn't fit you you set it aside and later on you find a piece then you remember the piece you set aside awhile back and put it with the piece you found and it fits. When first hearing tells and stories it blows you away. Kinda what's happening with John Kettler's information on the UFO wars and his Blob monster story in which I'm still fence riding. We need to remember what was said about truth.

    1-laughed at just can't be.......
    2-angrily denied and can't accept it....
    3-accepting truth for what it is and that being TRUTH itself......
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    I like John , he looks at our moon, knowing it should not be there. It was brought here by our ancestors, it's much older than anything in our solar system. Plejaren spacecraft. we fly a craft , they fly one of their planets. Some still believe it's just us out here, look in the sky at night, there is a floating city right next door to us. just so happens it controls our oceans which just so happens to cover two thirds of our world. hmmmm. ha it was the taxi cab that brought our extended family.
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    For me, the most important point was the reminder to love your family every minute of every day. That was not just a cliche. The reason we must learn to do so is because then we see it is the capacity to love that is the engine, the impetus, to change. Our capacity to love is limitless. Yet how many of us extend our love to include every one around us? How many of us are willing to stand up in the name of that love?

    Just before John made that comment the first time, he said that the starving in Africa are not your concern but the well-being of your family is - to roughly paraphrase. There is much wisdom in that.

    The Earth as a prison planet concept is compelling. My immediate thought was what horrendous deed did I do that landed me here? Nothing came to mind...

    The moon and its history is an enigma, to be sure. But no more so than the solar system itself or, for that matter, the earth. I think there are monolithic structures on all accessible moons, planets and even suns - and that includes our moon and earth herself.

    The Van Allen Belts are an interesting idea, too. I don't see any reason to suppose an intelligent race from another world with the technology to get here from there and remain undetected for perhaps eons could not impose such a barrier around a given target planet.

    Still, I believe in the power of love as wielded by the pure of heart. They cannot be thwarted. There is no technology that can best it, ever.
    And I believe that one day man will tire of this game and change this reality, using focussed intent and maximal love, to better suit his needs and his expanded notions of justice.
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    john lear is great i love to listen to him and his camelot interview back in the days was also one of my first and i jumped deeper into the rabbit hole

    ... the most amazing topic for me is the moon soul catcher part and the greys beeing the watcher for the human bodys, i think i read it in a john e. mack book that the greys called humans "containers", so it makes sense, watching the body "container" .

    so lets speculate some:

    the soul catcher got installed on the moon by the creators of life on this planet like on billion of other planets but the lifeforms are different, the so called reptilians based in another dimension got attracted by life on this planet because this lifeform had an enormous output of emotions which they feed on so they hijacked the whole project and implemented the greys to watch over our bodys to build more efficient batterys ... since that time they try all they can to keep humanity stuck and stop spiritual growth on planet earth, they cant exist here without us.

    when the creators saw their project was hijacked they first got angry about it but they came to the conclusion that the middleschool-certificate is now upgraded to one of the hardest to get in the 3rth dimension and the numbers of souls that wanted to incarnate on this planet increased.

    so dont trust your teachers books, because he maybe doesnt want you to leave the school forever
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    The Moon stuff worries me from J.Lear, and the Apollo debunking, I knew a guy who worked for NASA at the Australian tracking station during
    Apollo Moon landing-unless they had some very elaborate ruse going on, he confirms they tracked them all the way to the Moon, and back; hard to fake radio telescope
    tracking. That's all I'm saying.

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    Quote Posted by GalaxyHorse (here)
    The Moon stuff worries me from J.Lear, and the Apollo debunking, I knew a guy who worked for NASA at the Australian tracking station during
    Apollo Moon landing-unless they had some very elaborate ruse going on, he confirms they tracked them all the way to the Moon, and back; hard to fake radio telescope
    tracking. That's all I'm saying.
    I've been listening to John Lear interviews all the way back to the early 90s with Art Bell on Coast to Coast. I can't recall a single John Lear interview where he "debunked the Apollo" mission, GalaxyHorse. Perhaps you have John Lear confused with some other individual. Can you give us a link to that which you are speaking.

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    Well, Observer, in this very Video of the interview in truth4me 's post (on this page) John goes into quite an emphatic denial that the Astronauts actually went to the Moon,
    Neil Armstrong and his merry men were duped, he says, because they are men of integrity and would not knowingly lie-he describes that the Moon has not been visited due to the 'Van Allen Belt'
    have a listen to the interview, it is as plain as day-as I said, this is a little dubious.

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    Quote Posted by GalaxyHorse (here)
    Well, Observer, in this very Video of the interview in truth4me 's post (on this page) John goes into quite an emphatic denial that the Astronauts actually went to the Moon,
    Neil Armstrong and his merry men were duped, he says, because they are men of integrity and would not knowingly lie-he describes that the Moon has not been visited due to the 'Van Allen Belt'
    have a listen to the interview, it is as plain as day-as I said, this is a little dubious.
    The van allen belt thing makes me wonder. If that is true then that seems to throw the secert space program out the window BUT if rogue ET's are part of the SPP they might know a way around it.....

    Now I went to Lears website <thelivingmoon.com> and got his e-mail address and have e-mailed him and ask why the change of heart on the moon landings. Now if he answers is another story...
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    Quote Posted by GalaxyHorse (here)
    The Moon stuff worries me from J.Lear, and the Apollo debunking, I knew a guy who worked for NASA at the Australian tracking station during
    Apollo Moon landing-unless they had some very elaborate ruse going on, he confirms they tracked them all the way to the Moon, and back; hard to fake radio telescope
    tracking. That's all I'm saying.
    Very interesting, but it's not really a contradiction! As Henry Deacon explained to us...

    http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_4.html
    We asked Henry if the Apollo astronauts had actually gone to the moon. This was a question that had not actually previously occurred to us in earlier meetings. There was a long pause before Henry replied saying: Yes, they had. But it was not a simple answer.

    Most of the missions did indeed go to the moon, but some photos and film footage were fabricated for PR purposes, and - remarkably – some advanced technology was borrowed: a lightweight nano tech-skin shielding combined with a charged-field technology were utilized on some of the craft to provide very effective radiation shielding, combined with other technologies used to protect the astronauts from Gamma and other hazardous radiations and energetic particles during the journeys. Additional advanced “alien” technologies were added to land the Lunar Module and assist take-off from the moon.

    Some Apollo astronauts were aware of these technologies (though only a couple were aware of the alternative space program). This accounts for some general reluctance to be interviewed or to speak openly on the subject. Their anger at those who claim they never went at all is understandable, because they did indeed reach the moon. They were very brave men... and they had some help.

    Incredibly, Henry stated that the one moon we have now is known to have been engineered into position eons ago. When we asked if this was done by our ancestors or by our creators, the answer came back "both".

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    Bill, could we have your take on the soul catcher theory that Lear speaks of? The 6 mile high antennia with a cube on top that is a mile long on each side? Lear believes this could be the soul catcher and then again it could be something else.

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    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    Bill, could we have your take on the soul catcher theory that Lear speaks of? The 6 mile high antennia with a cube on top that is a mile long on each side? Lear believes this could be the soul catcher and then again it could be something else.
    Very simply: it could be (this is not impossible, and such things exist) -- but I personally doubt it in this instance.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    Bill, could we have your take on the soul catcher theory that Lear speaks of? The 6 mile high antennia with a cube on top that is a mile long on each side? Lear believes this could be the soul catcher and then again it could be something else.
    Very simply: it could be (this is not impossible, and such things exist) -- but I personally doubt it in this instance.
    I appreciate the reply Bill. That rabbit we all are chasing has dug itself a mighty deep hole that's for sure....

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    I like the comment John made "I reserve the right to change my mind". I think that's a very important idea for us all to keep in mind. My take on him is that he says it like he sees it, but he knows there is a tonn of disinformation out there.

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    John lear, like Bill Ryan, I listen to their opinions because they are not selling anything. John always says where he gets his beliefs from too.

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    And we have sought [to reach] the heaven but found it filled with powerful guards and burning flames.
    And we used to sit therein in positions for hearing, but whoever listens now will find a burning flame lying in wait for him.
    And among us are the righteous, and among us are [others] not so; we were [of] divided ways.
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