And then, there's silence...

[Swan]

Hi Raf,

Actually, I did feel "something" And yes it may well be a placebo affect.

I wasn´t really expecting anything in the outer world to change ( although I did get some water containers just in case...which I couldn´t be bothered to fill).

I always thought this would be an inner level shift. And it was for me.

[baddbob]

Im waiting to hear from people like Patrick Geryl and others and see what they have to say now. I know somwhere theres a BIG sale on end of the world gear.
All of Patrick Geryl videos have been "removed by user"
2012 New Predictions
http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/impre_02.htm

[Carmody]

Big things, that are going to change the way things are done, and how they happen,and what reality is,..in order for them to not disrupt structure to the point that the structure fails....these things have to be gradual. Slow. easy. And to appear on the horizon as an indefinable blob. That which is on the other side of the coin, tends to appear just as indistinct. the realities are that shifting of an entire group of 7 billion necessarily has to happen slowly and carefully.

Not many will notice OR understand, at first..but the groundworks, the formation of their reality..will slowly change.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post604738

I do not think that it is self serving to say that there is a considerable amount of useful information in that thread.

Driving a car, reading a forum, watching TV, buying food, going to work...nodding a hello to neighbors, all that is life, not evolution. Evolution is a slow moving critter. Otherwise it will tear apart that which is attempting the evolution.

[baddbob]

Oh yes are we still waiting on 3 DAYS OF DARKNESS ?
NASA has predicted 3 days of darkness — a 'total blackout' on earth Dec. 23-25, 2012 — due to an 'alignment of the universe' during which the planet will 'shift dimensions' and we will see a 'brand new world.'

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/err...t-Dec-2012.htm

Waiting For the End of The World - Elvis Costello

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QqIQorTXIkk

[gripreaper]

Look, nothing happened, but I sure was ready!

[Deega]

Hi Raf, great of you to share your thoughts on December 21th 2012, and I will add a few remarks and questions. I have said here (Avalon) that I didn’t believe something would occur on that date! But I felt that there was something interesting with the Mayans, extraterrestrial, like what we have seen on History Channel, we could certainly say that these people were highly intelligent.

‘’since the date has passed and nothing abnormal happened’’

, we unfortunately don’t know what could have happened far away in the Cosmos don’t we..?, and if something so happened, only time will tell unfortunately! Our Solar System have crossed the Galactic plane, will it have a particular effect on the Electromagnetic Forces that surround our Solar System, our Science will tell in time.

‘’Anyway, personally, I see this thing as a great opportunity’’

, hmm!, we are alive, our soul, spirit is divine, the opportunity have always been there, why should it be an opportunity now, if we didn’t do things to benefit from what we are.., we have been in lost I would think.

‘’It´s also a great opportunity to finally clean the alternative media and get rid of storytellers, opportunists and con men, who are destroying the alternative community’

’, Raf, please tell us what, how, when do you expect we should do what you are saying, difficult thing, the PTB are extremely stable in their footing, a very interesting goal but it’s the what, how, when that interest me.

As I have often read your interesting Treads and Posts, you like realistic and scientific evidence to conclude rationale. But the thing that I find difficult is the fact that we don’t know much about the Sciences (Physic, Chemistry, biology, etc) of the Universe, even our world, we don’t know much about the mysteries of our deepest oceans. We don’ t know much about the center of Earth. The Scientific World (what is actually researched) has a long way to go in the nano-world of human body.

There is so many things we don't know, so making rationale (on what we know) may also be misleading because of all the unknown surrounding us, don’t you think..?

All the best to you Raf!

[RMorgan]

Posted by baddbob (here)
Im waiting to hear from people like Patrick Geryl and others and see what they have to say now. I know somwhere theres a BIG sale on end of the world gear.
All of Patrick Geryl videos have been "removed by user"
2012 New Predictions
http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/impre_02.htm

Hey mate,

I guarantee that we´ll hear all sorts of pathetic, maybe even hilarious excuses about Dec 21th, starting next week.

For now, all 2012 guru´s websites are suspiciously quiet. I guess they are taking some time to brainstorm about which kind of excuse will be more convincing.

Raf.

Posted by Deega (here)
Hi Raf, great of you to share your thoughts on December 21th 2012, and I will add a few remarks and questions. I have said here (Avalon) that I didn’t believe something would occur on that date! But I felt that there was something interesting with the Mayans, extraterrestrial, like what we have seen on History Channel, we could certainly say that these people were highly intelligent.

