The Great Western mistake about 21st 12. 2012.

[Tony]

The Great Western mistake about 21st 12. 2012.


This is the Mayan culture's calendar, for the Mayans!
In the West when they hear the word 'end' they think it means destruction,
when the end of a cycle is only the beginning of the next cycle...the next day, month or 10.000 years.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3v67pxeizXo

For us the 21st 12. 2012, is the day after the 20th and the day before 23rd.
Now go and enjoy life!

[johnf]

I think this is a manifestation of the same denial of change connected to death. We pretty up our dead, before we bury them.
Maybe it is as simply as fear of change, attachment to a fantasy of stability, that would come from some magic idea. We must defend democracy, we must be a christian nation. It takes many forms this drive for a one and only solution to make all the bad go away.

[Tony]

Just think of the money that has been made out of this!

......and all those pundits that have spent their time in front of a microphone. ...doom doom doom.

[Cidersomerset]

Nothing is going to happen on Dec 21st as far as I'm concerned. David Icke said a few years ago, nothing in his research
led him to believe anything is going to happen. According to Ion the 21 Dec 2012 was last year and infact we are in 2013.
I feel no bad vibes and never have, whether thats an omen, we will soon find out ..LOL..

Anyway I just saw this item on RT which is interresting from China .


The concept is quite good a cheap form of life raft, that could be massed produced for poor
villages.Towns on the coasts vulnerable to Tsunamis or other natural disasters...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lXJXN98hNrE

Published on 13 Dec 2012


As people across the globe tremble in anticipation of next week's supposed Mayan-predicted
apocalypse, one Chinese villager says he may have just what humanity needs: tsunami-proof
survival pods. Camouflage-clad former farmer and furniture maker Liu Qiyuan, 45, inspected
his latest creation, a sphere several metres tall he calls "Noah's Ark", designed to withstand
towering tsunamis and devastating earthquakes.


Heres a better version with sound....

Actually he says he has not sold any yet , but just as we have life
rings by our rivers. There must be a market for something like
this sponcered by the UN.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xd9Y-DldvJ8

Published on 13 Dec 2012


As people across the globe tremble in anticipation of
supposed Mayan-predicted apocalypse, one Chinese
villager says he may have just what humanity needs:
tsunami-proof survival pods. Duration: 02:29


https://youtube.com/watch?v=-3Pj5emD30Q

[DeDukshyn]

I've been studying ancient Americans for some time. There never was any Doomsday!! No Apocalypse!! No end of the world!! I still cannot fathom where that crap came from!! (actually it came form the "Elite" to create global fear on that day specifically -- it is all about the fear for them, to "counteract" something I won't go into here -- Which is why the also perform their Satanic rituals on that day -- different story for a different thread tho )

The Mayan calendar ends on the 21st, oooohh! My calendar ends on the 31st!! Does that mean doomsday!!?? The end of Time!!?? No it means I will get a NEW calendar for the NEW cycle!!! HAHAhahahahahahah!!!!


Sooo silly our addictions to fears are .........

[thalox]

I believe as well that it is a change in a cycle. Arent we going into the age of Aquarius? every 2600 years or so.

also, i have my own change of cycles. I made it a new thing for me to start MY new years on my birthday. it only makes it logical to me that everyones new years are different.

so my new year just came a few weeks ago.

[Hervé]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I've been studying ancient Americans for some time. There never was any Doomsday!! No Apocalypse!! No end of the world!! I still cannot fathom where that crap came from!!

[...]

Probably came from smoking GMO mushrooms :


From http://www.inquisitr.com/432423/maya...-civilization/:


‘Mayan Apocalypse’ Started With A Bad 70s Mushroom Trip, Not Ancient Civilization

Posted: December 10, 2012



This might assuage your Doomsday 2012 fears before December 21 comes and goes without a hitch. One British academic says that the ancient Mayan Apocalypse prophecies are only about as ancient as the 1970s, and that they had some psychedelic help entering the zeitgeist.

“December 21st will be just another Friday morning,” said Andrew Wilson, Assistant Head of Social Studies at the University of Derby. He says that the Mayan Apocalypse prophecy didn’t come from ancient civilization, and that the idea is hardly older than 30-40 years, give or take. Two New Age books in the 70s and 80s are to blame for our apocalyptic fears. The books detail an “upgrade” to human consciousness, predicted by a spirit from the seventh century, and that the whole thing came about from a magic mushroom trip, reports Yahoo.


