Page 1 of 3 1 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 51

Thread: A New Insight

  1. Link to Post #1
    Great Britain Avalon Member Kiforall's Avatar
    Join Date
    23rd September 2012
    Location
    Somewhere I cherish
    Age
    52
    Posts
    585
    Thanks
    2,600
    Thanked 2,700 times in 527 posts

    Default A New Insight

    Would anyone forgive the Elite before they disappear down their rabbit holes?

    Can we prevent an underworld disaster?

    Does anyone even want to begin to think how horrendous life in these military, survival bases for the chosen millions, is going to be?

    Has humanity still got enough decency left after thousands of years of physical and mental torture to show compassion to the deluded descendants of evil?

    Just wondering...........................................................................?
    Experiencing pain and suffering is the gateway to joy and happiness.
    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

  2. The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to Kiforall For This Post:

    applecrusher1992 (30th November 2012), Cidersomerset (1st December 2012), David Trd1 (1st December 2012), donk (30th November 2012), jjjones (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), Reirrac (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), RUSirius (29th November 2012), Samsara (29th November 2012), skamandar (2nd December 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), Star Tsar (29th November 2012)

  3. Link to Post #2
    Brazil Avalon Retired Member
    Join Date
    28th June 2011
    Location
    Belo Horizonte, Brazil
    Age
    43
    Posts
    3,857
    Thanks
    18,436
    Thanked 24,135 times in 3,536 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Hey mate,

    No way. A word is a contract and I´ll not make any deal with people I despise.

    I´m not Jesus, you know. I wont forgive people who may very well murder me one of these days.

    Besides, none of them asked for my forgiveness.

    Raf.

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to RMorgan For This Post:

    markpierre (29th November 2012), RUSirius (29th November 2012), Tarka the Duck (29th November 2012)

  5. Link to Post #3
    Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    7th December 2010
    Location
    Blaine, Tennessee
    Age
    60
    Posts
    3,386
    Thanks
    21,152
    Thanked 26,963 times in 3,187 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by Kiforall (here)
    Has humanity still got enough decency left after thousands of years of physical and mental torture to show compassion to the deluded descendants of evil?
    Of course...

    Name:  Yin-Yang.jpg
Views: 323
Size:  40.8 KB

    The main question is, can we forgive ourselves? That's the real kicker.

  6. Link to Post #4
    Great Britain Avalon Member Kiforall's Avatar
    Join Date
    23rd September 2012
    Location
    Somewhere I cherish
    Age
    52
    Posts
    585
    Thanks
    2,600
    Thanked 2,700 times in 527 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    Quote Posted by Kiforall (here)
    Has humanity still got enough decency left after thousands of years of physical and mental torture to show compassion to the deluded descendants of evil?
    Of course...

    Attachment 19467

    The main question is, can we forgive ourselves? That's the real kicker.
    I believe anyone that can't should start to find a way
    Last edited by ThePythonicCow; 29th November 2012 at 01:24. Reason: Trim quoted material
    Experiencing pain and suffering is the gateway to joy and happiness.
    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

  7. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Kiforall For This Post:

    D-Day (30th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), PurpleLama (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012)

  8. Link to Post #5
    United States Avalon Member
    Join Date
    3rd October 2012
    Posts
    9
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 33 times in 7 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Yes, We all have it in us to forgive and move on. Not forget just forgive as we hurt ourselves more when we do not forgive.

    Something to think about.

  9. The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to TamaraS For This Post:

    bennycog (30th November 2012), Camilo (1st December 2012), Fred Steeves (29th November 2012), jjjones (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), shadowstalker (29th November 2012), skamandar (2nd December 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012)

  10. Link to Post #6
    Canada Avalon Member DeDukshyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    22nd January 2011
    Location
    From 100 Mile House ;-)
    Language
    English
    Age
    52
    Posts
    9,421
    Thanks
    29,872
    Thanked 45,989 times in 8,575 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    No way. A word is a contract and I´ll not make any deal with people I despise.

