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    In a spirit journey once I met a girl. At the time I had decided to look into the secret underground bases. It was like remote viewing but I immersed my bodies in it and felt my way around with all my senses in a kind of whole body projection. I met this girl under there and she was being kept against her will. She had been there for most of her life, having been taken there as a child along with a group of them, all of whom had gifts. She showed me some terrible atrocities that had occurred there (and they were shocking and extremely traumatic).

    This girl (she was a woman actually, a young woman) was very powerful, in telepathy and mind projection, also deeply sad because she wanted to be free but there was no chance of escape. She kept hope that one day she would be free. With such a huge mind she spent a lot of her time journeying above ground just as I was journeying below. I suppose it was fate that we met in the middle and our fields were a lot alike.

    Immersed in our communion, I was walking up my street that day, bare feet on a hot black tarmac, double full silk skirts beautiful and ragged with the top one half tied up into a bustle, tanned and wild, she said to me: "I am going to prove to you that I exist". I said OK. Not far from this point there was a property with a row of palm trees lining the street front. She said, and pointed: "Do you see those palm trees?". And the thing was that this was not a question. It was rhetorical. It was a statement. It was the first part of a sentence, to which the answer was obviously not me saying "yes". I could hear it. The answer to it was silent and hanging.

    Then, a car pulled up along side (I was hitching into town). It was a man and his daughter and they lived on my street - it was a long street by the way. I sat in the passenger side and turned around to have a conversation with the little girl for most of the trip. I forget what we talked about. just stuff. But then, as we had finished the journey into town and the father was focusing on parking, the girl looked at me and in an intense tone, very different from the moment before it and on a total tangential unrelated wavefront said: "I saw those palm trees you know" And I just looked.. and slowly said "which ones" .. she said "the ones where we picked you up" and she said it though I should know very well what she was talking about. The tone she said it in was that she saw them and she had to let me know that she did, in that if she hadn't said so then the obvious was not being said, and she had to say it. And just as she had said that last line, the side door next to her opened because her father had parked and was getting her out of the car... and I could not ask her any more... about what the F*CK. (had just happened)???


    So... the girl in the underground base had read my palm.

    How unbelievably smart was that? She had read the field's palm. What that indicated was that the scalar translation fields were operational and working so that what was being communicated between me and her (and all that embodied us and vice versa) was accurate in form. We know that things are not perfectly translated in these kinds of spirit journeys and inner ways of communicating. One of the most entertaining yet unreliable communication methods. But, for some of us, that is the only way we HAVE. Like her [and plenty of other spiritual savants like myself]. It is also natural. We are a mixture of compelled to go there or find that it is the only place we have true communication with living things. For her, who else did she have to talk to?

    The thing is that, it may not have been her that did it (or even just her that did it), but what 'she' represented in a scalar sense. It also may very well have been exactly what it seemed. But that isn't really the point, its doesn't matter so much about the particulars. Whoever 'she' was, consciousness existed and did some amazing sh*t. And also, we remember the people who are down there against their will, the atrocities that have been committed in underground bases and everywhere else, and the continuing suffering of those held anywhere against their will.


    My life flows on in endless song;
    Above earth's lamentation,
    I hear the sweet, tho' far-off hymn
    That hails a new creation;
    Thro' all the tumult and the strife
    I hear the music ringing;
    It finds an echo in my soul--
    How can I keep from singing?

    When tyrants tremble, sick with fear,
    And hear their death-knell ringing,
    When friends rejoice both far and near,
    How can I keep from singing?
    In prison cell and dungeon vile,
    Our thoughts to them go winging;
    When friends by shame are undefiled,
    How can I keep from singing?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Can...rom_Singing%3F

    And this was the street: https://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=newes+rd+coorabell&sll=-32.010396,135.119128&sspn=95.715681,214.277344&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Newes+Rd,+Coorabell+New +South+Wales+2479&ll=-28.621747,153.473253&spn=0.053342,0.104628&z=14&iwloc=A

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    Beautiful/sad story
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    I wonder if she is still there, still alive, did she ever get out. And these children that were taken here, they all had gifts. I cannot remember where I heard the story surrounding that but I know it's known about. Does anyone have any further information surrounding that story? I think it was in the 1980's that it occurred.
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    I loved the story... just plain amazing... and I so wish...to have experiences like you...and help these little children and adults stuck there... all love & energy to them...

