It's December 21 2012 already in Indonesia,..NOTHING happen!..boring life as usual

[apokalypse]

i heard on radio there's people are ready for it...right now they in high grounds and bunkers.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
An apocalypse ... is a disclosure of knowledge, hidden from humanity in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation ...

The word currently has other, more common, meanings (quoting Google):

1. The complete final destruction of the world, esp. as described in the biblical book of Revelation.
2. An event involving destruction or damage on an awesome or catastrophic scale.

[kreagle]

Posted by apokalypse (here)
i heard on radio there's people are ready for it...right now they in high grounds and bunkers.

Now,....which 'state' is that located in?,.......Oh, yeah!,.....they call it 'the State of Confusion!'

[DeDukshyn]

Hehe, well I hope peoples fear get a little alleviated through all this, by just not having a doomsday.

My entire family awoke at the exact time of supposed galactic alignment last night, and a few other odd "feelings". What does this mean? Who cares! We made it past Doomsday!!! YAYY!! lol!, now let's get wasted!!! And carry a little more bounce in our step from this day forward; spread a little cheer, a little love ... find the "moment" of equilibrium.

[Nick Matkin]

Not my words, but I couldn't have put it better myself:

"Here's what really, REALLY annoys me about conspiracy nuts - they simply WILL NOT give us the satisfaction of appearing in public after one of their witless predictions goes tits-up to allow us to point and laugh openly. Aliens didn't land during the Olympic closing ceremony. There wasn't a huge 'false flag' terrorist attack on London 2012. The world hasn't ended because a new cycle of the Mayan calendar started. After wasting so many people's time and effort, at least take the shame."

Nick...

[niki]

now I'm seriously even starting to -sadly- doubt about almost ALL the things that this forum ever taught me, eg: is it true there is a "Higher Dimension" such as 4D, 5D, etc? is there really a "spiritual", higher existence? and how about the whole "benevolent E.T" things often spoken among the "new age / enlightened" circle & people? is that all really real, or just some oh-so-beautiful human's creative Imaginations and wishful-thinking/fantasy?

HOW can I know for SURE that it's all REAL??...

believing, hoping, wishing, and imagining Santa Claus or flying monster spaghetti doesn't automatically make them exist . that's called delusional.
and not the Truth.

[niki]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
Not my words, but I couldn't have put it better myself:

"Here's what really, REALLY annoys me about conspiracy nuts - they simply WILL NOT give us the satisfaction of appearing in public after one of their witless predictions goes tits-up to allow us to point and laugh openly. Aliens didn't land during the Olympic closing ceremony. There wasn't a huge 'false flag' terrorist attack on London 2012. The world hasn't ended because a new cycle of the Mayan calendar started. After wasting so many people's time and effort, at least take the shame."

Nick...

@Nick Matkin : well said.. totally agree.

[Flash]

Do you realise that just the fact that we are all here, on the same thread, from all over the world may be just that, the change, 12/21/12......., the start of new planet.

Indonesia, UK, USA, France, Finland, Australia, Canada, Toad, Massachusset, Netherlands, Fred, Flash.

I am teasing for the names, they did not have a flag, except for Modwiz, he represent the future of USA. Fred in the present is from USA and me from
Canada, but French speaking (frog), so maybe I match with Toad, whom I do not know where he is from.

[niki]

Posted by Flash (here)
Do you realise that just the fact that we are all here, on the same thread, from all over the world may be just that, the change, 12/21/12......., the start of new planet.

Indonesia, UK, USA, France, Finland, Australia, Canada, Toad, Massachusset, Netherlands, Fred, Flash.

I am teasing for the names, they did not have a flag, except for Modwiz, he represent the future of USA. Fred in the present is from USA and me from
Canada, but French speaking (frog), so maybe I match with Toad, whom I do not know where he is from.

@Flash : everybody from around the world is here simply because of the hyped-up Hollywood movies, news, publications etc etc about this whole "2012" thing, which then easily becomes a hype around the planet.

simple reason.
Occam's razor at work (as well as still using a bit of critical-thinking & common-sense).
there is still no solid proof of this whole "enlightenment", as far as I can see.

[Flash]

Posted by niki (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
Do you realise that just the fact that we are all here, on the same thread, from all over the world may be just that, the change, 12/21/12......., the start of new planet.

Indonesia, UK, USA, France, Finland, Australia, Canada, Toad, Massachusset, Netherlands, Fred, Flash.