    I´m not Jesus, you know. I wont forgive people who may very well murder me one of these days.

    Besides, none of them asked for my forgiveness.

    Raf.
    If they did?
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

  11. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to DeDukshyn For This Post:

    Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), skamandar (2nd December 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012)

  12. Link to Post #7
    United States Avalon Member RunningDeer's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2012
    Location
    Forest Dweller
    Language
    English
    Age
    76
    Posts
    20,071
    Thanks
    137,923
    Thanked 184,560 times in 19,886 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Based on past life experiences, I'd say yes I can and yes I will. Though, those scenarios listed aren't in my upcoming timeline.

  13. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to RunningDeer For This Post:

    Camilo (1st December 2012), deridan (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), Nickolai (1st December 2012), shadowstalker (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), T Smith (29th November 2012), write4change (30th November 2012)

  14. Link to Post #8
    Finland Avalon Member Wind's Avatar
    Join Date
    25th September 2011
    Location
    A dream called Life
    Posts
    7,938
    Thanks
    88,849
    Thanked 49,471 times in 7,723 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do".
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

  15. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Wind For This Post:

    Camilo (1st December 2012), deridan (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), WyoSeeker (29th November 2012), Youniverse (29th November 2012)

  16. Link to Post #9
    Great Britain Avalon Member Kiforall's Avatar
    Join Date
    23rd September 2012
    Location
    Somewhere I cherish
    Age
    52
    Posts
    585
    Thanks
    2,600
    Thanked 2,700 times in 527 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by TamaraS (here)
    Yes, We all have it in us to forgive and move on. Not forget just forgive as we hurt ourselves more when we do not forgive.

    Something to think about.
    I try to understand that what is in the past is in the past

    Unless there was a way to go back and change events, I know of none yet, we need to accept what has been done.

    Our only way of growing as a purer being, with compassion, is to learn from our mistakes.

    A long time ago we allowed an evil side of us to retreat, to hide away, we didn't understand at the time that we would suffer due to this freedom we bestowed onto our brothers and sisters.

    The lesson to be learn't is that we are all One, just as our being is all One, although you may not know yourself yet, yourself knows you.

    I forgave myself by understanding why I did things.

    Believing that if there hadn't been a reason for doing it when the time was now, I would not have done it.

    In that way everything I have done has been for a reason and I must trust my higher self to know what is right, if I can't trust myself who can I trust?

    What if everything that had happened in life had been done to bring us together?

    I try to look at it both as a single person (me coming together with myself and humanity both good and evil coming together) by doing this I can forgive All.

    Zoe x
    Experiencing pain and suffering is the gateway to joy and happiness.
    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

  17. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Kiforall For This Post:

    Ki's (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), sandy (29th November 2012), Snookie (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), Tarka the Duck (29th November 2012), Wind (29th November 2012)

  18. Link to Post #10
    Great Britain Avalon Member Kiforall's Avatar
    Join Date
    23rd September 2012
    Location
    Somewhere I cherish
    Age
    52
    Posts
    585
    Thanks
    2,600
    Thanked 2,700 times in 527 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
    Based on past life experiences, I'd say yes I can and yes I will. Though, those scenarios listed aren't in my upcoming timeline.
    Aren't we about to change our timeline? Is the date not Dec 21st 2012?

    Or is that only if we learn to love each other, meaning self as well.

    In that case I understand

    We're all DOOMED I'm definitely bringing in my tomato plants

    No, only joking.....................I'm not giving up on humanity................................yet.