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    That was a really impactfull story. I read the Stewart swerdlow stuff about mountalk and the children who were taken there and abused/ murdered. It took me a long time to accept there may be some truth in all of this
    Preston and nichols have backed swerdlow's story in so how it relates to the abuse/ torture/ murder of those children. Sometimes this stuff makes me want to hide my head in the sand and put my fingers in my ears.

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    Thank you for that beautifully written piece Shade. It really reaches your soul and inspires me to keep this very much alive. To honour and serve the human rights of these people, we must continue a road to freedom.
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    That was a really impactfull story. I read the Stewart swerdlow stuff about mountalk and the children who were taken there and abused/ murdered. It took me a long time to accept there may be some truth in all of this
    Preston and nichols have backed swerdlow's story in so how it relates to the abuse/ torture/ murder of those children. Sometimes this stuff makes me want to hide my head in the sand and put my fingers in my ears.
    Firstly: Mountalk? I've tried googling this, but can't find anything, do you have any info on this?

    Also, to the original topic, this may be a stupid question, but if you traveled there before, can you not go back? You could go and see if she is still there, if she is ok.

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    That was a really impactfull story. I read the Stewart swerdlow stuff about mountalk and the children who were taken there and abused/ murdered. It took me a long time to accept there may be some truth in all of this
    Preston and nichols have backed swerdlow's story in so how it relates to the abuse/ torture/ murder of those children. Sometimes this stuff makes me want to hide my head in the sand and put my fingers in my ears.
    Firstly: Mountalk? I've tried googling this, but can't find anything, do you have any info on this?

    Also, to the original topic, this may be a stupid question, but if you traveled there before, can you not go back? You could go and see if she is still there, if she is ok.
    montauk sorry I'm on my phone

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    montauk sorry I'm on my phone
    ah sweet, thanks I'll look into it

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    Ok I just read the wiki on Montauk. This, if it occurred, was probably the precursor to what the girl I met was involved in, because montauk was in the 50s??? What I remember reading was about the more modern case. I heard that the children were involved with time experiments, alternate earth portal technology and general psych warfare; mind control at a distance, remote viewing. I also heard that many were groomed for top positions in the black ops.

    What I saw from the woman I met was, for her, about them trying to use her to access information about people, places, things. Also, to work in groups with others like her to try to bring events about. However, many people with gifts like this have an innate sense of right and wrong. Not all of them do, may I just add. Not that anything is in itself 'bad' it's about context, but what if they were being asked to do things that an individual knew was not right.. then can you imagine the conflicts that they would have had to go through? I mean you could pretend to not do something but if you did maybe they no longer need you and would do away with you.

    Something else interesting I saw when I was in my underjourneying was a project called 'moon women' - it was a breeding program being carried out in an underground environment with a number of aims. First of all to see how humans cope with being born and bred underground and also, general genetic engineering things - their aim was to make women as beautiful as possible. And so there is an entire world under there possibly.. where very rich and lucky men can go - and play actual gods or whatever they have put into place in this world as the logos of choice. Because from scratch the people in this place only know exactly what has been given to them as their reality. So it would be a psyche experiment as well. I cannot say if this is a real thing or not, however, it doesn't sound too far off the board even in a logical extension. For example - we are pretty certain they have huge underground living spaces. So as IF they wouldn't check out how humans live and survive under there before they have to use them for real. And if given the opportunity to breed people there as IF they wouldn't make them as beautiful as possible. Maybe even better suited to the underground world than 'earth' women.
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    Oh for sure there are top secret underground facilities that people are spending their entire life times in no doubt about it shade. Phil Schneider was talking about this stuff back in 94', and was then killed for it. Here is an interview with Swerdlow where he talks about Montauk at length. Montauk and the alien connection

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    Ok I just read the wiki on Montauk. This, if it occurred, was probably the precursor to what the girl I met was involved in, because montauk was in the 50s??? What I remember reading was about the more modern case. I heard that the children were involved with time experiments, alternate earth portal technology and general psych warfare; mind control at a distance, remote viewing. I also heard that many were groomed for top positions in the black ops.

    What I saw from the woman I met was, for her, about them trying to use her to access information about people, places, things. Also, to work in groups with others like her to try to bring events about. However, many people with gifts like this have an innate sense of right and wrong. Not all of them do, may I just add. Not that anything is in itself 'bad' it's about context, but what if they were being asked to do things that an individual knew was not right.. then can you imagine the conflicts that they would have had to go through? I mean you could pretend to not do something but if you did maybe they no longer need you and would do away with you.