I am teasing for the names, they did not have a flag, except for Modwiz, he represent the future of USA. Fred in the present is from USA and me from
Canada, but French speaking (frog), so maybe I match with Toad, whom I do not know where he is from.

@Flash : everybody from around the world is here simply because of the hyped-up Hollywood movies, news, publications etc etc about this whole "2012" thing, which then easily becomes a hype around the planet.

simple reason.
Occam's razor at work (as well as still using a bit of critical-thinking & common-sense).
there is still no solid proof of this whole "enlightenment", as far as I can see.

Niki, you are completely missing my point. My point has nothing to do with Hollywood for God sake. Nor with 21 december 2012 as a matter of fact. I only use the date to demonstrate a point, and this point is:

you have here a forum linking together people from all the places listed above in my previous post. When, in the history of humanity, has this happened? Never. Up to mid 90's this was impossible.

The new world is in fact the humanity coming together in a very direct manner. Avalon being both the avant-garde and the proof of it.

Leave the Occam's razor and critical thinking/common sense stuff for others than me please, this is bits insulting.

[KiwiElf]

The title of your thread says it all, Niki - being bored is a choice. When you decide your life is no longer boring and MOVE in that direction and ACT on it, then you will begin your journey. Try focusing on your life becoming exciting instead.

Change starts first from within oneself - Merry Xmas

[niki]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
The title of your thread says it all, Niki - being bored is a choice. When you decide your life is no longer boring and MOVE in that direction and ACT on it, then you will begin your journey. Try focusing on your life becoming exciting instead.

Change starts first from within oneself - Merry Xmas

although your post is well-meant, but unfortunately, I really honestly don't see anything 'special' with this whole "DO IT, ACT ON IT" message,
I (& many sincerely GOOD people in this world) have already known about all these stuff, even without these whole "New-Agey, Ascension, spiritual-ish" stuff.

what I DO want to ask is: what about all those whole things about "December 21 2012" like: Ascension, E.T intervention, Galactic Federation of Light, Higher-dimensions, ascension to 5D, Disclosure, and many other 'oh-so-wonderful' things (& predictions) that's being made in this forum?...
now, with NOTHING practically and literally happened in this long-prophesied super-important December 21 2012 date,
can I still believe in all those things mentioned above?.. are they really *real* ? .. or just some 'creative' human's Imaginations and made-up wishful-thinking/hopeful/fantasy?

at this point, I really need a real critical, common-sense, sincere & honest answer, not another sugar-coating metaphorical language anymore, it won't work anymore for me.

[Cristian]

Posted by niki (here)
now I'm seriously even starting to -sadly- doubt about almost ALL the things that this forum ever taught me, eg: is it true there is a "Higher Dimension" such as 4D, 5D, etc? is there really a "spiritual", higher existence? and how about the whole "benevolent E.T" things often spoken among the "new age / enlightened" circle & people? is that all really real, or just some oh-so-beautiful human's creative Imaginations and wishful-thinking/fantasy?

HOW can I know for SURE that it's all REAL??...

believing, hoping, wishing, and imagining Santa Claus or flying monster spaghetti doesn't automatically make them exist . that's called delusional.
and not the Truth.

Hi Niki,

Why do you need to know something for sure? Why do you look at others for answers and never within you?

You will know the truth, when you will stop using the brain and start using the heart.saaaaaaa(last word typed by my cat )

[161803398]

There isn't anything you can't learn from. The thing is you might not learn what you expected.

Certainly there are many strange things going on in the world and no one can explain them. We can't explain them and if we try to see or say things that we really don't know we go to far if we are trying to be accurate. In many cases, the most we can say is that we don't know but there is certainly something going on....and then we can try to find out what it is. Some people had greater expectations from the end of the Mayan calendar than others. I enjoyed just trying to find out if there was anything to it. What I did find out is that no one knew what it meant and everyone is guessing or lying. It's kind of nice to find something that no one understands the meaning of. I enjoyed reading all the bs as well. I also learned that the Sun orbits the centre of the Galaxy which possibly contains a black hole.

I think that many people hoped that somehow 2012 would help us get rid of the bastards that are running the world...that was probably the biggest hope for many.

But the ascension business bothered me because in my view it was a pretty easy out in the case of 2012.

There was a documentary about the Mayans that showed Graham Hancock* at a nice hotel giving a lecture about the Mayan calendar and some actual Mayans cleaning tables and working the bar. I think that's the biggest lesson we should learn...but probably no one is gonna learn that one. NEXT!!!!

