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    Here's what they finally figured out and it's too late:

    http://meemsy.com/v/5230
    "Lay Down Your Truth and Check Your Weapons
    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    There appears to be a perception, especially within the alternative and New Age communities, that the human collective consciousness is awakening/rising at a rapidly increasing rate.
    Well speaking personally I can vouch for that as truth.

    I submit that it is a strong possibility that by concentrating on external phenomena and being concerned by ideas that TPTB are winning, is distracting yourself from where the real action is, INSIDE!

    I look out the window I see high rise buildings, new ones are being built (boo!!!). In the background I see the sea, waiting in its blue serene calm, waiting for the day to reclaim Sydney's water front and show the property developers who is the real boss.

    They simply cannot win. I don't know what timescales we are talking about, but I have 100% faith that things are going to change in the way I have been saying; and it looks like its going to happen in many cases in a non-catastrophic way (even though many others may be met with natural disaster and other catastrophe).

    The bad guys have not even been able to pull off anything like another 9/11 in eleven years - Can you name one false flag event since then with any significant loss of life ?

    They are even loosing their abilities to cause or distort natural disasters.

    Wars are increasingly difficult to orchestrate.

    Chemtrails are attempted but seem to have no real effect.

    Much corruption is coming to light, truths once hidden are being revealed.

    Tell me, why do you think that TPTB's powers are NOT waning?
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    An invisible revolution from the inside out. The only way it would work. I too see this revolution unfolding, slowly for many years but the speed of it now seems very, very fast. 15 years ago there wasn't a soul on the street you could relate this stuff to. Now it's up to 25%+ of people I talk to seem to be unknowing participants in this revolution. First the perception changes ... then the external view is created to match it.

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    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    Tell me, why do you think that TPTB's powers are NOT waning?
    Ok, well here's a few things just quickly off the top of my head....

    - The food we eat is poisoned.

    - The water we drink is poisoned.

    - The air we breathe is poisoned.

    - The medicine we're given to prevent us from becoming sick or dying (in many instancess) is poisoned.

    - Our homes, workplaces, pockets, and handbags (for the most part) are filled with high-frequency EMF emitting devices (like wi-fi modems, mobile phones, microwaves, smart meters, digital televisions etc) that are irradiating us constantly

    - The rates of cancer have increased exponentially over the past half century, to that point that we are now being told 1 in every 2 people born in the last 10 years will be directly affected by cancer/s at some stage in their life.

    - The resources of our planet continue to be raped at an alarming rate - in order to fuel the ever-burning fires of industry and commerce that prop up their "false" economy.

    - Reserve banks around the world print money that isn't backed by tangible asstets or commodities out of thin air and then ask goverments (i.e. tax payers) to pay interest on it.

    - In many countries, powerful corporations dictate to governments (behind the scenes of course) the policies and legislature that are to be introduced "by the people and for the people" - few of which, however, actually benefit "the people".

    - Banks and other powerful financial firms continue to manipulate and distort global financial markets for their own gain - mostly at the expense of "the people".

    - The education systems where our children are sent to "learn" are designed predominantly to turn them into mindless worker drones who (for the most part) will be almost completely incapable of thinking for themselves by the time their "programming" is complete.

    - MSM is completely controlled and continuoulsy pumps programmed propaganda down the throats of those who are too docile (probably due to all the fluoride in their water) to recongise their brand of BS for what it is.

    - And if the average Joe isn't watching MSM "news", then he's probably watching some BS reality tv show or sit-coim that is also designed specifically to program and indoctriniate him to become even further entrenched in 'their' matrix.

    - Our environment is being unnecessarily destroyed (at an ever-increasing rate) - mainly because corporations are withholding free energy technologies that, due to the impact they would have on the existing petro-dollar-based economic paradigm, continue to remain suppressed.

    - Horrific wars are being waged on almost a monthly basis right across the globe. Just look at the past few years... Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, and in many other countries as well but less prolifically "reported on" by MSM (because it doesn't serve "their" purpose to report on those ones.

    - Financial markets across the globe are continuing their downward spiral. But "seemingly" this is only affecting governments (who get bailed out by "the people"), banks (who get bailed out by "the people"), and "the people" who get bailed out by, well... nobody!!

    I guess I should stop... or shall I continue?... I could easily keep going if anyone wants me to... but surely that is sufficient enough evidence to illustrate my point??

    So yes, based on the above-stated points, I can totally understand why some people might be under the impression that we have TPTB by the short and curlies right now... NOT!!

    Now, I have a question for you Anchor... please tell me what (in this physical reality) DON'T 'they' control or have the ability to infulence?
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    I agree, we are them, we are all made of the same stuff. The difference is empathy or not, and that is a huge difference.



