DeDukshyn's thoughts on Dec 21st 2012 - a story

[Cristian]

So I’ve read DeDucksing ‘s fictional story …

Of course is fiction, after all the people we look up to, already said there is nothing special about this December.
David Icke repeatedly spoke about 2012 being “another Y2K”. And I respect this man, his work and his courage.
And Bill, and Inelia and many others said this shift , this change, will take generations. And I always agreed with that. And I still believe “mass ascension” is an ego driven idea .

But there is something weird going on. In my dreams I often create ocean like landscapes , with beautiful beaches , and birds flying and everything. Whatever I think turns into reality. And I’ve done some crazy things and I’ve created weird stuff sometimes. I created dreams within dreams, I sometimes melted my being into whatever reality I created. So I was the wind, the rocks, the sand, and the ocean, all at the same time.

Everything starts with an idea.

And maybe this will be the “ December Paradox”. The paradox of creating the very thing we expect to happen. This focus about an idea , focus from the past ,from the present, and from the future.

Everything is possible.

There are events and things more probable to occur and there are wild and crazy events that are less probable, yet not impossible.
So I say, let’s go crazy about this December stuff, expect nothing but wish for everything.

Let’s dream another dream for humanity.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Chris82 (here)
So I’ve read DeDucksing ‘s fictional story …

Of course is fiction, after all the people we look up to, already said there is nothing special about this December.
David Icke repeatedly spoke about 2012 being “another Y2K”. And I respect this man, his work and his courage.
And Bill, and Inelia and many others said this shift , this change, will take generations. And I always agreed with that. And I still believe “mass ascension” is an ego driven idea .

But there is something weird going on. In my dreams I often create ocean like landscapes , with beautiful beaches , and birds flying and everything. Whatever I think turns into reality. And I’ve done some crazy things and I’ve created weird stuff sometimes. I created dreams within dreams, I sometimes melted my being into whatever reality I created. So I was the wind, the rocks, the sand, and the ocean, all at the same time.

Everything starts with an idea.

And maybe this will be the “ December Paradox”. The paradox of creating the very thing we expect to happen. This focus about an idea , focus from the past ,from the present, and from the future.

Everything is possible.

There are events and things more probable to occur and there are wild and crazy events that are less probable, yet not impossible.
So I say, let’s go crazy about this December stuff, expect nothing but wish for everything.

Let’s dream another dream for humanity.

I agree! No harm in trying!

And just be clear that which I speak of is not really an "ascension" event from what I understand it, but rather a major turning point from a connection event that will leave many with a new found direction, confidence and motivation about how to proceed to create the new world. It is the Elite's programming that automatically cause a mind to shift to the "New Age Ascension versionS" and thus the subsequent thoughts on that. Why would they have this be done?

[Kiforall]

Hi DeDucshyn, Your research has probably taken you full circle to what you knew as a child.

You have already acknowledged my Son is like a younger version of you, or are you an older version of him.

If I was to tell you the moon will stay here with Earth but the reason you don't like the moon is that where you came from didn't have a moon could you take yourself back before outer influences affected your memories?

He remembers a place where there was no moon, a place where heaven is a place that exists and you don't die to get there.

How big were the ancient civilizations?

How many remains have been found?

Where are the rest of the bodies?

Who knows what energy the galaxies alignment will cause and what effect this will have on frequency, dimensions etc.

These children seem to know what is coming and if other people out there are closely bonded to them I think they will also know that we are about to understand a knowledge that should never have been allowed to leave us, I don't think it has truly.

When you read or hear something that jitters the heart it is true.
This can be good or bad news, false education has never been able to remove this intuition, this intuition is alive in the DNA of the pure at heart.

I feel that people who expect the whole of humanity will experience something Dec 21st are expecting too much, another 20 odd thousand years may be necessary for some. But the new children are helping quite a few to get on board for this cycle. It's like harvesting stars.
Only pick the ones that are ripened or nearly ripe. The other's will be left to mature.

When I ask the right questions I seem to get an answer I already knew.

Zoe x

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Flash (here)
... No special time needed, just special preparation, counted in years or lifegtimes.
...

Flash, Yes, I agree!