‘’since the date has passed and nothing abnormal happened’’

, we unfortunately don’t know what could have happened far away in the Cosmos don’t we..?, and if something so happened, only time will tell unfortunately! Our Solar System have crossed the Galactic plane, will it have a particular effect on the Electromagnetic Forces that surround our Solar System, our Science will tell in time.

‘’Anyway, personally, I see this thing as a great opportunity’’

, hmm!, we are alive, our soul, spirit is divine, the opportunity have always been there, why should it be an opportunity now, if we didn’t do things to benefit from what we are.., we have been in lost I would think.

‘’It´s also a great opportunity to finally clean the alternative media and get rid of storytellers, opportunists and con men, who are destroying the alternative community’

’, Raf, please tell us what, how, when do you expect we should do what you are saying, difficult thing, the PTB are extremely stable in their footing, a very interesting goal but it’s the what, how, when that interest me.

As I have often read your interesting Treads and Posts, you like realistic and scientific evidence to conclude rationale. But the thing that I find difficult is the fact that we don’t know much about the Sciences (Physic, Chemistry, biology, etc) of the Universe, even our world, we don’t know much about the mysteries of our deepest oceans. We don’ t know much about the center of Earth. The Scientific World (what is actually researched) has a long way to go in the nano-world of human body.

There is so many things we don't know, so making rationale (on what we know) may also be misleading because of all the unknown surrounding us, don’t you think..?

All the best to you Raf!

Hey Deega,

That´s exactly my point!

We don´t know practically anything about what´s happening outside Earth!

Therefore, people who claim to know about "cosmic energies", "galactic alignment" and this sort of things, don´t know anything as well.

Their claims are 100% made of unfounded speculations, but somehow they´ve managed to convince a lot of people that they were right.

Raf.

[Freed Fox]

Bitter?

It's one thing to be happy about the lack of catastrophe, or even seeing phony, self-proclaimed gurus get their comeuppance. Then there's thinly-veiled schadenfreude.
Advocating practical, realistic approaches to our problems is just fine. But practice what you preach while you're at it and don't sh** all over the expectations of others, especially when they were well intentioned.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
Bitter?

It's one thing to be happy about the lack of catastrophe, or even seeing phony, self-proclaimed gurus get their comeuppance. Then there's thinly-veiled schadenfreude.
Advocating practical, realistic approaches to our problems is just fine. But practice what you preach while you're at it and don't sh** all over the expectations of others, especially when they were well intentioned.

I love you too man!

By the way, there´s that old proverb that says - Hell is full of good intentioned people.

[Freed Fox]

'The road to hell is paved with good intentions', actually
But they also say that hell is a fiery pit, a lake of fire. Clearly so much to gain from these traditional bits of 'wisdom'.

[Carmody]

In order for evolution to come for us all, it is going to come from a corner and way that is unexpected and gradual.

Like comfy chairs, pillows and what not, 'no one expects the Spanish Inquisition'.

I listed the article about '500 mathematically provable and 'usable' states of matter now being 'on the table of science as realities'.

that is BIG. HUGE in fact. But it will take TIME to creep into our existence and awareness. Thankfully so.

That few to none will recognize the significance of it.

At first.

Then........ . .

[Chester]

The fastest (and perhaps only) way to accomplish a true, positive change in this world can likely occur and occur rapidly if

a.) there are enough folks who truly want positive change in this world and

b.) enough of these folks apply Ghandi's suggestion that we all "be the change we want to see."

Quite simple IMO and, in fact, this approach has proven true in my own personal experience of my own world experience during this lifetime.

I wish that more folks would get down to this simple truth (my opinion only) so that the world my children grow up in is indeed a positive, fully enjoyable experience as it can be.

Love to You All, Chester (good thread Raf)

[Freed Fox]

RMorgan, I apologize for my hasty message. I did not mean to attack you in any way. That didn't come from a place of aggression toward you but rather, I think a sympathy for those who are probably feeling let down or disillusioned by the great and dramatic changes they wanted to see happen.

Believe me, I haven't lost a dime to any of these 'would-be messiahs' who are peddling their wares via books, dvds, and what-have-you. And like you I'm glad that they'll lose a lot of their steam as their deceptions are revealed and their predictions prove untrue.

I'm just abit entrenched in negativity at the moment. I'm really lucky, in many ways. One of which is that my own disillusionment to the things I held to be true has already occurred. I'm also aware that we have to be prepared for our expectations to fall flat.