    Real Positivity.

    Being over-positive can be stressful and can cover up reality, turning reality into something which it is not. It can be misleading, as it is trying to make what is perfect, more perfect.

    There is a huge wave of over-positiveness sweeping the modern world. It makes claims which are beyond people's reach. It's wanting to create a new you. It makes a big deal out of itself. It makes many claims.

    This is a very subtle business, positivity. There is negativity and there is positivity: they are both fine and useful. But when we get into negative negativity and positive positivity we run into trouble.

    Negative negativity is justifying a mistaken view. It is an illusion just turned into delusion.
    Positive positivity is justifying a real view. It is turning reality into a ritual.

    In ancient Sanskrit text, there are three aspects of our nature described as the three Gunas: Tamas, Rajas and Sattva. Tamas is a sleepy state. Rajas is an active state and Sattva is an awakened state. But they are called the three thieves.

    Tamas represents dullness. Rajas represents excitement. Sattva represents stillness. It's easy to see that the first two are thieves to our being, but it is not so easy to see in the third - Sattva. It is the clinging to Sattva that takes us down to the other two states. All three states are beneficial, but when we identify with them they become demonic.

    This is what meditation is all about – constantly letting go. Depending on our temperament, the negative or positive aspects of our nature can be used. We can use aversion as the path. We can use desire as the path. We can actually use ignorance as the path.

    Ignorance is interesting. Ignorance means indifference, don't care, spaced out, lacking spaciousness,
    lacking generosity, feeling solid. But that can be turned into a spacious, carefree open quality ...pure awareness of Essence.

    So we can all work in different ways. Anything negative that 'seems' to be happening can be flipped into real positivity.
    If we do not know this, we will believe anything!

    To these 'Silly People Who Try TO Control' everything, just want us to keep busy, sticking to 'stuff',
    just say, hello goodbye! It's just like those chattering thoughts in the mind...they all come to pass!


    Don't believe anything, only your pure awareness, without it we would not 'know'!



    Tony

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    All beings are sentient (having mind).
    All beings have enlightened potential.
    All beings have darkness within.
    All beings have light within.
    All beings are angels..practitioners of some sort.
    All beings are fallen angels...stopped practising.
    All beings have a constant choice.
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    We are at a very interesting and valuable moment in time.

    What the PTB (those lacking empathy) do not realise - because they are not pure practitioners -
    is the value of fear. It concentrates the mind!

    This is something one does not generally talk about, as it is personal practice, but it may help to understand fear.

    My main practice is Emptiness Awareness, Pure Awareness, but as a backup plan, I do Vajrayana (deity practice). My deity is extremely wrathful. This wrathful deity is a practice against wrong views, and for protection.

    According to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, after death, appearances occur in the form of Peaceful bright Lights: these are Peaceful deities inviting one to higher realms - or even enlightenment, if one recognises their true nature. At the same time, dull lights appear, drawing one down to one's familiar neurotic realms again...such as here...due to the effect of karma!

    Each Peaceful deity has a wrathful side, and so on the second week after death, there are wrathful appearances. Wrathful here means extreme love: this is very important. The mind is so shocked at these appearances that it stays focused, to remind one of one's true nature, Empty Awareness.

    Therefore, fear heightens our awareness! Instead of being controlled by our reptilian brain/mind, of flight, fight, or freeze (blankness), we now have the power to recognise pure awareness.

    In pure Essence there is no fear, because it is indestructible.
    Fear only occurs when we identify with the body or mind.

    Close your eyes, and everything seems dark. What recognises the dark is the light: your awareness is the clear light...you are clear light!


    I think that solves all our problems, so I'm off to do the shopping...









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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Now, I have a question for you Anchor... please tell me what (in this physical reality) DON'T 'they' control or have the ability to infulence?
    You post is excellent. I must respond!!

    I can only speak for myself, but in the certain knowledge that I am not alone.

    > The food we eat is poisoned.

    Mine is mostly not. We take great pains to reduce that to a minimum.

    > The water we drink is poisoned.

    Mine is not.

    > The air we breathe is poisoned.

    In the city in which I work, this may is true, when I am out in the country, I do not think it is. I will concede that the air quality and vitality is far below what it should be.

    In all of the above cases spiritual techniques, intent, prayer, whatever system of codified intent that you use; can be used to ameliorate the effects of low quality/vitality nutrition. I try to eat/drink the best I can find, but I will often bless my food and ask for it to be purified and transmuted in the best way for its intended purpose. Even works for milkshakes like I had today

    > The medicine we're given to prevent us from becoming sick or dying (in many instancess) is poisoned.