This is exactly what I (more accurately) understand the "non-time expanse" to be .. an opening in Time to accept that special preparation. As I responded to Rahkyt, I understand the non-time expanse to allow an experience of from moments of an experience, up to successions of lives (whatever is required to allow the learning needed to be compatible with the Christ consciousness)), to allow this understanding, this preparation to come to individuals within that instant of non-time -- not in actual many lives on our current timeline (although natural evolution of the mind works in this way for certain as well, many lives are needed on the current timeline, at the current pace).

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Kiforall (here)
Hi DeDucshyn, Your research has probably taken you full circle to what you knew as a child.

A lot of the way yes, but you have to understand that as a child I had no reference points -- none whatsoever. To me and the people around me I just had the greatest imagination anyone had ever seen, and I was like "Ya! I have a great imagination!". So much of that which I had as a child was lost as fantasy and not retained. I was in my late 20's already before I recalled that I used to astral travel as child -- I had to learn that astral travel was real first, before I could even have that memory, because as one grows up, they are taught that if you do not have words for something -- it is not real.

Posted by Kiforall (here)
If I was to tell you the moon will stay here with Earth but the reason you don't like the moon is that where you came from didn't have a moon could you take yourself back before outer influences affected your memories?

He remembers a place where there was no moon, a place where heaven is a place that exists and you don't die to get there.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have dislike for the moon. Although it's not unreasonable that it has been "put" there considering all the moon / earth anomalies that should never have been, yet they are ... What you describe is not unfamiliar to me, yet at the same time I'm not a practiced psychic / seer -- especially these days, however I will try this exercise on my next major meditation

Posted by Kiforall (here)
How big were the ancient civilizations?

How many remains have been found?

Where are the rest of the bodies?

I assume these questions are a part of the above exercise?

Posted by Kiforall (here)
Who knows what energy the galaxies alignment will cause and what effect this will have on frequency, dimensions etc.

These children seem to know what is coming and if other people out there are closely bonded to them I think they will also know that we are about to understand a knowledge that should never have been allowed to leave us, I don't think it has truly.

When you read or hear something that jitters the heart it is true.
This can be good or bad news, false education has never been able to remove this intuition, this intuition is alive in the DNA of the pure at heart.

I agree, I now have a fully developed "resonance meter" -- it's not really a BS meter, but when lost truths are remembered, it goes off. I have no doubt that almost all humanity has some at least subconscious inkling that something has been "lost" -- we all feel it, and that is why we all search.

Posted by Kiforall (here)
I feel that people who expect the whole of humanity will experience something Dec 21st are expecting too much, another 20 odd thousand years may be necessary for some. But the new children are helping quite a few to get on board for this cycle. It's like harvesting stars.
Only pick the ones that are ripened or nearly ripe. The other's will be left to mature.

When I ask the right questions I seem to get an answer I already knew.
Zoe x

I agree with you here -- My personal opinion is that if this event is to occur, perhaps only a fraction on Earth will be participating, and of those, many will have no recollection of it, but will be dramatically changed in some ways moving forward - an expanded outlook on life and reality that will be needed to help facilitate the building of the new world. Perhaps less still will fully remember it, and the rest of the population will likely say it never happened ...

[Kiforall]

How on Earth do you do the quotes then writing etc etc.
Still a newb on Avalon me thinks.

I think I'm trying to put myself into a position of understanding where a child would be if they were unable to discuss their imagination with an adult.

I have been lucky with my kids because they trust me not to rip their ideas to pieces.

Apparantly that's why my Son chose me and thank god he could tell me what he knows.

I don't believe his knowledge is just imagination in a made up sense and I wonder where children that carry a higher knowledge would be now if they were listened to as children.

I'm not saying all parents have an inability to listen but I can imagine there are a lot of children out there who would be told not to be so silly or told that they have a wild imagination so many times that the children stop expressing themselves, which will eventually lead to them closing the ties they have with a higher conciousness.

I've just asked my Son about getting you back to your childhood knowledge and he says to look at photographs of yourself as a child and sleep on it (not the photo lol). He doesn't believe deep meditation is necessary.
Things will come back as you are ready to know the details.

The questions regarding ancient civilisations are more a point of, there seems to be no answers.