    Something else interesting I saw when I was in my underjourneying was a project called 'moon women' - it was a breeding program being carried out in an underground environment with a number of aims. First of all to see how humans cope with being born and bred underground and also, general genetic engineering things - their aim was to make women as beautiful as possible. And so there is an entire world under there possibly.. where very rich and lucky men can go - and play actual gods or whatever they have put into place in this world as the logos of choice. Because from scratch the people in this place only know exactly what has been given to them as their reality. So it would be a psyche experiment as well. I cannot say if this is a real thing or not, however, it doesn't sound too far off the board even in a logical extension. For example - we are pretty certain they have huge underground living spaces. So as IF they wouldn't check out how humans live and survive under there before they have to use them for real. And if given the opportunity to breed people there as IF they wouldn't make them as beautiful as possible. Maybe even better suited to the underground world than 'earth' women.
    This idea is very reasonable and fits with the type of minds that are often found at the organizational level of these kinds f programs. The abilty to shape reality and psychology of an isolated population would allow men to create a world where they are visiting gods, or demons, and the population is conditioned to treat them as divine beings, of a sort..

    This gets a big WOW from me.

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    Oh for sure there are top secret underground facilities that people are spending their entire life times in no doubt about it shade. Phil Schneider was talking about this stuff back in 94', and was then killed for it. Here is an interview with Swerdlow where he talks about Montauk at length. Montauk and the alien connection
    I just watched the Schneider presentation here, and it was very informative, thanks for posting it. I will watch the Montauk one next.

    but there was an odd bit in part 5 when he says that Janet Reno should not be allowed to live because she "is a confirmed lesbian", "cheated her way through law school", and sexually abuses and murders kids... wtf? Honestly I enjoyed his talk but what the hell has being a lesbian got to do with the price of f*cking fish? [apart from the obvious]. Crime against humanity is it? :D

    Looks like his book never got published - that would have been a good read.
    I found this article on him as well http://www.ufodigest.com/schneider.html
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    wtf? Honestly I enjoyed his talk but what the hell has being a lesbian got to do with the price of f*cking fish? [apart from the obvious]. Crime against humanity is it? :D
    That was funny. Good one.

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    Oh for sure there are top secret underground facilities that people are spending their entire life times in no doubt about it shade. Phil Schneider was talking about this stuff back in 94', and was then killed for it. Here is an interview with Swerdlow where he talks about Montauk at length. Montauk and the alien connection
    I just watched the Schneider presentation here, and it was very informative, thanks for posting it. I will watch the Montauk one next.

    but there was an odd bit in part 5 when he says that Janet Reno should not be allowed to live because she "is a confirmed lesbian", "cheated her way through law school", and sexually abuses and murders kids... wtf? Honestly I enjoyed his talk but what the hell has being a lesbian got to do with the price of f*cking fish? [apart from the obvious]. Crime against humanity is it? :D

    Looks like his book never got published - that would have been a good read.
    I found this article on him as well http://www.ufodigest.com/schneider.html
    I don't know what to tell you. Some of these folks have certain religious hang ups that can obviously taint the material. Bill Cooper's stuff was like that, and to an extent Alex Jones as well. But hey, some folks need some kind of anchor in this storm of chaos when everything you have been taking for granted starts becoming less and less available, extreme paradigm shifts can be painfull.
    Even though Schnieder obviously had his hang ups, I personally think the guy had incredible information to offer.
    But hey, what Janet Reno does behind closed doors in mile deep underground bunkers is her business.

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    I don't know what to tell you. Some of these folks have certain religious hang ups that can obviously taint the material. Bill Cooper's stuff was like that, and to an extent Alex Jones as well. But hey, some folks need some kind of anchor in this storm of chaos when everything you have been taking for granted starts becoming less and less available, extreme paradigm shifts can be painfull.
    Even though Schnieder obviously had his hang ups, I personally think the guy had incredible information to offer.
    But hey, what Janet Reno does behind closed doors in mile deep underground bunkers is her business.
    yeah, I enjoyed his material. I had never heard of the Dulce alien thing before. Fascinating what he said about it. I would love to know more about that. Do you have any other recommendations for documentaries or interviews which discuss it or anything close to it?

