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    100 % Obama will win ..... not any doubt about it

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Well i'm not an American but i can tell you that i would not vote for Obama.
    I don't know if Romney will be any better but at least it is Change and Hope


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    i guess obama will win but it will change nothing



    the owl at the end is interesting

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    Default MSM : A beginning (Washington Post and Newsweek hit Obama)

    I don't vote and don't like Romney any more than Obama but thought i'd pass this along.






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    Strong words!!

    Washington Post and Newsweek hit Obama


    THE WASHINGTON POST HITS OBAMA

    Finally, the Washington Post and Newsweek speak out about Obama. This is timely
    and tough. As many of you know, the Washington Post and Newsweek have a reputation
    for being extremely liberal. The fact that their editors saw fit to print
    the following article about Obama and the one that appears in the latest Newsweek, makes this a truly amazing event,
    and a news story in and of itself. At last, the truth about our
    President and his agenda are starting to trickle through the
    “protective wall” built around him by the liberal media.

    ___________________________
    I Too Have Become Disillusioned.

    By Matt Patterson (columnist - Washington Post, New York Post, San
    Francisco Examiner)

    Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack
    Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a
    baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the
    Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of
    professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could
    manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful
    military, execute the world's most consequential job?

    Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life:
    ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades
    and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community
    organizer;" a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative
    achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did
    he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the
    United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his
    presidential ambitions.

    He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature
    legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his
    troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher
    who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life,
    actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political
    sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all
    and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?

    Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz
    addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be
    sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken
    hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist
    like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama
    was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberal Dom to have
    hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if
    they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass. Let that sink in: Obama
    was given a pass - held to a lower standard - because of the color of
    his skin.

    Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history
    matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself
    had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance
    to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of
    racism to rest?

    Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the
    Obama phenomenon - affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of
    course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all
    affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily
    to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about
    themselves.

    Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat
    themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools
    for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the
    inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow.
    Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't
    around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self-esteem
    resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes,
    racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the
    color of his skin - that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if
    that isn't racism, then nothing is.

    And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never
    troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many
    have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite
    undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough
    for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told
    he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the
    Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was
    good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the
    contrary.

    What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display
    every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked
    executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory
    skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people - conservatives
    included - ought now to be deeply embarrassed.

    The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that's when
    he has his Teleprompters in front of him; when the prompter is absent
    he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever
    issued from his mouth - it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that
    has failed over and over again for 100 years.

    And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and
    everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I
    inherited this mess. Remember, he wanted the job, campaigned for the
    task. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise
    his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But
    really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for
    anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

    In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the
    temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand
    that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of
    liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise
    with such a man in the Oval Office.


    GOD BLESS AMERICA......!!!!!!







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    Default Re: MSM : A beginning (Washington Post and Newsweek hit Obama)

    How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of
    professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could
    manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful
    military, execute the world's most consequential job?

    Good question. perhaps he got advice from George W.?

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    Default Re: MSM : A beginning (Washington Post and Newsweek hit Obama)

    Sorry if its in there and I missed it... where is the link to this article? I want to post it on my Facebook Corruption Page.

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    Default Re: MSM : A beginning (Washington Post and Newsweek hit Obama)

    Those 2 publications are garbage. A total mind****!

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    Default Re: MSM : A beginning (Washington Post and Newsweek hit Obama)

    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Sorry if its in there and I missed it... where is the link to this article? I want to post it on my Facebook Corruption Page.
    Corey, I'm not good on computers so I hope this is helpful.
    Otherwise, if you Google 'Newsweek' this will come up.


    Niall Ferguson: Obama’s Gotta Go (Newsweek)

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    That worked. Thanks. I fancified up the link for you, to make it easier to click on. -Paul. ]
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    I have to say, the title of this thread underscores the real problem: acquiescence to the duopoly. As Gripreaper pointed out, it isn't even constitutional, but setting that aside for a moment, just exactly which election cycle will not be "critical?"