Does this mean they went somewhere??

Zoe x

[Grumpy Cat]

I always had an instinct that society didn't feel 'right' to me since I was about 13, and, 9 years later I turned out to be right. There are a great deal of unknown forces at work in the world now, I realise that. There's a reason I've been fascinated by the Romans and secret societies, to the point that I'd play countless PC games regarding them, as well as that of science fiction such as Star Trek.

I also believe (know?) that I was a Roman soldier in a past life and it took me many, many lifetimes to realise the truth of the world as it is. The Empire still stands tall...

I wonder if they have anything to do with the 21st...

The song Luna by Alessandro Safina also holds incredible resonance with me, for some reason.

[Spiral]

Posted by Kiforall (here)
How on Earth do you do the quotes then writing etc etc.
Still a newb on Avalon me thinks.

I think I'm trying to put myself into a position of understanding where a child would be if they were unable to discuss their imagination with an adult.

I have been lucky with my kids because they trust me not to rip their ideas to pieces.

Apparantly that's why my Son chose me and thank god he could tell me what he knows.

I don't believe his knowledge is just imagination in a made up sense and I wonder where children that carry a higher knowledge would be now if they were listened to as children.

I'm not saying all parents have an inability to listen but I can imagine there are a lot of children out there who would be told not to be so silly or told that they have a wild imagination so many times that the children stop expressing themselves, which will eventually lead to them closing the ties they have with a higher conciousness.

I've just asked my Son about getting you back to your childhood knowledge and he says to look at photographs of yourself as a child and sleep on it (not the photo lol). He doesn't believe deep meditation is necessary.
Things will come back as you are ready to know the details.

The questions regarding ancient civilisations are more a point of, there seems to be no answers.

Does this mean they went somewhere??

Zoe x

Hi, your last two posts reminded me of conversations I had with my youngest brother when he was still a child, he had vivid memories of his previous life in the Andromeda system, this was nearly 20 years ago, so he didnt get it off the internet.

He would tell me all sorts of stuff, & we would share lucid dreams, something I have never experienced before or since, I now think he was one of the "Star kids" that have incarnated here to try & turn things around, unfortunately he has forgotten all this now & is very ill.

(at the bottom right of each post you will see a button marked "reply with quote" , press this, and that post will appear in the "quick reply" box you write in, you can trim the quote down if you so desire, but don't delete the quote words at the beginning & end.)


DeDucksong, thats a very interesting piece you opened with.

Just over a year ago I was of the opinion that all of this 2012, love & light & new age stuff was utterly delusional hogwash.

Then I had my leg broken whilst standing still in my bathroom alone, and everything rapidly started to change.

Whilst I very much doubt we are all going to get 7 foot tall crystal bodies, we are on the threshold of a very special & very rare opportunity, and its open to all who are open to it.

I don't think we can even imagine the ramifications of the possibilities that will be ours for the taking.

There may be something in this;

“After this, the man brought me back around to the east gateway. Suddenly, the glory of the God of Israel appeared from the east. The sound of his coming was like the roar of rushing waters, and the whole landscape shone with His glory. This vision was just like the others I had seen, first by the Kebar River and then when he came to destroy Jerusalem. I fell face down on the ground. And the glory of the Lord came into the Temple through the east gateway.” Ezekiel 43:1-4

The "Temple & the Eastern gate" usually attributed to the return of Christ is obviously an allegory & could well allude to this upcoming event.

[Kiforall]

Posted by thorshammer (here)
I always had an instinct that society didn't feel 'right' to me since I was about 13, and, 9 years later I turned out to be right. There are a great deal of unknown forces at work in the world now, I realise that. There's a reason I've been fascinated by the Romans and secret societies, to the point that I'd play countless PC games regarding them, as well as that of science fiction such as Star Trek.

I also believe (know?) that I was a Roman soldier in a past life and it took me many, many lifetimes to realise the truth of the world as it is. The Empire still stands tall...

I wonder if they have anything to do with the 21st...

The song Luna by Alessandro Safina also holds incredible resonance with me, for some reason.

And I bet it feels good to share the belief of being a Roman soldier with others who aren't going to laugh.