    Barring the occasional rare use of NSAID's like Ibubrofen (a reasoned choice which I take with full responsibility for the side-effects they have on my body), I don't take any - not for the last 5 years actually to the best of my knowledge.

    So far all of the above, with the exception of air, and for those people who are not situated well enough to have a choice, are indeed subject to choice. And those that have a choice and look upon those that do not, and do not help them, they will have to reckon with that in due course. Present company included.

    > Our homes, workplaces, pockets, and handbags (for the most part) are filled with high-frequency EMF emitting devices (like wi-fi modems, mobile phones, microwaves, smart meters, digital televisions etc) that are irradiating us constantly

    I am unaffected. I have to carry two cell phones during the working week, I have Wi-fi, my car has bluetooth all our computers are wifi, I have SMPS's all over the house, and CFD lighting. I call fear-mongering BS.

    SOME people are certainly EMF sensitive. With some other people like my wife, it is the other way around, they have an adverse effect on electrical equipment, which often malfunctions in her hands! I reason that human powers trump low level gadgetry.

    (Usually its the TV remote, she still watches it, and I think someone is trying to tell her something!)

    >The rates of cancer have increased exponentially over the past half century, to that point that we are now being told 1 in every 2 people born in the last 10 years will be directly affected by cancer/s at some stage in their life.

    IMO cancer has metaphysical causes. Unfortunately TPTB understood these and can create living circumstances that coax people into situations where cancers manifest. I agree that they have done this and profit greatly from it on account of the associated pharmacology they sell directly or indirectly to "sufferers".

    > The resources of our planet continue to be raped at an alarming rate - in order to fuel the ever-burning fires of industry and commerce that prop up their "false" economy.

    Cant argue with this.

    > Reserve banks around the world print money that isn't backed by tangible asstets or commodities out of thin air and then ask goverments (i.e. tax payers) to pay interest on it.

    This has almost run its course.

    > In many countries, powerful corporations dictate to governments (behind the scenes of course) the policies and legislature that are to be introduced "by the people and for the people" - few of which, however, actually benefit "the people".

    You know this, I know this, soon many more will awaken to this and that is one of the main phases of the turning point that I see coming.

    > Banks and other powerful financial firms continue to manipulate and distort global financial markets for their own gain > mostly at the expense of "the people".

    > The education systems where our children are sent to "learn" are designed predominantly to turn them into mindless worker drones who (for the most part) will be almost completely incapable of thinking for themselves by the time their "programming" is complete.

    That was the intent. It is attempted. It was attempted on many of us - we all remember it. If failed to stop many of us.

    > MSM is completely controlled and continuoulsy pumps programmed propaganda down the throats of those who are too docile (probably due to all the fluoride in their water) to recongise their brand of BS for what it is.

    Currently I have to agree - as noted before in this thread. It is as sophisticated now as I think it can get in the near future and STILL people are seeing through it in increasing numbers.

    > And if the average Joe isn't watching MSM "news", then he's probably watching some BS reality tv show or sit-coim that is also designed specifically to program and indoctriniate him to become even further entrenched in 'their' matrix.

    Average Joe is not seeing his answers given completely. Average Joe is usually only three degrees of separation from less than average Joe - sooner or later they will talk. Energy will be exchanged. Light will increase.

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    >I guess I should stop... or shall I continue?... I could easily keep going if anyone wants me to... but surely that is sufficient enough evidence to illustrate my point??

    Well you maybe getting close to repeating yourself in some of the things above, so no I think you made your point.

    My point is that while you have done a very good job of showing some of the tools of TPTB's trade in action, you have not persuaded me that these powers are increasing or even stable. I am certainly not convinced that they are getting better at what they do. I think they are thrashing about. Less co-ordinated. Dying a slow and hard death. That said, complacency is not allowed. They will always try hard to stuff us up - right to the end when they are finally evicted.

    I don't want to be thought of as in denial. I understand that our lives are lived against a very very harsh backdrop of suffering, and by normal standards it is unnecessary, man-made suffering.

    To a small extent I have suffered but in this life I have not starved, I rarely thirst, I am rarely sick, I have not been in a shooting war, I have not lost loved ones to violence. In addition I also have had some marvelous breaks that have allowed me to take opportunities to see how things can be without it. I know I am very lucky. I know I am not properly qualified to look in the eye of one who has suffered and had to explain why, why their babies were torn apart in explosions, or why they have suffered so much they don't even have time or capacity to think about why for want of the next mouthful of food or medical care. I do have time. We all do that read and write here. I have the chance to read the internet, to learn, to meditate, I had the chance to go within, see how that works on the without, and to find out how we can all anchor the light into this world.