    When will third parties have a chance because it is not "critical" to vote for the least worst of two scumbags? As a quintessential psychological ploy, every election is deemed and hyped as "critical" - to keep the scariest monster out of office. Citizens fall for it every time. This is acquiescence to the duopoly.

    The members of the citizenry did not even pick the two people running for any "high" office in the US - this is done by the inner-circle's political machinery within the two gangs, er, dominant political parties forming the duopoly (which are, in turn, completely controlled by Big Money and status-quo influence of corporatists, banksters and militarists.) I think VERY few voters ever even stop to understand that point. To a great extent, this is probably not cloak and dagger, sneaky backroom behind-the-curtain stuff. The short list of acceptable candidates the inner political machinery selects from includes lawyers and businessmen. Did you think that was an accident or a coincidence? Why do you think we US citizens are not voting for any anthropologists, sculptors, musicians, machinists, or carpenters? So the first level of culling is to dismiss anyone who is not "of the cloth", of the same ilk as the ones who have gone before. They only pre-select those who are bought-into corporatism, people who already agree with the agenda of the Financial Elite (and who are themselves quite likely Financial Elite wannabees.)

    I used to think that the Financial Elite bought-off candidates. Now, I suspect that is extremely rare. They don't have to, they simply narrow the initial pool down to people who have already bought-into the status quo politics and policies. That saves them a lot of work, and keeps the exposure for things like bribery down to a minute level.

    So, what happens when US citizens vote between 2 people that have already accepted ruthless, greed-driven, sociopathic, predatory capitalism* as their personal saviour? My oh my, we end up with legislators that are 60% lawyers and about 40% corporate businessmen - who then go on to support the agenda of the Financial Elite. How do you think they will then represent you, Joe Average citizen? On the other hand, how do you think they will represent corporations? Did you realize that the answer to the preceding two questions is available, and is not conjecture? Go back through all of the legislation passed by the US Congress, finding all of the (truly) citizen-centric and eco-centric legislation that has been passed. C'mon, I challenge you! Be careful not to get tripped-up on Orwellian doublespeak titles on the bills, but actually read them. Make three lists:
    1. legislation that is obviously primarily corporate-centric (includes banking-centric and military-centric)
    2. legislation that is obviously truly citizen centric (primarily benefits citizens) and/or eco-centric (primarily beneficial to the ecosphere.)
    3. and a third list for any legislation that is not clearly for or against the interests of citizens or corporations
    List #1 will be enormous; list #2 will be tiny. But if you don't understand that this is the truth, down to the marrow of your bones, then please, do the research work and see what legislation has passed. Start from now, go backwards and go back decades.

    Oh, I almost forgot to mention, the US presidential race is only the center ring in the 3-ring circus, though most of the spotlights are focused there. Meanwhile, Congress relatively quietly loses a few corporatists and replaces them with a few more corporatists every 2 years. This is the body (made up of virtually 100% members of the two parties in the duopoly) that creates NO citizen-centric legislation and lots of corporate-centric legislation.

    None of this is EVER going to change until citizens destroy the framework of the duopoly.

    Dennis

    *(I don't want to argue about low-level, mutually-beneficial, "I'll trade 2 of my chickens or 20 dollars for a bushel of your carrots" capitalism. That is NOT the game played at the level that corporatists play the game.)

    p.s. p.s. I love what Glen Ford has to say about the duopoly:

    http://blackagendareport.com/content...debates-itself


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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

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    Pepsi
    • Sweeter tasting
    • Less gassy

    Coke
    • Tastes more acidic
    • More gassy

    Either
    • Rots your guts
    • Rots your teeth
    • Strips the body of nutrients
    • Probably good for cleaning toilets/washbasins/copper coins etc
    • Both look the same
    • Despite minor differences & the war portrayed in the media, they're pretty much interchangeable
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    I personally want Mitt as I am a GHWB fan ...