I was drawn into researching the ancient monuments found in China and ended up finding a Youtube clip about some Mummies that had been discovered. I'm sure I lived there, possibly even one of the bodies that was revealed. It just felt too close to the bone.

The thing is if reincarnation is possible which to some seems far out how much far out is possible?

Dec 21st/22nd 2012 could be far,far out

Zoe x

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Kiforall (here)
I've just asked my Son about getting you back to your childhood knowledge and he says to look at photographs of yourself as a child and sleep on it (not the photo lol). He doesn't believe deep meditation is necessary.
Things will come back as you are ready to know the details.

The questions regarding ancient civilisations are more a point of, there seems to be no answers.

Does this mean they went somewhere??

Zoe x

The fancy quoting takes a wee bit of tag editing, but it really isn't that hard. I wouldn't worry about it.

Tell your son thanks, I will try his suggestion!

Actually I think there are some answers to those questions ... let me try with some "imagination" ;-)

I skipped over the details about intervention, as I didn't want to distract from the continuity that my story needed to be effective. I'll throw out some ideas here, but I don't have all the answers or all the proof, for considerations:

The "Angels" we stationed to assist with the awakening we can call aliens. There is no difference except one is an ethereal viewpoint and one is a physical one. If we need to dualize it, fallen Angels - STS ETs and un-fallen Angels = STO ETs. Likely beings of all sorts here.

When the advanced primates were deemed ready, I believe the intention was to modulate their DNA to assist with the awakening process, or preparation for the Christ consciousness. I believe this was done. I also believe a lot of conflict began after this process, our Sumerian texts tell the tale for those that have read the interpretations. At this point the Earth is inhabited by advanced humans and our brethren "the Angels" alike. All in physical form. This is the time where our memories of Atlantis Mu and Lemuria are from.

Due to an over association with the physical realm, an over-importance of value placed on the illusion of the physical realm started to occur, we all began to get amnesia, we became distracted from the project as the matter fields where apparently a "hell" of a lot of "fun" -- too much perhaps .

As this over association with physical continued, egos became more powerful, and beings became motivated by fear. and as mentioned, some became angry at the whole Project, the Christ consciousness being, and especially humans, as it was our fault they had caught this disease (so they determined). At this point in time the fallen ones chose to hijack the project. Many great wars ensued and the earth was eventually "cleansed" (likely by the fallen Angels as a war tactic) in a great deluge. Most humans were destroyed and the ones allowed to proliferate, had already been genetically altered -- reduced. Human population on earth was reduced to several thousand -- this helped ensure that the Fallen ones would be able to keep control over humanity in the future.

Keep in mind, that before the great deluge, that atmosphere of earth was very different, it was protected. This allowed lifespans to be measured in thousands of years - physical death is also a side effect of carrying an ego with your mind through your whole life - perhaps these two phenomenon are tied together (perhaps the change in the atmosphere had a further effect of separation on consciousness). Just this longevity alone allowed vast learning and the building of some great civilizations - there didn't need to be a lot of beings, and thus not a lot of deaths / bodies.

Our "history" starts not long after. As humans began to rebuild their civilizations, they tried their best to carry over as much info from the old world as they could, hence we have our ancients putting vast amounts of resources into trying to preserve these "Myths", as we call them.


After the great deluge, an unfallen one moved to the Americas and worked with the humanity that had survived the deluge (the deluge is a major part of native American myths and ancient history - it's not a "Christian" thing). Their legend goes that their civilization was started by a "God" who climbed out of a box from the ocean and built great cities of stone while he slept from a dream state (the original Macchu Piccu). He taught them astrology and other ancient cycle keeping, astronomy, agriculture, art etc. There are many great and many still hidden cities in the Americas from this time.

A man who climbed from a box from the ocean with the purpose to re-start a great civilization? ... Noah? or perhaps one of many "Noah's?" Here's some evidence this is true: Lake Titticaca - the worlds highest navigable lake, is situated on top of a mountain in Peru. This lake was once filled with seawater. There are freshwater "versions" of plants and animals in that lake that are only known in salt waters. All indications point to the fact that lake was filled with seawater somehow once, and due to its extremely low turnover rate (over 1000 years), some of the sea life it contained was able to adapt and become freshwater variants, where none are known anywhere else on earth. This is verifiable as well.


