David Icke 2012

[lunaflare]

thanks cider, always enjoy listening to david.
what's up with all the loud hypie music on the first video? too much and unnecessary. made me noivous!

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Tony]

It's all in Huxley's Brave new World!

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[araucaria]

It's the same old double bind. In ascribing to the ptb more power than they actually have, David Icke is himself giving them that power. They are the ones who thought they had to meet some deadline.

[ExomatrixTV]

~5 Epic David Icke Videos on 'The 2012 HypeNosis': http://whynotnews.eu/?p=1983

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~5 Epic David Icke Videos on 'The 2012 HypeNosis': http://whynotnews.eu/?p=1983

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~5 Epic David Icke Videos on 'The 2012 HypeNosis': http://whynotnews.eu/?p=1983

[Maunagarjana]

TPTB didn't need to hype anything with 2012, people did it just fine on their own. From the Sitchin Planet X pole shift people, to all the psychics and channelers and everyone and their mother coming up with their own pet vision of 2012, seems pretty grass rootsy to me. Think of all the books and lectures given on this topic in the alternative community alone. All the youtube videos from everything to Dolores Cannon to Kavassilas to Tolec to Wilcock to you name it. If that's the powers that be than they owe a lot of back pay to a lot of people who did their job for them.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
TPTB didn't need to hype anything with 2012, people did it just fine on their own. From the Sitchin Planet X pole shift people, to all the psychics and channelers and everyone and their mother coming up with their own pet vision of 2012, seems pretty grass rootsy to me. Think of all the books and lectures given on this topic in the alternative community alone. All the youtube videos from everything to Dolores Cannon to Kavassilas to Tolec to Wilcock to you name it. If that's the powers that be than they owe a lot of back pay to a lot of people who did their job for them.

Yeah...TPTB are evil, but I must give them credit for their smartness.

It´s mind boggling, I mean, how they manage to convince all these people to work for them, full time, for free and most of the times without even knowing they´re working from them.

This is just like Y2K indeed, with a spiritual twist...Think about how many people have spent their hard earned money with 2012 books, dvds and lectures...How much time people wasted watching 2012 videos and reading articles.

Think about how many people will be extremely disappointed when the date passes and nothing abnormal happens...How many humiliating "I told you so" people will hear from their closest friends and family, making them look like fools.

These folks, who work with dated predictions, selling false promises of a better world, are actually doing a disservice to humanity...The emotional damage these folks are causing is simply incalculable.

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

You know, I really like Icke.

I can feel he´s a honest man; Just by looking to his eyes and body language I can sense he´s completely different from 99% of the alternative media celebrities.

He speaks about really important and sane subjects, but there´s one thing I can´t understand, which is why he insists in this reptilian stuff...And he keeps calling everyone a reptilian, even his ex-wife, if I´m not mistaken.

There´s literally zero evidence of the humanoid reptilians. ZERO. People in the alternative media and community keep repeating this reptilian stuff over and over again, that´s almost considered a sacrilege to not believe their existence.

I find it very strange, because Icke seems to be a very grounded individual and the huge majority of things he talks about can be backed up either with scientific and historic evidence, except for the reptilian subject, which in my opinion is even comical.

It would be so good for his reputation if he just stopped talking about his almost insane obsession with reptilians...Then he would be like the perfect Alternative Media spokesman, with 100% credibility.

The reptilian stuff is the only reason people can find to ridicule him...People would take him much more seriously if he just kept his obsession to himself; Then he would reach a much larger audience, which is one of the most important factors in this "game".

Raf.

[Andreash94]

sincerly I stoped trusting icke for some months .... i prefer to read some saints (ortodox ones)and taoist way then all that crap he talks ,I mean whi hes not dead? and whi hes against god? ''I mean whi u fight with sombody who dont exist?'' thats the best qestion for an atheist or new age stupid belifs thats just my opinion


....btw morgan your signature it's the best:X

[we-R-one]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey mate,

You know, I really like Icke.

I can feel he´s a honest man; Just by looking to his eyes and body language I can sense he´s completely different from 99% of the alternative media celebrities.

He speaks about really important and sane subjects, but there´s one thing I can´t understand, which is why he insists in this reptilian stuff...And he keeps calling everyone a reptilian, even his ex-wife, if I´m not mistaken.

There´s literally zero evidence of the humanoid reptilians. ZERO. People in the alternative media and community keep repeating this reptilian stuff over and over again, that´s almost considered a sacrilege to not believe their existence.

I find it very strange, because Icke seems to be a very grounded individual and the huge majority of things he talks about can be backed up either with scientific and historic evidence, except for the reptilian subject, which in my opinion is even comical.

It would be so good for his reputation if he just stopped talking about his almost insane obsession with reptilians...Then he would be like the perfect Alternative Media spokesman, with 100% credibility.

The reptilian stuff is the only reason people can find to ridicule him...People would take him much more seriously if he just kept his obsession to himself; Then he would reach a much larger audience, which is one of the most important factors in this "game".

Raf.

You have to ask yourself, why he spends so much time talking about it if it wasn't true. What proof are you looking for? What would satisfy you as far as proof? I'm just curious. Obviously the MSM is not going to come out and make this claim. Most people who are reptilian aren't necessarily going to step out in the lime light and pronounce themselves as reptilian as I believe there are many who don't fully understand what they truly are. The human race is conditioned to believe only if the information comes from a person of authority. If a concept is not part of mainstream, than most will blow it off because it's not an "accepted" belief. So that's why I'm asking, what form of proof are you looking for?

Obviously you've never met one which could explain why you're having a difficult time believing in the validity, so I will share my story with you. I've had the fortunate experience of meeting four of them, but officially I'm going to say two as the other two I have not obtained sufficient support in my own mind that the remainder two are, but I believe it's highly possible due to many years of observations and specific characteristics. The other two who are, played very important roles in my life, one being my twin flame and the other being my father. I did not understand what they were until about a year ago when I began connecting dots during my awakening period. Below are characteristics of some people that have the Rh-negative factor in their blood, known to those who are considered Reptilian. These were traits that both my Twin Flame and father had in common. Not all of them, but most. Both have the rare blood type O.

* An EXTRA-Vertebra (a "Tail Bone")....some are born with a tail(called a "Cauda").
* Lower than normal Body Temperature
* Lower than normal Blood Pressure
* Higher mental analytical abilities.
* Higher Negative-ion shielding (from positive "charged" virus/bacteria)around the body.
* High Sensitivity to EM and ELF Fields.
* Hyper Vision and other senses.
* Etc. (TS-MAJIC-NSC)

I don't know what the last bullet point is referencing, haven't been able to figure that out. I believe I got these characteristics from a David Icke article, I'll have to go back and look.

Another characteristic is lack of empathy. These people literally do not "feel". They know they should feel empathy in particular situations, but they're not capable of feeling the emotions like most of us. I don't say this lightly, I was around both these people quite a bit, so I was able to experience their personalities and observe their behavior. When one doesn't feel empathy, they respond completely different than most, probably a better way of stating is, they don't respond at all. I can't imagine what that would be like....I mean to be void of emotions such as compassion, empathy and even love. Their behavior serves a purpose and now that I know what I know, I completely understand.

This is not about "labeling", I want to be clear about that. I get tired of people throwing around that phrase as a reason to dismiss the information. You have subcultures within the human race. The names are used for the purpose of identifying these subcultures. It's not about one sub-culture being better than the rest of the human population.

My Twin Flame and I had a very serious conversation about two years ago when I first was becoming aware of my star seed identity(another subculture within the human race- see the work of Dr. Scott Mandelker, PhD). This is when he began to talk to me about feeling different. I thought because we were twins, that he likely could be a star seed too, as he had similar psychic abilities as myself, but that's where the similarity stopped and it was very apparent that he was walking an opposite path from myself. Though we were literally mirroring one another in our daily experiences, which is common for Twin Flames, it became clear to me that he was playing the role of the dark and I was playing the role of the light. You see my twin was a former bankster....right there at the top...you cannot do the things he did without having the void of empathy. He would tell me how he would change from hot to cold. He always went "cold" when he had to do any type of unpleasant deed. He described himself to be similar to a chamelion!!!! It didn't click what he was revealing until about a year later when I was trying to assist him in handling all the fear he was feeling.....what he was trying to tell me that he didn't have words for(you see he has no frame of reference) was that he was shape shifting!

We all have to remember, just because we don't see something with our own eyes, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In our 3D world we are taught that if you can't see it, feel it, touch it, taste it, than it doesn't exist. This is a core belief system we have been indoctrinated with. If you want to get to the truth, you cannot base your decisions merely on the 5 senses. As many are discovering much of the truth lies outside of those 5 senses.

You see this is a game being played down here on earth, it's not real! You need this subculture of reptilians to play the dark roles. The point of being here is for soul evolution. What better way to create the game by injecting an estimated 4% of the population with the subculture of the reptilian human race. For me, I don't need a book to tell me that reptilians exist as I've lived it. I just didn't have a frame of reference or words to describe what I was experiencing till now. You can call them whatever you want, you can call star seeds whatever you want, the fact remains that we do exist and we have characteristics and traits that are different from others that have been identified by those who have spent entire lifetimes studying "our kind" or whatever you want to call us.

Each person has to be able to decide for themselves what kind of proof they seek. Some will never find the answers, because they refuse to identify what source will satisfy or authenticate what's considered to be real or not. But to say something doesn't exist, because one hasn't seen it, is not reasonable rationing, imo.

[RMorgan]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

* An EXTRA-Vertebra (a "Tail Bone")....some are born with a tail(called a "Cauda").
* Lower than normal Body Temperature
* Lower than normal Blood Pressure
* Higher mental analytical abilities.
* Higher Negative-ion shielding (from positive "charged" virus/bacteria)around the body.
* High Sensitivity to EM and ELF Fields.
* Hyper Vision and other senses.
* Etc. (TS-MAJIC-NSC)

Hello my friend,

Well, all these characteristics are quite common among regular humans, except for "Higher Negative-ion shielding (from positive "charged" virus/bacteria)around the body" which I have no idea if/how it can be observed.

By any means, a person with one or more of this characteristics can definitively be classified as reptilian.

If you´re talking about reptilians as some subtle, soul level characteristic, than it´s ok, it might be possible, since we don´t actually know how souls really work or where they come from.

However, David clearly refers to them as shapeshifting beings, who uses holograms or other artifices to look like humans, while they are in fact flesh and blood lizards; He talks about them as another species. This seems too far fetched to me, with all due respect.

Please, don´t get me wrong; As I stated in my above post, I really like David and I believe he´s honest.

I just think he should leave this reptilian subject on stand-by until he manages to gather some hard evidence about their existence, otherwise he would be just lecturing about a very weird personal belief while simultaneously opening the possibility to be ridiculed, which sadly compromises, from the general audience perspective, the integrity of his whole work.

As an example, let´s take a publicly trusted character like Einstein. Well, imagine what would happen to his reputation, back in the 20s, if he publicly attested he believed in Santa Claus and started lecturing about him...His whole work would probably be discredited since people would think he´s nuts.

I my opinion, sometimes you have to leave personal beliefs aside, specially when you´re a public figure dealing with scientific and historical subjects, trying to reach an as large as possible audience.

Each one of us have our own obsessions and weird beliefs; It´s ok. Now, lecturing about them in public as they were the most absolute facts, with no evidence to back them up, is a completely different thing.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Flash]

We-R-One: You see this is a game being played down here on earth, it's not real! You need this subculture of reptilians to play the dark roles. The point of being here is for soul evolution. What better way to create the game by injecting an estimated 4% of the population with the subculture of the reptilian human race. For me, I don't need a book to tell me that reptilians exist as I've lived it. I just didn't have a frame of reference or words to describe what I was experiencing till now. You can call them whatever you want, you can call star seeds whatever you want, the fact remains that we do exist and we have characteristics and traits that are different from others that have been identified by those who have spent entire lifetimes studying "our kind" or whatever you want to call us.

The "we" includes you We-R-One. In that case, how did you understand that "love" is the way, as I have seen in other posts of yours, in other threads. Your twin flame could not understand this, no empathy at all. Could turn from hot (passion) to cold, but no empathy (hot not meaning empathy but more thrill or passion). How, in your nature, could you turn around?

Reptilians are artists at faking it. What is Your role in all this?

I have never seen anybody shapeshift personnally, but I did have very close and prolongued encounter with someone as you describe, physically as well as mentally, including a tail bone remnant. They are very artsy at manipulation and at faking empathy or the like. But there is no mistake, this is not the truth. Sooner or later one can see it.

So, how come you do describe the love necessary to make the move for human regular human beings?.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
* Etc. (TS-MAJIC-NSC)

I don't know what the last bullet point is referencing, haven't been able to figure that out.

I associate those initials with Top Secret - Majestic 12 - National Security Council.

My search efforts keep finding material related to "rh negative factor" blood types.

But those are just possible pieces of this particular puzzle ... I don't know if they are the right pieces or how they fit together.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
* Etc. (TS-MAJIC-NSC)

I associate those initials with Top Secret - Majestic 12 - National Security Council.

According to this site http://www.sonoran-sunsets.com/yellowbook.html, MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all alien connected material, projects, and information. MAJIC means MAJI controlled.

In turn, MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. All information, disinformation, and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this agency. This agency is responsible for all disinformation and operates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence Agency. This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects are under its control. MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12.

P.S. -- this site purports to provide the Majestic 12 papers: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...ol_mj12_10.htm

[we-R-one]

Posted by Flash (here)

We-R-One: You see this is a game being played down here on earth, it's not real! You need this subculture of reptilians to play the dark roles. The point of being here is for soul evolution. What better way to create the game by injecting an estimated 4% of the population with the subculture of the reptilian human race. For me, I don't need a book to tell me that reptilians exist as I've lived it. I just didn't have a frame of reference or words to describe what I was experiencing till now. You can call them whatever you want, you can call star seeds whatever you want, the fact remains that we do exist and we have characteristics and traits that are different from others that have been identified by those who have spent entire lifetimes studying "our kind" or whatever you want to call us.

The "we" includes you We-R-One. In that case, how did you understand that "love" is the way, as I have seen in other posts of yours, in other threads. Your twin flame could not understand this, no empathy at all. Could turn from hot (passion) to cold, but no empathy (hot not meaning empathy but more thrill or passion). How, in your nature, could you turn around?

Reptilians are artists at faking it. What is Your role in all this?

I have never seen anybody shapeshift personnally, but I did have very close and prolongued encounter with someone as you describe, physically as well as mentally, including a tail bone remnant. They are very artsy at manipulation and at faking empathy or the like. But there is no mistake, this is not the truth. Sooner or later one can see it.

So, how come you do describe the love necessary to make the move for human regular human beings?.

Hi Flash,
So glad you asked! It's hard to type all this out and get the true meaning across. My experience growing up is the perfect, perfect example of the we-R-one mantra. Because my father lacked empathy, he was very cruel to me....remember my kundalini experience on "The Solutions" thread? He was the very reason why I had that kunalini which was obtained through thoughts of forgiveness, compassion and love. So here you have someone who played a dark role, so that I could experience my own spiritual awakening. My atrocity was a gift, not a curse as 3D thinking would like you to believe! Which is why I do not judge those who play dark roles as their purpose is to help awaken others so that they too may have their own spiritual awakening. So what I'm trying to say is, had my father not been heartless, I would have never learned the lesson. I'm so grateful, eternally grateful for the opportunity I've been given.....I mean think about it....can you imagine what it's like playing a dark role, where everyone hates you, judges you, picks you apart to no end. I was able to play the role of the light, because I chose to change the way I think, and I wouldn't have changed the way that I think had I not been taught the lesson by the one playing the dark role, my father. Had I not had this experience, I would have just gone on in life, playing a neutral role, not necessarily of light or the dark, but my soul growth would have been minimal.

You see, I didn't have the reptilian traits such as my Twin or father. And when I say twin...he wasn't a biological twin....I'm assuming you know what a Twin Flame is right? I did not experience the lack of empathy like they did, I don't have type O blood. My role in this lifetime was not one of the dark. That's another point I'm trying to get across. Many reincarnate several times over. For those who don't believe I suggest looking at the recent NDE of Dr. Eben Alexander a neurosurgeon and also look at the works of Dr. Walter Semkiw and his research institute. In some lifetimes you'll play dark roles and other lifetimes, you'll play roles of the light. This is how your soul learns and grows. Both roles are equally significant importance as one cannot exist without the other. Even in science you need both polarities, negative and positive...it's just how it is. So being the role of the light is not better than being the role of the dark...imo, it's actually easier than playing the role of the dark.

Because science will show you that we-r-one, through our connection via the energy fields, all souls have value and significance and there should be no judgment as one cannot exist without the other when playing the game of duality(dual meaning the two polarities). Your world down here on earth is an illusion as you are consciousness living an experience. The game of duality requires roles of the light and dark in order for the growth to take place. When you come to the realization of love, compassion, and forgiveness through whatever tragedy you've had to endure, this is the integration point. This is taking that negative experience and transmuting the energy to positive. This is why your are seeing so many people awakening as they are coming to the same conclusion which is why I felt it was important to create "The Solutions" thread identifying the movement that taking place.

Does that answer your questions? I'll try again if not....To understand what I'm saying, you have to have the belief system that reincarnation exists, and the understanding that you're consciousness. I personally feel there is more than enough evidence to prove the existence of both. This is difficult for many because it falls outside the 3D belief system that humans insist on conforming to.