    Zoe x
    Experiencing pain and suffering is the gateway to joy and happiness.
    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

  19. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Kiforall For This Post:

    Ki's (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), sandy (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), Wind (29th November 2012)

  20. Link to Post #11
    Morocco Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    18th January 2011
    Location
    With friends
    Age
    73
    Posts
    5,659
    Thanks
    45,848
    Thanked 45,191 times in 5,447 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    I forgive the mosquito for biting me and I forgive myself for killing it. There is no joy in killing it. A world without mosquitoes, and other bloodsucking critters would be a better place. The mosquitoes are symbols, IMO. Like leeches and ticks. Leeches do have uses though. I'm sure the elite my have uses. They will just have to be kept in containers until needed. Or allowed to be in the wild, but fair game if caught helping themselves.

    There are layers of misunderstanding here. Symbolism, cause and effect. What does the collective outer world reflect about the collective inner world? What does our private outer world reflect about our personal inner one?

    Bottom line, forgiveness is always required. It is a secret to freedom. A major stumbling block for many and often conflated with conflicting issues.

    I forgive them and I forgive myself for seeing them for what they are. Redemption is always possible. Shifting DNA takes intention, desire and perseverance. They have deep morphogenetic fields that they are part of. This issue can run deep. Fortunately, forgiveness does not take great intellect. Just an investment for the best outcome for all. Forgiveness is the ultimate win/win scenario.
    Last edited by modwiz; 29th November 2012 at 02:23.

  21. Link to Post #12
    United States Avalon Member RunningDeer's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2012
    Location
    Forest Dweller
    Language
    English
    Age
    76
    Posts
    20,071
    Thanks
    137,923
    Thanked 184,560 times in 19,886 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Now more than ever, I'm awakening to dark ones that hold up strong mirrors both for the light and dark within myself. Still some left to clear out, but not as bad as I once thought. (ugh! judgement & perfection)

    Is it possible that in darkness, light shines? This evening it seems so. Though, tomorrow, I may ask, "Why the heck did you post this?"

  22. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to RunningDeer For This Post:

    Debra (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), modwiz (29th November 2012), PurpleLama (29th November 2012), Reirrac (29th November 2012), sandy (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), spiritguide (29th November 2012), T Smith (29th November 2012)

  23. Link to Post #13
    Canada Avalon Member DeDukshyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    22nd January 2011
    Location
    From 100 Mile House ;-)
    Language
    English
    Age
    52
    Posts
    9,421
    Thanks
    29,872
    Thanked 45,989 times in 8,575 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    I forgive the mosquito for biting me and I forgive myself for killing it. There is no joy in killing it. A world without mosquitoes, and other bloodsucking critters would be a better place. The mosquitoes are symbols, IMO. Like leeches and ticks. Leeches do have uses though. I'm sure the elite my have uses. They will just have to be kept in containers until needed. Or allowed to be in the wild, but fair game if caught helping themselves.

    There are layers of misunderstanding here. Symbolism, cause and effect. What does the collective outer world reflect about the collective inner world? What does our private outer world reflect about our personal inner one?

    Bottom line, forgiveness is always required. It is a secret to freedom. A major stumbling block for many and often conflated with conflicting issues.

    I forgive them and I forgive myself for seeing them for what they are. Redemption is always possible. Shifting DNA takes intention, desire and perseverance. They have deep morphogenetic fields that they are part of. This issue can run deep. Fortunately, forgiveness does not take great intellect. Just an investment for the best outcome for all. Forgiveness is the ultimate win/win scenario.
    Perfect aim and well setup s9ights tonight! ... oh wait .. where'd that 9 come from ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

  24. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to DeDukshyn For This Post:

    Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), modwiz (29th November 2012), TargeT (30th November 2012)

  25. Link to Post #14
    Brazil Avalon Retired Member
    Join Date
    28th June 2011
    Location
    Belo Horizonte, Brazil
    Age
    43
    Posts
    3,857
    Thanks
    18,436
    Thanked 24,135 times in 3,536 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    No way. A word is a contract and I´ll not make any deal with people I despise.

    I´m not Jesus, you know. I wont forgive people who may very well murder me one of these days.

    Besides, none of them asked for my forgiveness.