    ... I am sure I will upset a few friends I have here by stating who I wanted and why but clearly i don't care what people think as much as I care about being honest.
    ...
    Cheers, Chester
    Wow! I admire your honesty, but find your admission deeply disturbing. It isn't so much wanting Romney (as opposed to voting for Romney due to a powerful negative reaction to Obama, and being stuck in the duopoly.) What I find deeply disturbing is that anyone coud say, "I am a GHWB fan"

    You mentioned elsewhere that Houman's thread on Archons was life-changing for you - presumably because you gained an awareness and understanding of some of the profound origins and pathways of the expression of pure evil on Earth. I assume you know that many (maybe even most) people in the alternative community see George Herbert Walker Bush as about as close to pure evil as it gets.

    Pardon me for putting you in the hot seat, but damn, seated at the right hand of GHWB, you put yourself in the hot seat.

    Dennis


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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    PS that GHWB thingy is kind of a deal breaker isn't it?

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    I personally want Mitt as I am a GHWB fan ...

    ... I am sure I will upset a few friends I have here by stating who I wanted and why but clearly i don't care what people think as much as I care about being honest.
    ...
    Cheers, Chester
    Wow! I admire your honesty, but find your admission deeply disturbing. It isn't so much wanting Romney (as opposed to voting for Romney due to a powerful negative reaction to Obama, and being stuck in the duopoly.) What I find deeply disturbing is that anyone coud say, "I am a GHWB fan"

    You mentioned elsewhere that Houman's thread on Archons was life-changing for you - presumably because you gained an awareness and understanding of some of the profound origins and pathways of the expression of pure evil on Earth. I assume you know that many (maybe even most) people in the alternative community see George Herbert Walker Bush as about as close to pure evil as it gets.

    Pardon me for putting you in the hot seat, but damn, seated at the right hand of GHWB, you put yourself in the hot seat.

    Dennis

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Regardless of who get's positioned to CEO of the USA, I think we are all in the hot seat so to speak and things are going to still be a mess...some call these CEO's puppets, perhaps they are; or could it actually be all of us that are dangling on the end of the strings?
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    The world waits for Americans to make a statement about who they are, what they want, what they value and who they are ...!

    But, if Americans can get out of their myopia, perhaps they might consider the following:

    1 The economic squeeze is happening all over the world, and Americans are not suffering the most, by a long shot.

    2 There is a leadership crisis all over the world (corruption and lack of morals and so on, is spreading like a cancer all over the world)

    3 Blatant disregard for human rights, lies, despotic control, and so on is a worldwide problem. Those who have access to wealth and power are becoming so blatant in holding on to and getting more, and the lies and corruption are becoming so apparant (and yet the majority seem blind and deaf and stupid). Obama is flawed and indaequate in many ways, but Romney is very scary. But I sense that the destination is the same, no matter how we get there and no matter what difficult path we choose (i.e. we will overcome and defeat this bigoted, greedy, immoral cancer that is spreading).

    4 Crazy unthinkable violence is spreading unfettered, everywhere. This crazy unthinkable violence and abuse is not only happening in America.

    Deep down I sense that we have to go through these troubled times and part of our liberation is to embrace a perspective that is beyond and greater than our blinkered view.

    Enjoy election day Americans. Be intelligent and authentic in choosing how you vote. With the choices on offer, what do you really want as an American, for yourself and your country (and then to force on the rest of the world!!)?

    No matter what you choose, the world will still be filled with beauty and potential and wonder! No evil, no matter what it is or how it manifests, can destroy that.

    By the way, I openly proclaim that I am a radical liberal who supports and embraces respect and acceptance of all. I find the death penalty appalling; I support equal opportunities and treatment for everyone, no matter what your gender or sexual preference is; I want a society in which we carry those who are weak and vulnerable rather than seek our own well being with disregard what the cost may be; I want the whole world to take a giant leap beyond the stupidity of racial discrimination, and never look back; I want us to realise that a reasoin for doing something is not an excuse and teach our children that. (By the way, I also passionately believe that murderers, rapists, paedophiles, immoral thieves and so on should be seperated from society, but treated with decency behind locked doors. If we kill, then we are also murderers. If we torture, then we are also terrorsits. If we abuse in any way, then we are also abusers.)
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    This is exactly how I feel about the election

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Some things may be hidden in plain sight....