If one reads the interpretations of the ancient American texts over a period of several thousand years, an interesting tale is weaved. It tells of the above creation myth, but it also tells of another "God" who arrived afterwards. A fallen one. Who sought to destroy all the previous work that had been done. Apparently this conflict lasted quit some time as well, as it appeared that wherever this unfallen one went, his nemesis followed and changed the course of the civilizations to evil "secular" ones -- establishing satanic rituals, sacrifices, cannibalism, etc. This is all verifiable BTW .. the book "Gods of the New Millennium" by Alan Alford takes a historical look at these cultures and the translations of their ancients texts and myths - this is the story they tell ...

Did one of these cultures make craft and leave? possibly ... did they ascend? Not sure what that even means in this context ... But it certainly appears some of these cultures vanished very suddenly. Leaving no bodies.



So before the great deluge -- wasn't a whole lot of humans at that time .. 144,000 were initially "made" I think? And due to the longevity of that time, there was little need to be procreating or making more. The deluge / Atlantis disaster wiped out that which was there -- perhaps the key is under the ice in Antarctica. It wasn't covered in ice back then.

South America is full of lost great ancient civilizations and more are being discovered. But to find anything that occurred before the deluge would be difficult.

Just a thought I might be wrong But try to prove me wrong before saying anything ... you might be surprised at what you find along the way ..

Does anyone want to ask how this "deluge" may have occurred? Perhaps when the moon was moved into place? Or what about the icecap of Antarctica melting from the center, creating a giant wall of ice around the continent, until the wall could hold no more, creating a giant global tsunami? This last one is a current scientific theory that is being studied.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by thorshammer (here)
I always had an instinct that society didn't feel 'right' to me since I was about 13, and, 9 years later I turned out to be right. There are a great deal of unknown forces at work in the world now, I realise that. There's a reason I've been fascinated by the Romans and secret societies, to the point that I'd play countless PC games regarding them, as well as that of science fiction such as Star Trek.

I also believe (know?) that I was a Roman soldier in a past life and it took me many, many lifetimes to realise the truth of the world as it is. The Empire still stands tall...

I wonder if they have anything to do with the 21st...

The song Luna by Alessandro Safina also holds incredible resonance with me, for some reason.

synchronifically, (I made it up just now ) I made a post in the Here and Now thread about how the "Roman Gov't" (or who-ever was behind it) is still in power. There is an old Star Trek episode that makes you really consider this actually -- it seemed to me to be a message from Gene Roddenberry to the masses - he wrote that particular episode himself. I'll post the link here if I can find, but don't hold your breath

[Kiforall]

Posted by Spiral (here)

Posted by Kiforall (here)
How on Earth do you do the quotes then writing etc etc.
Still a newb on Avalon me thinks.

I think I'm trying to put myself into a position of understanding where a child would be if they were unable to discuss their imagination with an adult.

I have been lucky with my kids because they trust me not to rip their ideas to pieces.

Apparantly that's why my Son chose me and thank god he could tell me what he knows.

I don't believe his knowledge is just imagination in a made up sense and I wonder where children that carry a higher knowledge would be now if they were listened to as children.

I'm not saying all parents have an inability to listen but I can imagine there are a lot of children out there who would be told not to be so silly or told that they have a wild imagination so many times that the children stop expressing themselves, which will eventually lead to them closing the ties they have with a higher conciousness.

I've just asked my Son about getting you back to your childhood knowledge and he says to look at photographs of yourself as a child and sleep on it (not the photo lol). He doesn't believe deep meditation is necessary.
Things will come back as you are ready to know the details.

The questions regarding ancient civilisations are more a point of, there seems to be no answers.

Does this mean they went somewhere??

Zoe x

Hi, your last two posts reminded me of conversations I had with my youngest brother when he was still a child, he had vivid memories of his previous life in the Andromeda system, this was nearly 20 years ago, so he didnt get it off the internet.

He would tell me all sorts of stuff, & we would share lucid dreams, something I have never experienced before or since, I now think he was one of the "Star kids" that have incarnated here to try & turn things around, unfortunately he has forgotten all this now & is very ill.

(at the bottom right of each post you will see a button marked "reply with quote" , press this, and that post will appear in the "quick reply" box you write in, you can trim the quote down if you so desire, but don't delete the quote words at the beginning & end.)


DeDucksong, thats a very interesting piece you opened with.

Just over a year ago I was of the opinion that all of this 2012, love & light & new age stuff was utterly delusional hogwash.

Then I had my leg broken whilst standing still in my bathroom alone, and everything rapidly started to change.

Whilst I very much doubt we are all going to get 7 foot tall crystal bodies, we are on the threshold of a very special & very rare opportunity, and its open to all who are open to it.

I don't think we can even imagine the ramifications of the possibilities that will be ours for the taking.

There may be something in this;

“After this, the man brought me back around to the east gateway. Suddenly, the glory of the God of Israel appeared from the east. The sound of his coming was like the roar of rushing waters, and the whole landscape shone with His glory. This vision was just like the others I had seen, first by the Kebar River and then when he came to destroy Jerusalem. I fell face down on the ground. And the glory of the Lord came into the Temple through the east gateway.” Ezekiel 43:1-4

The "Temple & the Eastern gate" usually attributed to the return of Christ is obviously an allegory & could well allude to this upcoming event.

DEDUCKSONG Priceless.

Dear Spiral, what a shame about your brother, my heart goes out to you both.

My Son began opening up to me a couple of months before my daughter who is 18mths older and I'm sure it has taken her longer because she seems to attract negative energy easily and is able to use it, just like me. It's then very difficult to get out of the habit.
I must admit I checked all the history on her phone when she started telling me stuff about Mayan pyramids, crystal pyramids in Atlantis etc. because I thought she was just feeling a bit of sibling rivalry but there was nothing, it is coming from her.

It's a pity I don't have longer than a few weeks, I could write a book and make thousands. LOL

Zoe x

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Kiforall (here)

It's a pity I don't have longer than a few weeks, I could write a book and make thousands. LOL

Zoe x

?????!
Are you succeeding your body??

[DeDukshyn]

Simon Parks -- of apparent alien expertise had a few comments I'd like to share that seems to me to tie in just a little bit to my initial story and this "event" that seems may be probable ... I was a bit surprised about these comments and how his story may actually all tie in ...

Simon wrote here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post587365

Hi, Its a pleasure to chat with you,
Your brave, and courageous, dont be angry............

In around 4 weeks time Humanity will get a little " lift" when each person will see things very differently, however this effect will not last long and only some of the population will build on this experience, from this moment on the cat is out the bag so to speak. Critical mass refers to the number of Humans who start to question the systems and methods that are in to controll the populace.

And here ... https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post587857

Yes,
The peak will be 12.00 noon on the 22nd December of this year, (or there abouts). But dont fall for all the " New age" stuff about portals opening and everyone running around kissing each other. the trurth is every human will for a very short time period have the controlling materix lifted off them - a pen and paper, hmmm, a good idea that way you can write down your ideas - 75% of the humans will forget what happened to them, the remaining 25% will joing together and develope.
I hope this helps,
Simon.

And most interestingly here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post587860

Hi Carol,
I will look into this, many thanks.
Please - I wish all of you to know - the CERN ( hadron Collider) was built for one purpose and one purpose only, its all about time.
This device was built to prevent Humans from "assending". To be exact to stop the start of the process.
...
all my secreats coming out now, sigh

(bold emphasis mine)

[DeDukshyn]

I also found this in the texts from Ken Carey's second book I think -- written in 1978

It has been said in the prophecies that the time of these
things would not be until "the lightening that lighteth
one particle that was bound under heaven, shineth forth
and lighteth another part under heaven," and that when
this took place, the coming was near at hand. Those who
have ears, let them hear. Those who have eyes, let them
read the word of God illuminated by the lightening that
was once bound in one particle of matter. Let them know
that the time is here.

I'm not sure if means anything ... But I'm finding all of this quite fascinating ...

[Kiforall]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Simon Parks -- of apparent alien expertise had a few comments I'd like to share that seems to me to tie in just a little bit to my initial story and this "event" that seems may be probable ... I was a bit surprised about these comments and how his story may actually all tie in ...

