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    The whole world is watching you, dear USA.

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    this is soooo difficult to see that even at Avalon, where we are immersed in conspirations, the negative stuff of the world, therefore used to it, that some would still believe some political parties and individuals are in fact good for the people.

    Just now imagine the general population, how embezzlement, killings, pedophilia in politics, drug trafficking from high up in the administrations, name it, just imagine how hard it is for the general public just to think it may be a possibility, forget a certitude.

    This is why it is so easy for the Rotchilds and Queens and Vaticans and Rockerfellers of this world to manipulate the crowd.
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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    In California they have a 3 strike rule for non violent offenses, there are 20 year old sitting in jail for life costing tax payers well over 2 million over the 70 years it will take for them to rot and die...

    or $50K could be spent to run them through re-hab and they can train and become counselors to help other kids in trouble...

    without voting those kids can't get helped because carved in stone is a 3 strike law...

    but voting means nothing, huh

    do you have voting in Malaysia? like your leaders too much to bother I guess huh...
    Okay, point 1- I sympathize with the incarcerated kids. Please elaborate on how voting will change this?

    Point 2- I am not allowed to vote in Malaysia because I am a foreign national on a retirement visa. The elections here are rigged anyway. Before that I haven't lived in a democracy since I left the UK in 1996, since when I have lived in Hong Kong, China, and the UAE. I don't rate democracy at all, the UK (like the USA) pretends to have a democracy but then gives you a choice to periodically switch between 2 parties with identical principles and policies on everything. In Hong Kong, without democracy, the people are able to impress their opinions on the government sucessfully, through having a highly educated and intelligent population and a mainland government which is (so far) afraid to let loose the PLA on the streets of the capitalists playground.

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)

    Well, Prescott Bush financed the biggest and bloodiest World War so far on the planet, and Georgie boy was first CIA director, if you know anything about why the CIA was first commissioned, and what they have done during their tenure.

    Not to mention the bloodline lineage of the Bushes and who they really are and where they really came from. Quite frankly, they are the most despicable and profoundly putrid scum on this planet at this time, that I can envision. The Bushes are responsible for millions of deaths, and should be shot on site.

    I don't need direct experience to know this. I'll stand up for the millions and millions who died from the blood on the Bushes hands...They are self centered, narcissistic, hedonistic, paedophile, sociopathic, psychopathic, murderous, inhumane, reptile scumbags.
    Not quite. It went like this:

    3.1 Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, 1947–1950
    3.2 Walter Bedell Smith, 1950–1953
    3.3 Allen W. Dulles 1953–1961
    3.4 John McCone 1961–1965
    3.5 William Raborn 1965–1966
    3.6 Richard M. Helms 1966–1973
    3.7 James R. Schlesinger 1973
    3.8 William Colby 1973–1976
    3.9 George H. W. Bush 1976–1977
    3.10 Stansfield Turner 1977–1981
    3.11 William J. Casey 1981–1987
    3.12 William H. Webster 1987–1991
    3.13 Robert M. Gates 1991–1993
    3.14 R. James Woolsey 1993–1995
    3.15 John M. Deutch 1995–1996
    3.16 George J. Tenet 1997–2004
    3.17 Porter J. Goss 2004–2005

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directo...l_Intelligence
    Interdimensional Civil Servant

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    WHAT gripreaper?
    A handsome man with a gentle comforting voice speaking into the camera with a peace message from the United Nations.
    He means wells, spoke nicely and looked gently into the camera, WHAT gripreaper?
    New World Order, We Are All One, UNITY.
    What's the difference, Mr.?
    I have never met him in person and he did no harm to me, so WHAT Gripreaper is wrong with this message from GHWB?

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    At the same time, I have had no direct experiences with the man. Chester
    Heres some direct experience for you Chester.

    Well, Prescott Bush financed the biggest and bloodiest World War so far on the planet, and Georgie boy was first CIA director, if you know anything about why the CIA was first commissioned, and what they have done during their tenure.

    Not to mention the bloodline lineage of the Bushes and who they really are and where they really came from. Quite frankly, they are the most despicable and profoundly putrid scum on this planet at this time, that I can envision. The Bushes are responsible for millions of deaths, and should be shot on site.