“A hippy guru called Jose Arguelles associated the date with the Mayan calendar in a book called The Mayan Factor in 1987. But it’s an obsolete form of the calendar, which had not been used since the year 1100AD.”

“He claimed to be channelling various spirits, including the spirit of a Mayan king from the seventh century. He predicted a ‘shift in human consciousness’ – mass enlightenment.” The December 21 date appeared in a 1975 book by Terence McKenna, a writer who is also infamous for strange descriptions of “machine elves” he saw while he was tripping balls.

“The significance of December 21, 2012 in ‘New Age’ circles emerged from the work of ‘ethnobotanist’ Terence McKenna as he travelled deep into the Amazon in the 1970s,” says Wilson. “His calculations of a ‘zero time wave’ suggested the world would go through a large change on December 21.”

“Arguelles, who had a long-held interest in Native American spiritualties, was inspired by McKenna’s work. He popularized the date in connection with the ‘long count calendar’ of the Mayan people in his new-age circles.”

The idea evolved, and became something of a catch-all for random apocalyptic hypotheses like the “Planet X” conspiracy and the idea that Earth will be swallowed by a black hole.

“There is no central belief,” says Wilson, “It varies from the ideas that Earth’s magnetic poles might shift, to the idea of a ‘galactic council’ visiting Earth. There’s no one, definite idea – it mirrors the New Age beliefs from which it comes.”

“It’s become part of a lot of religious movements. For instance, ‘The Galactic Federation of Light’ believes that ‘Planet X’ will make a close pass by the earth in 2012 – causing a deep transformation of human life on Earth.”

“What this and other apocalyptic dates have in common across new religious movements is that they are often predicted to occur within a believer’s lifetime – making their beliefs urgent and important,” said Wilson.

“However, most people who believe in the significance of December 21, 2012 have tempered their predictions of an apocalypse to, instead, signifying some significant change in humanity. Whether that is a change in culture or a world-wide event – most believers in an apocalypse won’t be preparing for an earthly end but looking forward to an imminent transformation.”

“A lot of people look to this story for reassurance – about the financial climate, or even about fears of, for instance, the Large Hadron Collider.”

“What’s been popularised is the dramatic stuff – but I am definitely still doing my Christmas shopping as normal this year.”

Wilson’s paper, ‘From Mushrooms to the Stars,’ will be published by Ashgate in 2013, well after the world doesn’t end.

There you go. The Mayan Apocalypse came from a giant mushroom trip.

[DeDukshyn]

Well, it's definitely been a witches brew brewing up the "doomsday!"

I think it sure identifies the current fear based thinking of modern man ...

[Tony]

There will always be influences on us, but in our hearts we stay the same.
The more challenging the times, the faster the progress.


Always be at peace, even when things seem complex outside.

[apokalypse]

one thing i hate about this is people wanted to happen and manifested to happen on mainstream by keep saying that word Doomsday-End of the World...there never been about end of bloody world to begin with. never been about those those 2 word but they keep mention it and we in here Avalon forum should know better.

[christian]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
For us the 21st 12. 2012, is the day after the 20th and the day before 23rd.

20, 21, 23...

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by christian (here)

20, 21, 23...

Ahhh! the end of the Buddhist Calendar must be the on the 22nd! ...

Yer secrets out Pie!

[Twinsel]

Anybody familair with the work from John Major Jenkins, and his understanding of the Mayan city called 'Izapa' and why it is build?
I tried to get into it, but for some reason i can't.
I like the readings from Ian Xel Lungold about the Mayan Calendar (can't give any links because on my work and it's all blocked :/ ).
However he claims the end was 28 nov. 2011 based on the work from the Swedish doctor/writer/investigator Carl Calleman, i find the readings very interesting and has a positive vibration to me.

[The Truth Is In There]

civilizations here on earth have come and gone before, otherwise there wouldn't be 7 billion people here but maybe a hundred billion. these civilizations are experiments and if they don't work as intended they get terminated - think atlantis.

if the current experiment didn't turn out as intended either (which seems likely) and since a world age ends at this time it would make sense to terminate the current experiment now.

of course this may not happen from one day to the next but i'm convinced that it will happen during the coming years. the petri dish will be cleaned of a large number of the test organism (humanity) and a new experiment will be started with a reduced number of an enhanced version of the same species.