The thing is, I expected the course moving forward with this perspective would become clear. Years later, however, I still feel just as lost as ever.

The Serenity Prayer is one of my favorite actual bits of wisdom;

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

If I focused only on myself, the decision would be much more simple. There's a way out. But I have met so many who continue to suffer. Working class people for which every day is a struggle. I want to help these people. I've thought about going into politics, into activism, but my heart is not directed to any specific cause. When the problems seem so immense and widespread.

In my country, for instance, the consensus at the top is now, apparently, 'corporations are people'. And yet corporations like Hostess can essentially fold their hand, publicly admitting that they've failed, and yet they simultaneously award their executives million dollar bonuses. A pat on the back for fumbling the ball. Meanwhile all of the employees who worked on the factory lines go home empty handed and have to start from scratch.

That's just a drop in the ocean of racial prejudice, gender inequality, massive deception...

I've learned already that dwelling on this negativity in itself accomplishes nothing. Yet here I am, hijacking your thread, and for what?

Again, I apologize.

[Wind]

This 2012 prediction was just too good to be true and I bought it, like many of us.

The thing is, I just don't want to slide into pessimism again... Why? If you look at the world now, it's really hard not to feel just sorrow and anger. Most of humanity is not ready to wake up and we will repeat all the pain and suffering due to karma as long as we are fully able to love and forgive each other. It may take hundreds of years unless we destroy ourselves before that.

I'm really not sure that what does it take for humanity to make a stand towards unconditional love. I would lie if I said that I wasn't disappointed and sad at the moment. Many of us have perhaps had false assumptions and some were deceived.

I suppose that now is the time for me to reassemble my thoughts and beliefs. It's been a humbling experience.

[enfoldedblue]

I questioned responding to this thread, as of course it is largely pointless, but i decided to share anyway. I am experiencing a profound transformation within. I became aware that it was occuring around 2-3 years ago. At first I thought I was alone in my experience, but came to discover others having similar experiences. This process is not about aliens, gurus, ascended masters, or rapture. Instead it about being drawn within to discover all aspects that I had pushed away out of fear, to heal and clear the associated energy of fear. This process is about healing the internal state of unconscious division and returning to a state of wholeness. The further I progress in my healing journey the more my external reality reflects the changes within. For me the key to this process is gentleness, it is not about forcing, or pushing, it does not happen overnight (thank god), I feel like a blossom that is opening ...It is a very magical, mysterious and beautiful process.

[Youniverse]

I feel the same peace and harmony I did before Dec.21. I have the same hopes and desires I've felt for years.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

celebrate life!

and try to develop the commercialization of space travel!

[jessamy99]

Our new era begins tomorrow. Our new beginning.
Our hearts will be open.
Our souls will soar.
No body can confine us.
We will be expanded until we have merged with our centre, where we are all one.
There is only the one being, that creative centre.
There is such love for you all.
Enjoy 2013!
With love,
Jessamy xxxxx

[ketturah]

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
I questioned responding to this thread, as of course it is largely pointless, but i decided to share anyway. I am experiencing a profound transformation within. I became aware that it was occuring around 2-3 years ago. At first I thought I was alone in my experience, but came to discover others having similar experiences. This process is not about aliens, gurus, ascended masters, or rapture. Instead it about being drawn within to discover all aspects that I had pushed away out of fear, to heal and clear the associated energy of fear. This process is about healing the internal state of unconscious division and returning to a state of wholeness. The further I progress in my healing journey the more my external reality reflects the changes within. For me the key to this process is gentleness, it is not about forcing, or pushing, it does not happen overnight (thank god), I feel like a blossom that is opening ...It is a very magical, mysterious and beautiful process.

I totally agree, & I haven't had time to respond to you about my son yet, in your thread about Intense Energy, but I will later.

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
For now, all 2012 guru´s websites are suspiciously quiet. I guess they are taking some time to brainstorm about which kind of excuse will be more convincing.

Yes, I've been monitoring some of them for signs of life.

Like this one that posts Galactic Federation of Light stuff (no posts since Dec. 19th): http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html

One that I've been fascinated by is Georgi Stankov's site. I can't look away. It's like a car crash. I have to look. He had really put himself out there lately with his claims about ascension. And now, there's this message. http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2...nnouncement-2/ Honestly, I'm kind of worried about him.

Still waiting to hear from David Wilcock, but in his case, while it seemed he was hoping for something to happen (a quantum event?????), he was planning for the future (working on a new book, scheduling speaking gigs.)