    I listened to the Montauk material but had to turn it off after 15 minutes - not my style at all. Swerdlow was middle grounding it, in the way that his metaphysics were just out of date - his spiritual take was well... I really don't know how to say it but 'unevolved'... immature.. simple... full of rote taught superstitions and simplifications so over simplified that they become incorrect. I don't think functioning and teaching from such an enevolved metaphysics is doing anyone any favours. But people will like what they like. He says things as people want to hear them.

    And this Dulce thing.. so some section of the military knew they were there and didn't tell the the rest of them or something? And they just happened to drill right into their lair? what? why is there not a movie on this? And they stank? cool.

    Something though that didn't sit right with me was about Thor and about the contamination threats. The wearing of a suit.. as if that's going to solve the problem when you live and work on an alien planet for well, decades. You just would not be able to maintain protection, not really. Especially in the 1930's when it began.
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    I'm on my phone so i can't give you links right now. But if you go to my profile and hit started threads you will find one titled s4 informers with wendelle Stevens. It's about area51 it's maybe the best documentary of its kind in my opinion.

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    The story reminds me a lot of Duncan O Finaoin, strangely I am struggling to get any results on google. He talks about the child soldier program and how he and other children had abilities which were used for wrong. I guess you probably know about him but just in case you dont. Very interesting experience.

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    I don't know what to tell you. Some of these folks have certain religious hang ups that can obviously taint the material. Bill Cooper's stuff was like that, and to an extent Alex Jones as well. But hey, some folks need some kind of anchor in this storm of chaos when everything you have been taking for granted starts becoming less and less available, extreme paradigm shifts can be painfull.
    Even though Schnieder obviously had his hang ups, I personally think the guy had incredible information to offer.
    But hey, what Janet Reno does behind closed doors in mile deep underground bunkers is her business.
    yeah, I enjoyed his material. I had never heard of the Dulce alien thing before. Fascinating what he said about it. I would love to know more about that. Do you have any other recommendations for documentaries or interviews which discuss it or anything close to it?

    I listened to the Montauk material but had to turn it off after 15 minutes - not my style at all. Swerdlow was middle grounding it, in the way that his metaphysics were just out of date - his spiritual take was well... I really don't know how to say it but 'unevolved'... immature.. simple... full of rote taught superstitions and simplifications so over simplified that they become incorrect. I don't think functioning and teaching from such an enevolved metaphysics is doing anyone any favours. But people will like what they like. He says things as people want to hear them.

    And this Dulce thing.. so some section of the military knew they were there and didn't tell the the rest of them or something? And they just happened to drill right into their lair? what? why is there not a movie on this? And they stank? cool.

    Something though that didn't sit right with me was about Thor and about the contamination threats. The wearing of a suit.. as if that's going to solve the problem when you live and work on an alien planet for well, decades. You just would not be able to maintain protection, not really. Especially in the 1930's when it began.
    I wouldn't get to hung up on any one particular piece of data really. You can't take too much of this stuff at face value. It's all about quantity of informtion, and being able to correlate the different pieces so as to come up with a tapestry made up of lots of corresponding pieces.
    That's why I like the S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean documentary so much. It is a compilation of a lot of different pieces of information that weave together and create a plausible and believable picture in my opinion.

    As for the DULCE base. That is a rabbit hole in and of itself. There is almost no doubt that the DULCE base exists, same as area 51, but believing which story about it carries the truth is the difficult part. There is a story about a security guard that escaped DULCE and told tales of reptillians and animal/human hybridization programs. The claims can be really outlandish, but, sometimes where there is smoke there is fire. Any study of DULCE has to start with THE DULCE BOOK BY BRANTON
    I'm personally very fond of the Anthony Sanchez take on DULCE as reported to him by his whistle blower one Colonial X. You have to love the guy's named X,

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    I wouldn't get to hung up on any one particular piece of data really. You can't take too much of this stuff at face value. It's all about quantity of informtion, and being able to correlate the different pieces so as to come up with a tapestry made up of lots of corresponding pieces.
    That's why I like the S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean documentary so much. It is a compilation of a lot of different pieces of information that weave together and create a plausible and believable picture in my opinion.
    man - this documentary [above in quote] is six (6) hours long! (3 two hour parts) I mean it's interesting and all, but 6 hours!? I got through about 1 and a half before wandering off. A bit of editing would not have gone astray. I don't have enough internet left to even watch the whole 6 hours... : |
    I watched this one today that I found on the Daniel thread: It was good. What a strange story, about the engines not stopping. And the rest.

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