Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by musicadi (here)
So, here are the events (again):

22/9 - 31/9 - Hurricane SANDY
4/12 - 5:30 AM - King Edward VII hospital prank call, answered by Jacintha Saldanha
7/12 - c. 9:30 AM - Jacintha Saldanha is found dead
12/12 - 7:30 PM - 1:20 AM - the concert for SANDY relief, streamed and broadcast live on nearly EVERY major international TV station
14/12 - c. 9:35 AM -9:53 AM - murder at SANDY hook, the shooter's name: Adam LANZA=LANCE in Spanish (tipp: Lancelot)
14/12 - c. 8:30 PM - murder at hotel EXCALIBUR in Las Vegas
17/12 - c. 10:30 PM - the two GRAIL spacecrafts will be crashed on the moon (tip: Holy Grail)

....anything else?

shooting at the Mayan theater last night...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
This is just crazy... the local paper reports talking to the school principal (later shot dead) on the phone while the shooting is going on.

Not mentioned elsewhere as far as I can see - the official story makes no sense... link below, copy it before it disappears.

http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012...mentary+School

Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

so she saw him enter the school?

on the phone with a reporter?

police channel must have put out an emergency call for immediate response heard by the reporters...

with everything going on, the secretary transferred the call from a reporter to the principal?

[Earth Angel]

this pretty much sums it up....

[Rocky_Shorz]

very strange, I was wondering who was behind this when I read the name and it morphed from Hochsprung, to KochSprung...

his University of Psychotic drugs...

his connection to the creation of the drug used in Bath Salts... the zombie drug...

destroying water tables, the air we breath and MKultra terror attacks?

both fathers testifying on Libor...

Showing the mother to be a crazy gun fanatic ready for financial collapse...

is this a warning to all elites that the shadows have the ability to take control of a child's mind and destroy, the family, community, hurt the emotions of a nation... Killing a child with their own actions... threatening to kill a child taken to monstrous extremes for blackmail...

Fulford says the Fed Reserve is going down, the announcement on the 13th on the New Moon and this to follow...

Indonesia...

Obama, and his gold ring...

Indonesia gold about to save the world...

this book we are living is getting exciting...

[norman]

Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

[shadowstalker]

Posted by norman (here)
Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

I am glad i am not the only one who caught that, thanks for the confirmation..

[Belle]

Regarding the calls for gun control...

Interesting article on the Oregon mall shooting found at http://www.examiner.com/article/medi...-armed-citizen

"Media Blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen"

From the article:

"While reports of Tuesday's shooting at the Clackamas Town Center Mall in Oregon, dominated the national media, until Friday's horrific shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, one very important detail has been repeatedly (and intentionally) left out of the MSM's coverage.

The shooter, Jacob Tyler Roberts, was confronted with an armed citizen, at which time he ran away and shot himself. By the time police arrived on the scene, Roberts was already dead."

More at above link.


Also included in the article...

"...are a few facts about armed Americans:

-In 1982, the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an ordinance which required all heads of household to have at least one gun in the house. The burglary rate immediately dropped an astounding 89 percent. Ten years after the law was passed, the burglary rate was still 72 percent less than it was in 1981.

-Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).

-A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rates by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent, and robbery by 3 percent.

-According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals, firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.

-A 1979 Justice Department study entitled Rape Victimization in American Cities, concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32 percent were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.

-Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running the police."

[SilentFeathers]

This is a clear example of how idiotic, ridiculous, stupid, and hypocritical some people are....

Some of the most extreme far left anti-gun people, who hate guns and want them ALL outlawed, are now calling for the president of the NRA and it's members to be....well,.....SHOT.

Hypocrisy at it's finest!

NRA Leaders and Members Getting Death Threats
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...reats-n1468555

[Carmody]

I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?

[Carmody]

Posted by norman (here)
Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

The initial report that I heard, concerning her situation, was that the shooter was asking to be let in. In a nice way (was the impression).

[Cidersomerset]

I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?

I agree its probably why positve ET's if they are monitoring are scared to land on the White House Lawn !!

By being greeted with a hail of bullets !


I am glad our society in the UK has few guns and I feel safe in my community.But things change , people
still die here by gunfire, and Northern Irland has been rumbling again.Also a 'false flag' could come
at anytime. Guns are not the only mass murder weapon, in Rwanda the Machette killed more than
bullets.....
Flooding the countries with weapons does not help, but its deeper than that, many countries
have lots of civil weapons, without these 'Lone white male killing machines' !! although don't be surprised
if the next attack is not 'black, brown or a woman' ! They know we are onto them !

On the radio this morning there was a report 10 girls were killed by a
land mine while collecting fire wood in Afghanistan....




Ten young girls have been killed by a landmine explosion in eastern Afghanistan, officials say.The children were collecting firewood when one of them accidentally struck the mine with an axe, according to Chapahar district governor Mohammad Seddiq Dawlatzai. The victims were aged nine to 13. Two other girls were critically injured and are being treated in hospital. "An old mine left over from the time of the jihad (against Soviet troops in the 1980s) exploded, killing 10 girls and wounding two others," Mr Dawlatzai said. However police chief General Abdullah Stanikzai said Taliban insurgents were to blame.Since 1989, when the Soviets withdrew after a 10-year military occupation, nearly 700,000 mines and more than 15m other explosives left over from decades of war have been destroyed, according to UN figures.But despite international clearance efforts, more than three decades of war have left Afghanistan one of the most heavily-mined countries in the world.

The explosives were laid during three recent conflicts: the 1980s war against the Russians, the 1990s civil war, and during fighting between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban before they were ousted from power in 2001.The Taliban also plant bombs, or improvised explosive devices, to target Afghan and Nato troops but these regularly kill civilians.Afghan President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly appealed to the insurgents as well as the Nato-led forces in Afghanistan to avoid civilian casualties.In the first six months of 2012, 1,145 Afghan civilians were killed and around 2,000wounded, mostly by roadside bombs. Women and children account for about 30% of this year's casualties.Meanwhile there are reports that one person has been killed and at least 30 injured in a blast in the capital Kabul.It happened outside the compound of US military contractor Contrack. Afghan police say the attacker drove a car packed with explosives into the compound's wall.




http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news...10_young_girls

[Flash]

yes collecting firewood for the survival of their family and dying from it by big men who have put on some bombs - I barely see the difference between situations

Certainly none from the children point of view now or from the parent's heart bleeding.

[Debra]

Just reading Michael Moore's facebook page at the moment - two threads specifically: Obama's speech to Newtown and Happy Birthday Bradley Manning.

What is fascinating is how roughly one half and maybe more of the readers responding to these threads, representing his 687,000 membership, are simply furious at Obama and his government. A huge sea change from a few weeks ago when there was an overwhelming show of support to return him into a second term. Moore was lobbying hard for that.

Today, according to the temperature on Moore's page, there is a very palpable belief that Obama and his administration are a gang of liars, criminal for ignoring the emerging facts and holes in this Sandy Hook case, and above all, hypocrites and international murderers.

I wonder if Moore is now being used as a litmus test on issues these days?
https://www.facebook.com/mmflint

[Flash]

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Bachmann saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

I bet anything that Obama's tears while giving his first speech had to do with the numerous threat he has received regarding his own children, ithreats from some nuts, but mostly threats from his inner circles (the one party govenrment)

[Cidersomerset]

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Buchanan saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

It does not make much difference....Romney might have quickened the pace to war with Iran . But Obamas record on military spending,Drone strikes etc is

worse than Bush....The agenda seems to be the "AGENDA" who evers in the Whitehouse !

[modwiz]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Buchanan saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

It does not make much difference....Romney might have quickened the pace to war with Iran . But Obamas record on military spending,Drone strikes etc is

worse than Bush....The agenda seems to be the "AGENDA" who evers in the Whitehouse !

It's like horsesh!t or dogsh!t. Horsesh!t doesn't smell as bad. I don't think Romney could fake a tear unless you closed up access to all of his offshore accounts. I think Obama would be more easy come, easy go, for his accounts. The hush money needs to go somewhere.

I wonder if he gets paid by the drone attack?

[Cidersomerset]

I wonder if he gets paid by the drone attack?

Yep !!!



I did post this earlier ....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SGV3nohWHgA

Published on 16 Dec 2012


Since the beginning of the war on terror, the US has poured trillions of dollars into defense spending and nation building. Although President George W. Bush kicked off the new policies abroad, Obama hasn't skipped a beat in continuing the same strategies. President Obama has exceeded his predecessor by authorizing nearly six times more drone strikes than Bush all in the name of the war on terror. RT's Liz Wahl has more
RT America LIVE http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/

[778 neighbour of some guy]

On the Dutch news they just called the shooters family a prepper family and made them sound like nutsjobs and the kid was destined to go on a killing spree being raised like that.

[TargeT]

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
On the Dutch news they just called the shooters family a prepper family and made them sound like nutsjobs and the kid was destined to go on a killing spree being raised like that.

yes, that seems to be a part of the narrative also... I'm involved with many "prepper" types & "nutjob" is the last word I would use for them.. some are "overly cautious" but not nuts, it's not crazy to think about possible natural disasters and prepare to take care of your family, especially with the MANY examples of failure on the part of FEMA & the government (isn't New Jersey still struggling from sandy?)

Posted by Carmody (here)
I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?

in your perfect world will bears and wolfs and moose leave me alone when I'm out hiking?

guns aren't just for crazy bipeds, there's plenty of crazy quadrupeds out there as well.

There's one, and ONLY one place you will find me 100% armed every time, & that is out on the rivers & trails of alaska; that is the only time I'm ALWAYS carrying a fire arm, around town it's more like 70% (or less if alcohol is going to be involved)

I listen to talk radio in the morning (can't stand the "music" today’s radio stations play repetitively), talk radio is predominantly "conservative" (Neo-con. more like it) and they were discussing how "crazy" alex jones was saying the government did this. I think this is the first time I've heard direct mudslinging of "alt" theory on a major Clearchannel (FOX NEWS) station.

The wheels seem to be loose on this one, the cart is wobbling.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
This is a clear example of how idiotic, ridiculous, stupid, and hypocritical some people are....

Some of the most extreme far left anti-gun people, who hate guns and want them ALL outlawed, are now calling for the president of the NRA and it's members to be....well,.....SHOT.

Hypocrisy at it's finest!

NRA Leaders and Members Getting Death Threats
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...reats-n1468555

I spoke with someone along those lines, ex hunter from years ago, sipping MSN koolaid...

said everyone with an assault rifle should turn them in or be shot...

I almost choked knowing who it is coming from...

lots of pain watching the funerals and stories of these innocent little kids...

when I lock and load, it will shake the world of those responsible for this false flag attack on our country, just to get guns banned...