Simon wrote here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post587365

Hi, Its a pleasure to chat with you,
Your brave, and courageous, dont be angry............

In around 4 weeks time Humanity will get a little " lift" when each person will see things very differently, however this effect will not last long and only some of the population will build on this experience, from this moment on the cat is out the bag so to speak. Critical mass refers to the number of Humans who start to question the systems and methods that are in to controll the populace.

And here ... https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post587857

Yes,
The peak will be 12.00 noon on the 22nd December of this year, (or there abouts). But dont fall for all the " New age" stuff about portals opening and everyone running around kissing each other. the trurth is every human will for a very short time period have the controlling materix lifted off them - a pen and paper, hmmm, a good idea that way you can write down your ideas - 75% of the humans will forget what happened to them, the remaining 25% will joing together and develope.
I hope this helps,
Simon.

And most interestingly here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post587860

Hi Carol,
I will look into this, many thanks.
Please - I wish all of you to know - the CERN ( hadron Collider) was built for one purpose and one purpose only, its all about time.
This device was built to prevent Humans from "assending". To be exact to stop the start of the process.
Do you think that " they" would have spent the huge amount it cost to build it to discover dark energy, when they already have it, oh they do have it, Near where I live is a deep mine shaft ( go google) Boulby mine - the US government ownes the lower shafts of this British Mine ! and its leaked out that they have dark energy down there - its even in official news ( go google) Boulby mine dark matter - so they dont need the CERN for that - another rteason I live where I live.
all my secreats coming out now, sigh

It's nice to see so many of us are singing from the same hymn sheet

Zoe x

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I also found this in the texts from Ken Carey's second book I think -- written in 1978

It has been said in the prophecies that the time of these
things would not be until "the lightening that lighteth
one particle that was bound under heaven, shineth forth
and lighteth another part under heaven," and that when
this took place, the coming was near at hand. Those who
have ears, let them hear. Those who have eyes, let them
read the word of God illuminated by the lightening that
was once bound in one particle of matter. Let them know
that the time is here.

I'm not sure if means anything ... But I'm finding all of this quite fascinating ...

I should have made this more clear ... I think what is in this quoted text is possibly referencing the use of the CERN LHC ... Doesn't it? Also another very interesting tidbit is that the HLC is set to go offline after the end of 2012 .... I guess not quite as useful after that? ... Or they know it will need repairs after deflecting the "event" like what happened in 2008? (just a rambling thought that may not mean anything ...) - I don't know this, but things are really starting to add up in fascination for me .. I hope there are others who can relate ...

[Kiforall]

It's all about human potential and even the PTW underestimated it.

They believe they can hide underground whilst whatever huge disaster hits Earth on Dec 21st 2012.

Their first mistake was to be fearful (they had nothing to fear from a disaster the only disaster that was going to happen was society)

Lose Lose situation for the Elite.

Their second mistake was to think that they could wage war on the survivors of the disaster.

There will be no significant disaster. Maybe a bit of rock and roll but if you're dancing you'll not notice it.
Unless that is, you are buried deep underground

So in that respect, Lose Lose. The survivors will be plenty.
Infrastructure underground-who knows?
Will the drones still be controlable?
Will Harp still cause manipulation of our weather systems

Who cares, they've seen what humanity is capable of. They've acknowledged that enough of us understand the energy at our fingertips

The third mistake and here in lies the question. Will they be forgiven?

And if not could we at least try to save some innocent children involved in this sick pride?

Zoe x

[Carmen]

Um, D, I think the truth has always been in Ken Carey's books, it's just that our consciousness awareness expands, deepens, realises at an ever expanding evolutionary rate. So, it seems as though the message changes but to me it is us who are changing, at an ever increasing speed.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Carmen (here)
Um, D, I think the truth has always been in Ken Carey's books, it's just that our consciousness awareness expands, deepens, realises at an ever expanding evolutionary rate. So, it seems as though the message changes but to me it is us who are changing, at an ever increasing speed.

That certainly makes sense considering that in the text it is said that (possibly paraphrased, doing my best) "even these words are a mere conceptual tool that too will eventually need to be cast aside", indicating exactly that is exactly what you speak. I meant that as well, but the metaphor I used I guess didn't relay that