*not that I don't enjoy reading Graham Hancock

[161803398]

It would be a mistake to stop believing anything in this forum. I went through that stage...long ago and before this forum...when, even though I had had some amazing paranormal experiences, I became immersed in the so called 3D. I stopped believing in anything else....fortunately this was short lived. I told a friend of mine who is a scientist what had happened, he freaked and started talking about werewolves...OMG...but I got the point.

But people have to remember to keep one foot on the ground...otherwise what is going to happen to the actual Mayans while everyone is waiting for ascension. I hope you understand my point.

OH, and some wise person once told me that BOREDOM is the tip of the iceberg of isolation.

[D-Day]

Hi Niki,

As someone just mentioned above, all the answers you seek are already within you.

Right now, your intution is giving you subtle hints to help steer/point you in the right direction.

... it's time you started listening!

There are many seemingly knowledgable people on this forum who have various opinoins aobut what's going on in this world, who's controlling everything, how they're doing it, what their next moves might be, and what the future may hold for humanity... but they're ALL just speculating!

None of us have all the answers... despite the fact that some of us like to think we do sometimes

In the (almost) two years I've been a member of this forum I've seen many come and go - each with their own unique set of skills, experiences, knowledge, understanding, and beliefs.

Some believed the GFL was going to save them from certain armageddon, some believed Ascended Masters were about to release trillions of $'s in trust fund money to the masses, some believed they were destined to ascend to the 5th dimention to become "beings of light", some believed mass arrests of TPTB were imminent, some believed ET Disclosure was just around the corner... AND (sadly) ALL OF THEM WERE WRONG!!!

So, what does that tell you about this forum, it's membership, and more importanly... about you??

... well, you'll just have to figure that out for yourselff

My only piece of advice would be to trust in yourself and to stop looking outside for all your answers.

You have the ability to control and create your own future/desitiny... there's no need to relinquish any of that control to others. (unless of course you want/choose to)

Time to take your power back and start trusting yourself again!!

Know and trust in yourself, do your own research, draw your own conclusions... and you can't/won't go wrong!!

All the best, Niki

[panopticon]

Posted by niki (here)
everybody from around the world is here simply because of the hyped-up Hollywood movies, news, publications etc etc about this whole "2012" thing, which then easily becomes a hype around the planet.

simple reason.
Occam's razor at work (as well as still using a bit of critical-thinking & common-sense).
there is still no solid proof of this whole "enlightenment", as far as I can see.

This may be the reason you are a member of this forum.
They are not mine.

As they appear to be the reason you are a member here then I can understand why you may be feeling a bit disillusioned about the long predicted non-event (many here have been saying nothing earth shattering was going to happen on 21 December 2012 by the way).

I have never had an interest in 'this whole "2012" thing'.
I am not a "new ager" and yet again I would ask what is this 'solid proof' you are after.
Proof of what exactly? Enlightenment?
Sorry I must have missed the memo...
Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[apokalypse]

so many people got troll yesterday...

[KiwiElf]

And those who will not learn cannot be taught - with all due respect Niki, if you don't look, you certainly won't see.

You have already decided from your own thread that your life is boring. In fact, a quick scan of your other posts across several threads and you're trying the same argument on almost every one of them.

Then I'd say you're already very adept at creating your reality. (You certainly aren't going to get anything different if that's your belief). And ummm... that's just plain good ol' psychology - not a "sugar coated metaphor", to use your own words.

Most members on here have spent many years learning and are still doing so. There is no instant answer or quick fix.

Try the search button at the top of the page - that's what it's there for.

[apokalypse]

what you guys call this? original means of prediction/prophecies from ancients of 2012 something is beautiful for human beginnings like Ascension(what ever you want to make out of it). some people in here find it bull**** but someone intent to misinterpret the true meaning of bull**** prediction/prophecies into something else on Mainstream into apocalyptic event/end of the world...i laugh at people on mainstream poking fun at totally BS misinterpreted true meaning of prediction/prophecies, i believe there was never considered any negative happen on that date on first place but more of positive event.

enough of negative event crap, where's Wilcock and Kerry? correct me if i'm wrong these two come to my mind have said something positive happen on that date. on of video i watched Kerry said something to happen on that date because of looking glass or something according to Insider but Bill Ryan insist nothing will happen on 2012. So much for insider....