Barack Obama 2012

[meeradas]

Whoever...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QRHQFMK9iBs

http://www.zazzle.com/libertymaniacs

[jagman]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by jagman (here)

I took the trash out twice today and I did recycle.

Ya......I bet your wife told you to do it, lmao............kidding, well sorta

Your a bald tire trying to get traction...good luck causing the things that you are causing

What is that suppose to mean? Causing what? I'm kidding with the guy, cause I thought he was kidding with me? Lighten up

I most certainly was just kidding

[Snookie]

I like the bit George Carlin did on voting. He says cuz he stayed home on election day, he gets to point his finger at anyone who voted & say "look at the mess you got us all in".

[we-R-one]

Posted by Snookie (here)
I like the bit George Carlin did on voting. He says cuz he stayed home on election day, he gets to point his finger at anyone who voted & say "look at the mess you got us all in".

Exactly; that's why I posted the definition that I did. You see if you sat in front of a court of law, wouldn't they tell you in any other type of case that if you "willingly" participated then you're responsible. I see this happen with contracts all the time. So I see no difference with voting as you "volunteered" and nobody forced you to vote. And if you notice, when many of these whistle blowers come forward they often say, "they need your permission". It's the very reason why they put the truth right in front of your face and yet people still don't understand......cause if they put it front of you, than you can't say you weren't told.

And when you see how rigged these elections are, one comes to the conclusion that voting is merely an illusion to make you feel like you have some say. Youtube Bev Harris, founder of Black Box Voting for those who aren't familiar and she'll tell you how rigged elections are...she was just on Alex Jones about a week ago.


So I really don't see how voting makes one bit of difference, I'm sorry if that makes you angry, but some of us are sharing this with you to help you understand. They need your permission and you're giving it to them when you vote. A system can't function if the people don't participate it in.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xnDCz-ro3Z4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xnDCz-ro3Z4

[ghostrider]

I hope there is no election.

[ThePythonicCow]

I just deleted a few posts above. The discussion was getting a bit too personally antagonistic in my view. I only deleted some, not all of the posts that I might have deleted, so that the interested reader can still find posts of the sort that concerned me - showing more personal tensions than useful content.

Even if we personally feel strong in our decision about whether to vote and/or whom to vote for, please let other members come to different decisions.

On the other hand, however, even if some other member speaks quite sharply against a choice we have made, that doesn't mean they are attacking us personally. Let others choose and say as they will about such choices; that's their business.

In short, either way, don't make it, nor take it, too personally.

Thanks.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Don't waste a vote on Republician or Democrat, vote for Gary Johnson!

Third party presidential debate at 8pm eastern time Tuesday, Nov 6 at rt.com

The debate will present the 2 frontrunners - Gary Johnson and Jill Stein

Remember, not voting Demo or Repub is civil disobedience

[humanalien]

No doubt. Obama will win again.

[Camilo]

Obama, not that it makes any difference what so ever.

[Mozart]

I'll vote for my favorite write-in candidate who has won every single election ever since I started to vote. My vote win rate is 100%.


The name of the write-in candidate is:


"Jackass"

[gripreaper]

Obama or Romney? Neither. The winner is Goldman Sachs!

[gripreaper]

Three main points in US history need to be highlighted.

1. During the presidency of Lincoln, the Civil War and the Reconstruction Act. This is where they said, hey, we like having slaves, so how do we make everybody a slave? The Reconstruction Act did just that, as the Southern States walked out of congress, and congress NEVER reconvened, and an emergency session was called, a new corporate government was formed, and we have been in a perpetual state of emergency ever since. The whole country was surveyed into military districts, and the corporate state owns it all via aquiescence by the populace.

2. During the presidency of Woodrow Wilson in the early 1900's, the Federal Reserve Act was passed under the cover of darkness on Christmas Eve, when most senators and congressmen were home with their families. This event more people are familiar with, but the global banksters finally pulled off the "coup de etat" of getting control of the money supply. World War 1 as well as the spanish flu, were all part of breaking the country down and bankrupting it. It took till 1933 to completely destroy and own it.

3. During the presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1933, the final nails were put in the coffin of what was once a land of sovereign rugged individuals who braved the oceans to come here and live in freedom and be left alone. The bankrupcy of the corporate UNITED STATES , through receivership, pledged EVERYTHING to the banksters as collateral. All the gold was confiscated, debt instruments became the only medium of exchange, and guess who backs this sytem up?

YOU DO. YOU were the only asset that was left to attach to the bankrupcy, so you were pledged "in perpetuity" to the bankrupcy via your birth certificate and social security number, and WE back the dollar, the good faith and credit of the UNITED STATES is the labor of the people. So, when
we-R-one says we are the creditors, this is what she means. OUR SIGNATURE creates and backs the debt instruments which are entering commerce for circulation, and we pay the interest, ALL OF IT goes upstream to these banksters. They own everything, including you. DOES THAT NOT SEEM ODD TO YOU THAT THE CREDITOR PAYS THE DEBT?

You have NO SAY in who the corporate CEO is, or how the bankrupt trust is run, or who is appointed trustee, or who is on the board. You don't get to say jack sh!t.

Go find the congressional records for these three key periods in our history, and listen to the few senators who opposed the bankster takeover. I'd start with Senator McFadden and the 73rd congress... back engineer it to at least the Civil War.