    Its easy for me to sit here and write that its all going to get better.

    Its easy for me to be full of hope when on a full belly.

    But still I am. I know I am not the only one.

    And I want to hold that light and the hope. I found a seam of faith in somewhere in my heart. I want that template vision of restoration of paradise on Earth to take root. I want to see a waxing of harmony and a waning of chaos. The tyrants leaving, and the free men and women coming forth. I dont need vengeance or so called "justice", I want to see healing and forgiveness. I want to see people free to be able to take their own choices but at the same time a people who take their brothers need as measure for their action instead of their own need. The other kind can go, there are places for them elsewhere - the tyrants and troublemakers wont be able to live here on the new Earth. Gaia is changing. If you have not felt it recently, I am sure the time will come when you do start to see it.

    It is going to happen, I even think I will see a good deal of it in my life. I am 48.

    Thankyou again for your post.
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    Quote Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
    According to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, after death, appearances occur in the form of Peaceful bright Lights: these are Peaceful deities inviting one to higher realms - or even enlightenment, if one recognises their true nature. At the same time, dull lights appear, drawing one down to one's familiar neurotic realms again...such as here...due to the effect of karma!

    Each Peaceful deity has a wrathful side, and so on the second week after death, there are wrathful appearances. Wrathful here means extreme love: this is very important. The mind is so shocked at these appearances that it stays focused, to remind one of one's true nature, Empty Awareness.

    Therefore, fear heightens our awareness! Instead of being controlled by our reptilian brain/mind, of flight, fight, or freeze (blankness), we now have the power to recognise pure awareness.
    Exactly Tony, and to top it off with what our old bud Hermes said: "As above so below, As below so above".

    Or in this case it would be: "As after death so before death, As before death so after death".

    And now back to morning coffee.

    Cheers,
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    There's very little in the below post that I don't agree with, and you've expressed yourself exceptionally well Anchor (as always ).

    It's clear to me that the key to our dis-enslavement/re-empowerment hinges greatly upon our attainment of certain insights and knowledge that can only be obtained through detachment from 'their' system and re-alingment with the natural order of things.

    To achieve this requires a certain amount of de-programming, followed by a process of re-education (or to be more accurate "re-remembering" of our natural pre-programmed state).

    For many of us here, 'their' methods of influence and control are no longer as effective as they once used to be.

    This, I believe, can be attributed to the fact that we were able to identify and willingly accept the fact that 'something was not quite right with our world and there were things we needed to learn/do in order to fix that'.

    Many folks out there seem content to bury their heads in the aand (or the idiot box) and pretend that everything is 'ok' or 'normal'... despite the fact that the little voice inside is constantly reminding them that they're 'missing something'.

    For those of us who decided to pay attention to that little voice and go do some investigation to try and figure out what the heck was REALLY going on, the reulting payoffs (should) have been well worth the effort.

    With the knowledge and insights gained through our investment of time/energy into the 'inner path/journey', we have come to the realisation that "yes, things AREN'T right in the world", but "yes, there ARE things we can do to remedy that", and "yes, if we could just encourage enough of our kinsmen to do the same we could REALLY shake things up and get this planet back on track again".

    The challenge that we are faced with, I believe, is to convince (somehow) the majority of the gneral popluation to pull thier heads out of the proverbial sand and tear themselves away from their programmed lives long enough to see what's really going on around them.

    This is by no means an easy task, and while the alternative and new age movments have done much to awaken some of us, they have also been infiltrated and perverted by 'them' to the point where it is extremely difficult now to ascertain which information is based upon facts/truth and which is disinformation/misinormation designed to pull people 'off track'.

    I do see that many are starting to open their eyes to what is going on, but I also see that the majority are still heavily entrenched in the matrix and the various programs it 'installs' in people to keep them occupied/distracted, and subsequently unlikely to realise their true potential.

    IMO what we need more than anyting else is a globlal-scale wake up call, something significant, something earth-shatering, something that would deomonstrate unequivocally to the masses that things ain't right and we each have a duty/responsibility to do something about it and fix the mess we've gotten ourselves into.

    We need a catalyst, and we need it fast, because from my vantage point things are really starting to slide downhill at a rapidly increasing rate of knots.

    I realise that many here don't agree with me on that last point - the bit about things sliding down hill - but that is my perception of things, and more than anything else in this world I'd like ot reverse that trend and start getting things moving in a positive/productive direction.

    What we desperately need at this point in time is sginficant, postive change... and we need it now!

    Sending out positive intentions and hoping for positive change is one thing, and I do believe it is helpful/beneficial to do that, but I also feel that what we would benefit from most is focussing our energy on the more physical aspects of manifesting change.