    Raf.
    If they did?
    Hey mate,

    Well, if they did, I would forgive them, but only if they agree to publicly confess their crimes and submit themselves to the judgment of an international court of law.

    Raf.
    Last edited by RMorgan; 29th November 2012 at 02:41.

  26. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to RMorgan For This Post:

    DeDukshyn (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), Tarka the Duck (29th November 2012)

  27. Link to Post #15
    United States Avalon Member RunningDeer's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2012
    Location
    Forest Dweller
    Language
    English
    Age
    76
    Posts
    20,071
    Thanks
    137,923
    Thanked 184,560 times in 19,886 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by Kiforall (here)
    Quote Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
    Based on past life experiences, I'd say yes I can and yes I will. Though, those scenarios listed aren't in my upcoming timeline.
    Aren't we about to change our timeline? Is the date not Dec 21st 2012?

    Or is that only if we learn to love each other, meaning self as well.

    In that case I understand

    We're all DOOMED I'm definitely bringing in my tomato plants

    No, only joking.....................I'm not giving up on humanity................................yet.

    Zoe x
    Quote We're all DOOMED.
    We're all DOOMED? We = "We" minus "WhiteCrowBlackDeer"

    Doomed is another way of saying I get to do another firewalk. I should change my power animal to the Phoenix.

    I don't have tomato plants to bring, I'll stick with my Ben & Jerry's.


    Quote No, only joking.....................I'm not giving up on humanity................................yet.
    I agree. I don't see that in you either.
    Last edited by RunningDeer; 29th November 2012 at 02:34.

  28. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to RunningDeer For This Post:

    Debra (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012)

  29. Link to Post #16
    Canada Avalon Member DeDukshyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    22nd January 2011
    Location
    From 100 Mile House ;-)
    Language
    English
    Age
    52
    Posts
    9,421
    Thanks
    29,872
    Thanked 45,989 times in 8,575 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    No way. A word is a contract and I´ll not make any deal with people I despise.

    I´m not Jesus, you know. I wont forgive people who may very well murder me one of these days.

    Besides, none of them asked for my forgiveness.

    Raf.
    If they did?
    Hey mate,

    Well, if they did, I would forgive them, but only if they agreed to public confess their crimes and submit themselves the judgment of an international court of law.

    Raf.
    Thanks for that Raf .. I like your honesty. But isn't that the same answer they might give in a similar but different "shootout"? What do you feel it is that truly separates us from them?

    I like to think in this regards, that I can exercise unconditional love --- this makes me different from them. This includes instant forgiveness as well. I also see that as a strength they cannot carry. Of course my 2 cents with Love Just a thought ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

  30. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to DeDukshyn For This Post:

    Debra (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), modwiz (29th November 2012), RMorgan (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), Tarka the Duck (29th November 2012), Wind (29th November 2012)

  31. Link to Post #17
    Great Britain Avalon Member Kiforall's Avatar
    Join Date
    23rd September 2012
    Location
    Somewhere I cherish
    Age
    52
    Posts
    585
    Thanks
    2,600
    Thanked 2,700 times in 527 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
    Now more than ever, I'm awakening to dark ones that hold up strong mirrors both for the light and dark within myself. Still some left to clear out, but not as bad as I once thought. (ugh! judgement & perfection)

    Is it possible that in darkness, light shines? This evening it seems so. Though, tomorrow, I may ask, "Why the heck did you post this?"
    When that time comes that you question it remember you believed it at the time.

    There was a reason NOW that you believed it THEN because it was truly in the NOW.

    You didn't get chance to question it, your Heart told you.

    Now tomorrow if you question it, and I did many a time.

    Just forgive yourself for doubting and know that the next thing will almost certainly removed the last doubt or it will claify it for you, however you need it. You know yourself better than anyone. So don't worry about the steps up to it, I feel it's humility.

    Well that's how it seems to be happening with me. Presuming I'm not the only one.
    It's all about trusting your heart. It was always described as a gut instinct............feels a bit s*** to me compared to pure heart instinct.