Once you do that, the truth will shatter the illusion that the UNITED STATES is a country, has any form of representative government, that votes mean anything, or that you have any say in what happens through the political process.

Maybe at the local level you do, in your town, but not nationally. There are no nations or any such notions as far as the elite are concerned. That's just the lights on the hamster wheel you're looking at, and the warm blanket and pillow.

That's all it is.

[SilentFeathers]

That gerbil clip is hilarious!

Well, a couple more days and we'll know if Obama remains president or not....and in 3 more days the campaign for 2016 begins!

[Chester]

Grip is the greatest - slam dunk, precisely nailed post.

I would far rather know reality than attempt to find my way through a maze of illusions.

Thanks, gripreaper... Chester

[we-R-one]

You know grip and I say what we say, because we have chosen to focus our attention in this particular area during our process of seeking the truth. I come on this forum to share information of what I have learned and I think I have provided enough evidence between this thread and another in regards to the scam voting has brought about. I'm not going to repeat all I have posted because I don't want to sound like a broken record, though I probably all ready do. The definition of de facto government is worth repeating because it's not discussed enough in a manner where the public can realize they are "legally" being governed through their participation. My thought process isn't just an opinion, it's based on common sense and research of the related topics. The goal is not to make anyone feel bad, it's to educate and disseminate information to those who might not have come across the same info or who might not have the time to explore. Unfortunately I don't seem to get any respect for bringing that info to the forefront but instead the thanks I get is character assassination. Isn't the whole point of being on this forum, so we can help one another out by sharing what we have discovered?

When you get a basic understanding of how this country has been set up and you get a basic understanding as to how the legal system works, you recognize the correlation and quickly see the enormity of the problem, and want others made aware of the fraud that's taking place. Fraud probably isn't even the correct term, as in a court of law, they don't see what's being done as fraud, because you have acquiesced(voluntarily) to their system via your participation, that is how they see it. But I use the word "fraud" as I realize the main population base is programmed to think it as an appropriate term. What they're doing to us isn't unconstitutional, it's non-constitutional because the system is set up to run under common-law, corporate law, admiralty law,...not common law. It's all a play of words.....it can only be unconstitutional if we were following common law, which we're not, which is why judges hate when you make arguments based on your "constitutional rights" being violated.

At times I may poke fun at some of your comments, but I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you and only trying to add humor.......Like I new any of this stuff four years ago! It's not a rabbit hole that many care to explore, but indeed has to be, if one is to understand how we're to get out of this mess. You have to be able to identify the problem at its core, otherwise you cannot fix it!

Though everyone is allowed to have an opinion, in certain cases I'm more interested in those, when the opportunity exists, who back what they say with something tangible rather than a "feeling" as I find in many cases the "feeling" is often contrived by a "preconceived misconception" rather than the truth, as such in this case.......that being, it doesn't matter who you vote for when there is more than enough circumstantial evidence demonstrating that the presidential election is rigged. If you want out of the matrix, you have to get away from the concepts and procedures that keep pulling you back in; to do otherwise only keeps you and others on the merry-go-round that much longer.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Well, a couple more days and we'll know if Obama remains president or not....

Perhaps not so quickly .

Some of us have been anticipating a contested and controversial election, shades of the year 2000 contest between Bush and Gore.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Well, a couple more days and we'll know if Obama remains president or not....

Perhaps not so quickly .

Some of us have been anticipating a contested and controversial election, shades of the year 2000 contest between Bush and Gore.

Thanks Paul. At the risk of linking back to my own thread, plenty of people have even predicted a contested election, based on Mercury turning retrograde right over a black hole on the day of the election itself. Couldn't make this up, honestly.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rediction-time

[gooty64]

My suggestion is to pick one of the the two major party candidates, Obama or Romney.
Then go to your local voting station and vote for them on the computer there.
While there, make sure to get your I VOTED sticker and wear it proudly for the rest of the day wherever you go and don't cover it with a jacket.
Then for the next four years watch TV to see how it all turned out for you.
It's a win-win situation!
On TV, either you can see how good of a job your guy did and feel righteous about your correct vote or,
you can see how bad of a job the other guy did and feel righteous because you didn't vote for him.
Brilliant!

[marique3652]

Posted by gooty64 (here)
My suggestion is to pick one of the the two major party candidates, Obama or Romney.
Then go to your local voting station and vote for them on the computer there.
While there, make sure to get your I VOTED sticker and wear it proudly for the rest of the day wherever you go and don't cover it with a jacket.
Then for the next four years watch TV to see how it all turned out for you.
It's a win-win situation!
On TV, either you can see how good of a job your guy did and feel righteous about your correct vote or,
you can see how bad of a job the other guy did and feel righteous because you didn't vote for him.
Brilliant!

This thought IS BRILLIANT!!!! Wished I'd have thought of that, lol.

[Snookie]

It's interesting, I just heard on the MSM news that because of hurricane Sandy they are going to allow people to vote via email or fax. I wonder how they will be able to ensure that people haven't voted multiple times?

I didn't listen closely enough to know if this was only going to be allowed in certain areas or not, but even if they did limit it how would they be able to monitor it in any meaningful way?