    I have been searching a long time now for answers and solutions to the problems we currently face on this planet, and what I always seem to come back to is the idea that ultimately it is going to be up to us to MAKE the desired changes happen.

    'They' certainly aren't going to do it for us, so unless some benevolent alien race decides to descend from the sky and start cleaning our mess up for us (which I think is HIGHLY unlikely), then we're going to have to step up on a collective scale and start sorting things out for oursleves. .. otherwise this train we are on is just gonna keep on rolling!

    So, the question at the forefront of my mind is.... how, exactly, do we begin the process of pulling the blinders off the eyes of the masses, re-educating them as to the true nature of this reality, getting them to assist in the process of dismantling the current system, and finding a way to get them to work together peacefully and harmoniously to create a true paradise here on Earth.

    Any thoughts, Avalon??


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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Now, I have a question for you Anchor... please tell me what (in this physical reality) DON'T 'they' control or have the ability to infulence?
    You post is excellent. I must respond!!

    I can only speak for myself, but in the certain knowledge that I am not alone.

    > The food we eat is poisoned.

    Mine is mostly not. We take great pains to reduce that to a minimum.

    > The water we drink is poisoned.

    Mine is not.

    > The air we breathe is poisoned.

    In the city in which I work, this may is true, when I am out in the country, I do not think it is. I will concede that the air quality and vitality is far below what it should be.

    In all of the above cases spiritual techniques, intent, prayer, whatever system of codified intent that you use; can be used to ameliorate the effects of low quality/vitality nutrition. I try to eat/drink the best I can find, but I will often bless my food and ask for it to be purified and transmuted in the best way for its intended purpose. Even works for milkshakes like I had today

    > The medicine we're given to prevent us from becoming sick or dying (in many instancess) is poisoned.

    Barring the occasional rare use of NSAID's like Ibubrofen (a reasoned choice which I take with full responsibility for the side-effects they have on my body), I don't take any - not for the last 5 years actually to the best of my knowledge.

    So far all of the above, with the exception of air, and for those people who are not situated well enough to have a choice, are indeed subject to choice. And those that have a choice and look upon those that do not, and do not help them, they will have to reckon with that in due course. Present company included.

    > Our homes, workplaces, pockets, and handbags (for the most part) are filled with high-frequency EMF emitting devices (like wi-fi modems, mobile phones, microwaves, smart meters, digital televisions etc) that are irradiating us constantly

    I am unaffected. I have to carry two cell phones during the working week, I have Wi-fi, my car has bluetooth all our computers are wifi, I have SMPS's all over the house, and CFD lighting. I call fear-mongering BS.

    SOME people are certainly EMF sensitive. With some other people like my wife, it is the other way around, they have an adverse effect on electrical equipment, which often malfunctions in her hands! I reason that human powers trump low level gadgetry.

    (Usually its the TV remote, she still watches it, and I think someone is trying to tell her something!)

    >The rates of cancer have increased exponentially over the past half century, to that point that we are now being told 1 in every 2 people born in the last 10 years will be directly affected by cancer/s at some stage in their life.

    IMO cancer has metaphysical causes. Unfortunately TPTB understood these and can create living circumstances that coax people into situations where cancers manifest. I agree that they have done this and profit greatly from it on account of the associated pharmacology they sell directly or indirectly to "sufferers".

    > The resources of our planet continue to be raped at an alarming rate - in order to fuel the ever-burning fires of industry and commerce that prop up their "false" economy.

    Cant argue with this.

    > Reserve banks around the world print money that isn't backed by tangible asstets or commodities out of thin air and then ask goverments (i.e. tax payers) to pay interest on it.

    This has almost run its course.

    > In many countries, powerful corporations dictate to governments (behind the scenes of course) the policies and legislature that are to be introduced "by the people and for the people" - few of which, however, actually benefit "the people".

    You know this, I know this, soon many more will awaken to this and that is one of the main phases of the turning point that I see coming.

    > Banks and other powerful financial firms continue to manipulate and distort global financial markets for their own gain > mostly at the expense of "the people".

    > The education systems where our children are sent to "learn" are designed predominantly to turn them into mindless worker drones who (for the most part) will be almost completely incapable of thinking for themselves by the time their "programming" is complete.

    That was the intent. It is attempted. It was attempted on many of us - we all remember it. If failed to stop many of us.

    > MSM is completely controlled and continuoulsy pumps programmed propaganda down the throats of those who are too docile (probably due to all the fluoride in their water) to recongise their brand of BS for what it is.

    Currently I have to agree - as noted before in this thread. It is as sophisticated now as I think it can get in the near future and STILL people are seeing through it in increasing numbers.

    > And if the average Joe isn't watching MSM "news", then he's probably watching some BS reality tv show or sit-coim that is also designed specifically to program and indoctriniate him to become even further entrenched in 'their' matrix.

    Average Joe is not seeing his answers given completely. Average Joe is usually only three degrees of separation from less than average Joe - sooner or later they will talk. Energy will be exchanged. Light will increase.

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    >I guess I should stop... or shall I continue?... I could easily keep going if anyone wants me to... but surely that is sufficient enough evidence to illustrate my point??

    Well you maybe getting close to repeating yourself in some of the things above, so no I think you made your point.

    My point is that while you have done a very good job of showing some of the tools of TPTB's trade in action, you have not persuaded me that these powers are increasing or even stable. I am certainly not convinced that they are getting better at what they do. I think they are thrashing about. Less co-ordinated. Dying a slow and hard death. That said, complacency is not allowed. They will always try hard to stuff us up - right to the end when they are finally evicted.

    I don't want to be thought of as in denial. I understand that our lives are lived against a very very harsh backdrop of suffering, and by normal standards it is unnecessary, man-made suffering.

    To a small extent I have suffered but in this life I have not starved, I rarely thirst, I am rarely sick, I have not been in a shooting war, I have not lost loved ones to violence. In addition I also have had some marvelous breaks that have allowed me to take opportunities to see how things can be without it. I know I am very lucky. I know I am not properly qualified to look in the eye of one who has suffered and had to explain why, why their babies were torn apart in explosions, or why they have suffered so much they don't even have time or capacity to think about why for want of the next mouthful of food or medical care. I do have time. We all do that read and write here. I have the chance to read the internet, to learn, to meditate, I had the chance to go within, see how that works on the without, and to find out how we can all anchor the light into this world.

    Its easy for me to sit here and write that its all going to get better.

    Its easy for me to be full of hope when on a full belly.

    But still I am. I know I am not the only one.

    And I want to hold that light and the hope. I found a seam of faith in somewhere in my heart. I want that template vision of restoration of paradise on Earth to take root. I want to see a waxing of harmony and a waning of chaos. The tyrants leaving, and the free men and women coming forth. I dont need vengeance or so called "justice", I want to see healing and forgiveness. I want to see people free to be able to take their own choices but at the same time a people who take their brothers need as measure for their action instead of their own need. The other kind can go, there are places for them elsewhere - the tyrants and troublemakers wont be able to live here on the new Earth. Gaia is changing. If you have not felt it recently, I am sure the time will come when you do start to see it.

    It is going to happen, I even think I will see a good deal of it in my life. I am 48.

    Thankyou again for your post.
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    I agree, your logic is flawless For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more evil they try and pull off, or manage to pull off, the more God is manifested in the dialectical outcome.

    They can destroy the body but not the spirit. When enough people realize that, the TPTW are as good as gone.
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    Now, I have a question for you Anchor... please tell me what (in this physical reality) DON'T 'they' control or have the ability to infulence?
    You post is excellent. I must respond!!

    I can only speak for myself, but in the certain knowledge that I am not alone.

    > The food we eat is poisoned.

    Mine is mostly not. We take great pains to reduce that to a minimum.

    > The water we drink is poisoned.

    Mine is not.

    > The air we breathe is poisoned.

    In the city in which I work, this may is true, when I am out in the country, I do not think it is. I will concede that the air quality and vitality is far below what it should be.
    ..... <trim> .

    I would also add that 30 years ago all this stuff was already happening (except the mobiles maybe), but the difference then is that know one new. Their secrets were safe. The fact D-Day that you can sit down and make that list means everything HAS already changed. Their actions are no longer invisible to us, this is why they appear to have ramped up everything big time -- because they are losing the battle, not because they are "winning"
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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
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    Now, I have a question for you Anchor... please tell me what (in this physical reality) DON'T 'they' control or have the ability to infulence?
    You post is excellent. I must respond!!

    I can only speak for myself, but in the certain knowledge that I am not alone.

    > The food we eat is poisoned.

    Mine is mostly not. We take great pains to reduce that to a minimum.

    > The water we drink is poisoned.

    Mine is not.

    > The air we breathe is poisoned.

    In the city in which I work, this may is true, when I am out in the country, I do not think it is. I will concede that the air quality and vitality is far below what it should be.
    ..... <trim> .
    I would also add that 30 years ago all this stuff was already happening (except the mobiles maybe), but the difference then is that know one new. Their secrets were safe. The fact D-Day that you can sit down and make that list means everything HAS already changed. Their actions are no longer invisible to us, this is why they appear to have ramped up everything big time -- because they are losing the battle, not because they are "winning"
    This post is an example of what I mean by falling into a deep sadness. We simply cannot understand the Truth or Reality of what is occurring.

    “They’ stay 20 to 50 years ahead of the rest of Humanity. Yes, we now can see some of the plans and contingencies that were put in place 30 years ago. But what most of us do not see or more factually do not WANT to see is the plans and strategy they have in place now. Right now and have been unfolding rapidly.

    Their actions are still invisible. . . . to those who do not want to see

    They are not loosing any battles let alone what most perceive (I do not any longer) as a war. They are more strategic and layered . . . they are patient and wait for the optimum time to implement . . . sometimes they wait from one generation to the next.

    We have got to pragmatically understand more foundationally what they are doing. They ARE leading the way to the world we dream and debate here on PA. Just as we have some (very few) who are leading others to the same Destination. “Their” path SEEMS evil and cruel because their path is wrought with much more difficult decisions that PHYSICALLY effect humanity now.

    “Our’ path is more cerebral, emotional and what we call spiritual that affects more heavily the INDIVIDUAL and much more smaller group of humanity. This affect is not as visible or dramatic.

    We as Humanity need both paths to achieve and arrive at this desired Destination.

    We are one swing of the pendulum and they are the other. It is those of us who strive to find the balance between the two that will move things forward swiftly and successfully. This balanced group will be made up of people from both ends of the spectrum and so understanding and acceptance is vital.

    As long as we stubbornly remain on our end of the pendulum NOTHING will be accomplished and we will continue down the road to perpetual destruction.

    And this attitude is what I see fully mired on this forum and this is what has thrown me into a deep sadness and near depression. I am exhausted and I am overwhelmed and I cannot find a way to express verbally to this forum what I see now so plainly.

    I wish more could see what I see and what our future could be.

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    I now truly feel there are two pyramids systems 'existing' in the universe.
    The Dark pyramid one we are now aware of, and the other pyramid of Light.
    Light means clarity, empathy and love.
    Dark means confusion, meanness and hatred.

    Trying to understand the pyramid of Darkness may be easier if we first understand the pyramid of Light. I've tried it the other way, and couldn't make sense of it.

    The 'Enlightened' beings, or 'God,' must be radiating love and empathy all the time.
    We'd all do that wouldn't we? So this must be happening!

    We may feel that we are not picking this love up, and that we are being left alone.
    Well, the answer is, we 'are' picking it up, and we are 'not' being left alone!

    A pyramid has levels, right?
    If we recognise that our heart and mind have clarity, empathy and love, then we know to some degree which pyramid we are in: the one of Light. We have a sense of knowing, and we care about others. And sometimes we get inspired...for some reason.

    Many of us here are aware of awareness. All we have to do is trust that, and not modify or contaminate it. Then what needs to be refine will refine, and what needs to be dropped will drop away. Even though our inclining may be small, we need to trust it, and share it so that it spreads. The truth is the truth, and how we express that is up to us.

    I am amazed how, in an open and sympathetic forum, gems are sometimes released. Hostility and exaggeration obscure this delicate interaction. I've looked at other forums, and they seem to be either too tight, or too loose – this one has a good mix!

    Knowing and awareness still have to be purified, but that is done through our conduct of being generous and not reacting. We merely find a way to bring a situation back to balance, and therefore do not move too far way into ego's territory, but stay in the vicinity of awareness: that exahustion of karmic effects seems to be our main job. We are not enlightened, and therefore a mere 'i' is still present - we can only do what we can.

    This is how we help others in the Light pyramid.
    And it's also how we help those in the Dark pyramid!
    We are receiving influences from the enlightened ones. We cannot be told about it, because then we might conceptualise it and claim it. We have to realise this secretly for ourselves. This is not channeling: that way leads to corruption and control, and we can find ourselves in the Dark pyramid.

    The Dark pyramid dwellers are also influenced, but by negative un-empathetic forces. And they really do suffer, because they have acquired a big debt, which has to be repaid. The Dark pyramid offers fame, wealth, power...but it's all a paper dragon...

    If things look bad for you, stay with your open heart and mind, and be aware of awareness.
    Pure Awareness (as has been said many times before!) is your true nature, and no thing can touch it!
    That is our power, so do not give it away by doubting.
    We do not have to comply with the Dark pyramid.
    Merely note its effect, and be still.


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    Feel blessed to hear these words from the Mother, 'soulmate' to Sri Aurobindo.

    Mirra Alfassa, called ‚Mother', was born 1878 and raised in Paris (France).
    Later she lived in Algeria, Japan and India.
    She concentrated on spiritual, philosophical and mystical experiences and teachings.
    Together with Sri Aurobindo she founded an Ashram in Pondicherry (India)
    and developed the Integral Yoga, that aims the transformation of the entire Being.



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    My first deleted post. I must have blatantly misunderstood blufire's post or was thinking I was responding to a different post.
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    This post is an example of what I mean by falling into a deep sadness. We simply cannot understand the Truth or Reality of what is occurring.

    “They’ stay 20 to 50 years ahead of the rest of Humanity. Yes, we now can see some of the plans and contingencies that were put in place 30 years ago. But what most of us do not see or more factually do not WANT to see is the plans and strategy they have in place now. Right now and have been unfolding rapidly.

    Their actions are still invisible. . . . to those who do not want to see

    They are not loosing any battles let alone what most perceive (I do not any longer) as a war. They are more strategic and layered . . . they are patient and wait for the optimum time to implement . . . sometimes they wait from one generation to the next.
    I suspect you could well be right on that much. There's a "game" being played out that likely is layers deeper than I or most on this forum are aware of. I suppose (guess wildly) that it is a complex game, and that it's outcome uncertain on many levels. But as if I were in hand to hand combat with a martial arts master (I'm an untrained klutz myself) I've little doubt that by the time I first realize I've been hit, either (1) I've already positioned myself for the next few incoming blows and the certain loss of consciousness to follow, or (2) I'm regaining consciousness much later, wondering what the heck that was.

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    We have got to pragmatically understand more foundationally what they are doing. They ARE leading the way to the world we dream and debate here on PA.
    It baffles me how someone could think that. I can imagine that if I were in a really bad car accident, and some damned good emergency medical tech was performing an emergency tracheotomy on me without benefit of anesthesia, because that was what had to be done and the best option he had, I might resist, as if he were trying to kill me by slitting my throat. I'm sure that the tech would not be surprised at my resistance.

    But in this case, if our understanding of our human history in recent millenia is anywhere close to correct (a difficult question, admittedly), then it sure seems that some powerful beings hate our guts (or covet our souls?). The suffering, abuse, and destruction that we humans impose on each other and on our surrounds seems unending and immense in scale.

    What on God's green earth would lead you to conclude: "They ARE leading the way to the world we dream and debate here on PA" ?

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    And this attitude is what I see fully mired on this forum and this is what has thrown me into a deep sadness and near depression. I am exhausted and I am overwhelmed and I cannot find a way to express verbally to this forum what I see now so plainly.

    I wish more could see what I see and what our future could be.
    Perhaps a bit of detachment could be useful here? Elephants cannot fly, and sparrows cannot knock down trees. Allow others their limitations, and share your strengths with others when the opportunity arises, assisting, benefiting and combining effort. Some limitations can be overcome in this life, as infants learn to walk. Some cannot, as I will never learn to fly like a sparrow in this life.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
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    We have got to pragmatically understand more foundationally what they are doing. They ARE leading the way to the world we dream and debate here on PA.
    What on God's green earth would lead you to conclude: "They ARE leading the way to the world we dream and debate here on PA" ?
    Are you saying anything like what Simon said here: Simon Parkes about Mantis Aliens, Reptiles and other aliens (Post #493)?
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    Thank you Paul for trying so hard to understand my posts . . .I am aware they seem surreal, disjointed and hypocritical.

    Since I moved back to the Appalachians a year and half ago, I have begun to remember . . . . things are flooding back at such an overwhelming pace that it is hard for me to keep focused.

    I guess it is time for me to tell my own personal story of prolonged contact with the grays when I was a young girl. I think moving back to the mountains and being older and more life experienced and because of this “time” (2012 and forward). . . . I am remembering what I was shown. I will probably do this on my Foxfire Hollow thread.

    One element or example, I do feel strongly about and this does relate somewhat to Simon’s post #493 is the debate about 3rd, 4th and 5th dimensions that is discussed and debated here on PA. . I do not believe they are dimensions or these different levels of spirituality. I believe strongly and the ‘pictures’ that keep flashing through my mind is we could be about to enter into the next world after a ELE or near ELE.

    We have had (depending on source) either 3 or 4 extinction level events in the history of Earth. This is why the number 4 or 5 keeps coming up, but we have confused it with a new age type, religious, spiritual, ascension into a higher consciousness or dimension.

    This is why ‘they’ are preparing on so many levels . . for this very possible ELE. This is why the ET’s are here. This is why we are receiving apocalyptic knowledge. This is the knowledge and information ‘they’ have and are leaking to the rest of us.

    We are just confusing it with a whole lot of hooey and nonsense instead of seeing it for what it truly could be in the actual physical world.

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