    I don't need direct experience to know this. I'll stand up for the millions and millions who died from the blood on the Bushes hands...They are self centered, narcissistic, hedonistic, paedophile, sociopathic, psychopathic, murderous, inhumane, reptile scumbags.
    Here, around the 18 minute mark, Eustice Mullins talks about GHWB and his schenanigans:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...xcellent-video
    "Lay Down Your Truth and Check Your Weapons
    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhS69C1tr0w

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Worth sharing here too.

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Well, it's election day.

    I still think Mittens will come out on top...if I'm right (which I may not be) there is a huge potential for race riots to break out over Obama losing.

    The president of this country may or may not be in control of anything, but they sure do "influence" the population to a large extent.

    Regardless of what we here on this forum think, the majority of the masses actually believe that whoever wins today becomes the leader and controller of this country.

    The "idea" of what the majority of people are brainwashed to believe is often more powerful than what they actually visually and physically witness, or are living.
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    WHAT gripreaper?
    A handsome man with a gentle comforting voice speaking into the camera with a peace message from the United Nations.
    He means wells, spoke nicely and looked gently into the camera, WHAT gripreaper?
    New World Order, We Are All One, UNITY.
    What's the difference, Mr.?
    I have never met him in person and he did no harm to me, so WHAT Gripreaper is wrong with this message from GHWB?

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    At the same time, I have had no direct experiences with the man. Chester
    Heres some direct experience for you Chester.

    Well, Prescott Bush financed the biggest and bloodiest World War so far on the planet, and Georgie boy was first CIA director, if you know anything about why the CIA was first commissioned, and what they have done during their tenure.

    Not to mention the bloodline lineage of the Bushes and who they really are and where they really came from. Quite frankly, they are the most despicable and profoundly putrid scum on this planet at this time, that I can envision. The Bushes are responsible for millions of deaths, and should be shot on site.

    I don't need direct experience to know this. I'll stand up for the millions and millions who died from the blood on the Bushes hands...They are self centered, narcissistic, hedonistic, paedophile, sociopathic, psychopathic, murderous, inhumane, reptile scumbags.
    Eustice Mullins talks about GHWB and his schenanigans:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...xcellent-video
    Every time I bring up Eustice Mullins and her excellent work, on other forums of course, they immediately shoot her down by pulling the anti-semitism card. The shame of it is that the Reptilians running this planet are not even "Jews", they are Khazars, and all it takes is a little visit to the wiki Khazar page to find out that this bloodline has always been about war and mercenaries. No co-incidence that we've seen nothing but war and pseudo-war since these clowns got control of the American money system.

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    I thought Eustice was a "he" not a she????
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    I thought Eustice was a "he" not a she????
    LOL!! You're right! I never saw a picture of the guy and only read some of his writings... sounds like a lady's name though.... thanks for saving me from future embarassment

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    "Dear God~May peace prevail this election season.

    Please send Your angels to protect the vote, casting out all energy that would obstruct our good.

    We send love & peace to all the candidates, & to all our fellow Americans.

    Bless our country, uplift our politics, & through us please bless the world. Amen"

    ~Marianne Williamson

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    When will third parties have a chance because it is not "critical" to vote for the least worst of two scumbags? As a quintessential psychological ploy, every election is deemed and hyped as "critical" - to keep the scariest monster out of office. Citizens fall for it every time. This is acquiescence to the duopoly.

    The members of the citizenry did not even pick the two people running for any "high" office in the US - this is done by the inner-circle's political machinery within the two gangs, er, dominant political parties forming the duopoly (which are, in turn, completely controlled by Big Money and status-quo influence of corporatists, banksters and militarists.) I think VERY few voters ever even stop to understand that point. To a great extent, this is probably not cloak and dagger, sneaky backroom behind-the-curtain stuff. The short list of acceptable candidates the inner political machinery selects from includes lawyers and businessmen. Did you think that was an accident or a coincidence? Why do you think we US citizens are not voting for any anthropologists, sculptors, musicians, machinists, or carpenters? So the first level of culling is to dismiss anyone who is not "of the cloth", of the same ilk as the ones who have gone before. They only pre-select those who are bought-into corporatism, people who already agree with the agenda of the Financial Elite (and who are themselves quite likely Financial Elite wannabees.)
    Thanks Dennis. It might be beneficial to note, that the original 13th amendment to the Constitution, that no "titles of nobility" such as esquires "attorneys" could hold office, was removed. When that was removed and the new amendment added, it gave attorneys the right to hold office and made all of us slaves!

    Most know very little about our history, or have read any of the congressional records from any of the congresses. They don't even have to do that, for souls like Eustice Mullins spent 50 years doing just that, and pioneered the patriot movement. All of the current writers can attribute their information to Eustice, a very humble man. He spent 10 years working at the library of Congress, and would stay the night there and read all night. A wealth of information.

    RIP Eustice. You were the greatest.
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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Quote Posted by bram (here)
    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    In California they have a 3 strike rule for non violent offenses, there are 20 year old sitting in jail for life costing tax payers well over 2 million over the 70 years it will take for them to rot and die...

    or $50K could be spent to run them through re-hab and they can train and become counselors to help other kids in trouble...

    without voting those kids can't get helped because carved in stone is a 3 strike law...

    but voting means nothing, huh

    do you have voting in Malaysia? like your leaders too much to bother I guess huh...
    Okay, point 1- I sympathize with the incarcerated kids. Please elaborate on how voting will change this?

    Point 2- I am not allowed to vote in Malaysia because I am a foreign national on a retirement visa. The elections here are rigged anyway. Before that I haven't lived in a democracy since I left the UK in 1996, since when I have lived in Hong Kong, China, and the UAE. I don't rate democracy at all, the UK (like the USA) pretends to have a democracy but then gives you a choice to periodically switch between 2 parties with identical principles and policies on everything. In Hong Kong, without democracy, the people are able to impress their opinions on the government sucessfully, through having a highly educated and intelligent population and a mainland government which is (so far) afraid to let loose the PLA on the streets of the capitalists playground.
    in America if we find the ones ruling our country have made laws that are wrong, we can bring them up and vote on it.

    The 3 strike law at the time sounded like a good idea, until the jails started being filled by kids who were caught running drugs, or other non violent offenses and they are sent away for life.

    the cost for each of these prisoners over their lifetime is well over $2 million, we prefer sending them through rehab and getting them into a productive part of society.

    We the People of California have come together to say it aint right...

    now we are watching the votes to see if enough said yes, to change it.

    it isn't all about electing leaders, you can say none of the above and not vote for anyone and just vote on these changes to the state.

    Roseanne Barr is a Presidential Candidate in California...

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    Romney owned electronic voting machines being shut off and replaced with paper ballet voting because of glitches... Thanks Anonymous!!!

    Quote Hart Intercivic, meanwhile, provides voting machines for 370 jurisdictions around the nation, with about 17.7 million registered voters.

    One of the jurisdictions with Hart Intercivic equipment is Hamilton County -- which includes Cincinnati, the third-largest city in the hotly contested swing state of Ohio... link to story
    this is one of their Pennsylvania machines...


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    Exclamation Video Proof: Voting Machine Registers Obama Vote as Romney Vote

    Video proof that an election machine today is registering a vote for Obama as one for Romney:



    The voter/uploader is a software developer, so he doesn't think it's a glitch. The uploader’s comments:

    Quote Posted by centralparkvote
    My wife and I went to the voting booths this morning before work. There were 4 older ladies running the show and 3 voting booths that are similar to a science fair project in how they fold up. They had an oval VOTE logo on top center and a cartridge slot on the left that the volunteers used to start your ballot.


    I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney.

    Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'. From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine. All other buttons worked fine.


    I asked the voters on either side of me if they had any problems and they reported they did not. I then called over a volunteer to have a look at it. She him hawed for a bit then calmly said "It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK." and went back to what she was doing. I then recorded this video.


    There is a lot of speculation that the footage is edited. I'm not a video guy, but if it's possible to prove whether a video has been altered or not, I will GLADLY provide the raw footage to anyone who is willing to do so. The jumping frames are a result of the ****ty camera app on my Android phone, nothing more.
    Why am I not surprised?

    Sadly,

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    Default Re: Election prediction: Obama or Romney?

    is that a joke or is that true????

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    Default Re: Video Proof: Voting Machine Registers Obama Vote as Romney Vote

    wow this is surprising cause it is easy to spot. I thought the offense would be done in the counting algorithm, not the voting side.

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    Default Re: Video Proof: Voting Machine Registers Obama Vote as Romney Vote

    Is it not Romney's brother that owns the company supplying the voting machines?
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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