    Zoe x
    Experiencing pain and suffering is the gateway to joy and happiness.
    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

  32. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Kiforall For This Post:

    Ki's (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012)

  33. Link to Post #18
    Great Britain Avalon Member Kiforall's Avatar
    Join Date
    23rd September 2012
    Location
    Somewhere I cherish
    Age
    52
    Posts
    585
    Thanks
    2,600
    Thanked 2,700 times in 527 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    No way. A word is a contract and I´ll not make any deal with people I despise.

    I´m not Jesus, you know. I wont forgive people who may very well murder me one of these days.


























































































































































































    Besides, none of them asked for my forgiveness.

    Raf.
    If they did?
    Hey mate,

    Well, if they did, I would forgive them, but only if they agree to publicly confess their crimes and submit themselves to the judgment of an international court of law.

    Raf.
    Would that be possible for the numbers we are talking about?

    Zoe x
    Experiencing pain and suffering is the gateway to joy and happiness.
    It's chronic pain that prevents the gateway opening.

  34. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Kiforall For This Post:

    RMorgan (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), skamandar (2nd December 2012)

  35. Link to Post #19
    Avalon Retired Member
    Join Date
    24th September 2011
    Location
    Where I am
    Posts
    1,416
    Thanks
    4,787
    Thanked 7,468 times in 1,312 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    Once you understand the role they play in your awakening, yes of course. The mind that passes through and out of the paradigm of suffering and separate selves
    can't maintain a grievance. There is no more 'life or death' dilemma, when there is no such thing as death.
    Consider this; they stay what they consider 'alive', by controlling an illusion of life and death. Imagine the quality of the world they've designed for themselves.
    Trapped in it until they let it go. You don't defy the laws of reality and get away with anything.
    I pity that mind.
    .

  36. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to markpierre For This Post:

    Debra (29th November 2012), deridan (29th November 2012), Fred Steeves (29th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), Snookie (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012), Tarka the Duck (29th November 2012), Youniverse (29th November 2012)

  37. Link to Post #20
    Canada Avalon Member Youniverse's Avatar
    Join Date
    1st June 2012
    Location
    Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada
    Age
    54
    Posts
    633
    Thanks
    550
    Thanked 1,825 times in 535 posts

    Default Re: A New Insight

    From where I stand there is nothing to forgive. Evolution is not a sin, nor is it wrong. In becoming more like All That Is we can begin to more fully understand what Jesus meant when he said "forgive them, they know not what they do." Yes forgiveness is divine and great for one's personal sense of peace and well-being. But we can move past that and come to the conclusion that ignorance of a higher truth is in itself not a sin. Yes we make choices both conscious and unconsciously that create who we are, but that free will was given to us for a purpose, and if we were expected to always make the right choice or else, we would never have been given the ability to make the wrong choice. I still forgive when it makes me or someone else feel better, but it is not necessary in my opinion. Evolution will push us all past this need to forgive or be forgived, and there will be no more Cabal or whatever as that structure gets swept into the dustbin of the history of humanity.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    Quote Posted by markpierre (here)
    Once you understand the role they play in your awakening, yes of course. The mind that passes through and out of the paradigm of suffering and separate selves
    can't maintain a grievance. There is no more 'life or death' dilemma, when there is no such thing as death.
    Consider this; they stay what they consider 'alive', by controlling an illusion of life and death. Imagine the quality of the world they've designed for themselves.
    Trapped in it until they let it go. You don't defy the laws of reality and get away with anything.
    I pity that mind.
    .
    I pity that mind too.
    If we want to be enlightened, we need to lighten up

  38. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Youniverse For This Post:

    Debra (29th November 2012), DeDukshyn (30th November 2012), Ki's (29th November 2012), Kiforall (29th November 2012), markpierre (29th November 2012), RunningDeer (29th November 2012), Spiral (29th November 2012)

Page 1 of 3 1 3 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts