Who are the 24 Elders, A revelation

[Billy]

I am going to share more of our past and present situation concerning those that do not have the betterment of humanity within their agenda. And why intervention from outside is not an option. Intervention has to come from humanity.

Quote from Book.

STEVE: Much of it is but I am not very clear about how pollution would be caused by intervention...

Tom: Those lesser civilizations who have been viewing Planet Earth, who have made contacts with governments, and who are in portion in beings upon Planet Earth and are in this realm as well, would have warlike conflict with the Twenty-Four civilizations or those who work with them: therefore that would mean a destructive device in the atmosphere of Planet Earth. Humankind in its great fear would not have acknowledged or understood that there were those of goodness also.

JOHN: Because they would only see two groups...

Tom: Destruction

JOHN: .... destroying each other.

Tom: That is correct, and that would then create nightmarish pollution destructiveness of portions of Planet Earth. We must find another way of removing these others at this time.

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STEVE: They regarded the alien civilizations as the enemy.

Tom: Those that have been inter-playing, yes.

JOHN: So what you're saying is that the civilizations that have come to Earth, have not come and allowed themselves to be..... to interact willingly. It has been done with some tension and conflict for example in the United States?

Tom: That is not what we meant. Those that have been in contact with these governments, and with those vehicles which governments have got hold of: some of these incidents have been accidental, some have been intentional, but in giving they have attempted to ingratiate, and the 'biggies' have decided they must align, for they are not sure of the motives of these civilizations. Their motives are not in goodness, and they also have abductions.

JOHN: They have taken away, abducted some people.

Tom: That is correct. The 'biggies' of Planet Earth decided to align with each other so that they might keep a cohesive front.

JOHN: Yes, so basically what you're saying is that the Twenty-Four civilizations decided to stay away so as not to get mixed up with these other forces, either in people's minds, or in fact in a conflict.

Tom: That is correct.

JOHN: Yes, OK. Well so what next?

Tom: If they can influence the Crescent (the Islamic countries] - that is why the country of USA is attempting to change that situation - if they can activate the Crescent or cause irritation they then create a situation upon Planet Earth which is divisive. And the lesser civilizations then move into a position that may create more devastation. We of the Council of Nine, you must understand that we must function in a manner that does not bring fear of devastation. It is important for humankind to know that there are others who mean well for them and wish only to help the elevation of Planet Earth. We will not permit the destruction of Planet Earth, but humankind must begin to help itself and make decisions based on the survival of Planet Earth.

Note: This message was given 25yrs ago. We now witness this being played out.
I will move on to the good news as soon as we understand the gravity of the present situation.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Let us break the cycle and move forward.

Peace

[TOTHE]

billyji;
That section and the other chapters on Israel has haunted me for years. In December ‘09 and January ‘10 I was in Israel, a very good reason, two weeks for my Daughter’s wedding. I made a commitment to visit Jerusalem with the intent to make peace in my mind and the Nine. The exposed soil that I saw climbing up the escarpment in the # I Bus I had visions of very old bone fragments buried there.... I knew wherever I walked I was hearing distant echoes down through time, my sub-conscious must have had a field day because some impressions were of excitement & joy that I sensed. I was always grounded to the fact that the God/ Source was inside and that my physical eyes with my conscious mind impressions were the windows to the world for the God/ Source to experience. I was the one-eyed man in the land of the blind where the god is worshipped outside, just that I am not a king..I AM the observer.

My post on my gift to pick up “imprints” & me in Israel links to You-Tube.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post254592

[Arrowwind]

Posted by billyji (here)

Although i respect and embrace all religions, I also chose not to follow any set religion. We create our own belief systems. With 7 billion belief systems on the go in our world today ( even Atheist's have a belief system) I have wondered how on earth can humanities consciousness reach the critical mass for us to manifest peace in our world.

Maybe that is what we all have in common. The desire for peace along with the intention to manifest peace. Which in turn breaks down the divisions we have created.

Peace.

I have just come upon this thread and have read it starting at the beginning then moving to the end to the middle where I read this last post by you, Billji.

The answer rang so clear to me ... it is not critical mass with the intent of peace which is needed, What is needed is Love....the pure love that flows from our awakened DNA...

(1 Corinthians 13:1-13)

Thank you for this thread. I had read the Nine teachings, at least in part, long ago. It rang as true to me then and now. As I have always believed we are gods in training and our biggest lesson is to remember.

[lookbeyond]

Posted by billyji (here)
Four is correct TOTHE. Our universe and 3 others.
Quote from above post.

Posted by billyji (here)
A New Direction.
I will explain it in earthly terms: As each of the galaxies and solar systems within the galaxies… first I must clarify: The Universe, with the Nine in the centre, has four sides, the side opposite that in which you exist and the other two are all in balance. Do you understand?

I think the Hindu, Celtic and Tibetan mandalas and American Indian Sand drawings represents the four Universes. Or the Four Directions.

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These mandalas are absolutely mesmerising- i love them

[music]

Hierarchy? Hidden Hands? Asking of permission? Hmmm, misdirection and mind control if you ask me. There is no hierarchy except the hierarchy of ignorance of our true natures. We are all one, and we are all God. There is no council of elders to advise us, but there is plenty of counsel available to us that wishes to steer us into a neat little box where they can harvest the fruits of our labours. Wake up folks, wake up. We do not need advice, we do not need structure, we do not need anything except the realisation that we are perfect. The historical Christ, for example, was a human embodiment of the energy we call the Christ Consciousness. I have had a personal relationship with this energy since my first full vision at age 7. This energy is a feminine energy, but what does the human enforced structure of religion make of this energy? It masculinises it and makes it a part of the trinity of lies which denies the feminine principle (and so cuts us off from our power. There is no enclave of grey-bearded men who are going to do your work for you. The time to seek father (or mother) figures is gone. Self-empowerment, self realisation. Otherwise know as unity consciousness and Love. There is no love in organised religions or any type of hierarchical structure. Pyramids, pyramids, pyramids - from our governments, from our religions, from our work places, in our armies, in our families.

Reclaim your power.

Reclaim your self.

It's scarey, but hey, we can do it.

I love you all.

[Arrowwind]

Yes, reclaiming our power is essential..
but along the way there are guides and wayshowers.
Ive met a few in this lifetime.
Probably the first was my mother
when she taught me to put my food in my mouth
instead of my ear.
They are there if you are receptive and want to meet them
they do not appear as you think they might.
Into the highest reaches of expression
they are there.

I do not know absolutley if the NINE or the ELDERS are real.
But Ive always suspected that there are intelligences
way way beyond our own.
and those guides who served me
with patience and compassion
have shown me the reality of this
After all that is where I aspire to be
Where I have always aspired to be
sitting within the proverbial thown of consciousness
creating new realities
and
The lineages have always been known
by the students on their journey
One can view them as oppressors
like a resentful child
or as wayshowers
unfolding before us potential realites

I dont know what the hidden hands stuff is
but I do know the power of asking permission
to ask for permission is not a limiting construct
nor a subserviant groveling
is a format of consciousness that humbly acknowledges
that at long last you are ready
"ask and you shall receive
knock and it shall be opened"
in reality
the only entity you are really asking permission from
is yourself
When you ask the doors of creation can fling open
Until you really understand that
its like you are in daycare.
Being watched over so you dont run into the street
and get hit by a big truck
Our potectors are all around
Got a bad protector?
Ask your wayout of it
Ask yourself your own way out.



That there are 24 guys way up there on Jacobs ladder is no surprise to me
and 9 guys even above them
Its all within the realm of possibilities
Becasue they may exist is no reflection
on ones current bondage.
If you are in bondage
there is no fault but thine own
You have to earn your way out of it
through your own self revelation
Potential realities are mirrored to us
We choose what door we walk through

[Billy]

Posted by music (here)
Hierarchy? Hidden Hands? Asking of permission? Hmmm, misdirection and mind control if you ask me. There is no hierarchy except the hierarchy of ignorance of our true natures. We are all one, and we are all God. There is no council of elders to advise us, but there is plenty of counsel available to us that wishes to steer us into a neat little box where they can harvest the fruits of our labours. Wake up folks, wake up. We do not need advice, we do not need structure, we do not need anything except the realisation that we are perfect. The historical Christ, for example, was a human embodiment of the energy we call the Christ Consciousness. I have had a personal relationship with this energy since my first full vision at age 7. This energy is a feminine energy, but what does the human enforced structure of religion make of this energy? It masculinises it and makes it a part of the trinity of lies which denies the feminine principle (and so cuts us off from our power. There is no enclave of grey-bearded men who are going to do your work for you. The time to seek father (or mother) figures is gone. Self-empowerment, self realisation. Otherwise know as unity consciousness and Love. There is no love in organised religions or any type of hierarchical structure. Pyramids, pyramids, pyramids - from our governments, from our religions, from our work places, in our armies, in our families.

Reclaim your power.

Reclaim your self.

It's scarey, but hey, we can do it.

I love you all.

Hi Music, If you had taken just a little time to study the OP and the rest of this thread. You would have noticed that we are mostly in agreement. Apart from the Elders, They exist, I have also had a very close relationship with the Christ since a child. Not through any religions or church. But very personal.

Again if you took the trouble to read, This thread and the information is about reclaiming you're power. Taking responsibility and taking action.

And i agree. It is a big call, But we can do it.

Peace be with you.

[Arrowwind]

So, Billyjii, is this the same NINE and Tom as communicated via Uri Geller? from a couple of different perspectives:

http://www.uri-geller.com/books/maverick/maver8.htm
http://www.uri-geller.com/nine.htm
http://www.illuminati-news.com/council-of-nine.htm

[lookbeyond]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Yes, reclaiming our power is essential..
but along the way there are guides and wayshowers.
Ive met a few in this lifetime.
Probably the first was my mother
when she taught me to put my food in my mouth
instead of my ear.
They are there if you are receptive and want to meet them
they do not appear as you think they might.
Into the highest reaches of expression
they are there.

I do not know absolutley if the NINE or the ELDERS are real.
But Ive always suspected that there are intelligences
way way beyond our own.
and those guides who served me
with patience and compassion
have shown me the reality of this
After all that is where I aspire to be
Where I have always aspired to be
sitting within the proverbial thown of consciousness
creating new realities
and
The lineages have always been known
by the students on their journey
One can view them as oppressors
like a resentful child
or as wayshowers
unfolding before us potential realites

I dont know what the hidden hands stuff is
but I do know the power of asking permission
to ask for permission is not a limiting construct
nor a subserviant groveling
is a format of consciousness that humbly acknowledges
that at long last you are ready
"ask and you shall receive
knock and it shall be opened"
in reality
the only entity you are really asking permission from
is yourself
When you ask the doors of creation can fling open
Until you really understand that
its like you are in daycare.
Being watched over so you dont run into the street
and get hit by a big truck
Our potectors are all around
Got a bad protector?
Ask your wayout of it
Ask yourself your own way out.



That there are 24 guys way up there on Jacobs ladder is no surprise to me
and 9 guys even above them
Its all within the realm of possibilities
Becasue they may exist is no reflection
on ones current bondage.
If you are in bondage
there is no fault but thine own
You have to earn your way out of it
through your own self revelation
Potential realities are mirrored to us
We choose what door we walk through

So beautifully put Arrowwind


lookbeyond

[music]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by music (here)
Hierarchy? Hidden Hands? Asking of permission? Hmmm, misdirection and mind control if you ask me. There is no hierarchy except the hierarchy of ignorance of our true natures. We are all one, and we are all God. There is no council of elders to advise us, but there is plenty of counsel available to us that wishes to steer us into a neat little box where they can harvest the fruits of our labours. Wake up folks, wake up. We do not need advice, we do not need structure, we do not need anything except the realisation that we are perfect. The historical Christ, for example, was a human embodiment of the energy we call the Christ Consciousness. I have had a personal relationship with this energy since my first full vision at age 7. This energy is a feminine energy, but what does the human enforced structure of religion make of this energy? It masculinises it and makes it a part of the trinity of lies which denies the feminine principle (and so cuts us off from our power. There is no enclave of grey-bearded men who are going to do your work for you. The time to seek father (or mother) figures is gone. Self-empowerment, self realisation. Otherwise know as unity consciousness and Love. There is no love in organised religions or any type of hierarchical structure. Pyramids, pyramids, pyramids - from our governments, from our religions, from our work places, in our armies, in our families.

Reclaim your power.

Reclaim your self.

It's scarey, but hey, we can do it.

I love you all.

Hi Music, If you had taken just a little time to study the OP and the rest of this thread. You would have noticed that we are mostly in agreement. Apart from the Elders, They exist, I have also had a very close relationship with the Christ since a child. Not through any religions or church. But very personal.

Again if you took the trouble to read, This thread and the information is about reclaiming you're power. Taking responsibility and taking action.

And i agree. It is a big call, But we can do it.

Peace be with you.

Excellent and aware reply, thank you. And thank you for taking the time to point out my error. I'm afraid it was one of those red-rag moments coupled with a lack of time. Please accept my apology, because it is sincere: sorry

[Billy]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
So, Billyjii, is this the same NINE and Tom as communicated via Uri Geller? from a couple of different perspectives:

http://www.uri-geller.com/books/maverick/maver8.htm
http://www.uri-geller.com/nine.htm
http://www.illuminati-news.com/council-of-nine.htm

Hi Arrowwind. First, thank you for you're beautiful expression in you're previous post above.

Yes this is the same Nine. Concerning the links you provided. I say this one is genuine with little personal negative interpretations.http://www.uri-geller.com/books/maverick/maver8.htm

The other two links are both the same article. The writer did not resonate with me and his negative judgmental comments are nonsense. The racist comment comes from his own twisted interpretation. Tom does not say that the Black African race has no divinity within them. But that they are the purest humans here on earth.

Not like the white mongrels who arrived much later. gnashing their teeth and because of greed, power and control, destroyed the way of life of the ancient indigenous pure races around the planet. (My thoughts)

Yes there seemed to be an interest in the Nine from people like Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek. and other prominent people. I see no problem with this interest.

I found this quote in the article quite interesting.

Quote:
This should concern us, because many influential people attended The Nine’s Esalen seminars, including Russians who were part of the Institute’s Soviet Exchange programme. Some of these later rose to prominence in the Gorbachev regime and were instrumental in the downfall of Communism. (The Esalen Institute now runs the US branch of the Gorbachev Foundation.)
End Quote:

If the Nine had an influence in bringing down the Berlin Wall of Division. Good on them.

Peace

[Billy]

Posted by music (here)
Excellent and aware reply, thank you. And thank you for taking the time to point out my error. I'm afraid it was one of those red-rag moments coupled with a lack of time. Please accept my apology, because it is sincere: sorry

No problem my friend.

Peace

[Billy]

Continuing with Tom describing the ongoing problem that humanity creates in this very dense physical world .The solution to the problem is " The Acceleration of Humanity's Consciousness" At this time. That will be my next post.


Tom: Yes. Much truth has been destroyed to keep the masses in control. People, organisations of government and religion do not suppress any manner of thing unless it is a threat to them, or unless it is truth. Is that not so?
This is the Others at work, since they understand the energies of all creation, and how to use it to make themselves look like God, in order to keep humankind in bondage.

JOHN: In these days of accelerating changes, it seems that on Earth there is a negative reaction against change as well as a positive movement. what is your assessment of this?

Tom: When there is movement in forwardness, all that has been wishes to remain as it was. That is an element within humankind: a portion of humankind has fear, not knowing the future, and also wishes not to give up the known factor. Therefore you have that aspect of negativity. You also have the aspect of negativity from those in power who wish to maintain control and manipulation over others. However, in our assessment it is a remnant that appears to be holding firm, and when its life is being threatened it maintains a stranglehold.

Tom: There is within you - which there is in all upon Planet Earth, in different degrees - an amount of negativity. Let us say that if you had a black spot of negativity on the all-white of purity, and then you permitted it to grow such that the white deteriorated, if you looked at the spot as being negativity within you, and accepted it, and permitted it to be dispersed with recognition, and if you thereby came to know your fears, this would be useful negativity. But if it grew out of proportion to your fear, then the Others are attempting to unbalance you.

If you are aware of this, remember this: you have a greater power, because you are in a physical existence, but also if you are consciously connected with us, you have an even greater power. When you come into knowledge, wisdom and truth, when all that is in the Universe is slowly beginning to be revealed, then those that desire to control Earth, in order to control the Universe, begin to create great difficulty for you. Coming into knowledge and truth does not make your path easier.

Remember this: to be in service is to pay for that service. For in truth, there are those that would like to remove your awareness and your knowledge. Respect them, do not laugh at them, but be firm in your faith, and they cannot deter you, nor harm you. If they create difficulty for you, then, with your mind, see yourself being swept from the ground to your head with our love, our light, and our joy in you. Do not hesitate to ask for help. Do not proudly do all by yourself. We cannot help if you do not ask.

We do not interfere in your free will. But even with all our love for those that are in service to us, and for the sake of all the souls upon Planet Earth, without your asking we cannot help. Be not as proud as Planet Earth has been, for much of its existence, acting independently and wishing to do so on its own. It is in togetherness that the planet Earth will come out of its bondage - togetherness with us, the civilizations in service and the souls in service upon Planet Earth.

JOHN: If people were left alone and there were no opposing forces, would they tend to do the right thing?

Tom: Yes. Humanity could overcome its own weaknesses, but these are exploited and increased by the opposing forces. There is temptation, greed and desire.

JOHN: How did this problem start in the first place, and how was it not checked earlier?

Tom: It happened because we were not aware of the problems that the physical would create, and we were unaware of the implications of feeling of heaviness and pleasure. We never interfere in free will, so we choose not to intervene, if possible, in what has developed.

We were not aware of this because this is the only planet in the Universe that has the physical qualities that create this problem. It does not have a sister planet nor a brother planet.

The problem is created within the soul of the individual. The planet is a dense planet, and it in turn then gives a different feeling to the body, but it is actually within the soul of the individual. It feels pain, it feels pleasure, it feels sorrow, it feels happiness.

The physical body has different feeling than in all the other planets and in all the other souls that exist. In other systems, other galaxies, there are other physical beings that do not have the density of this planet. Here the soul begins to feel in a different way from the way it felt before, and it has the feel of desire. It has pleasure and pain. Yet this has become very important for the evolutionary growth of the planet, because it was originally the planet of balance.

IRENE: It feels that things are moving quickly, [1989]. There is a balance being affected that those of us who live in the third dimension can't see. What's happening?

Tom: Do you understand the concept that if the awakening comes in its own time there is total destruction and if it comes with acceleration then there is salvation. You have begun the acceleration. It must continue. You also noticed that there is more fanaticism?

JOHN: Yeah.

Tom: That is slowly being dissipated. Yes. The most important thing is for it to be released, for in suppressing it, it grows more violent. Yes.

IRENE: But isn't it also true that as we move forward, the Others...

Tom: Are moving in forwardness towards you, yes.

IRENE: They an- attempting to do whatever they can to maintain the imbalance on their side. Fanaticism is one of the tools that they are using..

Tom: That is correct. We have been with you in your sorrows and despairs and agony. And we have also been with you in your joys and your laughs.
At times, in your conscious mind there were doubts that perhaps you would not be able to complete your task, nor benefit those you wish to benefit, nor sustain an emotion to help and serve.

We will explain one more thing necessary for your complete understanding. You have doubted yourself, you have doubted your ability and you have doubted that you have the power to accomplish what your soul prompts you to accomplish. From this moment we ask you to remove your doubts. You have the power and love and strength to prevent chaos, tragedy, and loss of life upon your planet - we mean this with all that we are, and we ask you to remove your doubt.


ANDREW: Thank you for that strong reassurance. We do live with doubts, questions, and it is based on the fact that we cannot see the results of our work. For example in our meditations we do everything we can to respond to the needs you describe, but at this moment we have no way of knowing whether we are indeed effective or not. And that is the basis of our doubts, I would say.

Tom: We understand, but there will come a time when even that doubt will be removed. But may we ask you to hold within your heart the faith that you hold in knowing us and knowing that this Universe is not operated by chance nor simply what many of the people on Planet Earth call 'Nature'. May we ask you to remove the doubt that you have with in you? Do you understand?

ANDREW: Yes. I understand, and I think it's a very pointed lesson.

End Quotes:


To be continued. Until next time.

Peace be with you.

[Arrowwind]

The above was written in 1989.

From my viewpoint of the world, fantatism has only increased in leaps and bounds since 1989, both on the maco and micro level. The year I watched the Berlin wall come down on TV was the time I periodically ducked bullets wizzing past my home in South Dallas, from 89 to 92 when we moved from there.

The fanatism of Hitler has only been replaced by the fanatcicsm of the secret operations of the US government, Corporations, pharmaceutical industries, etc, and the governement in and of itself.
which has caused the deaths of a million or more since this 1989 writing. 9/11 and the consequent unfoldment of events that even today are sounding the war drums for Syria as they are "known to have weapons of mass destruction" (Hilary Clinton Nov. 2012)....and Iran as well... sound familiar?.. just like Iraq.

Terrorism abounds from many fronts around the world. I consider Terrorism and Fanatism essentially the same in vibrational quality. Fanaticsm functions by scaring the proverbial sh^t out of people into compliance. Terrorism requires a high level of Fanaticsm to fuel the fires of terror and war.

Fanaticsm is also abounding in the minds of US citizens. It is clearly seen in the Churchs of our nation (as only one example)... a growing movement crying for Armageddon and the fullfillment of the Pat Robertson Bible scenario. Private money pours into Israel for this very reason. US is sending Israel 17 Billion this year. Israel continues with its tactic of terrorism on Palestine by building once again on West Bank, and by routinely incarcerating and kiling Palestinian peoples on their way to work in Jerusalem.

So far I do not see that fanatism is being dissappated. Nor do I see that the world is a safer place by any means since 1989, especially here in the USA regarding safety. Although there is more "security' implemented, there is less safety. The tendency for violence is much increased amongst its citizens compared to the 60's. I sense that blood bath demonsatrations may lie in our future, so unlike the antiwar protests of the 60's and 70's if and when the people decide to rise up against its oppressor.

1. What is the timeline for this dissapation of fanaticsm? Is this a direct inverse ratio to the raising of consciousness? or it is that as consciousness raises so does the opposing negative force until everything either implodes or explodes?


"IRENE: But isn't it also true that as we move forward, the Others...
Tom: Are moving in forwardness towards you, yes."

The above quote pretty much answers the question. The more we evolve the more conflict there will be as the Others endeavor to inflict more control with excellerating intensity as conscious people everywhere excellerate their intensity.


2. Who is currently channeling Tom these days? or information from the NINE?

[Arrowwind]

Since Andrija Puharich was so involved with the NINE one may be interested to see this thread I put up a few days ago, just as an aside, to further expand the understanding ofsome of the people involved with the NINE and the work that they do. I did not readily see the connection when I put the post up, but clearly do now.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...427#post594427

[Arrowwind]

Posted by billyji (here)
To be continued. Until next time.

Peace be with you.

I am waiting ... although not so patiently. I am hoping that a time frame of opportunity opens for you and that you will be posting soon.

[Billy]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
To be continued. Until next time.

Peace be with you.

I am waiting ... although not so patiently. I am hoping that a time frame of opportunity opens for you and that you will be posting soon.

Hi Arrowwind. You may have missed this comment i posted last week.

Posted by billyji (here)
A New Direction.

Hi guys, I was house/pet sitting a week ago and had 24/7 internet connection, Which was great, but now i am limited again to visiting the post office for my connection.

I am sorry but i do not have an internet connection in my caravan where i live. I have to travel to the post office for a connection. Some work has also come my way. Which is great news. But by the time i finish work and travel home, The post office is closed in my small community.

Can i ask what it is you are waiting for??

Peace.

[Billy]

Continuing the chapter titled life on earth. After this chapter the topic will be . Accelerating Earth Evolution.

Chapter 7. Life on earth.

Tom: May we explain to you that your planet Earth is the most beautiful that exists in the Universe. It has a physical variety that no other planet has. In all the Universe there is no planet in existence that has the physical characteristics of Earth. It is the rarest of beauties, and it does attract souls which, once they have come, would continually like to come back again.

It is of a different nature from any other planet. It has within it portions of all planets in the Universe, it is like a composite of the Universe, with all the good and all the evil and it is what attracts souls. It has with it a gravitational pull that is different from other planets, and because of this a soul begins to feel - in truth - a physical body - they become in their minds adapted to their physical bodies, and they forget the freedom and pleasures they have without it.

The Earth was created to be a paradise. When souls achieve harmony it will become a paradise again. But when we say a paradise we speak of a paradise of creativity, one that brings knowledge, one that brings joy and love; a paradise in which people may heal themselves or may even experience pain, if they wish. It is not a paradise where all challenge, all growth, or all pain will be removed.

It will be a paradise where people, through their own experience, may evolve their own understanding of their connection with the Universe, accept their own responsibility for themselves, for their fellows, for Earth, and therefore for the Universe, and may bring all of that, including themselves, into perfection. Humankind needs to understand the uniqueness and purpose of Earth, and the directness that it has in its evolution. Humankind needs to understand that it is not alone and there is no death

What people must begin to understand is that there is no escaping, for in the future of their lives there must be payment. If they also knew that each of them has the quality of greatness in them, and that they have opportunity to be uplifted in joy, and that when there is acceptance of not being alone and of no death, then energies of fear may be released, and energies of joy may replace fear, then Earth may begin to fulfill its position in the Universe.
As well as Earth becoming the greatest of joy, we related before that Earth has the greatest of beauty.

When we say 'beauty' we mean that of the soul which then penetrates the external. Mankind has confused physical beauty as what is seen with the outer shell of the eye; not that of the inner soul of the planet or those that exist upon it. That is also what humanity must learn upon Earth.

JOHN: Could you explain what the purpose of physical existence is, particularly on this planet?

Tom: This your planet is a planet of balance, for you to learn to balance between the physical and spiritual worlds. Earth is the only one of its kind, the only planet of free choice in the entire Universe, the only planet created for the balancing of the spiritual with the physical, in other words, the creating of paradise.

Humanity has created corruption within, which came about because people became more involved in physicalness than in attempting to balance and understand. But now your planet is at a point where it may move out of balance quicker than at any other point. This time of history that you are in is the time of change. It is time for humanity to begin to understand this, to live on this planet of great beauty with a true balance of spiritual and physical, and to live in unity with the Creator, in manifestation of love, in connection with the Creator, in that which was created.

Tom: People in their innermost know, or have a feeling, that they are from something other than just themselves but people upon Earth have gone into competition with the Creator. We understand this, for people understand that there is a nature within them that all things, but they neglect to identify and know the Creator. They alone wish to be the Creator. It cannot be. The problem we have had before is that many times we have been to Earth: we have come to help, and it was expected of us to do what we cannot do, what this planet must do for itself. You are a part of this planet because you chose it in order to help it.

JOHN: I really want to say, speaking for myself, that I do really accept the responsibility that we have to do things for ourselves. It's just that we get a lot of complications and difficulties in living on Planet Earth.

Tom: In your world things are very simple, but people make them very complicated. If you approach things in a simple manner, many things can be overcome and accomplished with a great deal of acceleration, and with not too much use of energy. The worry and the concern burns up more energy than the activity of dealing with the problem.

ANDREW: So here we are on Earth, just a tiny speck of dust in this infinite, vast Universe. Could you tell us why you've taken any interest at all in this little speck of dust here called the Earth?

Tom: In order for the Universe to evolve, it is important for Earth to evolve. The souls that have come to this planet have become irresponsible in their physical bodies. It has become a planet of desire. The souls that are here behave as if they were in quicksand and were being gobbled up and swallowed in this desire. It is important for you to evolve, because without this planet being evolved, the other planets in the Universe are not able to go forward. It has stopped the growth of the Universe.

It is important for the level of consciousness of this planet to be raised. It is the love from this planet that generates the energy that feeds God. And this planet has stopped the growth of part of the Universe, instead of evolving in the manner it should, to become one with the Divine. I will explain one step further: many of these souls that live here, when they die, are trapped in the atmosphere of the planet, and then they are reborn over and over on the same world, and they seem to be going nowhere.

This planet originally was created to teach balance between the spiritual and the physical world. But in this physical world they got involved in materialism, and so these beings never evolve beyond the belt of this planet. Their desires are still in their minds and emotions, and their desires hold them to this planet, and so you have a multiplication that is going on until this planet will sink.


ANDREW: Is that why we have so many souls piled up on this planet they just can't get beyond it?

Tom: They cannot get beyond it because of desire, greed, hate, because of enjoying their physical pleasures. And we have no objections about their physical activities on this planet: it is when this becomes their primary concern, and they are no longer concerned with evolving the planet, their fellow humans, or finding their divinity. You explained this when we listened to you the other day when you called it a 'bottleneck'. We just consulted and decided that if we looked in a bottle, and if there were a plug, and we could not get it out, that's exactly what this planet is. Your description was correct.

ANDREW: Thank you. Could you explain why it is so important that a few humble beings like ourselves, who are all very simple creatures, or others like us, can really help to unplug this bottleneck?

Tom: The energy that surrounds you creates a vortex that then radiates out, and then can raise the consciousness of this planet. Even though you feel it is an impossible task, it is not an impossible task. You people chose this situation, you willingly gave yourselves to come back unto this dense, heavy Earth.

People like you have reincarnated on this planet many times, often not because it was necessary, but because you needed to understand and to get the feel of this planet, in order to raise its level of consciousness. With this energy, it creates a vortex of love and peace and harmony, and others will gravitate towards you, so that you may explain to them to help raise the level. Everything needs an energy base. We are energy, and through people like you this planet will be saved. We work through people.

That which was planned for the planet Earth did not come to pass. While it was discovered that, of all the planets in the Universe, it has more beauty, more diversification of changes than any other, it was also discovered that those that lived upon Earth had a great physicalness that was not witnessed on the other planets.

JOHN: I am a little confused as to where the physicalness came from.

Tom: From the gravity and the heaviness and the density of the Planet, and the senses through which you have the feeling of Earth. These do not exist on other inhabited planets. Souls on Earth began to feel that they had a substance they did not feel on other planets. You understand your forms of breeding?

JOHN: Sex, you mean?

Tom: Sex in the beginning was a form for breeding, and also it was given sensations within the physical body to make it more joyous. But it began to become a priority over the years, and the beginning of control of one human by another. That form of control does not exist on other planets. This heightened the intensity of desire within the subconscious and in the minds of souls that reincarnated on planet Earth. Desire of this kind is not in existence on other planets – it is therefore of great importance that Planet Earth moves into balance.

There is no objection in the Universe for this method of breeding, for that was a decision that this was the way that the planet Earth would re-populate itself. What was an objection is that it became the source of all priorities, and that it came to control all the souls. For if you look upon all those that exist upon Planet Earth, it is the one source that creates much of the difficulty, is it not?

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Peace be with you.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by billyji (here)
I am sorry but i do not have an internet connection in my caravan where i live. I have to travel to the post office for a connection. Some work has also come my way. Which is great news. But by the time i finish work and travel home, The post office is closed in my small community.

Can i ask what it is you are waiting for??

Peace.

I am wondering who is channeling Tom or the NINE these days... and then also to read more of these channelings.
Also, can you tell us about any connection of the NINE to the Alice Bailey materials?

[Billy]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

I am wondering who is channeling Tom or the NINE these days... and then also to read more of these channelings.
Also, can you tell us about any connection of the NINE to the Alice Bailey materials?

Hi Arrowwind. I would say these days, everybody and their cats say that they are communicating with the Council of Nine. Council of 7, 6, 12, The whitewinged council of 9. And on it goes, Personally i say the older the fiddle, The sweeter the tune. Otherwise it becomes complicated, I have read some of Alice Bailey works with the Tibetan. I enjoyed what i read but i did not connect Alice with Phyllis.

I came to know of the nine through my passion to know and understand " Who the 24 Elders" were mentioned in Revelations, And from my personal experiences and research, When "The only planet of choice" came my way in 2005. What i read, complimented the knowledge i had already gained. As I mention in the OP of this thread.

I think you're new thread here https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...427#post594427 Researching the life of Andrija Puharich would be very interesting.

Peace