    Quote Obama Campaign to Supporters: Don’t Panic Over Early Exit Polls

    In a conference call this afternoon, President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign had one central message for their supporters when Election Day arrives tomorrow: They should “keep calm,” even if they hear snippets of information favoring Republican Mitt Romney.
    More: http://politicker.com/2012/11/obama-...ly-exit-polls/
    If Obama loses, we may see some very disturbing behavior....
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    I personally want Mitt as I am a GHWB fan ...

    ... I am sure I will upset a few friends I have here by stating who I wanted and why but clearly i don't care what people think as much as I care about being honest.
    ...
    Cheers, Chester
    Wow! I admire your honesty, but find your admission deeply disturbing. It isn't so much wanting Romney (as opposed to voting for Romney due to a powerful negative reaction to Obama, and being stuck in the duopoly.) What I find deeply disturbing is that anyone coud say, "I am a GHWB fan"

    You mentioned elsewhere that Houman's thread on Archons was life-changing for you - presumably because you gained an awareness and understanding of some of the profound origins and pathways of the expression of pure evil on Earth. I assume you know that many (maybe even most) people in the alternative community see George Herbert Walker Bush as about as close to pure evil as it gets.

    Pardon me for putting you in the hot seat, but damn, seated at the right hand of GHWB, you put yourself in the hot seat.

    Dennis
    Hi Dennis and thanks for the response and so I will explain myself. I am fully aware of the reputation of GHWB amongst those within the "alternative community." I happened to have read Kathy O'Brian's book too and it was perhaps one of the hardest reads I ever endured. I am an extremely open minded individual. I can believe anything.

    At the same time, I have had no direct experiences with the man. Yet, I have friends who have and their experiences as they have related to me are not even in the same universe as to the experiences I have heard via the alternate community. It has been extremely difficult for me to be able to reconcile what I have been informed by the alternative community (which includes first hand testimonies from what seem to be in many cases very credible individuals - Stu Webb also comes to mind) with the few folks I have known personally who have had direct, first hand experience with GHWB and/or his son "W."

    In addition, I have watched interviews of GHWB and I cannot reconcile what I consider to be this man (strictly my impressions) and the picture that is painted by the alternative community.

    Again, I just had to be honest that unless I had or am able to have a direct experience with GHWB which I would consider unacceptable, then my nature is to give him (and anyone else for that matter) the benefit of the doubt.

    I used to not be this way, but I am this way now. I will only, ever judge a woman or man as to if I trust 'em or not, if I like 'em or not based only upon my own, first hand experience with them.

    That's just me though. And perhaps I may be foolish, but I would rather be wrong with this approach than to make up my mind based on third party accounts from folks I never met in my life.

    Chester
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Heard this one today, I'll have to FACT CHECK that one (just before the election, perfect time for rumours):

    "The name Romney equals the number 666 in both lower case ASCII computer code and in alpha basis 100 reversed code."

    As for GHWB, I know someone who spent some time in his presence and found him to be very nice.

    However, I reserve the right for this analysis to be quite wrong.

    As for all that, I do know some sociopaths who are very nice.

    Until you are in their way, or it is time to 'not be nice'. I've dealt with murderers before. It is then that you find out who they really are.
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Silent feather, you may repent dearly when we will be in a third world war thanks to Romney, a little bit faster than thought of by Obama.

    Isn't there any third possible vote in an obscure corner of the voting ticket oh! I mean screen controlled by Romney anyhow?


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    I also know someone who has been in the presence of father Bush GHWB, he was not nice at all.

    Both sides of the coin. Truly depending on whose path one is crossing and why.
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